BS: What did Jesus look like?

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: Weasel Books
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 05:15 PM

McGrath, I think you made a great point. Artisitc licence is just that. If it helps you get the message across, thats fine. I think El Greco has painted some of the most beautiful images spiritualy, but they are definitely not historical represantations.

Azizi, the verse from Daniel (and Revelation) says his hair was white AS wool. You could easily have substituted snow or something else for the wool. This was a pastoral society. Images were used that they could most easily relate to.

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: Greg F.
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 05:17 PM

I was flyin' back from Lubbock
I saw Jesus on the plane
... Or maybe it was Elvis
You know, they kind of look the same...

     -Don Henley [or maybe it was Geo. Dubya]

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 05:22 PM

It's interesting to look at the very earliest pictorial representations of Jesus, among the early Christians. If anyone would, they would know. They show a fairly short-haired, clean-shaven Jesus.

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: dianavan
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 05:30 PM

I think Jesus did exist but from a non-Christian point of view, I have always thought of him as a black African. Early Christianity seems to have started in North Africa and spread to Ethiopia long before Europe was converted. There seems to be plenty of evidence that the mothers of St. Augustine and St. Thomas of Aquinas were black.

Perhaps we are imposing on the religions (Jewish and Christian) a racial way of thinking that wasn't as prevalent in those days.

Jews and Christians alike were probably of many colours.

Jesus could easily have been black, white, or all the shades in between. As far as the white hair goes, maybe he was prematurely white. In any event, Christianity gained its momentum because it opposed Roman (white) rule. Of course Rome eventually assimilated the Christians by giving them central authority in Rome but thats another story.

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: Jim Tailor
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 05:34 PM

I guess that we're obviously talking about two different things, MofH.

If you're saying that it doesn't matter how Jesus is portrayed because, after all, he wasn't a real, historical person, rather just a figment of religious imagination -- then I would take exception with you.

If, on the other hand, you are merely saying that it is a reasonable exercise to use the arts in a manner to better help us understand the historical person, Jesus, or aspects about him that are not as easily conveyed in concrete terms as they might be through the arts -- then I wouldn't disagree. In fact...

..one of my favorite artist renditions of the incarnation is the movie "Phenomenon" (with John Traovolta). A movie that never made any claims to be portraying Jesus -- but did none-the-less.

The confusion -- and the line I think you seem willing to cross, but that makes me uneasy -- is that you seem to be saying that it is okay to portray Jesus in whatever manner makes you happy, still claim that it is an accurate portrayal (in historical, anthropological, biophysical terms) of the actual man, Jesus, who walked the earth some 2000 years ago, and that's okay...

...And I'm saying that that is the exact kind of thinking that led to the blue-eyed blonde Jesus.

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: Weasel Books
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 05:46 PM

Uncle Dave,

Where are these coins from? It's interesting to note that by the 2nd c. beards had gone out of favour with most of the Jews, especially the fashionable ones. See the paintings at Dura Europas synagogue.
A lot of time had passed since Christ and fashions changed. Growing up in the conservative Galilee in a fairly observant background, Christ would definitely have had a beard.

Dianavan,
Umm, Armenia was actualy Christian long before Ethiopia I think.
And if someone was black, a colour that was unusual in the area at the time, you can be sure the Scriptures would note it. Have a look at Acts 8:27, for example.
The verses with the hair are in a spiritual context, white being the colour of purity and righteousness.

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 06:01 PM

I suppose this (click) will forever be my visual image of Jesus, though I may hate myself for that at times. It's the picture my parents had hanging in the living room, so it's the one that stuck. I suppose I shouldn't complain. There are many that are far worse. The Divine Mercy image of Jesus is taking the Catholic Church by storm, complete with its "Jesus I Trust In You" inscription computer-pasted over the original Polish inscription. We nearly had a palace coup in our parish when the new pastor too down our larger-than-life Divine Mercy posters from the sanctuary.

Still, I think I'd rather have no visual image at all, or maybe something impressionistic or an icon - an image that leaves a lot to the imagination.
The National Catholic Reporter is THE periodical for us liberal Catholics in the U.S. A few years back, the newspaper asked for submissions of images of Jesus, and you can find a few of them here (click) I have to say I'm more comfortable with the image we had in the living room. They're all interesting, but the winner and some of the others seem to have an "agenda" attached. This page (click) says the winning picture is sure proof that Roman Catholicism is witchcraft.

Hmmmm. Maybe they don't realize that many right-wing Catholics consider National Catholic Reporter to be heresy....

-Joe Offer-

This page (click) has some interesting modern images of Jesus.

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 06:04 PM

Minsunderstanding cleared up, I think Jim. Basically, I think it's better to read the Gospels in the language we speak rather than in Aramaic, which doesn't mean the Aramaic version isn't the basic one. And the same thinking applies to pictures.

Nothing wrong with a blue eyes blond Jesus as a way of helping Swedes recognise Jesus as someone whoi belongs in Sweden - but everything wrong when that image gets presented to black Africans with the message that Jesus isn't like them, but is like the settlers who've been pushing them around.

And nothing wrong with trying to get an image of him that reflects how he would have been, back in First Century Palestine, especially since that can be a way of reminding people that being any kind of a Christian isn't compatible with being a racist or an anti-semite.

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: Azizi
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 06:12 PM

Yes Yes I know.
"Hair as white as lambs' wool" and "hair like lambs" wool does not mean the same things as 'wooly hair'

This verse may or may not be the verse that some African Americans base the belief that Jesus was Black with wooly hair.

If I knew Alice Walker I would ask her where she got this saying from and what made her make her character say it..{I believe it was Nettie in "Color Purple".

Upthread mack/misophist wrote this about Discover magazine's piece of what the average man looked like in Jesus' time and geographic area:

"The average male of that place and time was short, stocky, and had curly reddish black hair; probably cut at earlobe length. The only surprises were a broad short nose and thick lips."

All I can say to that is there's a bunch of African Americans that would fit that description-and quite a lot more who look as White as- well- most of you Mudcat posters.

The only reason why this matters so much is that Western society has put 'white people' on such a pedestal that many Black people-in particular-but also many other people of color need to search so hard for people who look like them to look up to...

Frankly it doesn't matter to me WHAT the historical Jesus looked {looks} like. But for some it matters.

And to them I say if it helps you emulate Jesus to say he looks like you {or like some people in your race} more power to you.

Ms. Azizi

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: Weasel Books
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 06:32 PM

But aren't most of the lighter African Americans a result of interbreeding (not always marriage)?

Not all broad noses and fleshy lips are African, nor do all Africans fit that description either. Many Jews and Arabs still have fleshy lips. Curly hair too, WITHOUT looking African at all (not that all Africans are Negroids).

McGrath, if you could read Aramaic then it would be better to read the New Testament in that tongue. Why rely on translations if you don't have to?

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: dianavan
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 06:54 PM

Weasel-

We (and I mean all people) are so inbred that to ask if African Americans are lighter or darker, depending on interbreeding is a moot point. White people aren't actually white, either. Unless you happen to be Albino. Fact is, people come in all shades.

Jesus was probably closer to the black end of the spectrum than the white end.

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 07:01 PM

He definitely looks like Eric

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: dianavan
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 07:22 PM

My mother-in-law gave me a picture of Jesus with a bleeding heart. I guess that means he was a liberal. What do liberals look like?

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: Weasel Books
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 07:23 PM

Well I had ment 'black' interbreeding with 'white'.
And when I used those terms I ment the general, unscientific meaning.
Towards the dark end of the spectrum, I agree, but much lighter than the average African. More an 'olive' tone. Just as the Semitic type isn't exactly European, it isn't African either. If we accept he came from Palestine/Israel then we should accept he wasn't African either (or European or Mongoloid or anything else). Blacks are as native here as whites are in Sub-Saharan Africa.

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 07:43 PM

did anyone READ that page that Joe Offer noted? They have such a narrow image in their heads that they use terms like "complete abomination" and "occultist" and "Satanic" to describe someone's attempt to paint an inclusive picture!

No matter what the 'truth' is, it is a fact that none of the biblical quotes or descriptions were written by anyone who met the historical character. Every important aspect of every major religion has been tweaked and glossed and embroidered by the faithful for centuries until you can find someone willing to kill for any specific interpretation...

*sigh*...and they wonder why atheists don't fall into line....

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 08:01 PM

As for you who don't believe he even existed...just sod off and start your own thread about whatever subject you like to talk about! :-) Typical LH ploy to silence the Brights by disallowing their opinion before the thread even begins.

Few of you fools have read Augustine, obviously, a man who encouraged deceit in order to further the interests of Christianity at all cost. Let's have a shred of evidence JC existed before you attribute physical features. Looks like a myth to me.

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: Irish sergeant
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 08:22 PM

Guest; the great thing about America is that you can believe what you want.
Little Hawk; My guess is that he would pass unnoticed if you put him on the streets of Jerusalem, Damascus, Amman or even Bagdad. The truth of the matter in my opinion is that what he looked like isn't important. It's his message that we need to focus on. Respectfully, Neil

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 09:29 PM

Bill D - I read that page. It's horrifying. It sums up the worst in unholy religious fanaticism and intolerance.

Note, Bill: Some atheists DO fall into line! Chairman Mao's Red Guards certainly did, and so did Joe Stalin's commissars and his armoured divisions. Atheists are just as easy to regiment as religious people are. You just provide them with a cause, a chain of command, and a rigid authoritarian structure at the top to tell them exactly who to go out and kill.

******

Guest - You clearly have little appreciation of my sense of humour. I knew that it was inevitable that certain people who don't believe Jesus ever existed would see this thread as a golden opportunity to beat their particular drum on that yet again. We all love to beat our favourite drums. :-) That amuses me. I am even amused at my own tendency to do just that, and I certainly do it. With gusto.    When I use the phrase "sod off", I am joshing with people, because I am not British. It's a phrase I never use except in fun.

And...who are "the Brights", a New Age group of some kind? Please expand on that, if you would, because I love hearing about all the new spiritual and philosophical ideas that are out there...most of them have at least some merit.

********

Somebody pointed out that the white hair was a symbol of spiritual purity. No doubt. It also could be that a vision of a spirit being would shine shimmery sort of white all over. I saw one that did. I kid you not. It was silvery white in appearance, uncannilly like the image described of Jesus in Revelation in some ways. It was not Jesus, though, it was an Angel. That is the only such vision I have ever had in my life, and it was not due to the influence of any drug or anything like that. It was real. I have never doubted the existence of Angels since, and knowing they are there is a tremendous comfort.

I did not have the impression that the Angel was representing ANY organized religion, by the way. :-) It told me not to be afraid. That was the whole message. "Why do you fear? You are completely indestructible." That is exactly what the Angel said to me, and it clearly was not speaking about my physical body. It was speaking about my Spirit. My Spirit is the same as your Spirit, whoever you might think you are at the moment. You are probably much more than you think you are, because you too are indestructible, and valuable beyond measure.

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: Cobble
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 10:02 PM

Jesus is all things to all that believe, it is his spirit that counts not the colour of his skin. Im not a christian or moslem, but it's what he said that is the point. And looking at some of your feedback I see a lot of racism, the nazis thought the same way, the same old banter over again. I thought we were past all that, there are as many ways to God, as stars in the heavens, live together it's much better.

No one is wrong, they have there own way to the truth.

             Blessings be. Cobble.

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 10:13 PM

Agreed on every count, Cobble. It doesn't matter in the least what Jesus looked like. I raised the question, because I thought it would stimulate some interesting discussion, and it has.

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: LadyJean
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 10:21 PM

My friend Meg, who lives on Michigan's Upper Peninsula worked her first summer there in a guest house. It had originally been a convent, and the owner just left the religious statuary in place for decoration. Which is how Meg wound up dusting a large, pink sentimental, statue of Jesus.
Her fellow maid, Debbie, saw her at work, and explained that she was going about it all wrong. Debbie took the dust rag, and started walloping the dust off the statue with it, saying, as she did so, "There's three things wrong with this statue. First, Jesus wasn't pink. Second, he wasn't effeminate. And third, he didn't have to be dusted three times a week!"

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: Pogo
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 10:25 PM

I can't remember who posted that bit from Isaiah but thanks...that passage is a deeply moving one for me. I adore it.

Yeah...truth of the matter is no it doesn't matter what Jesus looked like...it's what he taught and ultimately what he did. Still it is interesting to speculate what he looked like in his earthly form.

Jesus was referred to as the Nazerene (and am I right in thinking the Nazerenes were a particular religious group who didn't believe in cutting their hair among other things?), he was supposed to have been born in Bethlehem, he traveled through Galilee and Jerusalem. I take the side of the group that says he looked like the folk from that area, it makes sense to me on a lot of levels that he'd look no different from anyone else from there.

The thing about Paul and the long hair...that may have been related to the fact that he wrote for a primarily Gentile/Greek?/Roman?(not sure...having a brain fart) audience and he may have been addressing specific manners of dress and so forth that would have related to their particular tastes

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: Greg F.
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 10:25 PM

More importantly, what did Mithras look like?

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: dianavan
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 10:41 PM

You are absolutely right Greg! Anyone who thinks that Jesus was the one and only son of God should realize by now that the myths that grew up around Jesus being the Christ were originally the Zoroastrian and Hindu stories of Mithras.

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 10:52 PM

Absolutely correct! The "virgin birth" was also an old idea that considerably predated Christianity, and was found in a number of earlier religions. In all probability, it was intended as a metaphor for spiritual purity, rather than the literal notion that the mother never had physical sex.

This was a subtlety which would entirely escape most believers, however, because they tend to be literal thinkers.

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 11:28 PM

5 foot 2, eyes of blue, has anybody seen my God?

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 12:08 AM

Some commentators describe Jesus as a Nazirite, but it's hard to tell from the New Testament wheter the term means he came from Nazareth, or if he was a true Nazirite, a person specially dedicated to God as described in the sixth chapter of the Book of Numbers. Part of the Nazirite vow involved not cutting one's hair. The best-known Nazirite was Samson. You know - the guy they named the luggage after.
But yeah, I don't think Jesus went for short hair, or that he shaved his head or anything like that. Maybe he looked like the guy on the Zig-Zag cigarette papers. That was another early image of Jesus I had.


-Joe Offer-

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Has Anybody Seen J.C.? in the Digital Tradition.

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: mg
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 12:20 AM

Short, muscular, short hair, no beard, dark-skinned Palestinian but not African features. Next time you see a crowd of young Palestinian men find one with a roundish face and on the short side and there you go. He looks friendly, capable, strong but not God-like. That is my vision of him anyway. mg

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: number 6
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 01:03 AM

'The guy on zig zag papers" Good one Joe ..... how about the sailor guy on the Players Cigerrette pack?

And jesus was a sailor
When he walked upon the water
And he spent a long time watching
From his lonely wooden tower
And when he knew for certain
Only drowning men could see him
He said 'all men will be sailors then
Until the sea shall free them'
But he himself was broken
Long before the sky would open
Forsaken, almost human
He sank beneath your wisdom like a stone
And you want to travel with him
And you want to travel blind
And you think maybe you'll trust him
For he's touched your perfect body with his mind.
.... lyrics by Leonard Cohen


sIx

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 01:05 AM

After reading this thread I left mudcat to do a search on something else and I went into a site that had this page. So I went to check it out and found it to be pretty interesting and connecting with the thought of the black Jesus. It is an interesting read. Actually the entire site is interesting and I'm going back after I share this with you all.

PS. I still believe Jesus was part alien though.(smile)

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 01:43 AM

when i was about 17 and going through an experimental phase
of smoking too much dope and eating too many 'mushrooms',
my overactive immagination would scare me with thoughts

of "what if i was to discover i was a werewolf"
and
"what would i do if it was revealed to me that i was the
2nd coming of the son of god.."


freaky terrifying thoughts for a drug addled adolescent..
I got very paranoid about looking in mirrors..

though if it had turned out i was the chosen one after all,
i can tell you Jesus would have looked like a skinny spotty white
teenager with a rubbish hairstyle, dunlop tennis shoes
held together with gaffa tape, and a punk rock tee shirt
festooned with rock aginst racism/anti nazi league badges & safety pins..
and a ruck sack permanently ready with a sleeping bag,a bottle of Natural dry cider,digestive biscuits
and tins of heinz baked beans..
I was better prpared than the real one ever was with only loaves of bread and fishes..

thank *** i stopped doing recreational drugs entirely in my early 20's..

its a miracle i never grew up to be a serial killer..!!!
or a messianical cult leader..!!??

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: Weasel Books
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 05:53 AM

Jesus was not a Nazir, that group of monks such as Sampson. He was Jesus of Nazareth, his hometown, which in Hebrew comes out as Natzrat. Nazir is spelled differently and has a z sound.
People were generally known by their father, occuptaion, or if venturing further afield, their place of residence.
Hope this clears up any confusion with Nazir/Nazarene.

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: Weasel Books
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 06:40 AM

Rustic Rebel,
The Hi-tech Jesus link you posted is fatuous, erroneous, racist and agenda driven. There is nothing to support their ridiculous, unfounded claims and they themselves promulgate crude Nazi and anti-Semetic propoganda.
They are trying to subvert history to their own means, disregarding anything that doesn't fit in, discounting some things that they say there is no evidence for, yet accepting other for which there is less.
Please PM me if you like and I will refute point by point.

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: Jeanie
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 07:14 AM

Here is a link to the reconstructed head created by forensic medical artist Richard Neave for the BBC documentary series "Son of God". Lots of interesting information (as well as the facial reconstruction) on that site.

- jeanie

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: *daylia*
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 07:55 AM

Joe, thanks for the links. The first one will forever be my visual image of Jesus too. It's been hanging in my parent's dining room all my life. I bet you'd find it in 99% of Catholic homes! And I do still love it ...

This is a British medical artist's interpretation of what a 1st Century CE Semitic man living at the time of Jesus would have looked like. Seems like a darker-skinned wooly-haired peasant Jesus is not too far off then, although that image certainly doesn't 'resonate' at all with me!

What a paranoid article at that last link, Joe!   How does the yin-yang symbol (of balance), or a feather hanging from a staff indicate "witchcraft"??? Seems to me it infers a comfortingly "multicultural" Jesus - one who's 'Big Enough' to welcome those who love Eastern philosophy, traditional shamanism, and yes even Wicca or "Witchcraft".

WHy would Jesus have a problem with feathers anyway? "Consider the birds of the field. They do not sew or spin and yet Solomon in all his glory was not bedecked in such finery" (sorry, I'm paraphrasing cuz I'm too lazy to look up the direct quote right now ...)

LH, I love your description of a spiritual Being. Thanks for sharing your awesome experience here. What I said about how Jesus looks now is NOT a 'notion'. I'll tell you about it sometime ok?

Mike, thank you very much for the confirmation and many blessings to you too!

daylia

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: Azizi
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 07:58 AM

Weasel Books, on 29 Jan 05 - 05:46 PM said
"Armenia was actualy Christian long before Ethiopia I think"

I'm not sure when any Armenians accepted Christianity, but here's the information about Ethiopia:

The kingdom of Aksum officially adopted Christianity in the 4th century. But it wasn't before the 12th century (and up until the 15th) that Christianity spread, along with the Christian state, to the highlands of central Ethiopia. A remarkable collection of rock-hewn churches dates from this era. They were associated with monks, who were considered on a level with saints and whose lives were often recorded in writing. These monuments and manuscripts are still very important today as the living memory of Ethiopia's Christians.

http://whc.unesco.org/exhibits/afr_rev/africa-l.htm

This is just one of many other websites that provide information about Christianity in Ethiopia & tt has some interesting visuals.

Ms. Azizi

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: Weasel Books
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 08:05 AM

The paintings from Dura Europas reflect the fashions of the 3rd cemtury. Beards had become unfashionable (except with the religious or conservative) and even head covers are barely depicted.

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: Weasel Books
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 08:10 AM

Christianity in Ethiopia is very old, but it is not the oldest, nor did it originate there.

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 08:18 AM

Should they? dianavan.
Who should do or not do what is surely a matter of choice...I am eating an apple now dianavan..can you taste how beautiful it is?
Best wishes.

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 10:08 AM

It's a bit thread drifty - but I was reading this thread, and somemone used the term "olive-skinned", meaning a kind of light brown, I imagine, and it occurred to me that all the olives I have ever seen have been either green or black. Strange how language goes sometimes.

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 10:29 AM

I'm not sure but what the "olive" in "olive-skinned" doesn't refer to the color of the leaves of the tree rather than the fruit.

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 11:01 AM

We may very well all be part alien, Rustic. :-)

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: GUEST,ME : -)
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 11:10 AM

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: GUEST,ME :-) (again)
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 11:12 AM

Soz, accidently pressed enter. I imagine him looking like santa only not as fat. :-)

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 11:24 AM

By the way....

WHO is "Eric"???? I've been wondering.

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: GUEST,milk monitor
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 11:29 AM

Maybe Idle LH...as in Life of Brian.

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 12:27 PM

Eric... Eric Hearble......

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 01:04 PM

I'm not sure but what the "olive" in "olive-skinned" doesn't refer to the color of the leaves of the tree rather than the fruit.


Like this you mean, Uncle Dave?

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: dianavan
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 01:34 PM

Georgian Silver - No offense intended. I know some people might be offended by the word, 'should'. I don't usually use it. Please let me re-phrase the statement.

If you care to learn about early Christianity, you will find that the Zoroastrian myth of Mithras was incorporated into the stories of Jesus. That probably took place in Armenia around 300 A.D. Romans were very good at consolidating local beliefs into a religion which could be governed by a central authority.

Subject: RE: BS: What did Jesus look like?
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 01:37 PM

100 Amen.