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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: Bobert Date: 02 Aug 04 - 09:30 PM Actually, according to the Central Missouri Hygenical Institute (CMHI -Division III football but up and coming) the toilet seat should be kept in the upright position when not in use. This prevents harmfull bacteria from growing between the underside of the seat and the bowl. Jus' thought I'd throw that little tidbit into the fray... I was sure glad to read that study 'cause me and Wes Ginny Slide Rule have had that issue in our Top 10 on the Worry List for years.... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: Little Hawk Date: 02 Aug 04 - 10:54 PM Sure. That makes sense. It's not hard to put a seat down, is it? If the seat is up, you can see if the toilet rim needs cleaning. This is a good thing. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: Kaleea Date: 03 Aug 04 - 12:08 AM Now, Bobert, the answer is so simple that most men miss it. I could tell you about my standard jokes I always say in jest: I need a roadie to carry all of my instruments-or one with enough $$ to hire it done. ///// OR: 50-something, good looking, independently wealthy, worships the ground I walk on. uh, (Don Adams voice)would you believe, somewhere between legal age & death, I don't care what he looks like, it'd be nice if he had a job & sorta likes me. BUT: my older brother summed it all up--in public & in my presence no less--when speaking to a younger man only couple years married. "Son, if you want to please your woman, you only need to remember two little words: >>>>> >>> >>>>>> YES, MA'AM!!!!!!!!" Uh, Bobert, do you understand the answer to your question now? Uh, but seriously folks, um . . .actually, I DO really need a roadie cause I have so many Musical Instruments I can't take all I want to play to a jam or gig. [be sure to fax your applications & include a complete financial report in triplicate, along with 3 references . . . ummmm, men only please, cause I ain't that other kinda gal] ah . . .hahahahahahahahah, HA HA! :) ! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 03 Aug 04 - 02:21 AM Kaleea, Ah! another Mult-instrumentalist! And I too am looking for someone like you. I mean, er, a roadie.... um... to help me get may gear off, um, er, to a gig, like.... Robin |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: GUEST,Ellenpoly Date: 03 Aug 04 - 10:49 AM I just caught up on this thread. Damn, brucie! Half my once-white clothes are a nice shade of pink by now! I often point people to the frig and figure my job is done. Life is too short for dainty little sandwiches made by moi. I enjoy reading a map, give directions to whoever wants them and fold my laundry (but really, DOES anyone fold their underwear??) And of course you soak the dishes! Less elbow grease needed (though over night at most...days? I do like to get to them before the cockroaches decide it's smorgasbord time.) And Amos-"that role's been taken by a quadruped" was my whole POINT! So it just goes to show, there are no hard and fast rules when it comes to who wants what and how things are done according to our gender...and being best of friends means the gates of communication stay open, WIDE open-even when it sometimes hurts. If we didn't make mistake along the way, we'd never learn, but for me, the point is to be allowed to make those mistakes, and not to think making them will be the end of the world. We're all flawed, fragile and and singular creatures. Just being nice to each other goes a long long way. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: GUEST Date: 03 Aug 04 - 11:26 AM CarolC ...your 31July 12:45pm post: The behavioristic psychology approach you suggest is intriguing, but I'm having trouble envisioning an example. Care to provide one, hypothetical or otherwise, to illustrate your point? Thanks, GUEST |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: CarolC Date: 03 Aug 04 - 01:53 PM Hmmm... Obviously every situation is different, but one thing Bobert's friend could try would be to work on not feeling victimized when his wife gets angry because he didn't read her mind. He could try to remain emotionally neutral and either go water the plants without responding to her anger, or to carry on as he was doing without responding to her anger. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: GUEST,weerover Date: 03 Aug 04 - 02:04 PM Let her water her own damn plants. wr. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: Bobert Date: 03 Aug 04 - 03:19 PM Okay, now you all realy got me going on this women thing. Laundry!!!. Yup, I don't do it but I would if asked but I do hang it up on the line and here is where the real rub is: The P-Vine, I mean my friend's wife, is of Irish descent and thinks that there are clothes line monitors that come around an' grade you on yer danged clothes line skills. These grades are forwarded off to St. Peter who pulls them up on Judgement Day and is atnding therre at the danged Pearly Gate with a thick three ring binder filled with these clothes lines reports... "Ahhhh, we're rea; sorry, Bobert, but yer gonna have to do a couple hunner years on the pergatory bench fir hangin' the teeshirts from the top rather than the bottom. And here's another report where the socks weren't hung in matching pairs. That's gonna cost youa couple more hundred years! And look at this bed sheet... And pants are hung from the waist part down rather than the cuffs... Hummmm, as long as yer gonna have on the bench you might as well just pick Hell because they can take you right away... Awwwww, what's this? Hmmmmm. we see you were a blues player, too! We'll call down for them to come up and get you. Sorry. Better luck in the next life..." I mean, gol danged! Is this az woman thing too. Heck, like who cares as long as the stuff dries. Ain't like a sock ain't gonna dry 'cause its a black sock and is pinned with a blue one. Right? Black sock to Bobert: "I ain't dryin' 'cause I don't particularly like the company... You know how them blue socks is. Never matching nuthin' and think they're so danged purdy. Nope, I ain't dryin' fir nuthin'...." Nevermind... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: GUEST,TTCM Date: 03 Aug 04 - 03:40 PM Women want to be ruled by their males and made to obey. Sometimes with a slap in the face, sometimes with a mere spanking, but always thhey know secretly in their hearts, that they want to be punished for anything they do wrong. They want to be made to follow the rules. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: GUEST,weerover Date: 03 Aug 04 - 03:45 PM ...and I'm just willing to bet someone out there is so ready to go off on one that they take GUEST,TTCM seriously... wr. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: mg Date: 03 Aug 04 - 03:49 PM the clothesline is an example of obsessive compulsive behavior. Darned if I knew Irish had it because I hang clothes willy nilly. There are several approaches: One is to hang your own clothes and do your own laundry. Another is to offer to hang all the clothes your way, but neatly etc. Another is to discuss the oc component and say you are willing to do the necessary work but not the obsessive component. I refuse to do dishwasher loading for people who are compulsive about it. If I am helping and I do it reasonably, I will do it how I want to do it. They really get compulsive about loading dishwashers. Also folding baby diapers. You honestly don't need to ever ever ever fold baby diapers. Also you don't need to heat up baby milk...assuming you have a strong healthy baby. I don't know about unhealthy babies... mg |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: GUEST,SueB Date: 03 Aug 04 - 10:08 PM Sorry, there, Kendall and Jacqui, I obviously picked a bad example of the condition I sometimes refer to as Old-Fogeyism. As you can see, I have a few "buttons" and "issues" that sometimes get inadvertantly pushed, and in that thread about how young people have no sense of humour, I mistook you for one of those geezers that has to be humoured, or else. I think I stayed out of that thread, because I didn't want to offend, and I shouldn't have brought it up in this context. (Banging forehead with shoe, repeatedly.) As far as the rest of my remarks go, I hope Bobert didn't take them too seriously. I never set out with the intention of offending people, honest. I just say what I'm thinking, and whoops! there I went again. As far as laundry is concerned, there is a right way and a wrong way to do everything, and laundry is no exception. Hanging socks up in pairs makes perfect sense to me - saves trouble later. Hanging up teeshirts from the bottom also has its logic - I'd rather have the hem stretched or marked by the clothespins than the shoulders. Sometimes we're especially particular about the little things that we do have control over because it takes our minds off the scary big stuff that we have no control over at all. Also it's possible that your friend's wife is suffering from the same disease I am - the "If you want anything done right you have to do it yourself" syndrome, and one of the symptoms is a nagging sensation of resentment... No cure for that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: Bobert Date: 03 Aug 04 - 10:15 PM SueB: I think you is related to the P-Vine, I mean my friend's wife (this is getting tiresome but a guy's got to keep his pride, don't he??? nevermind)... Well, gol danged, that clothes line etiquet does make some sense now that its been explainerated to me and my frined should just get over it... Heck, ain't like nuthin' kinky 'er like votin' fir Bush 'er nuthin so he oughtta jus' get over it, hang 'um up Irish style and pick a battle, should there be any, that he can win... That's his story and Iz stickin' to it... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: Cluin Date: 03 Aug 04 - 11:29 PM Me. I can't help it. That's just the way it is. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: Bobert Date: 03 Aug 04 - 11:32 PM and then Cluin woke up.... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: GUEST Date: 04 Aug 04 - 12:42 AM So CarolC, if I understand correctly, you are saying that by removing the emotional response to ... for argument's sake let's stick with your example .... ...you are saying that in response to not being able to read person X's mind with regard to watering the plants... ... if person Y, who didn't read person X's mind, removed the feeling of victimization from the response, the behavior of expecting person Y to read person X's mind would diminish?...... ...even if person Y went ahead and watered the plants anyway? Wouldn't the response of watering the plants - with or without the feeling of victimization - reinforce the expectation for person Y to read person X's mind? I can sort of see how the behavior would diminish if person Y removed the feeling of victimization and did not read person X's mind and didn't water the plants. The behavioral model predicts that the behavior would eventually become extinct (but allowing for other dynamics operating at the same time that the model doesn't take into account, other negative behaviors might arise to take its place. We can leave speculation about what shape those negative behaviors might take up to the individual's imagination).... I was always fascinated with behavioral psychology, but wondered how well it would work in situations such as relationships where many daynamics are operating. Boring, dry, dull, technical stuff. But if someone could come up with a therapy or whatever that would be applicable across many situations in which any number of dynamics might be working at any time, then.........??? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: GUEST,peedeecee Date: 04 Aug 04 - 01:05 AM What women really want is a closet relationship -- that is, a guy they keep in the closet until they feel like having some time with a guy. Then back into the closet with him. (My husband is on sabbatical, and he's HERE all the time! He retires next year - aagh!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: jacqui.c Date: 04 Aug 04 - 01:50 AM Sue - no problem. I agree with you about hanging clothes and, yes, I get that feeling of do it yourself to get it done right, so I did when I was married. Resentment - when it happens take a few deep breaths and work out WHY you feel that way, then do something about it. If it's down to your own attitudes and expectations are they right? Working down that route finally showed me that the marriage I was in was not working and, due to very different expectations, wasn't going to. So I got out of it. He's remarried someone who is much more his idea of what a wife should be and I've now found someone who accepts me as I am, not as he would like me to be. It was a bit drastic but necessary for the situation. However, if other parts of the relationship are good then TALKING about the things that iritate, without bringing too much emotion into play, can work wonders. If you can't keep the emotion out of it - try a marriage counsellor - to preserve something you cherish it's worth it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: GUEST,SueB Date: 04 Aug 04 - 02:38 AM That stuff about "If you want it done right, do it yourself" syndrome etc was meant to be sort of tongue-in-cheek, I was kind of poking fun at myself. I yam what I yam, what can I do? That sort of thing. Actually the best way to do laundry, bar none, is to haul it across the street in a pillow case and pick it up the next day washed, folded and wrapped in white butcher paper like some kind of enormously large roast. I really miss that little laundry drop-off service across from my first little apartment in Cambridge, Mass. Sometimes you would get back an odd sock that you had never seen before, which was like getting a little zen puzzle to ponder over. Also, I once lost a shirt I didn't like, but several weeks later gained a really cool Grateful Dead t-shirt that I slept in for a week and then returned with the dirty laundry. It didn't come back to me. I guess it was just a loaner. And Cluin, you're absolutely right. Now that you mention it, I do want you. Desperately. But alas, I am promised to another. Farewell, my love. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: Cluin Date: 04 Aug 04 - 03:14 AM Ah, if I had a dollar for every time I heard that, Sue... (I could get a new set of guitar strings) That's okay. I'm promised too. Never mind. We'll always have Paris. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: Georgiansilver Date: 04 Aug 04 - 03:54 AM Four things a woman wants:- 1)A husband who will be there for her whatever. 2)A hot lover who satisfies her every physical need. 3)A man she can talk to about anything, whenever. 4)For the three of them never to meet. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: Kim C Date: 04 Aug 04 - 10:34 AM Well, I think Georgiansilver pretty much hit it Right Smack on the Head, right there. If they can All Three be the Same Person, that's the ideal... but let's be realistic, shall we? Anyhow, I have another solution for Bobert, I mean, Bobert's friend. Buy a crystal ball. I got one from the Barnes & Noble for $15. Now I have no excuse not to know what's going on, unless for some reason it doesn't show up in the crystal ball. ;-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: mg Date: 04 Aug 04 - 12:23 PM I think deep down inside for most, not all, women, and certainly for me, is a rock-solid knowledge that he will protect them against all danger. I honestly can not understand the toilet seat and hanging laundry stuff. I want the saber-tooth tiger burglar in the night stuff. And fixing things like cars is quite wonderful. There's millions of years of evolution going on and it isn't kind to some men (and some women). Men who forget there are other women in the world and don't notice them if they should walk by naked are preferable. An all-round responsible, decent man is the bottom line for me at least. He could leave the toilet seat up or down..I don't care. Could hang clothes inside out and drooping low enough for dogs to snatch them off the line with lint in the pockets besides. mg |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: CarolC Date: 04 Aug 04 - 12:46 PM ... if person Y, who didn't read person X's mind, removed the feeling of victimization from the response, the behavior of expecting person Y to read person X's mind would diminish?...... ...even if person Y went ahead and watered the plants anyway? Wouldn't the response of watering the plants - with or without the feeling of victimization - reinforce the expectation for person Y to read person X's mind? If person Y felt that watering the plants was important, even though person X was being unreasonable in the way he or she brought it to Y's attention, then watering the plants might be a good thing to do. If person Y avoided doing something he or she felt was important just because of the behavior of person X, person Y would still be allowing his or her behavior to be dictated by person X. So the healthiest thing person Y could do would be to do whatever he or she thought was the best thing to do with regard to watering the plants, but to do it because he or she felt it was a good thing to do (or not do), and without feeling victimized by person X's behavior. Boring, dry, dull, technical stuff. But if someone could come up with a therapy or whatever that would be applicable across many situations in which any number of dynamics might be working at any time, then.........??? Then they would be Dr. Phil. (Just kidding) |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: Georgiansilver Date: 04 Aug 04 - 01:28 PM Wake up Guest...You're dreaming!! Wake up wake up!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: Nerd Date: 04 Aug 04 - 01:39 PM DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN, TTCM. You kiss Martin Gibson's Wife with that mouth? BTW, is TTCM pronounced "Tit Seam?" Just wondering. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: Liz the Squeak Date: 04 Aug 04 - 01:47 PM "Flushing the toilet with the seat up creates an aerosol, which contains whatever was in the water. You really want that shit sprayed around for you to breathe?" Flushing with the lid down creates a greater spread of that aerosol shit (think of it as the thumb over the end of the hosepipe), whereas, leaving the seat or lid up creates a lesser spread. Laundry. The majority of clothing comes with little tags on it that have a code - this code tells you how you are supposed to treat it. It's like reading the code on an electrical item or a mechanical manual. You can learn one, learn the other! And that goes for women too... my mother was brilliant at dividing laundry, trouble was, she wasn't that good at remembering which was the delicate pile.... My favourite multicoloured sweater ended up doll sized on the one occasion I let her wash it. Actually, the majority of shrinkage these days, occurs when the item is tumble dried. The heat produced in the drying cycle is often much greater than that of the average wash. Mary has it right. A partner who will protect and nurture, respect and entertain... and it goes for either sex. LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: TheBigPinkLad Date: 04 Aug 04 - 02:07 PM I'm pretty sure it varies from woman to woman. Mine wants me to paint the basement ceiling. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: kendall Date: 04 Aug 04 - 02:37 PM Nothing is good or bad. Thinking, makes them so. (Shakespere) |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: Kim C Date: 04 Aug 04 - 02:46 PM Besides what I already mentioned, I want a pony. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: SINSULL Date: 04 Aug 04 - 03:21 PM "Actually, the majority of shrinkage these days, occurs when the item is tumble dried. The heat produced in the drying cycle is often much greater than that of the average wash." really????? And just how does Viagra work to combat that? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: Blackcatter Date: 04 Aug 04 - 04:10 PM From the Coors/Molson thread Wet Pussy recipe 1 oz Chambord Raspberry Liqueur 2 oz Irish Cream 6 oz Milk Pour the chambord, irish cream, and milk or cream into a shaker with ice. Shake, strain and pour into a champagne saucer. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: Liz the Squeak Date: 04 Aug 04 - 06:20 PM Alternate recipe. Take one cat. Take one pond..... LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: Cluin Date: 04 Aug 04 - 07:41 PM Ooooh, all this dirty talk! Keep it up and I may be called upon to unfurl Mr. Wiggly. Or is that statement redundant? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: Bobert Date: 04 Aug 04 - 10:48 PM Cluin and Mr Wiggly, Hang in there, fellas. We're gonna get you all cyber-laid if it takes all night and day... Ladies? Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: Amos Date: 04 Aug 04 - 10:58 PM Take one pint Irish cream and one 5-pound sack of ice cubes. Combine and let sit until just liquid; do not let warming above 34 degrees F. occur. Pour on Mister Wiggly. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: Bobert Date: 04 Aug 04 - 11:10 PM How kind...I was gonna suggest a ballpeen hammer and an anvil, myself, Amos. Works every time... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: GUEST,Fifi Date: 05 Aug 04 - 12:49 AM We 'ave 'eard about you boy from Ontario. You must unfold your ting. Ow do you do dat widout 'urting yourself? Don't be shy. I will 'elp you. After the firs twelve inch, the res jus slip in like whoosh. Drop me your line when you 'ave a few day to spare. Your loving Fifi. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: Georgiansilver Date: 05 Aug 04 - 05:08 AM Fifi sat almost in a haze in front of her computer, as she remembered the days before the operation, when she was known as "Cyril". Those days had been difficult to say the least, being as he thought then a woman trapped in a mans body. The operation was supposed to solve all Cyrils problems and he had so looked forward to being Fifi, a newly liberated woman. However, In spite of the operation, Fifi never regained confidence in herself and felt confused about her identity, so when she/he came on Mudcat, she/he could only appear as a guest. What made it worse was the new found anger and anguish that she/he was feeling and it came out on the Cat as expletives and putting others down....known on the Cat as the MG type (not Mary Garvey of course). What made it even worse still, was the fact that she/he now no longer understood what either a man or a woman wanted and could only summon up some sort of perverted imagination as the their needs. Sad to say, Fifi was destined to disappear into obscurity after making her presence felt. (no offence intended here, just a bit of imagination) Best wishes. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: Nerd Date: 05 Aug 04 - 09:27 PM Hey, someone removed a post from this thread in which TTCM claimed to have had sex with MG's wife. I bring this up only because my post of 04 Aug 04 - 01:39 PM makes no sense without TTCM's post. TTCM was rather filthy, so I guess I can see why it was deleted, but I feel a bit of a fool being left hanging; could the clones just delete mine, too? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 05 Aug 04 - 10:31 PM I suppose then they will have to delete the post previous to this one of mine, which is one of yours asking for another one of yours to be deleted because it refers to a previous post of TTCM's which was deleted? (That should have gone in the TOMSQT thread, sorry!) But then, won't it be necessary to delete this post too because it then won't make sense? Not that any of my posts HAVE to make sense I suppose.... You are a Guy aren't you Nerd? :-) Robin |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: Bobert Date: 05 Aug 04 - 10:44 PM Yo, Nerd... Ya' gotta loosen up there, pal... Makin' sense ain't a desirable quality in this joint so... turn up the radio... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: Nerd Date: 05 Aug 04 - 11:55 PM Sorry, guys, lost my head there for a moment! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: bflat Date: 06 Aug 04 - 10:41 AM Bobert, I know you said it didn't have anything to do with the way she approached you about getting away but I think you have to go back to that point and perhaps further to ask why she felt she could talk to you that way in the first place. I think Frieda, LTS, Mary Garvey and a few others mentioned respect in their posts. It seems to me that the real question should be why is there a lack of respect in this relationship. Find out the background to that question and build upon it. Best Wishes, Ellen |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: Bobert Date: 07 Aug 04 - 08:53 AM I get no respect, Ellen! Awww, jus' funnin'... Actually, since that day, the P-Vine has been much better... Being diagnose with a heart condition might have something to do with it but, either way, I think we're making progress... And I am asking her several times a day if there is any thing I can do. Plus I'm not the type to sit around much. I'm always doing something. The worst habit I have is playing on this pudder thing which accounts fir a couple hours a day total. She don't like that but, hey, it's down from the 3 or 4 hours a couple years ago when I half figgured out how to use it... R.E.S...P.E.C.T.... Yup, little goes a long way, fir sure... BObert |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: GUEST,Desdemona Date: 07 Aug 04 - 09:27 AM The Wife of Bath told us, over 600 years ago: sovereignty!! D |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: freda underhill Date: 07 Aug 04 - 09:56 AM What Do Women Want???... .......grated cheese! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: Nerd Date: 07 Aug 04 - 12:18 PM Desdemona, we've been through the Wife of Bath/Wedding of Sir Gawain answer back toward the thread's beginning. To simply say "sovereignty" is misleading; some 'catters were claiming that sovereignty meant simply "some measure of control over their own lives," making these women seem only reasonable. But as I pointed out, "sovereignty" is clearly stated, in the extant versions of that story, to mean "control over men's bodies and property." In other words, they don't just want to be equal, but to replace men as the masters in relationships. In the Wife of Bath's Tale, this is expressed thus: "Women desire to have sovereignty over her husband as well as her lover and for to be in mastery above him." |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???... From: GUEST,Desdemona Date: 07 Aug 04 - 01:10 PM I *know* (I'm a mediaevalist by trade)!!!! D |
