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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: dianavan Date: 06 Jun 06 - 08:22 PM Annony Mouse - You said, "...the terrorists get into Canada pretty easily." Thats U.S. propaganda. Those who were recently arrested were mostly Canadian citizens or Permanent Residents. None of them "crossed the border". The reason the U.S. keeps pointing a finger at Canada is that they were caught with their pants down on 911. Please cite the source of your information and provide more than one or two examples, please. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: robomatic Date: 06 Jun 06 - 09:01 PM My feeling for Canada is such that a terrorist attack whether from within or without, would be for me no different than an attack on the United States. ...still wounded from 911. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: GUEST,Fernando Date: 06 Jun 06 - 11:18 PM Hey six, you ain't nothing but a number. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: GUEST,petr Date: 07 Jun 06 - 02:48 PM to return to the subject.. when members of the ISlamic community were asked to comment on the arrests one response was;..'these are young people frustrated with the continuing Iraq war and Afghanistan etc..' Canada stayed out of the IRaq war. Despite the election of a US lapdog pm, (minority govt. at that) the Canadian public is overwhelmingly against the US war in Iraq, and even questions the increased emphasis on warfighting in Afghanistan without any stated goals for withdrawal. It would seem the intent of a terrorist attack in Canada would be to to swing public opinion in favor of a more US style war on terror policy. - which is ultimately designed to get more Jihadist recruits in the Islamic world. (Osama spends 50cents to get the US to spend millions) So it seems that Jihadist websites are the latest recruiting and training tool - why travel to a training camp when its all on the net. Why not a concerted effort to shut down or block these sites..or why is it so difficult? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: GUEST, eric Date: 07 Jun 06 - 04:06 PM >>It would seem the intent of a terrorist attack in Canada would be to swing public opinion in favor of a more US style war on terror policy.<< Absolutely. If logic is involved, that is the only viable conclusion. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: GUEST,Fernando Date: 07 Jun 06 - 04:17 PM What do these people want anyway? Have they ever said what they want other than to kill everybody that does not think like they do? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: CarolC Date: 07 Jun 06 - 04:40 PM One article I read has said that they want the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan and the release of Muslim prisoners. I haven't seen any reports anywhere saying that they want to kill everyone who does not think like they do |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: GUEST,petr Date: 07 Jun 06 - 05:03 PM There is a difference between stated goals, and actual goals. it is naive to think they would publicize their actual goals. (for instance even though Bin Laden criticized the US for the invasion of IRaq - ultimately it was a gift to OBL as it enraged the Muslim world and led to the recruitment of thousands of Jihadists. IN spending maybe $200,000 US with the 9/11 attack it resulted in two wars - and billions of US $ being spent. (Joseph STiglitz - former world bank economist - has estimated the IRaq War cost to the US economy between 1.5$-2 Trillion US dollars. Not to mention the recruitment of 1000s of angry young Muslim men to the Jihadist cause.) OF course its likely that Osamas project just happened to collide and energize the project of the NeoCons who were already planning to topple Iraq - install a friendly govt, and increase the oil output thereby breaking OPECs control. Getting back to the Canadian terror group, if such brazen attack had occured Id say it was highly unlikely that Canada would withdraw from Afghanistan. Rather it would lead to a more hardline govt. and possible backlash to the Muslim community. Anymore than 9/11 didnt lead to a more isolated and peace loving America. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: robomatic Date: 07 Jun 06 - 05:19 PM A good movie to get hold of is "The Battle Of Algiers" a superb re-enactment of many actual events involving a Muslim/Algerian terror organization (with a political arm) and the French led anti-terrorist activities which led to the capture and killing of most of the primary members. Despite the apparent success of the government, the French left Algeria. The actions of a minority of terrorists can so polarize a situation that it may lead to mass conflict and possible resettlement, forced or otherwise. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: dianavan Date: 07 Jun 06 - 08:25 PM What do they want? Depends on what news channel you watch. I heard this morning that they wanted to behead our PM, Stephen Harper. When I told my daughter, she said, "Those aren't terrorists, they're patriots!" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: C. Ham Date: 07 Jun 06 - 08:32 PM Oh, so your daughter believes in killing politicians with whom she disagrees. Where did she learn her values? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: dianavan Date: 07 Jun 06 - 09:04 PM C. Ham - She does not value Harper, nor do I. When you get a PM like Harper, its easy to be mistaken for an American. We'd rather stick to Canadian values. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: number 6 Date: 07 Jun 06 - 09:16 PM Harper. Bush. Aren't two peeple that I hold to high esteem .... but I certainly don't condone or wish the killing of either .... or wish upon anyone. A Canadian value I guess, I dunno, maybe just a humane value. sIx |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: GUEST,Fernando Date: 07 Jun 06 - 11:05 PM That's right we have to see a report before we form an idea of our own. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: CarolC Date: 07 Jun 06 - 11:37 PM If you form an idea that isn't based on any facts, Fernando, you're just making stuff up. That's called "fiction". |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: GUEST,Fernando Date: 07 Jun 06 - 11:45 PM Well you hear a little there and you read a little there and first thing you know you have an idea. But if you hear somebody else expressing their idea you can always say it has not been reported yet so it looks they don't know anything. Has it been reported that I am making stuff up? Until I read a report, I will go by the idea I have formed based on the bits of information gathered. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: GUEST,Russ Date: 08 Jun 06 - 01:59 PM Why can't America and Canada merge into one big ass super power? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: pdq Date: 08 Jun 06 - 02:08 PM Quebec |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: GUEST,3refs Date: 08 Jun 06 - 03:10 PM Quebec my ass! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: C. Ham Date: 08 Jun 06 - 03:51 PM C. Ham - She does not value Harper, nor do I. When you get a PM like Harper, its easy to be mistaken for an American. We'd rather stick to Canadian values. I don't care for Harper or most of his policies. However, it is not a "Canadian value" to wish that elected politicians with whom you disagree be decapitated by Islamic terrorists as your daughter (and I presume you since you're bragging about her cleverness) advocate. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: GUEST,the real me Date: 08 Jun 06 - 04:17 PM "Why can't America and Canada merge into one big ass super power?" I take it you're an American ... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: Little Hawk Date: 08 Jun 06 - 05:13 PM Why, Russ? Because we Canadians prefer not to live in a fast developing police state, thanks. We paid in blood to keep you guys out of here in 1812-14, don't forget. And we, like a great many modern societies, have free medical care. Without it, my middle-class family would presently be completely bankrupt, due to my father's recent lengthy illness. (By the way, I was initially a bit surprised that the RCMP did not swoop down here and sieze my dog as a primary suspect...but then I realized....he's not Muslim. He's a Satanist. Or something like that...I'm not sure exactly. He's definitely bent on some kind of takeover, anyway.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: robomatic Date: 08 Jun 06 - 06:35 PM "Why can't America and Canada merge into one big ass super power?" In the 1770's and 1780's we (US) tried it at least once (Musical reference: Stan Rogers "Barrett's Privateers"), and 'back' then we had a shapely colonial ass. Then we tried again in the War of 1812 (Musical reference: Arrogant Worms "Battle Of 1812") Now that our ass is swollen huge and we can barely sit at our desk I doubt the Canadians are very interested in getting near it, even though we look so post-retro chic adorable as we tool by after work in our fully loaded Dodge Ram on duellies. . . |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: dianavan Date: 08 Jun 06 - 07:27 PM C. Ham - I don't believe in killing anybody nor does my daughter. It was a joke. Maybe thats the biggest difference between Canadians and Americans. Canadians have a sense of humour. Especially when it comes to politics. We both know that it probably doesn't matter who the PM is, he would have been targetted regardless but since we don't like Harper, the opportunity to joke about it was just too great. Personally, I don't like Harper one bit and if he died tomorrow it would probably save thousands of lives in the long run and definitely save the Canada we know today. number 6 - Killing is definitely not a Canadian value. I'm just saying that with Harper in power, we will be unable to retain our Canadian value system. Everyone knows that he is another Bush lapdog. Anyway, I'd rather see the terrorists target David Emerson. He's even worse. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: number 6 Date: 08 Jun 06 - 09:06 PM "He's definitely bent on some kind of takeover, anyway." LH .... he's Tuetonic. dianavan ... I agree Harper is attempting to (and with the Bush regime pulling strings) aligning Canada politically with the U.S. Sorry, I'd prefer fanatics not to kill anyone regardless ... and if they did, this would generate 'Americana' fear into the populace of Canada. We don't need that. sIx |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: number 6 Date: 08 Jun 06 - 09:15 PM I should elaborate .... 'American' fear mongering into the populace that Bush takes great delight in ... providing the backing he needs to carry on with his agendas. sIx |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: Little Hawk Date: 08 Jun 06 - 09:29 PM Yes, he is teutonic, no doubt about that...but it's the little tiny horns that are just barely beginning to show on his forehead that worry me. They're right above the little brown eyespots that bob up and down while he contemplates his next important challenge...how to steal the roast beef while no one is watching. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: dianavan Date: 09 Jun 06 - 12:57 AM Absolutely Teutonic! Its not only the horns that are beginning to show, its the steely blue eyes with the pin point pupils that worry me. Never mind he has the body of an overgrown, pidgeon toed, 2-year old. I wish Donuel has better knowlege of Harper's character. I'd like to see a cartoon. Hey, where is Donuel? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: GUEST Date: 09 Jun 06 - 01:06 AM This is why Canada's currently experiencing a bracing dose of "terrorism": They're called the Bilderberg group. They include European royalty, national leaders, political power-brokers, and heads of the world's biggest companies. Those who follow the Bilderberg group say it got Europe to adopt a common currency, got Bill Clinton elected after he agreed to support NAFTA, and is spending this week deciding what to do about high oil prices and that pesky fundamentalist president of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.... http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060608.wbilder0608/BNStory/National/home Phony terrorism is reported all the time in the U.S., usually after congress passes some unconstitutional new law. Pass the law, the next day pop someone for "terrorism" and report on that for 2-3 days. Hell, they even said they killed Zarqawi again. About 4-5 times they've reported killing him now. They must REALLY be getting heat at the Bilderberg meeting this year. Really trying to divert people. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: Little Hawk Date: 09 Jun 06 - 12:19 PM Good points, Guest. Dianavan, we are talking at cross purposes here. You are talking about Steven Harper. I am talking about my dachshund. I'm not sure which one I would trust less in a sticky situation. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: GUEST,Russ Date: 09 Jun 06 - 12:59 PM Maybe you like being the pimple on north america's ass. Join the Ass. be the Ass. American Super State |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: GUEST Date: 09 Jun 06 - 08:53 PM You know...folks talk about GWBush as if he has some intelligence. As if he's behind his programs. He isn't. He has a 91 IQ. He took "group classes" at Yale because his individual grades would have been embarrassing, and he'd already been tapped, even back then, for prominence. He's just carrying out the orders of the Bilderberg Group and The World Bank and the U.N. It's really all so simple when you understand "globalism" is being forced down our throats. The groups I just mentioned created a debt-based society so nations would go into debt, and now they're fostering terrorism to deepen that debt (increased military spending), and soon they'll start foreclosing on their mortgaged property. The US is going down (with a fight, to be sure, when Queen Elizabeth's and Juan Carlos' troops show up to seize their illegally-obtained properties in the states), but the couple hundred people who have run the world for the past 500 years are behind all terrorism. Abdul Yokel in Bumburn Iraq isn't capable of striking at the U.S., or Ontario, or London, and we all know it. Our leaders are selling us out. And the easiest way to get you to go along with the program is to scare you. It is so, so simple. To their credit, though, the Canadians seem to get less flustered over this bogus terrorism. Could it be you folks see it for what it is? They saw through it in Spain when the fascists bombed Madrid before their last national election. Voted the bastards out of office. But then they don't have electronic voting in Spain like we do in the U.S., so we're going to have to get rid of our murderers some other way. I favor trials for treason. The Madrid bombing was 911 days after 9-11, by the way. Juan Carlos is like a 246th degree Mason, and he really likes that numerological stuff. Those people ought to be glad they're allowed to keep their stinkin thrones and just quit bombing us. It's getting kind of tedious. Texas Guest |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: dianavan Date: 09 Jun 06 - 10:19 PM From the Toronto Star: "The common denominator among them has been that they are Muslims, some rationalizing their irrationality in warped Islamic terminology. But what are we to make of that any more than that most white-collar criminals happen to be Jewish or Christian? Or that many members of the Mafia have been Catholic?" and btw - Isn't the Bilderberg group meeting in Ottawa this week-end? Funny how the big bust happened right before the arrival of some of the most powerful men in Europe and North America. What a coincidence! I wonder what religions they belong to? Criminals are criminals. It doesn't matter what religion they belong to and it certainly isn't an issue when its white collar crime. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: *daylia* Date: 10 Jun 06 - 08:22 AM Gee, thanks for the insights, GUEST. Really, I mean it. I've read this stuff before, but not for a while now. It does ring true, unfortunately. So what can we do about it, huh? Crawl back under our little rocks and hide? Put our lives on the line, get ahold of some nitro and blast 'em all out of Ottawa? Make a daily habit of venting our frustrations and fears and hopelessness on our fellow Catters? Or just forget it and enjoy every precious moment of life on this beautiful planet to the max, no matter what? I vote the last option. Yes, it's socially irresponsible I suppose, but it works for me. Life's too short to waste getting caught up in other people's illusions and delusions and hates and fears and power plays, no matter how global. So do what you will, ye terrorists and Bildenburgers -- in my stubborness, I DEFY you all by staying just as peachy as ever! And even if u blast me right off the face of the planet, I'll STILL be just peachy. Different, yes, but peachy nonetheless. And so will you all. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: GUEST Date: 10 Jun 06 - 09:08 AM a href="http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/06/09/060609182249.1er4rqqb.html">http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/06/09/060609182249.1er4rqqb.html Even the mainstream media is having to report the Bilderberg group now. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: DougR Date: 10 Jun 06 - 02:39 PM How can it be possible? There are NO terrorists in Canada! Just ask dianavan or number 6. They'll tell you. DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: GUEST Date: 10 Jun 06 - 02:47 PM DougR, Dianavan doesn't think there are NO terrorists in Canada. She just wants them to kill David Emerson and Stephen Harper. And she applauds her daughter who says the terrorists are patriots. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: Greg F. Date: 10 Jun 06 - 06:41 PM Douggie: Mudcat's own Professional Prat. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: GUEST Date: 10 Jun 06 - 09:10 PM Well, here's what one guy did, daylia. He started a website and has made a dozen videos tracking the growth of the global police state. And a couple days ago he flew from Austin here up to report on the Bilderberg group in Canada: http://www.infowars.com/articles/nwo/alex_detained.htm http://www.infowars.com/articles/nwo/bilderberg_mafia.htm http://www.infowars.com/articles/nwo/kanata.htm http://www.infowars.com/articles/nwo/secretb.htm Because of him, we now have the list of the 125 participants at this year's conference. From Queen Beatrix to some Rockefellers to Mr. Wolfowitz, GWBush advisor in term 1 and now head of the World Bank. Because of people like Jones, the Bilderbergs can no longer operate in the dark. Because of what he just did, less than 2 days ago. Hell, the number of countries they can meet in keeps shrinking because they are wanted criminals. Gangsters and war criminals. George Soros is a good case in point. Kissinger. These guys are Nazi-like hunted criminals. Anyway, I just make CD-R's of the 9-11 videos nowadays and hand them out to people and tell them they and their kids will die in concentration camps if they don't do something. And they all say, "Like what?" And I say, "Like this. Disseminate information and get ready to defend yourself. These slugs can't stand exposure. They have to operate in secret, and that's no longer possible. Spread the word." Seriously. If you la-dee-da, you're toast. This is a music forum...do any of you folks write songs about the 9-11 govt-sponsored mass murders? Or the London subway bombings that were govt-sponsored? You know, you do what you can. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: *daylia* Date: 11 Jun 06 - 03:06 PM ...do any of you folks write songs about the 9-11 govt-sponsored mass murders? Or the London subway bombings that were govt-sponsored? Well, I can only speak for myself, but my answer is no, I have not written any poems or music to date about these horrific and tragic events. I usually don't find such depressing, negative topics musically inspirational in any way. Sorry, but Leonard Cohen I just ain't! Besides, although the information you present is compelling and does 'ring true' imo, that's ONLY my opinion. "Ringing true" is wonderful, but it's just not enough to warrant the reaction you suggest. What you've claimed here about the BG is not fact. It's only conjecture - a conspiracy theory. Such theories are, unfortunately, a dime a dozen these days. And I, for one, am not willing to go out of my way to distribute such upsetting, negative and unsubstantiated theories to the public. I'll leave that up to Alex Jones, Michael Moore etc etc etc. They probably do much better job of it than I ever could anyway. Thanks for posting this important, if sobering, food for thought GUEST. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: *daylia* Date: 11 Jun 06 - 03:50 PM PS Looks like the Bilderberg Group can inspire rappers/hip-hop artists though ... Bilderberg Group Meeting: Ottawa, June 8 - 11, 2006 yo souljahs, if this is it, doo-wop, please let me know... so, the biggest power brokers in the world are meeting in our hood to mess up our backyard, and what are we gonna do about it? gangsta's? hustla's? ridah's? thugs? conscious with a concept and a conscience? if you're half as hard as you say you are, if you're half as smart as you say you are, and if you wanna talk about "the system" and know what you're talking about... peep this. it's about damn time hip hop and the rest of the shtruggul linked up and faced down the police state, used each other as cover fire, meant "ONE" when we said it, and let them mofo's know... "...we ain't goin' out like that, we ain't goin' out like that... (we ain't goin' out!)... we ain't goin' out like that, we ain't goin' out like that..." And a photo of the parking lot at the Brook St Resort in Ottawa, as the members of the BG arrived this week According to the CTV other guests at the resort were asked to check-out before Thursday, cars left in the parking lot were towed and members of the hotel gym were told it would be inaccessible for four days. Even uniformed Ottawa police are required show identification to private security personnel before passing through the gates - a security measure they say is unprecedented. The timing of the arrests of these alleged "terrorists" in Ontario couldn't have been more |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: dianavan Date: 11 Jun 06 - 10:23 PM ...and now we find out that these young men were converted to terrorists by Saudis. Wahabis. Why has Saudi Arabia gotten off so easy? Seems to me the 911 terrorists were mostly Saudis, as well. How does Saudi Arabia escape so much blame? Why isn't the U.S. invading them? Maybe its because Wahabi fundamentalists, Christian fundamentalists and Zionists all have something in common. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: number 6 Date: 11 Jun 06 - 10:33 PM From what I understand, the Bush family are Saudis? Or at least their money is. sIx |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: Little Hawk Date: 11 Jun 06 - 11:47 PM I pretty much agree with you on that stuff, Guest. Have read the Alex Jones material fairly extensively, and seen the video on 911 and the Murrah building bombing. Yes, I am convinced that the general public is being manipulated by a controlled media and the use of fear tactics. Yes, I am about 98% convinced that 911 was an iside job, planned in America, as was Oklahoma...as are most of these horrific events that we see unfolding. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: Donuel Date: 12 Jun 06 - 10:41 AM Besides plotting to blow up the Parliment and behead the Prime Minsister, the terrorist defense lawyer says he has another bombshell to release tommorrow. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: CarolC Date: 12 Jun 06 - 10:57 AM Here's a nice, practical, Canadian-type of approach to solving the problem of extremist Islam in Canada... proposed by Canadian Muslims, and being heard by the prime minister (can't imagine a group of Muslims in the US ever even having an opportunity to speak with Bush). http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1845&ncid=1845&e=1&u=/cpress/20060611/ca_pr_on_na/terror_harper_muslims |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: *daylia* Date: 12 Jun 06 - 01:07 PM According to the defence lawyer for one of the accused, the arrests were timed suspiciously, ie to coincide with a vote in Parliament to extend the "Anti-terrorist Act". The proposed changes sacrifice dearly-held Canadian rights and freedoms, creating more of an American-style 'police state' here. At stake are the right to privacy, to a fair trial, to fair and humane treatment by the police and the media, to be viewed and treated as innocent until proven guilty. For example, Canadian citizens suspected of planning 'terrorism' could be electronically spied on without censor, detained without charge for up to 72 hours and subject, I suppose, to the same decidedly 'un-Canadian' treatment those 17 detainees in Ontario are currently undergoing ie "..the suspects were being treated differently than other people charged under the Criminal Code" "...when the suspects first appeared in court after their arrests, they were surrounded by police teams with machine-guns, dogs and helicopters" "...kept in rooms that are lit 24 hours a day" " ...denied access to the outside for the first five days" "... have five minutes to eat their meals or they are taken away" "...when they are taken somewhere by guards, they must walk with their legs upright and torso at a 90-degree angle with their arms stretched out" http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/06/12/galati-client.html |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: dianavan Date: 13 Jun 06 - 12:54 AM I am almost sure that none of these so-called terrorists will ever be convicted because the defense lawyers are saying there is absolutely no chance of a fair trial and too many people (including the Prime Minister) have already judged them to be terrorists. So great! - it will probably be thrown out of court. Isn't that convenient. Make a big show (knowing they are innocent or that they don't have enough evidence) so that 'security certificates' and holding people without charging them will seem like a good idea for the future. Just another way to scare the public into accepting the loss of basic rights and freedoms. I believe that these men were extremists but I am not so sure that it wasn't a set up. After all, it was the RCMP who delivered the fertilizer. The fact that the RCMP accomodated the plans to build a bomb makes you wonder if the extremists could have purchased that much fertilizer without detection. In any event, we will probably never know if these men are guilty or not but the damage has already been done. Canadian people are now wondering if we might need more laws and stricter law enforcement. I think that was the idea in the first place. Guilt or innocence doesn't really matter anymore. The goal is to take another step closer to a police state. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario From: *daylia* Date: 13 Jun 06 - 07:30 AM Looks like you're right, dianavan -- we may never know if these men were guilty of anything. One of the judges placed a publication ban on the proceedings yesterday -- and this after the media has had a heydey with these goings-on for the last few weeks. How convenient! First, violate their human rights and convince the public they're guilty, then bar us all from the proceedings. After all, what do the facts matter to the unwashed masses? What matters is ridding the True North Strong and Free of these bloodthirsty 'terrorist' types who threaten us -- or more specifically, threaten Big Brother south of the border. And a horrible threat this really is -- prior to these 17 arrests in Ontario, all of one (that's 1 or ONE) person has been charged under the Anti-terrorist Act, which was implemented after 9/11. We should really re-write the whole constitution over it, I think. ;-) |
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