Catters on Facebook

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 07 Aug 09 - 12:40 PM

Please can those affected by this write to Zoe at Facebook page including the information she needs in your message...and send a PM to Richard Bridge as well with those details, as he asked earlier up this thread..

This is where you write to:

[e-mail]


"Hi Lizzie,

We would like to investigate this further, but will need some additional information about the reported accounts in order to locate them. Please provide the following information:

- The exact names listed on the accounts
- Any networks associated with the accounts
- Links (URLs) to the accounts' profile pages or search listings
- Lists of any email addresses that may have been used to register the account
- A description of the profile pictures

Once we receive this information and can locate the accounts in question, we will review them and get back to you. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.

Thanks for contacting Facebook,

Arielle
User Operations
Facebook"


This is important, folks. We need to stop the people who are doing this. More than that, we need to make Facebook understand that NO WAY is it permissable for their site (or indeed any other site) to allow this theft of OUR identities and for them to then allow defamation of character to take place.

This is very, VERY serious.

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 07 Aug 09 - 01:07 PM

These sorts of sites are wide open to abuse and very little protection appears to be in place against those who would use them to abuse others, despite the obvious dangers. A the recent clearing of an adult who created a MySpace account impersonating a minor, in order to psychologically groom, attack and publicly humiliate a child of her aquaintance, demonstrates this. The known to be psychologically vulnerable child that this adult and her fellow 'conspiritors' (minors) groomed and attacked via MySpace, committed suicide as a result of the assault.

I deliberately use the term assault, rather than the more media pleasing 'cyber-bullying' ss I personally deem such deliberate virtual psychological attack, as a form of assault. In fact as an adult of 48 was involved (she also commented that her conversations with the 13 year old victim became "Sexual"), I'd be inclined to deem it a form of 'child abuse', albeit non-physical.

See here: MySpace 'Bully' Cleared.

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Will Fly
Date: 07 Aug 09 - 01:18 PM

All social networking sites have their dangers as well as their pleasures. I recently had message in my YouTube inbox from a guy in California, asking me if I was married. I replied that such info was my business, and why was he asking? Back came the reply that he was a "cub" ad he wanted me to be his "daddy bear"!

There is apparently a gay website dedicated to older men with beards ("bears") who pal up with younger men ("cubs"). [Richard Bridge - you'd better watch out!]

Well, who'da thowt it... we learn something every day. The web never ceases to amaze me.

The Bear World Wide Woof

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Joe_F
Date: 07 Aug 09 - 08:10 PM

Will Fly: The bear subculture of gay men has existed since the 1980s and has *many* Web sites, mailing lists, magazines, books, clubs, bars, etc. The definition of "bear" is disputed (and that of "cub" even more so), but typical components of the image are a beard, hairiness, an ample belly, working-class origin, and an easygoing attitude.

In the name of the site you cite, "Woof" alludes to an interjection expressing appreciation of an attractive bear. If by chance someone woofs you on the street, you should understand it as an intended compliment.

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 08 Aug 09 - 07:48 PM

Today - I noticed 2 FB ids with the same name - (with the massive number of adds I have for game playing, I've never worried about this before, as many people may really have the same name) - the problem is that I was in the inside of adding more people - so I just skipped both... it takes a lot more time than i can spare these days to chase these sods. I used to spend ages tracking and killing spammers once...

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Will Fly
Date: 09 Aug 09 - 05:14 AM

typical components of the image are a beard, hairiness, an ample belly, working-class origin, and an easygoing attitude.

Well, I qualify, but it doesn't appeal somehow... :-)

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 09 Aug 09 - 06:04 AM

Well I actually managed to join Facebook, but I had to use a different name and a new E-Mail address to do so.

Meanwhile, the bastard who has been pretending to be me is still allowed to use my name and photo.

I am getting VERY, VERY annoyed.

Don T.

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Aug 09 - 09:35 PM

I am happy to report that quite a few of the fake mudcatters who were on Fakebook have been deleted. Regrettably there is still a fake Don, and still a fake Peace. That is not all, but I am not going to give a list openly. I would not want any that I have not yet spotted to know that I had not spotted them.

There is, however, a fake "Richard "Hoff" Bridge" on flickr. I am not on flickr.

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Aug 09 - 09:36 PM

PS - I got a fake of me zapped off bebo too.

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 11 Aug 09 - 02:55 PM

I finally got an account in my own name, by adding my middle initial, and immediately registered a very strong protest against Facebook ignoring its own terms & conditions.

An hour ago I went through the whole list of 600 Don Thompsons, and there's no BNP one in that list.

The problem I have now is that I don't know whether I'm adding the real Catters when I add friends, so, for the moment I'm not accepting friend requests unless backed up by a PM on here.

Before close of play tonight I shall be closing the Tommy Gunn identity. One is quite enough, and I shall need help from my daughter to bring some kind of order to that.

Don T.

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Sue Allan
Date: 11 Aug 09 - 07:43 PM

Well hooray that my fake Facebook identity has now disappeared folowing complaints by me and those of the indefatigable Richard Bridge: thanks Richard.

Don, I complained too to Facebook about your fake identity so am appalled it's still there. I've sent you a request to add you as a friend in your REAL identity though, to welcome you to real Facebook instead of Fakebook.

Richard, perhaps you should be flattered you're being cloned all over the place: you're obviously regarded as a real threat. Good for you!

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Joe_F
Date: 11 Aug 09 - 08:23 PM

AFAIK, I am still just me on Facebook, so perhaps I am not a threat. A bunch of the local e-queer/bear/soc.motss crowd, whom I have not seen for some years, just beFriended me en masse. I am touched, but wonder how it happened to happen.

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Jeri
Date: 11 Aug 09 - 08:35 PM

Richard, I think the putz is now having a go on YouTube.

Joe, maybe you just lifted your head above the parapet, moved into radar range, got noticed. It's Facebook. Somebody befriends you and then suggests you to all their friends. Pretty soon you've got more friends than a new lottery winner.

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: olddude
Date: 11 Aug 09 - 09:09 PM

They are also all over youtube, one of the fake catter put some crap on Bruces video's and I removed it and locked it against further comments. Any catters on youtube you may want to change the setting to either not allow comments or allow on approval only ...

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 05:41 PM

For tonights thrilling episode of "FARCEBOOK" An everyday story of incompetent people.

At 2105 hrs this evening Farcebook's ever vigilant watchdogs had a sudden rush of undirected energy to the brain, and decided to disable my GENUINE account, on the grounds that I have broken their terms and conditions by impersonating MYSELF.

This must be a shoe in for the Guinness Book of World Records.

However, apart from my own somewhat incandescent response, they have also received a 64 gun broadside from the formidable Richard B, and I confidently expect that my account will be reinstated within three months (based on previous responses).

Don T.

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Sue Allan
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 06:45 PM

Incroyable Don! Am certain that Super Bridge will succeed though ... good luck!

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Peace
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 07:09 PM

Well, I posted to another thread that I have the address of a person who has been helping the BNP supporters to do this shit. If it doesn't stop by tomorrow and all the crap gone, I will publish his real name, address, and his Mudcat name.

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 08:31 PM

Appears that the me FB me has vanished...

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Peace
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 10:02 PM

Facebook could fuck-up a one-car funeral.

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 10:04 PM

The BNP twerp who is doing it continues to pop up some new clones every so often.

His latest game is a fake mudcat facebook group - here

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000128680678#/pages/Mudcat/63332322845

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Peace
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 10:11 PM

Likely we'll hear about freedom of speech, how the BNP cocksuckers should be treated almost as if they're human, that they should be 'reasoned' with, etc.

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Peace
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 11:28 PM

"The BNP twerp who is doing it continues to pop up some new clones every so often."

I refer to him as the organ grinder.

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: olddude
Date: 13 Aug 09 - 12:02 AM

Bruce
I removed all comments from youtube, missed that one
thanks for pointing it out to me

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Peace
Date: 13 Aug 09 - 12:34 AM

Thanks, Dan. Watch your back, huh?

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: olddude
Date: 13 Aug 09 - 10:05 AM

Jeri
is that really you on facebook or did they steal your identity also?

Dan

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 13 Aug 09 - 02:17 PM

The Sam Hudson associated with so many of the fake profiles has a shit load of photos of Kent folk friends in her photo albums, with unkind comments attached.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000128680678

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Jeri
Date: 13 Aug 09 - 02:26 PM

WTF? You working for them Virginia?

If the only thing this jerk wants is to piss people off, you're his tool.

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 13 Aug 09 - 02:26 PM

I sent a polite request to Sam as follows:

Please remove the Chris and Tam photo from you folk friends album.

I have copied this request and am emailing it to facebook privacy admin and facebook lawyers.



Ummm maybe off topic, maybe not. Has anyone noticed that guest gargolye has not posted for a month today? Well at least not as guest gargoyle.

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 13 Aug 09 - 02:38 PM

Jeri

I have done no more than let Mudcatters know which profile is disproportionately connected to the fake profiles
and
what to do to request the removal of their photos
and
in printscreening my request to Sam for the email I sent to facebook admin, perhaps helping them find, remove and block the culprit(s).

I neither said nor did anything abusive to this person in making this request and copying my request to the people who can do most about it.

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 13 Aug 09 - 07:26 PM

Tentatively, it seems that ALL of the BNP clones have gone (for now) from Fakebook and with them Sam Hudson's shit-stirring photo-albums.

We now ALL need to demand that Fakebook restore the Don J Thompson profile that they deleted - er - because Don was Don. Not that I have not wished to do likewise from time to time, but that is not the point.

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Jeri
Date: 13 Aug 09 - 07:45 PM

Virginia, I'm sorry. I was unduly honked off. I thought what you did made sure the targets got as mad as they were expected to and I didn't consider anything else.

There's still a fake Bruce at the fake Mudcat group, but it doesn't include a stolen picture.

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Jeri
Date: 13 Aug 09 - 07:52 PM

And I'm sorry, but I can't help thinking how funny it is, in an exquisitely stupid way, that the British N.P. start up a fake American based group and become fans. Sort of seems they don't want to be British. Of course the fact they're so obsessed with the real Mudcat sends the same message.

Might make one think the purpose isn't so much to up the BNP as it is to plague Mudcat. Well, I guess the guy's pretty upset after getting countered by Wikipedia admins.

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: jeddy
Date: 13 Aug 09 - 08:09 PM

i and a few others think it maynot be a BNP supporter, but someone who has been shot down on mudcat and is just playing games.

whoever it is and for whatever reason. this person is going to alot of effort.

you have to admire the ability to keep their concentration! i mean if i had that sort of stubborness, i would be impossible! lol

goodnight all

sweet dreams

jade x x x

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Jeri
Date: 13 Aug 09 - 08:34 PM

I'm sure it's a BNP supporter, but I don't think that's their main thing. The turkey's been around for over a year with successive memberships and probably a long time before that. One troll ID ceases, another takes over.

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 13 Aug 09 - 09:05 PM

Looks like I was right and Max wrong, the "mudcat" I linked to above is probably not a real band discovered by the (since deleted) BNP twerp Sam Hudson, in that all of a sudden a number of his friends' friends have appeared there, as friends of Helen Butcher (who was a consistent friend of Sam Hudson and his BNP clones).

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 14 Aug 09 - 02:39 AM

Helen Butcher has only info including friends with real and fake profiles. One of which is still the R Hoff B with your pic Richard. I have reported it on facebook report function.

How do we niggle the FB admin into putting the real Don T back up?

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 14 Aug 09 - 02:51 AM

I write to "[e-mail]"

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 14 Aug 09 - 02:15 PM

Relax folks!

One of them woke up, found he had nothing much to do, and took the time to reinstate my Profile.

No apology, just a curt explanation of the hoops I must jump through to get the RIGHT people zapped.

Been having a look round and there doesn't seem to be much left (that I can access, at least).

Seems OK.........till next time.

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Matt_R
Date: 14 Aug 09 - 04:00 PM

Only Mudcatters could get into this much drama just by joining Facebook.

Either way,

http://www.facebook.com/matt.richards

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 14 Aug 09 - 11:01 PM

Well, there are still a fake Bruce and two fakes of me, but presumably most of the grunts are in their Derbyshire field, listening to benevolent speeches from those of their friends who got past immigration. Hope it pisses with rain on them.

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 15 Aug 09 - 08:47 AM

""I sincerely apologize for the inconvenience you have experienced. Your account was disabled in error. Your account has been reactivated and you will now be able to log in. Also, we would like to investigate this potential abuse on Facebook further. Please provide the following information:

-Web address (URL) to the page containing the offending content
-Brief description of its context and nature
-Exact quote of the offensive text including time and date posted (if applicable)
-Exact name and networks of the person responsible
-Web address (URL) to their profile page or search listing

Once we receive this information and can locate the reported material, we will review it and take appropriate action based on our Statement of Rights and Responsibilities. Rest assured that this report will be kept confidential.

Thanks for contacting Facebook,

Lauren
User Operations
Facebook""

Received this morning.

I went trawling for fakes and found only one, on the ubiquitous Helen Butcher's page. Richard Hoff Bridge is still alive and well, and stating his intention to visit Codnor.

I'm afraid that there won't be any point in looking for an opportunity to shake him warmly by the THROAT, because he doesn't actually exist.

I've reported the fake to Facebook.

AGAIN!
Don T.

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: GUEST,Dave D
Date: 15 Aug 09 - 08:59 AM

Don, Bruce was to name the person doing this last Thursday.

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Jeri
Date: 15 Aug 09 - 09:44 AM

I think he managed some clues over on the 'So why...' thread, and then, there's this.

Personally, I think there are always assholes and nazies and sad people who can't leave their houses for whatever reason and live on the internet, getting their kicks out of making other people miserable. Can't make all of them disappear, but imagining such a person sure makes them seem about as annoying as a rash. At least on the internet.

'Dave D' - just a bit too close, no?.

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 Aug 09 - 02:56 PM

Don, before I went out this morning I emailed you a copy of my last email to Fakebook. It lists three fakes (two of me and one of you), the fake mudcat and teh semeingly involved Helen Butcher.

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 Aug 09 - 02:57 PM

My Bad: two of me and one of Peace.

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 Aug 09 - 03:13 PM

Oh look. Now there's another one of Don, too

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Mudcat/63332322845?ref=search&sid=100000030715028.3787532406..1#/profile.php?id=100000158945302&re

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Peace
Date: 15 Aug 09 - 04:22 PM

"BNP

Saturday, 11 July 2009

Loud and Proud? More like ashamed

It seems that the BNP members are ashamed of themselves. Party leader Nick Griffin sent around an email telling members to "try and avoid" owning up to being a BNP supporter. Griffin urges members to send letters of complaint to the General Teaching Council as two BNP "super activists" face being struck off the teaching register.

In the email Griffin states:
"We need all our supporters to contact the General Teaching Council and protest in the most determined way,"

"When complaining, please be articulate, polite and sensible and try and avoid stating that you are a BNP supporter."

Come on Nick aren't you loud and proud of your beliefs?"

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Peace
Date: 15 Aug 09 - 04:24 PM

That was written by Aneurin Glyndwr.

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Matt_R
Date: 15 Aug 09 - 04:41 PM

What is BNP? And is this "Sam Hudson" trying to friend me some sort of fake as well?

Subject: RE: Catters on Facebook
From: Peace
Date: 15 Aug 09 - 05:21 PM

Very likely.