BS: Dreams that Stayed With You

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Bee
Date: 01 Jul 08 - 09:39 AM

Liz TS, I have 'being chased' dreams whenever I'm very anxious or distressed, so you may be right. The first of those I remember was when I was in hospital with pneumonia and kidney infection at the age of four. I dreamed a giant toothy chipmunk with a crazed grin on its face was chasing me through the hospital wards and halls, and every door I opened to try to run through had a brick wall behind it. Woke in hysterics, and a kind nurse had to cuddle me back to sleep.

Those chipmunks, you can't trust 'em!

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: GUEST,LTS pretending to work
Date: 01 Jul 08 - 08:51 AM

Mmmmmmm juicy youth..... mmmmmmmm


I had the 'being chased around the house' dream again last night... quite disturbing as the last time I had it, I was in hospital. Maybe this has been triggered by news of a possible significant health issue that's getting explored this week.

Maybe it was just a coincidence... who knows?

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Bee
Date: 30 Jun 08 - 06:21 PM

Why, thank you, Amos. I've noticed through my life that my personal unconscious has little finesse, but advances with a clue-club right off the bat. There's little difficulty in interpretation.

That man, and my real and dream interactions with him, were the closest I've ever come to believing there is something other than meat-space. He was a thorough ne'er-do-well, a genius, and a lost soul if there ever was such a thing. He fascinated (and repelled at the same time) everyone who ever met him, and he looked (and sometimes acted) like Rasputin. The resemblance was frequently remarked on.

Woah... colourful tapestry of our juicy youth, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Amos
Date: 30 Jun 08 - 06:00 PM

Aw, Bee, that is awesome!! What a fine tale, a rich dream, and I think, a heroic act on your part to stick to your guns and not be bamboozled just because he was shmoozing you spiritually instead of in meat-space!! :D Awesome, and well told!


A

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Bee
Date: 30 Jun 08 - 04:26 PM

I agree, Amos. I'm glad I started it (preens briefly, notices how raggedy feathers are getting, desists...).

There are so many common themes in our dreams, as well - floating or flying, houses, architecture, monsters and landscapes, the dead and the dying.

And myths! Long ago, in real life, I had a Loathesome Lover. I've long since forgiven him and recognized why he was loathesome, and admitted his incipient good qualities and my own foolish youth, but at the time he was a trauma that took a good deal of getting over. Well, several years after we parted, he wrote me a perfectly friendly letter from the other side of the continent that was a combined apology for previous jerkishness and a hopeful description of his own attempts to become a responsible person. I was pleased for him. Several weeks later, he was killed in an accident.

Well! For months I had dreams about him, in all of which he was demanding my attention in increasingly freakish and sometimes frightening ways, and in all of which I refused in great anxiety to acknowledge him, speak to him, or even look at him.

One night I dreamed I was in the great room of a huge stone castle or hall. A long wood table stood at one end, heaped with dishes of food, baskets of breads, rich looking platters and casseroles and tureens, bottles of wine, candles galore, and glorious decorative groupings of flowers and vegetables. Around the table sat a couple dozen women, all of whom I knew to be my friends, although none of them resembled any of my real life friends. The atmosphere was warm and pleasant, and I sat down to join the feast and the pleasant conversation. After a time, one woman turned to me and said, "Do you know G____ is buried in this building?"

I rose from the table, remembering that in some churches, tombs are indeed under the floor, and sure enough, there were slabs on the floor at the end away from the table with names and dates on them. Shortly I found G____'s stone. I returned to the table, grabbed a string of garlic fists from a centrepiece, and with grim determination began twisting off cloves and stuffing them down in the cracks around the stone slab. But then I looked up, and there sat G____, at his ease on a stone pedestal and smirking. "I only want to talk to you." he said. And I replied, "But I don't want to talk to you!"

And with that, he disappeared with a flash and a bang, which woke me. Since then, I have only seen him as a rare background extra; a field worker, a sailor on a ship, a man in a crowd, and he catches my eye, smiles then turns back to his labours.

Now that's a dream that's as vivid as the night it was dreamed, twenty-seven years ago.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Amos
Date: 30 Jun 08 - 11:57 AM

This thread is one of the most interesting we have had in a long time, because it ahows the goings-on just on the other side of the great boundary between the soul and the commonly-held universe of spacetime.

On this side, we all know the trials and dramas that go on. But just over that usually impenetrable divider, there is an amazing richness of stories, magic, wild vistas, impossible beasts, powers beyond limit, unheard of architectures and mythic acts, happening every day. It is almost absurd that we get to see into it so rarely!


A

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 30 Jun 08 - 05:38 AM

A recycled Californicator? Oo-er missus!

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Amos
Date: 29 Jun 08 - 06:42 PM

Sounds like you're a reincarnated Californian, Liz. Not to imply a gold-digger, but maybe a dancer or dam-builder! :D



A

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: ClaireBear
Date: 29 Jun 08 - 06:14 PM

Maybe it's Armando.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 29 Jun 08 - 05:35 PM

I've always been able to drive in my dreams, even before I was old enough to learn.... and I have this reccurring dream of driving down a long straight road, that has mountains at the end, but is in an arrid desert area. There are odd stunted bushes off the road, the road is tarmac and dead straight, and I'm driving right down the middle, in an open topped car with no idea of my destination or where I've come from.

I've never reached those mountains yet.

As for the consecutive one that I'm in at the moment, (I dreamt I went to Las Vegas, got married in a typical Vegas 'quickie drive-thru' ceremony, to a blonde guy 16 years my junior and 14 inches taller than me.... The judge who married us was called Murray but I can't remember the name of the lanky streak of wossname that I married!) - I want to say his name is Amanda, but that's a stupid name for a bloke.

Oh well.... hopefully tonight it will progress... or finish.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Ebbie
Date: 29 Jun 08 - 01:04 AM

That's interesting, Alice. I too had dreams when I was little that included images that I had never seen. Being Amish, I had never seen anyone dance, for instance, but I once watched a large group of danceers glide about. And there was music, the equivalent of a big band. That too I had never experienced.

On a different note I remember the time I tried to float down our winding driveway because I "had done it before". I couldn't get both legs off the ground at the same time. Oh, the frustration!

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Alice
Date: 29 Jun 08 - 12:41 AM

One of my earliest memories is a recurring dream I had when I was a toddler. I know I was aged 2 to 4 because of the house we lived in at the time. Don't know if this was a dream or an image I saw in my mind.

When I woke up in the morning, before I opened my eyes, I would have a smell and taste along with the image of a woman's oval, pale face, Asian features (this was before I was 5, we didn't have tv, I'd never seen an Asian person before).
As I saw this woman's face looking at me, it would slowly age from a young woman to an old face, very wrinkled. Then I'd open my eyes, scared, and tasting and smelling the odd taste and smell. I was too young to explain this to anyone. It scared me.

Alice

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Alice
Date: 29 Jun 08 - 12:33 AM

I have a recurring dream that is a very common dream/nightmare that people have. Recently I shared with my son that I've had this dream for years, and he said, "MOM! I have that nightmare, too!"

It is final exam week. I'm in college, and suddenly realize there is a class I'm enrolled in that I have not gone to all semester. It is too late to drop out of the class and I have not done anything for the class or even shown up all semester, hence will FAIL! Horrors!

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Janie
Date: 29 Jun 08 - 12:24 AM

Ohmygawd, Ebbie!

Not that dream!

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Ebbie
Date: 29 Jun 08 - 12:10 AM

Last night I dreamt that I overheard Teddy Kennedy (yes, that Kennedy) proudly tell someone that he had lost 165 pounds. "The size of another man".

! Why? Why?

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Lyrical Lady
Date: 28 Jun 08 - 12:27 AM

For as long as I can remember,I've dreamed about Bears. Whom ever I happen to be involved with at the time, morphs into a bear and chases me. I run and run until I get away. After having such dreams the relationships have always ended.   I figure it's a built in security system. I also have dreams about there being "another" room in the house that I haven't discovered yet and when I finally find it, I wake up, so I've never seen what it looks like.
B

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: GUEST,ana
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 04:36 AM

QK - never been religious, and use to enjoy a normal guilt free omnivore diet.

Dream arrived with me; I was with two 'beings' - one seemed quite insubstantial and cloudlike, the other was more present and seemed to have the role of a helper to the first. I was invited to eat, and feeling quite daunted by their presence tried to be compliant. The helper was directed to a corpse nearby, and I realised then that it was the body of the first being. The helper cut a slither of meat and morsel of liver which I was then offered. I was being very respectful and didn't think it appropriate to refuse. I took the liver thinking maybe I could pretend it was pate. It was putrid however, and the taste meant I have not touched red meat or pate since (some 15 years).

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Janie
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 01:42 AM

As hope waned that conventional radiation or chemotherapy might put my sister into remission, or at least slow down the rapid spread of metastatic breast cancer, I had a brief but extremely vivid dream. I saw a small car, identical to mine, wrecked in the median of a freeway. I didn't see the wreck itself occur, but saw the driver's door spring open from the force of the single car wreck, and a body fly out, bounce once, and then lie on the ground, as limp as a rag doll, and clearly dead. In the dream, I was trying to force myself to approach, but was nearly paralyzed by fear. Just before I was close enough to clearly see who it might be, I awoke, feeling very disturbed, and had difficulty shaking the dream off. I assumed the dream represented my fear of my sister dying.

Over the next few weeks, I had several vivid flashbacks of the dream - sometimes while fully awake, and sometimes in that early morning period when you are not fully asleep, but not fully awake, and dreams have a hallucinogenic quality to them.

I decided to process the dream through light trance work with the therapist with whom I was working, Kit. With her guidance and support, I was finally able to approach the body, and see it was not a body at all. It was a life-sized Raggedy Ann doll, except the the face was featureless muslin, with no eyes, nose or mouth stitched on. Kit suggested I ask the rag doll if it had something to say to me. No answer. I was bumfuzzled, and for a little while, so was Kit. Then she suggested the rag doll might be a mask, and suggested I ask anyone who might be behind the rag doll to come from behind the mask and speak.
I remember that when my sister stepped out from behind the rag doll, I burst into tears, still believing the dream was primarily about my fears for her.

My sister began to speak with calm intensity. In essence, she told me that she needed me to face my fear of my own death, and to quit trying to hide behind her, it was too much of a burden.

That insight changed the way I related to my sister and allowed me to be much more present and supportive of her during her last few months of life.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: GUEST,dianavan
Date: 26 Jun 08 - 02:12 PM

I used to dream (quite often) about a wolf wearing a three-piece suit. What was really scary was that my brother had the same dream. Now that my brother and I live thousands of miles away from each other, the dream has stopped.

My newest re-curring dream is about a place built of large granite blocks. Its a street front with little shops. I go through a door on the street, up the stairs to the place where I live. My home looks humble from the street but once inside, it opens into a vast space with many rooms and elegant furnishings.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Amos
Date: 26 Jun 08 - 10:41 AM

Last night I dreamt I went to Las Vegas, got married in a typical Vegas 'quickie drive-thru' ceremony, to a blonde guy 16 years my junior and 14 inches taller than me.... just so I could proof-read his new book about the Nevada desert.   

Some people will do just about anything for a good proof-reading job, I suppose... :D


A

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: GUEST,LTS pretending to work
Date: 26 Jun 08 - 07:19 AM

"I figure if my subconscious ever needs to get a message through to me, it has my address" - I like that... mine doesn't even seem to know what country I'm in.

Last night I dreamt I went to Las Vegas, got married in a typical Vegas 'quickie drive-thru' ceremony, to a blonde guy 16 years my junior and 14 inches taller than me.... just so I could proof-read his new book about the Nevada desert.   The judge who married us was called Murray but I can't remember the name of the lanky streak of wossname that I married!

I think I've reached that 'certain age'....

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Janie
Date: 25 Jun 08 - 10:00 PM

For several weeks after I first learned to dive, I had vivid, nightly dreams of diving - the leap, the sensation of weightless soaring and then the smooth swoop down into the water.

We used to occasionally ride the horses down into a pond up in the hills behind the house. It was just deep enough that they dropped their haunches and basically hopped across the pond on their hind legs, in long, smooth leaps that left us feeling weightless from the top of the arc through the smooth descent. I'd often dream about that for a few days afterward.

Somewhere along about age 11, I had a terrible crush on "Little Joe Cartwright", along with nearly every other 11 year old girl in America. It was at the same age I was becoming horse-crazy. I often dreamed that Little Joe would ride up to the front porch on his pretty little pinto, dismount, and offer the horse to me to take for a gallop.

That one ain't hard to interpret;>)

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 25 Jun 08 - 08:50 PM

When I was five or six years old, "The Roy Rogers Show" was a staple of Saturday morning TV. One night I dreamed that Pat Brady, Roy's Jeep driving sidekick on the program, was driving his Jeep down a dirt road when he came upon an old woman sitting at a spinning wheel. As he talked with her, her eyes and mouth transformed themselves into triangles, then squares, then back to triangles again. It would be funny now, but it was terrifying for a kid.

Much later, when I was still married to my first wife, we both overslept by about fifteen minutes because we were both dreaming that the sound of our new alarm clock was the sound of an alien spaceship. I wouldn't go so far as to say we were having the same dream, but we both incorporated the alarm's sound into our dreams and both interpreted it as the sound of a spaceship.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: ClaireBear
Date: 25 Jun 08 - 07:56 PM

I have episodic, recurring theme dreams as well, Liz.

In such one series of dreams spread out over several mights, I had my first interview, second interview, and first day on the job as a waitress in a restaurant (something I have never done in real life).

I often return to the scene of a dream I last had weeks or even months before.

As a child, I lived (as I do now again) on a long, one-lane, dead-end canyon road in the summer-dry Santa Cruz Mountains of central California. Of course, I spent several months of every year terrified of fire (I.m now reliving that, too). During that time, I often dreamed that an automobile passed me, up the road into our canyon, dripping little gobbets of fire from its tailpipe. I would race along behind the car, trying to keep up with the impossible task of putting the fires out. I haven't started having this dream again, but it wouldn't surprise me.

As a child, I also often dreamt of being in a darkened room full of incredibly beautiful, lit-from-within, multicolored gems of various shapes and sizes that were floating,twirling and whizzing by my face, their sharp faceted edges mking it plain how lethal they could be. It was always captivating and utterly terrifying. I have no idea where that image might have come from.

Claire

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Jun 08 - 06:59 PM

Several years ago I dreamed that I was wearing a white robe and had a guard on each side of me. There was a door in front of me, and I knew that when I went through the door I would be hanged by the neck until dead.

I just stood there, didn't go through the door, just sort of hung around with the guards.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Jun 08 - 06:30 PM

Speaking of houses and buildings, I have had frequent dreams of a certain large apartment houss. At this point I have lived in just about every one of the apartments- something I don't realize until close to the end of the dream.

That particular dream building seems fairly easily interpreted as being facets of oneself.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: semi-submersible
Date: 25 Jun 08 - 03:30 PM

What a wonderful dream!
Recurring cream,
Cream that's setting...
Look forward to getting
Yoghurt and cheese
And puddings, please!

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Mrrzy
Date: 25 Jun 08 - 09:01 AM

I don't so much have recurring dreams as recurring cream SETTINGS. In many dreams, I end up in a particular place that doesn't exist with the feeling of Oh, so THAT's where this is!

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: RangerSteve
Date: 25 Jun 08 - 07:30 AM

I have dreams where I'm trying to use a telephone, it's always a pay phone; I keep dropping the coins while I'm trying to put them in the coin slot. Then my finger keeps slippin out of the dial - it's always a dial phone, although I haven't had one of those in decades. I also can't walk across large open areas, such as gymnasiums or open fields. I keep falling down. I can't walk up stairs without falling down, either.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: topical tom
Date: 25 Jun 08 - 05:48 AM

When I was much younger I used to have a recurring dream. I would be standing in a country field and a pickup truck would come by and catch me up on its running board as it went by.I would then plunge over a cliff on the truck and fall but I would wake up before landing.
   As a career I taught school for 34 years and in that time I was almost never late for class, yet I would dream of being late for class and never being able to find it. I would imagine the students wreaking havoc as they waited for me to arrive.This dream occurred many times but only after I had retired.I would wake up and think "Thank God, I have no classes any more!"
   One of my worst nightmares was thinking someone was coming into my house while I was sleeping. I could hear him climbing up the stairs but I was powerless to move.Then I would sense a shadowy figure standing in the doorway to my bedroom. At that point, thoroughly terrified, I would wake up.
   I used to dream of driving a car before I ever owned one and I would awake greatly disappointed.Disappointment also ensued when I would dream that I could fly as a bird.
   Well, I've rambled on much too long. I wish sweet dreams to all.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: semi-submersible
Date: 25 Jun 08 - 04:49 AM

Talking and laughing with my husband about having held his funeral, filling him in on news from the months since, all the while feeling combined relief that [in this dream] his supposed death had been all a mistake, and worry about how to straighten out this mistake since we'd told everyone he'd died.
Then of course I had to wake up...


Previous posters:
"dreams about people that were so 'real', I almost called them to check on them"
"a little scrap of dream, so simple, vivid and naturalistic that it registered as an actual memory"

In my teens or early twenties I became interested in accessing the "wisdom of dreams," and by practicing bedtime affirmations (e.g. "Tonight I will dream, and when I wake I will remember my dreams") and keeping pencil and paper beside me, I managed after some months to start carrying memories of dreams through into waking.

I found them interesting, and puzzling, though the "inspirations" I accessed didn't seem helpful. A fascinating plan or invention seen in a dream doesn't necessarily work in the physical world, I found. Worse yet were the normal-seeming dream-memories that had no basis in fact. I recalled that a relative had died... that my brother had told me such-and-such... that a certain event was (or was not) happening this Saturday...

In the end I decided it wasn't worth the confusion. There's a reason most of our dreams are kept behind a memory barrier: it's simpler to keep track of the real world this way. I stopped the affirmations, and gradually ceased remembering dreams (unless I'm wakened suddenly from them). I figure if my subconscious ever needs to get a message through to me, it has my address.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 25 Jun 08 - 03:30 AM

Amos says: I have no idea why, of all my sometimes very vivid dreams of childhood, this one has stuck in memory

Easy answer: It was about peanut butter that stuck to you.

My only persistent and memorable dream was while I was in high school, and had a recurring one in which I had fallen down and couldn't get up because my knees wouldn't work. (They made a TV commercial about it a few years ago?)

Explanation is quite simple: During track season workouts were quarter mile sprints separated by jogging for a cumulative 6 to 10 miles per day, and during cross country season the workouts pushed toward 20+ miles per day, both seasons 6 days a week.

My knees hurt (although not seriously), especially when I slept and didn't keep them moving.

It took nearly a year after I graduated and quit track for this particular dream to disappear completely. While there were minor variants to the "surrounding circumstances" in the dreams, I don't recall any in which there was anything threatening - just the "personal failure" implication. And I always woke up with a stiff - - - knee.

John

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 25 Jun 08 - 02:46 AM

Try this for size...Chorus is 'Dreams they'll let you down, they'll let you down, but they'll never leave you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQgntvK9pN0&feature=related

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: CarolC
Date: 25 Jun 08 - 01:28 AM

I definitely have dreams that tell me things I need to know. Sometimes I have dreams that tell me things my son needs to know (and he confirms this for me after I tell him the dream). But many of my dreams are not that kind, and I can definitely tell the difference. Of course, I tend to think that when someone has a dream about another incarnation, it's probably because they need to know whatever it is they're remembering in the dream.

I should also say at this point that I was not exposed to any WWII movies when I was as young as 4 or 5 years old. The first time I ever saw any war movies was when I was about 7 years old, and those were not serious movies, but more lighthearted ones and comedies. I think the first serious war movie I ever saw was when I was 9 or 10, or possibly older.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Bee
Date: 25 Jun 08 - 01:17 AM

I think dreams may serve multiple purposes. Partly, as I understand it, they are a by-product of the brain sorting memories, and possibly discarding detail, or extraneous data, which no doubt influences the bizarre juxtapositions we see in dreams. But I also think they are sometimes a window into what is going on in our lives. The images in our dreams are composed of images we already have stored somewhere in memory; however strange, there's nothing in a dream which isn't already in our brain.

Tarot cards appear, uncannily at times, to work because in essence, the multiple symbols on each card automate cold reading for the reader. A superstition around Tarot is that you should not try to read your own cards. I think there is a little bit of reason there, because you will certainly be best at cold reading yourself.

Some dreams, IMO, act as a Tarot deck, and are all the more powerful because the symbols dreams contain are all our own - on some level we understand their personal significance. So when something significant is happening in our lives, even if we are not yet consciously aware of it, we may read the symbols contained in a remembered dream and come to a conclusion that subsequently proves true. I don't think the dream itself is prophetic, or that the unconscious mind communicates directly through dream imagery, but that information is already there, and we choose which dream images will suit our meaning. This can be very beneficial sometimes, I believe - it has been for me.

Here is someone else's dream, that maybe illustrates the above. This woman's young teenage daughter became ill, and after a couple days, the mother took her to a doctor, who diagnosed a common flu. The daughter became more ill. The mother took her to the emergency clinic at the hospital, and again the diagnosis was flu. The daughter had a collection of symptoms which should have been seen, but weren't. Her belly was distended and hard, her eyes were sunken and dark underneath, her breath was dreadful. But the mother was very trusting of doctors.

That night the mother dreamed that she woke, and on the bed was a mummified leg. In horror she ran through her house, finding desiccated body parts in every room, and the scent of carrion was everywhere.

When she really woke, she took her daughter back to the hospital, and refused to leave. By then, the daughter's symptoms were very obvious - she had a ruptured appendix and was dying of peritonitis and dehydration. A very good surgeon saved the girl, and the mother credits the dream to God's warning. I think she saw and on some level understood her daughter's symptoms, and plucked the dream images to remember which were in agreement with her knowledge.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: CarolC
Date: 25 Jun 08 - 01:05 AM

I definitely think the first one I described was a past life dream. I really don't know how I could have possibly known that such a scenario could ever take place, anywhere, for any reason at the age I was when I had the dream.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Janie
Date: 25 Jun 08 - 12:53 AM

I rarely remember dreams, and the dreams I remember rarely stay with me. The very few that do stick have proven rich in insight on further analysis/interpretation.

When I was a child and and World War II was still fresh on people's minds and many war movies were produced and shown on television, I would have recurrent nightmares of Nazis invading the neighborhood and my futile efforts to simultaneously hide and warn my family and neighbors.

Mom and Dad finally figured out I aught not be exposed to war movies.

To this day, I am as likely as not to have nighmares after watching war movies.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Jun 08 - 12:47 AM

Wow. The first one has pretty well got to be a past life scene, Carol.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: CarolC
Date: 25 Jun 08 - 12:40 AM

I have recurring theme dreams that involve houses and other dwellings.

The first dream I remember was from when I was around 4 or 5 years old. There was a crowd of people and we were standing on the ground while some of us were being loaded in to a large truck with wooden slats on the sides (like a livestock truck). This truck looked like it was made in the late 1930s or early 1940s. All of the clothing and hair on the people looked like it was from the 1940s. My mother (not my actual mother in the waking state, but in the dream, this person was my mother) was one of the people being loaded into the truck. I was very bewildered and couldn't understand why she would be getting into that truck and leaving me. It was very distressing. Upon looking back and remembering the dream, however, it is clear to me that she didn't really have any choice. People were being loaded into the truck whether they wanted to be or not. The last thing I remember from that dream is watching my mother waving to me as the truck drives away.

Probably my favorite one to remember was standing somewhere and looking up at the sky, and seeing an enormous planet that took up about half the sky, hovering not too far above the earth. It was breathtakingly beautiful.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Jun 08 - 11:52 PM

I've also dreamt about being on a sinking ship, and I've been scared of deep water all my life. I think there are past life connections in regards to that fear.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: katlaughing
Date: 24 Jun 08 - 11:46 PM

If it was on Halloween, it might be that they could see you because they feared retribution...something I just read said that was what folks believed could happen on that night...anyone they'd wronged could come back and punish them!

I have one which is infrequent but always the same. It is not very distinct..hard to describe but something about a beautiful, unusual, quirky house we are looking at, I think to buy. I really love it and am intrigued by it, but not sure of it. Then I am beside the wall of a house, not sure if it is the same one...could be, the path is closed in by lots of vegetation and there is an exotic type woman, leaning out of a window, I think, who I am SURE should NOT know my Rog, but she is warning me about something about him...it's been awhile since I've dreamt this, but I am sure she represented some kind of danger to him...mostly in separating him from me. Curiously, I don't think I've had this since heart surgery.

Kendall, that's the way I'd take it. Have you ever done any past life regressions? It can be quite interesting and enlightening, imo.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Jun 08 - 11:26 PM

I remember a great many dreams. Here's one that was quite interesting, because I died in it...


I found myself being held prisoner in this dream by a couple of criminals who were taking my somewhere in a pickup truck. One was driving, I was in the passenger seat, the other guy was in the back seat holding a gun on me.

It seemed to me that these guys intended to kill me....for what, I didn't know...but I was intent on escaping before they did so.

They pulled off the road into a field near a barn, and as the truck slowed down I threw open the passenger door and made a run for it. They both jumped out of the truck and started firing shots as I was running away...and I suddenly felt a shock as a bullet struck my back. I found myself falling...

Then I could actually see myself falling, as if I were a disembodied presence up and to the rear of my body, and I saw my body sprawled lifeless on the ground. I realized that my body was "dead", but I definitely wasn't. I was a spirit, and I could fly or hover as I desired.

I turned around to take a look at the scumbags who had just murdered me, and for some reason they could see me at that moment, and they knew I was a "ghost", and they became terrified.

Realizing that they could do nothing to me now, I took delight in chasing these guys all over the place and scaring the hell out of them. They didn't try shooting at me, they just kept running in a panic. It was a delicious feeling of freedom and power that I had at that moment.

And that was the extent of the dream. It confirmed something for me that I have always expected which is: you don't really die when you "die". You just depart the body.

But why those guys could see me when I was a spirit...that I don't know. People, as far as I know, usually cannot see spirits at all. Dogs or cats, however, seem to see them without difficulty.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Amos
Date: 24 Jun 08 - 09:49 PM

Yeah. Annette. Her and Jimmy Dodd. He died of an overdose.

"In 1955, the 12-year-old was discovered by Walt Disney as she performed as the Swan Queen in Swan Lake at a dance recital in Burbank, California. On the basis of this appearance, Disney cast her as one of the original "Mouseketeers". She was the last to be selected, and the only one picked by Walt Disney. She soon proved to be very popular. By the end of the first season of Mickey Mouse Club, she was receiving 6,000 letters a month, according to her Disney Legends biography."

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....What a vision of fine and fancy stuff she and Jimmy and Doreen and the rest made. A dream, indeed. Tinkerbells, beach blankets, the endless starry hopefulness of un-scarred youth in Smallville.

Oddly enough, I never forgave Disney for his celluloid saccharine bubble. Probably wrongly (being young and hot-headed at the time) I blamed him for adulterating the hearts of America with dopey substitute realities and cellulose barf.

But I was so much older, then. I'm younger than that, now.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Jeri
Date: 24 Jun 08 - 09:35 PM

I generally don't remember dreams. Not unless they're extremely remarkable and I wake up during them.

The first dream I remember was a nightmare. There was a dinosaur on the front lawn, and I was terrified it was going to stick its head through my second floor bedroom window and eat me.

Then there was the alien zombie cat nightmare. I can't remember that much except instead of fur, they had spikey things like a bush has, only glass. I don't know what would have happened if they'd caught up with us, but they walked around in a zombie cat fashion and uttered 'meow' at appropriate intervals. They walked, I ran away. At one point, after my family had hidden successfully, they were all gone. We went outside and our pet cat Boots came up to us, sprouted glass spikes and uttered 'meow'. We were all up on the propane tank when I woke up.
...and then I heard 'meow', and freaked out temporarily before realizing the cat probably just wanted to go out.

Later, I was into lucid dreaming. Some guys were chasing me. I was going down a beautiful river somewhere in the wilderness and I thought, 'The book says if I'm running from something I'm scared of, I should turn around and face it. I don't really feel scared though, so the hell with it.' I happily continued on down the river. This has pretty much been how my life has gone-- meandering down a river, not going anywhere in particular but enjoying the journey.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Peace
Date: 24 Jun 08 - 08:38 PM

Here's why!

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Peace
Date: 24 Jun 08 - 08:27 PM

Annette Funicello.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Amos
Date: 24 Jun 08 - 08:07 PM

KEndall:

Ayeh, sounds purdy likely to be the right reason, in my view.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: frogprince
Date: 24 Jun 08 - 07:59 PM

Another from the distant past: sitting in a bathtub with Ursala Andress. I think I had just seen "What's New, Pussycat".

A couple of years or so ago, I got down by our antique round oak kitchen table to pick up something, and realized that one of the four feet of the table has been replaced with one that isn't an exact match. Later (perhaps a few weeks after) I thought about it again, and took another look. I think I blinked a little when I found all the feet to be identical. Then the little light bulb clicked on: my notice of the discrepancy was a little scrap of dream, so simple, vivid and naturalistic that it registered as an actual memory.+

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: kendall
Date: 24 Jun 08 - 07:19 PM

Why would a small boy dream of being in a sinking ship? Past life memory?

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams that Stayed With You
From: Ebbie
Date: 24 Jun 08 - 06:54 PM

There are a great many dreams that I can bring into memory at will but there is one from a few years ago that leaves me bemused.

I am in a place with four or five other people and I know that when "they" come, I will be killed, no way out of it. The only option I have is to off myself.

To the side is an upright tunnel, made of rubber-like material. I circle it, reluctant to do what I must do. But finally I step up to the level and taking a deep breath I step into the tunnel and whoooosh!. I know that I will be dead but I don't have any idea of what will happen next.

It is dark and then I pop out at the other end, finding myself on a dusty country lane on a hot day. There is sparse grass along the roadway and off in the distance are rolling hills. I start down the slope.

Then alongside the road sitting on a wooden bench is an old man watching me. I look at him as I pass by and he says conversationally, You can still go back, you know.

I shake my head wordlessly, deciding that there would be no point.