'5000 Morris Dancers'

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: s&r
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 01:06 PM

If this thread makes 5000 that's one for each morris dancer

Stu

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: GUEST,Don Firth (computer, etc.)
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 01:07 PM

At which point, this thread will implode into a black hole.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 02:30 PM

"If this thread makes 5000 that's one for each morris dancer" (Stu)...4 years, yet!

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: GUEST,Woody
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 04:02 PM

From: GUEST,Don Firth (computer, etc.)
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 01:07 PM

At which point, this thread will implode into a black hole.

see here

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: GUEST,Don Firth (computer, etc.)
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 04:43 PM

I think the appropriate word is

OOPS!!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: catspaw49
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 06:10 PM

LOL.....This thread already IS a black hole. But its fun watching the racist and bigoted separatist try to defend compete and total bullshit with his "Life's Work."

Spaw

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 04:45 AM

That's false and defamatory, Spaw...and it's noteworthy how - following all the deregulation/laissez faire in financial markets, football competitions, immigration, etc., that was exaggerated in the 90s - people are now talking about regulating/reregulating things, which I've been saying ever since the 90s (here).

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: mandotim
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 05:11 AM

Should indigenous English bands, for whom Reggae is part of their own good English culture, continue to play Reggae?
Straight answer please, no referring to your life's work. Same question goes for English hip-hop bands.
Tim

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 05:50 AM

I'm giving up on WAV. Let's leave him to his dream of a world where Fredland is full of Freddish people doing Freddish things, Bertland is full of Bertish people doing Bertish things, and so on all round the globe. As dreams go, it's quite a pretty one.

But, before anyone mentions John Lennon, I don't say WAV's a dreamer - I say he's a racist. Because he presents this dream - which has never existed and never will do - as how the world should be. And trying to make this dream a reality would involve the use of coercive force on a massive, massive scale: it would involve telling thousands and thousands of people what to do and not to do, where to go and not to go, and getting men in blue uniforms to enforce the message with big sticks. And for what? Why should Mr Bert from Bertland not come to Fredland? Because he's a criminal, because he's unemployable, because he's carrying rabies? No - we don't need to know anything about him as a person. All we know is that he's Bertish, and we believe in conserving our good Freddish culture by keeping Bertish influences out - Fredland for the Freddish.

Anyone who can't see by now that this is a racist way of looking at the world will never see it. I suspect WAV himself is one of them.

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 05:58 AM

But Spaw (with great respect and doffing of caps to a Cat Godfather!!)
Is it that much fun to watch a racist/seperatist/bigot squirm?
Mmmm, probably!

I wouldn't mind so much if he actually answered the many questions put to him?
On Mandotims point re Reggae.
There are plenty of Reggae bands in the UK, that were born here...makes them English IMHO.

Maybe we should co-join this thread with the "Dogs at Festivals" thread.

And retitle the combination as

Should Faux English/Aus Doggerel be allowed at festivals?

Answer, As long as they are kept on a lead or kept in Hot Cars for many hours.

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 06:07 AM

Pip Old bean.
I'd rather live in a pure Ralphieland anyday....
You can keep your pure Pipradishland...

I mean.....The cuisine for starters....
An unrelenting diet of radishes? You're welcome to it!

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 06:19 AM

I did answer that question - saying that, as an Englishman, I've enjoyed listening to reggae but only practise/perform English folk songs and hymns, and may try the songs of English composers in the future.
And here's a question for the above group who keep falsely using the R-word against me...what's your stance on the Rastafarian belief - sung by the likes of Marley in the mainstream CARRIBEAN MEDIUM of reggae, and spoken by the likes of Garvey - in a return to Africa (most have chosen Ethiopia, of course)?

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 06:30 AM

Yes Yes, I shouldn't have gone there, but "Know thine enemy" as the saying goes.

So, this from WAVs website...

"My usual and only complaint with our present English-folk scene is the lack of loyalty to our own good tradition."

So WAV. In words of one syllable, what does that sentence mean exactly?

You've been very up-front in stating that your commitment to English music started in 2004.
So, you must have a huge knowledge of the traditions of the UK....No?

Share your insights with us, Oh Great One....so that we may worship at your fount of your knowledge, which you have spent (4-ish) years in intense contemplation.

No, Please......Not Show Of Hands......Please!!!!

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: mandotim
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 06:44 AM

Music performed by English people, in England, for an English audience; Lyrics referring to English situations and places. English reggae bands fulfil all of these criteria. On what grounds, WAV, would you argue that they are not part of English culture? Will your attempts at the songs of English composers include the likes of Jazzy B? Burning Spear? Aswad?
With respect, you didn't answer the question; implicit in your reply is that your interest is English Folk Song, rather than other aspects of song from England. So I can understand more fully, what is your definition of an English Folk Song? (Rest of the list, get ready for a laugh here...)
Tim

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 07:35 AM

Do I think Bob Marley's views were racist? If he believed that black and white people actually should live separate lives in separate countries, yes, of course I do.

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 08:04 AM

"My usual and only complaint with our present English-folk scene is the lack of loyalty to our own good tradition." (me)
So WAV. In words of one syllable, what does that sentence mean exactly? (Ralphie)...English singing with American accents; performing Irish, and other nations, tunes and songs instead of English ones; not having an English folk degre; low amount of English folk songs and tunes on the very limited folk radio and tv we have here, etc. (use above link). And, Tim, I've also had a go at defining English folk there.

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 09:07 AM

WAV.
Well, As has been said many, many times before. Your version of "English" is not one that anyone else on this thread recognises.
It all sounds more akin to "Aryanism" to me.
Sorry old mate, Hitler lost.
Didn't you read about it?
Oh, and by the way, do you recognise that the Holocaust actually happened?...No??
Now, go away you pathetic little man.
As Spike Milligan once said.
"Ah What a lovely song.....German, German Overalls!"

(With apologies to all German readers, just Irony you know)

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 09:12 AM

Oh and WAV.

Please tell us at which University did you achieve your degree in English Folk Music....Brisbane? Perth? Sydney?

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: mandotim
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 09:32 AM

With respect, WAV, you haven't defined English Folk at all; you just state that you 'sing' it. You assert that it is something that originates in England, and imply that it has some kind of history/heritage. I've asked you before to state clearly what this means, and also to quantify how much heritage is needed before something becomes part of your so-called 'own good culture'. So again; how many years is it before something originated and practised in England becomes 'English' and therefore part of the culture? Also again; what percentage of the population need to do something before it becomes part of the culture of the nation? If you can't answer these points directly, then your whole argument falls due to your inability to define the central concept of 'own good culture'. I look forward to a reply that doesn't refer to your websites; once again, I've read all of the xenophobic drivel contained there, and it categorically does not address these central questions.
Your answer?
Tim

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 09:57 AM

Hi Mandotim.
Absolutely agree with you, (apart from the "with respect" bit!)
More English songs.
Billericay Dickie and Plaistow Patricia....Ian Dury (def Brit)
Waterloo Sunset ...The Kinks (juries out on this one...dubious Napoleonic influences)
Jerusalem......(shurely shome mishtake, isn't that in Palestine?)
My Old Dutch.....(obvious European references here)
Goodness Gracious Me. Peter Sellers......(some asian content going on there methinks)

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: Master Baiter
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 10:13 AM

WALKSABOUTVERSE---I have tried to help out here. I have enjoyed poking some fun at you from time to time but I have also quite clearly stated what you appear to be saying. People like Catspaw don't seem to get it but once again, here we go.

I believe this is what WAV is saying:

I think he's saying that he sees and believes in the value of any culture continuing to carry on past traditions. He also feels that folks deserve the right to a sovereign existence and to hold cultural values within a territorial area characterized by the groups own laws and customs. Wav maintained his cultural values while in Australia but is better back in England. He thinks it could be better yet. It takes but simple logic to see that for a people to survive as a distinct cultural group they must have their own land so that their own ways can be furthered to the exclusion of alternate ways of life within that specific geographic territory. The alternate ways need to exist in their own territories as well.

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: melodeonboy
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 10:16 AM

Oh, dear! I see the "lynch mob" is still going strong on this thread!

Burn the heretic, that's what I say! Or throw him into the lake to see if he floats!

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: mandotim
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 10:18 AM

The 'with respect' bit was ironic, Ralphie...I teach Masters students about the theoretical and historical origins of national and organisational cultures, and I can categorically state that WAV has never attended such a course. Like the list though! Lets add;
Strawberry Fields Forever (too fruity?)
Anarchy in the UK (bit political??)
The Five Bridges (anyone remember the Nice?)
The Rochdale Cowboy (oops; is Mike Harding too American?)
Funky Moped (strong vegetable influences)

There's lots for WAV to learn!
Tim

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 10:22 AM

It takes but simple logic to see that for a people to survive as a distinct cultural group they must have their own land so that their own ways can be furthered to the exclusion of alternate ways of life within that specific geographic territory.

Would you care to give any examples of this simple and straightforward process? I'll give you a few to get started: South Africa, Israel, Croatia, Serbia, Kosovo, Nagorno-Karabakh, South Ossetia...

Come to think of it, would you care to mention the most recent occasion when we in England engaged in the exclusion of alternate ways of life within our specific geographic territory? I can't think of anything much more recent than 1290, but maybe you can enlighten me.

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 10:24 AM

As Spike Milligan once said.
"Ah What a lovely song.....German, German Overalls!"

Wasn't it Michael Flanders of Flanders and Swann fame?

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 10:25 AM

Thanks, but....No thanks.
Whats all this about "Sovereign Existence?" My locality is filled with Poles (Who are very nice, and have introduced all kinds of food that I'd never heard of, and can't pronounce...Yum! And do all the nasty work that the Chavs of Britain refuse to do).
In the East End of London there is a Bangladeshi community(formerly Jewish) whose food is to die for. Which indeed a lot of them did in previous wars. Remember the Ghurkas?
"Distinct Cultural Group".....Please define.... Starting with the Romans. Oh, and the Huns, Jutes, Angles, Saxons, Gauls, Danes, Normans, etc. (BTW did you know that our Queen is German?)

I still ask the question.
Where did WAV get his degree in Englishness from?

Regards Ralphie

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 10:39 AM

Hi melodeon boy.
All WAV has to do is take his head out of the noose!!
Never did agree with hanging, but, If someone insists on going through the process....?

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 10:42 AM

Oh and melodeon boy.
None of us asked him to stick his head in the noose in the first place. He did it all of his own choosing.
And yes GUEST Ed, 'twas indeed Flanders and Swann Apologies for misrepresentation.

All Together Now

The English, The English, The English are best.
I Wouldn't give Tuppence for all of the rest.

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 12:52 PM

I can answer a couple of these questions (re: floating and study) in the one poem cum song (adding only that I completed my BA in Humanities, Ralphie, at Adelaide Uni.); the others I've answered above.

Poem 5 of 230: STATE TO STATE

From Sydney Town,
    In uni. break,
I drove out west
    To earnings make
Onion picking
    On the fields
Of Echuca
    That year's yields.

                                  After day's work,
                                     From Y.H.A.,
                                  A group of us
                                     Would not delay
                                  To walk on down
                                     To the dirt rim
                                  Of the Murray
                                     For a cool swim.

On one such day,
    I do declare,
Some three of us
    Had a big dare
To swim across,
    From state to state,
The wide Murray -
    I took the bait.

                                  Yes, foolishly,
                                     I took the bait -
                                  A choice that I
                                     Would come to hate,
                                  For I almost
                                     Did drown that date,
                                  Making the swim
                                     From state to state.

From walkaboutsverse.741.com

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: s&r
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 02:40 PM

Just a quote from Adelaide's prospectus

Easy Enrolment, No Pre-requisites

Established in 1874, the University of Adelaide is committed to producing graduates recognised worldwide for their creativity, knowledge and skills as well as for their culture and tolerance.

So there you are then

Stu

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: GUEST,Don Firth (I get my computer back next week)
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 02:53 PM

Let me see if I've got this straight. One should not be allowed to sing English folk songs unless one has a degree in English Folk Music? [I wonder where all those people that Cecil J. Sharp and others collected from got their degrees.] And one should not be allowed to sing English folk songs if one has the improper accent—for example, Australian. . . ?

My my my. . . .

Don Firth

P. S. Oh! Another question occurs to me. If a person is from Yorkshire and speaks and sings with a Yorkshire accent, should he or she be allowed to sing songs from Cornwall?

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 02:56 PM

..do you do the twist, Don?!

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: GUEST,Don Firth (computer, etc.)
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 02:59 PM

How about THESE fellows?

Don Firth

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: GUEST,Don Firth (computer, etc.)
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 03:05 PM

Twist? No. What's your point?

Don Firth

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 03:28 PM

Don....
God NO!!!
Cornwall is a foreign country.
No true born Englishmen would dare to sing their songs.
(Doubly true of Muslims, Seikhs, Poles, Indians, Afro-Carribeans etc, etc.)
Woops, my mistake there. Obviously none of the above could possibly be English?......Or am I missing something here?

Oh and WAV a "BA in Humanities" eh? LOL.
Why not try demonstrating some humanity then?

Oh and Don. Thanks for the link to Flanders and Swann You Tube clip.
Shame they didn't add a verse about Australia.

Regrads Ralphie

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 03:42 PM

The first to adapt an electric guitar from an acoustic one was, as you may know, an American - but important developments were made in England and, yes, singing around one is another one of our fine ENGLISH traditions.

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 03:54 PM

"Shame they didn't add a verse about Australia."
Australia wasn't worth a verse... =)

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 04:06 PM

Actually Volgadon.

The last verse of the F&S song would fit nicely (In a sporting way!)
To Quote

And, crossing the ocean, each nations the same.
They've simply no notion of playing the game.
They argue with umpires, they cheer when they've won.
And they practice beforehand, which ruins the fun!

Spoken...

It's not that they're wicked or naturally bad.
It's knowing they're foreign, that makes me SO MAD!!!!!

Regards Ralphie

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 18 Sep 08 - 06:33 AM

Dear Don, as detailed before on Mudcat, and on the site I just gave, there is a SCOTTISH folk degree in Glasgow, and an IRISH one in Limerick, but in Newcastle, England, it's a general degree in Folk and Traditional Music - there is no English folk degree.
And an English repat at least trying to sing in an earthy English accent is a far cry from born-and-bred English copying an American one, and an even further cry from The Beatles trying to speak in an American accent or English pensioners giggling at Morris dancing whilst tugging on their cowboy boots to go Line Dancing!

Poem 213 of 230: MORE AMOR PATRIAE

There is Tai Chi and there is tennis,
    Line is fine but so is Morris,
There is curry and there is the roast,
    And, when England is playing host,
It is the rest-of-the-world's good wish
    To sense culture that is English.

From walkaboutsverse.741.com

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: mandotim
Date: 18 Sep 08 - 07:11 AM

WAV re my post of 17th September at 9.32 AM (Mudcat time); Are you ready to give a specific answer yet?
Re; Earthy English accent (above); which particular accent were you trying to imitate? Still sounds like Strine to me.I know of no regional accent or dialect in England called 'Earthy'.
Re; Tennis. Why do you hold up tennis as a part of English culture? as with pottage, most scholars of the game conclude that tennis was originally a French invention that spread to England via monasteries and the nobility between the 13th and 15th centuries. Tennis has generally been regarded as the preserve of the privileged classes through the ages, rather than a commonly practised part of the overall culture of England. This raises two points about your arguments;
1. If you are convinced that this imported game is now a part of English culture, then we can conclude that your answer to my question above will be (as a minimum) that cultural practices need to be older than 600 to 800 years before being assimilated. Is this so? What percentage of the population play tennis? Most authorities conclude that it is between 1 and 3%, so by your arguments again only 3% of the population need to practise a cultural artefact before you will accept it as part of the overall culture of the nation. True?
2. If your arguments about each nation practising its own culture and 'appreciating' but not practising cultures from elsewhere are followed through to their logical conclusion, then your identification of tennis as English would preclude other nations from playing (by your 'rules'). Extrapolate this to other sports with varying points of origin, and you would destroy the whole framework of international sport. Australians would not play cricket, nor would Indians, Pakistanis, Sri Lankans or West Indians. The Davis Cup would reside permanently at Wimbledon, as there would be no-one to play. Andy Murray should cease and desist from playing tennis, and take up shinty instead. English people would not play golf, as this is part of the Scots 'own good culture'. England would win the World Cup in Association Football and Rugby Union every four years without playing a single game. Only the Greeks would be allowed to enter the Olympic Games. Bear in mind I have only used your logic here WAV; do you still think that cultural segregation into nation states is a good idea?
Regards
Tim

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 18 Sep 08 - 07:11 AM

http://www.geocities.com/~beatleboy1/db1968.0605.beatles.html
Sounds like they were just goofing off, WAV, or is a sense of humour not part of OUR OWN GOOD CULTURE.

As I pointed out, curry is as much a part of English culture if not more, as it is of Indian.

As you say, line is FINE!!! You don't HAVE to dance, or even like, morris in order to be English.

Tai-chi is not a sport like tennis, which itself is a foreign import.

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 18 Sep 08 - 07:12 AM

Oi WAV.

What on earth are you talking about now, for (insert deity here)'s sake??

Please, no more of what you laughingly call poetry.
Why do you wish to keep making such a fool of yourself?
Some sort of death wish?
English Martyrdom?

To quote
"There is Tai Chi and there is tennis
Line is fine but so is Morris"

Yes, .......And????
Your point being???

There's also the Lib-Dems, Sink estates, Credit Crunch, Global Warming, Porridge, (Woops thats Scottish.) I could go on, but whats the point.

Warm Woollen Mittens perhaps? (Rhymes with kittens, if my memory serves me right)
These are a few of my favourite things...
All together now...."Doe a dear a female dear....DOH"
(and from the same film...Tommorrow belongs to me)
Slightly Nazi? Shurely Not.

As for
"It is the rest-of-the world's good wish (Why the hyphens?)
To sense culture that is English"
With little or no respect. The rest of the world couldn't give a flying F**k about the English. Because Engaland as you understand it, doessn't exist.
It never has. Being English comes from within, not ridiculous stereotypes foisted upon us by very strange Australians.
I'm completely happy with my perception of being English.
Anyone who tries to define Englishness, obviously doesn't belong here.

ARE YOU HEARING ME?
Deal

with it.

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 18 Sep 08 - 07:16 AM

WARNING

Be prepared for yet another piece of doggerel from our wierd Australian.

Give it 5 minutes.

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: catspaw49
Date: 18 Sep 08 - 07:24 AM

Geeziz......Your poetry really sucks. Really. I mean that's not a personal attack or a joke or anything.....just a statement. Your poetry sucks.

Spaw

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 18 Sep 08 - 07:28 AM

Sorry WAV. Missed this gem!

"And an English repat at least trying to sing in an Earthy English Accent"

Please define "Earthy English Accent"
Name, Names. please....I'd really like to know of whom you speak?

Seth Lakeman? Bob Copper? June Tabor? Martyn Whyndham Read?
(names just plucked from the air, no offence intended, but, at least I know MWR, A UK born chap, who spent many years in Oz, and a true gent, both personally, and professionally who has done so much to link the connections between the UK and the US and Australia with his two Songlinks projects)

When you WAV produce the body of work that Martyn has produced over the last 3 decades, then I will take you seriously.

Until then, you are a figure of fun.
Don't blame us. You started it with your vision of "Perfidious Albion"

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 18 Sep 08 - 07:32 AM

Oh WAV.

Another one I missed...

The Beatles singing in an American accent??
Sounds like pure F**cking Scouse to me.
Think you've been away too long!

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 18 Sep 08 - 07:36 AM

There are calisthenics and then there is golf,
    Fox-trot is hot but so is Saltarello,
There is mamaliga and there is the full continental breakfast,
    And, when Vermeer's native-land is playing host
It is the rest-of-the-world's good grace
    To sense culture that is based around lace.

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 18 Sep 08 - 07:47 AM

Ah... The Voice of Reason in a Turbulant World.
Your words bring sweet balm to a troubled soul.
Thank You
I will make a quilt of your musings today, and sleep at rest tonight
My Friend, Bless you....
And may your Antipodean deity go with you!

As for you Mr Spaw (Guess you've never been called Mr before!)

How DARE you get involved in a purely UK/AUS spat!

(Actually, many thanks.)
I'm quite a nice bloke sometimes, but this idiot has pulled my chain, big time. Not proud of some of what I've written, but what he says is so WRONG.

Let's see what he comes up with next. Feel free to contribute!

Regards Ralpie

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: Mr Happy
Date: 18 Sep 08 - 07:55 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merry_England

Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 18 Sep 08 - 08:00 AM

Thanks Mr Happy....
But Why???
Ralphie