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BS: The worlds best pie

Wesley S 27 Nov 10 - 01:17 PM
VirginiaTam 27 Nov 10 - 01:19 PM
John MacKenzie 27 Nov 10 - 01:33 PM
GUEST,Jon 27 Nov 10 - 01:33 PM
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Subject: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Wesley S
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 01:17 PM

I've decided that the worlds best pie is either Pecan Pie or Key Lime Pie. It's a tie. End of story. And anyone who disagrees is just a troll.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 01:19 PM

mmmm pecan pie ... then key lime as a palate cleanser so you can have some more pecan pie


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 01:33 PM

Beef and Oyster


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 01:33 PM

Humble pie but I'm not to good at eating it...


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: gnu
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 01:40 PM

At the moment, it's coconut cream pie from Nanna's Bakery as far as Mum is concerned.

Me, I gotta go with strawberry-rhubarb and a strong cup of tea.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 01:43 PM

I suppose being more food thinking Pip's Spinach and cheese pie has to be up with the best.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 01:46 PM

And for a sweet pie. apple pie.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: EBarnacle
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 01:51 PM

Many years ago, I grew out of Boston Cream Pie. My current preference is a cheese cake make with cream cheese [no ricotta, thank you] and key lime. Why waste stomach volume on a lot of crust?


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 01:53 PM

Apple.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: gnu
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 01:55 PM

If it was made with my grandfather LeBlanc's crust recipe you would. Even melt in yiour mouth flaky on the bottom.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 01:57 PM

Flaky on the bottom g?
Sounds a bit rude to me ☺☻ ☺


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: ClaireBear
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 01:58 PM

Mincemeat from my own recipe.

Second-best is T-Day Leftovers Pie, which is everything you had for Thanksgiving dinner (turkey, yams, peas, dressing, cranberry sauce, mashed potatoes, gravy...) moistened with a bit of turkey gravy and baked en croute, preferably deep-dish. Better than Thanksgiving dinner!


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 02:09 PM

ClaireBear That sounds like my Boxing Day pie... Christmas turkey, parsnips, roast taters and gravy, in an oven dish covered with stuffing, drizzled with more gravy.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 02:16 PM

I do Bubble ans squeak with my Christmas leftovers, although it never includes turkey. Not fond of turkey, find it too dry, and a bit coarse in texture.
Shall be having pork and crackling, with all trimmings for my Christmas dinner
Add onions, and chop up some of the meat, throw in the leftover veg, add some butter, and fry briskly. The aim is to get the edges crispy.
Yummy


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 02:20 PM

....either Pecan Pie or Key Lime Pie.

How that be the world's best pie? Where's the meat?


DC


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 02:39 PM

The P-Vine's apple pie is, by far, the world's best pie... Period... End of discussion...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 02:40 PM

Lemon meringue or key lime

Pumpkin topped with whipped cream

Rhubarb topped with whipped cream

Any pot pie- chicken, turkey leftover-

I never met a pie I didn't like.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: gnu
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 02:51 PM

Bobert... Saturday night eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Ed T
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 04:41 PM

My favourite is cherry.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: frogprince
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 04:47 PM

Sorry Wesley, but pecan pie is my next-to-the-bottom choice, just above mincemeat pie, which I've never been able to understand at all. It's not that I consider mincemeat really bad food, it's just that every other kind of pie (I'm thinking in terms of dessert pies) is better. The best pie in the world is a proper banana cream; but I eat apple, cherry, and pumpkin more, so as to save banana cream for special sublime moments.
What about buttermilk pie? I ordered a piece in Death Valley Junction, at the Amargosa Cafe, just to try something I had never heard of, but someone who walked in just ahead of us got the last piece they had.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: catspaw49
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 07:26 PM

I'm pretty much with you Wes except that nowadays I can't eat pecans dammit(divertidlar problems***sigh***..............Karen bakes some wonderful killer fruit pies and her crusts are unbelievable. But at the very top of my list is this ridiculously sweet and rich................

BUTTERMILK PIE (makes 2 pies)

Make up two of your favorite recipe deep dish pie shells or buy a couple of premade....your choice. Sorry you can't have Karen's! Brown them a bit before adding the filling.

FILLING:
Ingredients:
5 Cups Granulated Sugar
6 Tablespoons Flour
10 Tablespoons Butter
6 Eggs
3 Cups Buttermilk
2 teaspoons Vanilla
2 teaspoons vinegar

Combine the sugar and flour. Melt the butter in a separate bowl then mix in the eggs,buttermilk,vanilla,and vinegar. Mix well!!! Add in the sugar/flour and continue mixing.....good mixing is important.

Pour the filling mixture into the pie shells and bake at 400 for 10 minutes, then turn down to 350 for an additional 40-50 minutes (clean toothpick check). Let cool and EAT!!!

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Have a supply of antacid handy (and some rope to tie down your kids is helpful too).

Enjoy (and so will your dentist)

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 07:43 PM

I just had one of the best pecan pies I ever ate.....and pecan pie **done right** is sure hard to beat! I haven't had good mincemeat pie in 40 years, but have memories of my mother making it.

However....I HAVE had fresh Gooseberry Pie, and it was beyond sublime. Hard to find fresh Gooseberries here though.

Then.... a friend makes a Cranberry-Pecan pies to die for....

And Keylime pie made 'just right' is heaven....

of course, Banana Creme is wonderful....

And, growing up, I preferred Cherry pie with vanilla ice cream....and...and...and I do NOT care for Rhubarb or Pumpkin- you may have my share.
-----------------------------\\

So....one day to live and an offer of ONE piece of pie made perfectly? I guess it would be the fresh Gooseberry.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Wesley S
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 08:27 PM

Mmmmmmm Buttermilk pie. Very near the top of my list along with lemon chess pie and peanut butter pie. I may need a shot of insulin just thinking about them.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: frogprince
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 08:53 PM

Hey, thanks, Spaw!

A more recent discovery for me is 5-fruit pie, that I first had in Quebec a few years ago. I have found it in at least one Ontario restaurant, and my wife has whipped one up at least once. Not too bad.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Janie
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 08:54 PM

If made from fresh pie pumpkins, then pumpkin pie is my favorite.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Mrrzy
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 09:08 PM

I finally switched allegiance from Ron's apple pie, named for a long-discarded ex-uncle of my kids' whose pie was so incredibly scrumptious there was no way it was going out with the bathwater, to my sister (not Ron's ex)'s cherry pie that somehow has marzipan in it... aaahhh, I LOVE Thanksgiving!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry for trolling, Wes, you know I love you!


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Leadfingers
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 09:34 PM

My Ex did a good pie , but she never beat My Old Mom for either sweet OR savoury !
Dont want to fight with any one but for me . Mom's pies are the winners - Shame that at nearly 95 she doesnt cook very much now !


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: EBarnacle
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 11:24 PM

Actually, Lady Hillary made a killer squash and pumpkin pie for Thursday. She used fresh pumpkin and butternut squash as the base. At presentation, she used a firm yogurt [homemade] as a topping. Knockout!


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: jeffp
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 11:35 PM

Fresh blueberry pie with Grand Marnier in it to wake up the flavor of the berries. A great midsummer favorite.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,mark-s(on the road)
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 11:46 PM

Apple pie.

BUT YOU HAVE TO USE FUJI APPLES!
AND LARD IN THE CRUST!

Other than that, no strong opinions!

Mark


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: LadyJean
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 11:48 PM

This was above a chess thread when I found it. Which made me think, chess pie, found only below the Mason Dixon line, is pretty good.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 11:51 PM

If you ever find yourself in the Eagle centre, Derby - try the Chicken and Vermouth pie/ one of my favourites.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Skivee
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 11:55 PM

I don't mean to contrary, but all those whom embrace the twin evils that are Key Lime pie and Mince Meat are doing simply doing the work of Satan.
Fresh Peach and Cherry are the only true pies. Dissenting opinions are invalid.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Janie
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 12:11 AM

Not fond of custards (except for pumpkin.) A textural preference, I think.

The crust makes the pie, imho, whether sweet or savory. As much art and practice as science, in my experience.

Like 99% of people who make pies, I don't use lard because it so remarkably bad for you, but got to agree with Mark that it takes lard to make the truly perfect pie crust.

After pumpkin, I'd have to agree with the cherry pie lovers - no - wait - Apple - er - maybe blueberry?


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: EBarnacle
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 01:32 AM

Skivee, where would you wish to meet at sword's point to have a dialogue on the matter...and who are your seconds?


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: EBarnacle
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 01:39 AM

Your intolerably pedantic statement is an insult to Lady Hillary's effort. I presume the weapon of choice will be epees, which I shall be pleased to provide.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 01:41 AM

Do you Yoosers over there have what we Yookers over here call "Shepherd's Pie"? ~~ a misnomer really, because it isn't a pie, because it hasn't a pastry crust, but a dish of minced lamb served under browned mashed potatoes: can be done with minced beef also, but then it is called Cottage Pie. I repeat, neither really strictly a 'pie' in the generally accepted sense of having a pastry case & topping; but delicious dishes nonetheless.

~Michael~


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 01:43 AM

...& to clarify: what we call "minced meat" {as distinct from mincemeat, which is the fruit & brandy &c concoction which goes into mincepies} is what you I believe call "ground meat".

~M~


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 05:56 AM

The best pie in the world is the good old growler, end of.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Arnie
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 06:30 AM

Home-made steak and kidney is my favourite. On the dessert side, home-made apple pie with cream is tops!


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 06:50 AM

Mince is mince Mike. It's named only by the meat from which it's made, eg pork mince, lamb mince, beef mince, etc.
Mincemeat is always the delicious concoction of peel, currants, raisins, sultanas, nuts, and suet,(vegetarian if you must) with added alcohol.
We make our own, as shop bought tends to be both, too sweet, and too fine in texture.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: JennyO
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 07:07 AM

Steak and ale pie for me! Or a good apple pie. Rob has been turning out some wonderful crumbles lately - latest was apple and blueberry, and rhubarb and apple was great too - but I suppose they don't really qualify as pies.

And of course, no thread about pie would be complete without This!


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 07:07 AM

Can't remember the last time Pip made mincemeat, John but yes it beats shop bought! (and here it would be veggie suet)


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 07:33 AM

funny pie sketch

Must do seconds to savour the real nuances of flavour..


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Ed T
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 08:22 AM

Mock Cherry pie is also nice:

1 Cup Fresh Canrberries
1/2 Cup Dark Raisins
1/2 Cup Sugar
1 TBSP. Flour
1/2 Cup Water
1/4 tsp. Vanilla
1 unbaked pie shell


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Wesley S
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 09:10 AM

I might add that the only proper liquid refreshment with my forementioned pies are a cold glass of milk or strong coffee.

Tea - not so much.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 09:19 AM

Fish and finger pie in Penny lane reputedly quite good.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,999
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 09:38 AM

Gotta be steak and kidley.

Fellow says, I`d like two pounds of kidley. Butcher says what. Guy repeats: I`d like two pounds of kidley. Butcher says, you mean kidney dontcha. Guy responds, that what I said, diddle I.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 09:47 AM

I heard you the first time.
Which reminds me of the bloke who walked into the chip shop and said. "Fish and chips twice please"
The man behind the counter said.........
"I heard you the first time"


Boom boom

Quick, somebody dial 999


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 10:02 AM

-I'd watch chip shops


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Amos
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 11:29 AM

You'd have to go a ways to find a pie better than the Dutch Apple sold by Coco's. There is one bette,r though. It's the home-made crumb-top apple pie made at the Rock Springs Cafe in the desert hills fifty miles north of Pheonix.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 12:02 PM

Agreed, John MacK ~~ except that beef-mince &c can also be called minced beef &c; & mince pies, as I said before, are made from what we both call mincemeat, which uses the old-fashioned meaning of 'meat' to mean any food, & contains NO meat in the modern sense at all.

BTW, why no mention so far of desperate Dan's cow-pie?

~Michael~


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: EBarnacle
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 12:05 PM

Skivee, as I was discussing my previous posting with Lady Hillary, she suggested that a more appropriate challenge would be cream pies at 5 paces, followed by adjournment to the nearest tavern.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Silas
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 12:16 PM

Pukka Balti Pie!


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 12:31 PM

Oh dear, last night I watched the film Sweeny Todd on TV. Mrs Lovatt's Meat Pie Emporium! I don't want to think about pies for a few days after that.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Skivee, incognito
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 12:57 PM

EB My prefered weaponry would be me with my custom built saber vs. you with the custard pies...followed by you buying me a drink :-).
In truth , about the only pie I REALLY detest is the terrible American style Mincemeat...awful.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 01:17 PM

Fleur De Lys pies from Lowsonford, Henley-in-Arden,
Warwickshire have always been the best for me and with a tradition.

Have a read http://www.fleurdelys-lowsonford.com/page6.htm

Used to love my Fluer De Ly pie and a bovril at half time at Villa Park


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: EBarnacle
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 01:23 PM

Very well, you with your sabre and me with the cream pies at 5 paces. Where would you like to meet?


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 01:30 PM

Villa Park :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Skivee, again
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 01:37 PM

I don't know where this "Villa Park" is, but it sounds like a lovely place for a pie fight. Failing that, you can propose your local watering hole.
Can you slice a pie properly with a sword?


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 01:44 PM

http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/VirtualTour/0,,10265,00.html

"Can you slice a pie properly with a sword?"

No but I sure can eat the slices :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: EBarnacle
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 02:00 PM

Skivee, Lady Hillary and I have been drooling over a boat on eBay down your way [Maryland Marina, near Baltimore]. Although we don't intend to buy it, perhaps we could meet at the boat yard, admire the boat and proceed about our business.

Perhaps next Sunday?


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 02:13 PM

We could do with one of those charts.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: gnu
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 02:17 PM

And, there is frozen Sara Lee Dutch Apple pie for $3 on sale here. Pretty hard to beat a large and delicious pie for $3 that bakes in an hour. No way you can buy the ingredients for that price and m/bake one in an hour. No muss, no fuss.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 02:27 PM

What's a muss?


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Wesley S
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 02:33 PM

A French fuss.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: JennyO
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 02:50 PM

Come to think of it, there IS another pie that I should mention. When Rob and I were in Australia, I introduced him to Harry's Cafe de Wheels down at Wooloomooloo, to sample their world famous pie floaters (meat pies topped with mushy peas). He liked his so much, he went straight back and bought another one.

Anyone who ever visits Sydney should put Harrys on their "must see" list. It's a unique experience to perch on a wall looking at the water while you are eating one of those mouth-watering delights!


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: frogprince
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 03:20 PM

U.S.type people have been known to eat shepherd's pie, too. Over here it's something like banjos; no one admits to having any respect for it, but a lot of people secretly like it. The last I had myself was a while back as a free evening meal at the Green Tortois Hostel in San Francisco.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 04:03 PM

I love an egg banjo


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 04:33 PM

JennyO: the pie floater must have crossed states - it used to be a South Australian thing, which I sunk into whilst a student at Adelaide University...where next for this pie in the sky?!


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 06:07 PM

Tortiere, or Quebec meat pie, is as variable as there are cooks in Quebec.
This one includes potatoes, and is known as

Tortiere du Lac Saint Jean.

1 pound ground pork
2 medium potatoes, peeled and grated
1 onion, medium, chopped
2 cloves garlic (or use the paste that comes in a jar- stronger)
1/4 teaspoon cloves
1/4 teaspoon cinnamon
2/3 teaspoon savory
1 teaspoon salt
1/4 teaspoon white pepper
1/2 cup water (more or less)

(A recipe I saw at Gatehouse Gourmet adds shredded carrot and chopped celery and parsley). Many variations possible. I have had one made with ground chicken breast; very good.

Put all ingredients in a thick skillet.
Bring to a boil, stirring to keep pieces small.
Add a small splash armagnac or cognac and mix in well in the last few minutes of cooking.

Cool before filling pie shell(largish pie pan)
Top with remaining pastry
Brush with beaten egg (some thin with water)

Bake at 400 F. until golden brown (350-400F for approx. 1 hour).
(Traditional is a steam hole. Use finger to make a little funnel in the centre to let steam escape while baking).
Best served hot, but leftover is good cold at breakfast.

Pastry must be lard. No substitute.

Serve with a good wine.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 06:09 PM

Forgot to thank Catspaw for the Buttermilk Pie recipe. Many years since I had one.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Ed T
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 06:40 PM

The best pie in the world is a Pizza pie:

covered with spicy tomato sauce or BBQ sauce and smothered with varied cheeze products,

and loaded with your personal choice of toppings:

pepperoni, Italian Sausage (sweet or hot or both), salami, smoked sausage, kielbasa, bratwurst, weisswurst, knockwurst, cut up slim jims, beef jerky, ground beef, fajita beef, nacho beef, carne asada, carne al pastor, barbacoa, taco meat, gyros meat, donair meat, ground pork, Canadian bacon, breakfast sausage, boiled ham, baked ham, virginia cured ham, baloney, weiner, capaccola, procuitto, jerk pork, BBQ pulled pork, carnitas, turkey sausage, duck sausage, peking duck, poached chicken, fried chicken, fajita chicken, jerk chicken, BBQ chicken, fried egg, anchovies, tofu, bell pepper, peppercini, jalapenos, chipotles in adobo, habeneros, banana peppers, red onion, white onion, green onion, scallions, shallots, leeks, vine ripe tomato, green tomato, sun dried tomato, button mushrooms, shitake mushrooms, crimini, portabello's , Zucchini, ripe black olives, cured kalamata olives, green manzanilla olives, pineapple, dill pickle chips, sweet pickle chips, crumbled potato chips, tortilla chips, smunched doritos, fritos, fun-yum's, or pork rinds.

Baked in an oven fired by gas, electricity or wood.

sprinkled with numerous fresh or dried herbs and/or parmesan and/or romano cheeze.

And a diping sauce, chedder or blue cheese, donair sauce, BBQ sauce, hot sauce, yada yada.

(From, the Urban Dictionary)


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: frogprince
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 07:42 PM

As to meat pies, hare pie has to be the best.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Smokey.
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 07:52 PM

My late aunt Margaret's corned beef and onion pies were by far the finest ever. The pastry was so good (as in unhealthy) it was banned under the Geneva convention.

Then there are pork pies, to which I'm extremely partial, but spoilt, as I grew up only a few doors from the most delicious I've ever tasted since.

Bollocks, now I'm hungry..


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: gnu
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 07:54 PM

Froggy.... I love hair pie, but it has been years since I've had a bite.


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Subject: ADD: Alligator Pie (recitation)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 07:55 PM

Alligator Pie

Dennis Lee
From:   Alligator Pie. Toronto: Macmillan, 1974.


Alligator pie, alligator pie,
If I don't get some I think I'm gonna die.
Give away the green grass, give away the sky,
But don't give away my alligator pie.

Alligator stew, alligator stew,
If I don't get some I don't know what I'll do.
Give away my furry hat, give away my shoe,
But don't give away my alligator stew.

Alligator soup, alligator soup,
If I don't get some I think I'm gonna droop.
Give away my hockey stick, give away my hoop,
But don't give away my alligator soup.


from Canadian Poetry Online.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Smokey.
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 07:57 PM

And make it snappy..


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: olddude
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 07:58 PM

I hear tell any pie made by Maeve


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Ed T
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 08:11 PM

Seaweed pie?

seaweed pie


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Jack Campin
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 08:59 PM

Heston Blumenthal: ice cream meat pie


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: frogprince
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 10:08 PM

ice...cream...meat...

is he f**kin' for real?


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 05:11 AM

gnu, here I am resisting the urge to suggest that sort of pie, and there you go mentioning it!


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 06:55 AM

This is a hard one for me I love all sweet pies I couldn't say my favourite it would take me days to come to a decision. But I will get started Pecan pie, Key Lime pie, Apple pie, Lemon Meringue, Bakewell tart, Manchester tart, Treacle tart, Coconut tart, not sure if it counts but cheese cakes or crumbles too, Apple pie with a crumble top or Rhubarb. Apple and blackberry pie.

For meat pies my favourite ones Steak and Ale Pie, real cornish pasties filled with gravy are moreish I assume they are classed as pies of a kind. Egg, cheese, Onion and Bacon pie is nice which I suppose is technically a cover hot quiche nice hot or cold.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 10:55 AM

sign in a small restaurant window:

"Pie like Mother used to make- $1.25. Pie like he SAYS she made $1.75"


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 11:38 AM

According to Desperate Dan, it has to be Cow Pie Pic 2 of 6


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 11:41 AM

A second helping


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 11:54 AM

As this thread is coincidentally ongoing at the time I read it, here is an extract from Giles Coren's restaurant column in Saturday's Times Magazine:

"··· started with a Herefordshire snail and bacon pie so big that Desperate Dan would have belched and pushed it away before he was halfway through. All it lacked was a pair of feelers sticking out to go the full Cow Pie. A preposterous starter. But wonderful eating: full of fat English snails, rich and gutsy under thick, shiny pastry."

YUM!

~Michael~


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Amos
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 11:58 AM

"It's GOOD, though..."


'Nuff said.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: MMario
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 01:20 PM

The best pie in the world is the one I get to eat.

so it varies depending on what I am eating...

Frozen Key Lime pie is excellent; a good pecan pie is hard to beat. Buttermilk pie is sinfully good and probably supports more doctors then any other pie.

A good mincemeat pie is a treasure; And why call it mock cherry when cranberry pie is so good on it's own?

Savoury pies are a whole 'nother class of stuff...

And cheesecakes are seperate from pie
As is boston cream pie - which is about as much a pie as Manhatten clam chowder is a chowder. Calling a skunk cabbage a rose doesn't make it smell any sweeter.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Becca72
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 01:22 PM

You all can keep your minced meat, key lime and cherry. BLECK I say!

Chocolate cream with graham cracker crust for me, please.

OR

Hot apple pie with French vanilla ice cream.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: gnu
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 02:04 PM

Joe... 'Give away my hockey stick,..." That's just not Canadian.

froggy... at mémère LeBlanc's, the turkey was left on the table to be had with pie and ice cream. An old Acadian tradition.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: PoppaGator
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 03:22 PM

I can't believe that no one has yet mentioned SWEET POTATO PIE. Must be due to the overwhelmingly "caucasian" (i.e., pigmentally-challenged) population hereabouts.

Sweet potato pie is very similar to pumpkin pie ~ same seasonings, etc. The texture is perhaps a bit heavier, the color slightly darker, and the flavor is just a little different. The main difference is that, traditionally, African-American people have used yams (sweet potatoes) rather than pumpkins to make their orange-colored custard pies. Soul food, in other words.

********************************

My maternal grandmother was an immigrant from Alsace-Lorraine, and was an incredible pastry chef whose apple pies were invariably pronounced the best-ever-tasted by just about everyone fortunate enough to have enjoyed a sample. Her Irish-immigrant husband was famously insistent upon being "American" and forgetting about "the other side" (the Old Country, or in their case, old countrIES), so he insisted that she make her fabulous Apple Streudel in a round pie pan, transforming it from a European delicacy into an "All-American" apple pie.

Grandma's apple filling was very good of course, just sweet enough, but her pie crust was what really made it special. She always talked about how it would be even better if Grandpa would let her use lard, but she made do with Crisco (solid shortening). The trick, apparently, is to handle the dough as little as possible to keep it light rather than tough. Even her bottom crust was flaky! (Yes, that is possible.)

My mother never learned her mother's knack for pastry, but fortunately, one of my (male) cousins studied with Grandma, successfully, and can now make the second-best apple pie in known human history.

I can't say I have any single favorite kind of pie. I like apple, of course, but since no regular-type top crust can ever measure up to Grandma's, I usually opt for the crumb-topped or "Dutch" apple pie.

I am also quite partial to mince pie, and can't understand why so many people I know claim to dislike it. To me, nothing else tastes so much like Christmas as that good old mincemeat filling. I bought and "baked" a frozen Mrs. Smith's mince pie over the weekend and was very pleased with it; the filling was tastier and freer of aftertaste than the "Nonesuch" brand canned mincemeat available for making a more "homemade" mince pie (i.e., canned filling in a homemade shell).


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Ed T
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 03:38 PM

So, what kind'a apples makes the best apple pie?


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 04:55 PM

Stayman winesaps

(Lord, it's been too many years out in the West... nary a winesap to be had.)

~ Becky in Long Beach


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 05:15 PM

Howgate Wonder


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 05:41 PM

Some people have, unfortunately, been fed bad examples of mincemeat, raisin...etc. It is possible to ruin a basically good pie with cheap, over-sweetened, plastic-like ingredients....so of course they will not rush for more of those pies.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 05:48 PM

Apple pies here are always made with Bramley apples. Do you have those over there?

~M~


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Ed T
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 05:57 PM

Bread pudding apple pie


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 06:22 PM

Bread and butter pudding Yum


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 06:57 PM

We don't know apples by the name Bramley.... we have many types, and a common one for pies is Granny Smith


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: maeve
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 07:26 PM

Bramley's Seedling was indeed brought over to the US many years ago. It can still be found in some old orchards and those specializing in heritage apples.

Olddude- Thanks.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: maeve
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 12:04 AM

PoppaGator- My South Carolina grandmother made a wondrous fine Sweet Potato Pie; another recipe lost in the fire.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: LadyJean
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 12:22 AM

I had forgotten sweet potato pie. There was a garden club made up of African American ladies who sold about the best I've ever had at the May Market. Along with the mushroom sandwiches and the dipped strawberries that pie was the best thing at the market. Alas those excellent ladies don't come anymore. You can still get the strawberries. After many years of dipping them, I hate the sight of the things, but they're good. The mushroom sandwiches are also available.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 01:57 AM

Like the best pumpkin, sweet potato pie is best made with fresh taters rather than the canned crap. I ran across a good recipe that works well for all the squash type fillings whether it be tater or punkin or acorn or butternut squash. The real secret I found was never to overmash the mix, leave it a bit lumpy......I was surprised at how the texture difference improved the pies.

I rarely see any Custard Pie anymore and that which I do is lousy. My Dad was a big nut for Custard and it was only when I got older that I realized the delicate flavor and how it is maunly ruined by most cooks.   I think I'll beg Karen to make them her next learning project...LOL......

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 02:51 AM

There is nothing worse than a undercooked soggy bottomed pie I have had the odd one served up in some restaurants and it is awful. Has anyone got any good tips for good pastry?


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 04:56 AM

Soggy Bottom pie, must be what they serve in Washington DC, in the State Department staff restaurant.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 05:01 AM

strawberry rhubarb


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: MikeL2
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 10:40 AM

hi

Tonight the best pie in the World is the steak & kidney home-made pie that my wife has in the over.

It is still 2 hours to dinner but the smell of the pie cooking is driving me crazy.

Cheers

Mikel2


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 04:16 PM

People recommend prebaking the crust sometimes..at least partially..with some pie stones or beans or something in to keep it flat...I was talking with a friend..I happen to make wonderful pies but I can't stand the thought of eating anything so ..to me it is slimey..mg


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 04:51 PM

Blind baking I call it. I use dried haricot beans, but you can buy clay balls specially for the purpose


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: frogprince
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 04:53 PM

mg, I'm sorry but you lost me there; does the slimy refer to something about the crust, or to the steak and kidneys, or?

Would you believe we have a buttermilk pile, 'Spaw's recipe, in the oven right now. Soon I'll find out if I agree with him, or think he's crazy for eating the stuff. Sadly, my wife really doesn't dare get near more than a nibble of anything with sugar content like this; she would have to add an extra bucket of insulin.

Actually, it just came out of the oven a minute ago, so we'll soon see.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: frogprince
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 04:56 PM

And after the buttermilk pile, we may try a buttermilk pie!


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Ed T
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 05:27 PM

Old Fashioned Strawberry Pie
(uncooked strawberries, with whipped cream on top)


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: frogprince
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 06:53 PM

Well, 'Spaw, thanks for the recipe; I think we followed it very carefully, and I would say the pie is a little somethin' different, and tasty; but I really can't say that I find it as interesting, or appealing, as any number of fruit pies, or banana cream or chocolate cream. I didn't have a cup of coffee ready to go with it; I think a cup of fairly strong coffee might make it work just a little better for me.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Wesley S
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 07:53 PM

"Spaw's Buttermilk Pile"

Now THAT'S a song title for you.....

Just waiting for someone brave enough to write it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: EBarnacle
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 11:59 PM

John, I thought you knew that the Soggy Bottom Pie is indigenous to the same area that gave birth to the Soggy Bottom Boys, of Blessed Memory.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Amergin
Date: 01 Dec 10 - 07:55 AM

My gramma is the pie queen....every christmas she makes pecan pies, sour cream and raisin pies, pumpkin, mince meat....and so on....


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: gnu
Date: 01 Dec 10 - 02:42 PM

Dave's Mom... it's a "regular bit".


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 02 Dec 10 - 09:55 AM

I'm not the worlds best pastry cook I don't think I am anyway. It's not me who made the soggy bottom by the way I sampled this once in a High Street cafe in the town. It is slimy stodgey when you try to put a spoon through it rather than crisp and it does spoil the whole thing, more like a slimy gloop in the mouth, yuck.

Bakewell tart can be good it has a pastry base, layer of jam and sponge mixture on top with some almond essence added. But alternative flavours can be added to change it a bit and instead of raspberry jam a layer of cherry is nice with custard, cream or a scoop of ice-cream to top it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Dec 10 - 10:50 AM

LOL @ Froggy......Well thank you for trying and being so tactful!!! It isn't something for everybody as most reasonable people can't stand that much sugar in anything! Rick Fieding tried one once and said "Thanks for the recipe for solidified Sweetened Condensed Milk."

And Q....Glad to have helped (;<))

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 02 Dec 10 - 02:29 PM

Sweetened condensed milk- my wife refuses to use it, period!

I remember, when I was a child, swiping a can of the stuff and eating it with a spoon. I couldn't do that now. I also used to gnaw on cones of hard brown sugar that my parents brought back from Mexico. My sugar intake when I was a kid was phenomenal. I think it contributed to my (so far) long healthy life!


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Dec 10 - 04:39 PM

LOL.....about two months back, Karen opened a can of SWM by accident and put it in the fridge for another time which cam a week later. When she went to retrieve the can it was empty and I said I figured Tristan did it...........didn't work. The damn stuff still tastes good but it now takes me a week to eat a can.......LOL

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: EBarnacle
Date: 03 Dec 10 - 12:07 AM

SWM?


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: maeve
Date: 03 Dec 10 - 06:25 AM

SWM = SCM


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Ed T
Date: 03 Dec 10 - 07:14 AM

SWM = Single, white male

SCM - Single, condensed male (eats pie alot)


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Ed T
Date: 03 Dec 10 - 08:07 AM

The worlds best pie-Don't ask don't tell


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: EBarnacle
Date: 03 Dec 10 - 11:02 AM

Let's try that again, Spaw. A can of SWM?


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Amergin
Date: 03 Dec 10 - 12:55 PM

Yeah, Ebarnacle, haven't you heard of that? It's a boy toy in a can....you gotta keep him cool to keep him fresh though. Otherwise he'll get too spoiled.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Wesley S
Date: 13 Dec 11 - 08:55 AM

A friend just told me that she has a recipe for an apple pie with green chilies. I can't wait to get it and try it out.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Dec 11 - 09:16 AM

There's a pie served around these parts that is a cross between apple crumb pie and cheesecake. TBTG when the place that had it closed, another place started making a similar one!

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Crowhugger
Date: 14 Dec 11 - 02:15 AM

Becky, it's not being in the west, it's agri-business has taken dozens of fabulous old apple varieties out of the orchards in favour of newer. I don't recall the last time I saw a Stayman for sale -- probably 30 plus years ago when I worked at a cider mill. Might still be available in Mennonite areas of Ontario but I can't say for sure.

Fortunately there are people still growing whatever varieties will survive locally, either by experimenting themselves or from old-orchard grafts, but they're becoming more and more scarce. Another gene pool almost drained.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 14 Dec 11 - 12:55 PM

Ours not to reason why
Ours but to eat the pie!

(Fletch in Porridge)


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Dec 11 - 01:41 PM

...was made by my mother.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 14 Dec 11 - 02:37 PM

Steak and kidney pie. Lamb's kidneys and fairly inexpensive casserole beef. The best thing is not to add a load of fancy ingredients. Just chopped onion, salt and pepper. Casserole the meat and kidneys for long enough to make them tender (about 2 hrs). Thicken with Bisto gravy powder (not the granules, horrid stuff, the original powder) Allow to cool. Make the pastry with a mixture of plain and self-raising flour (about twice as much plain to SF) And use LARD (Gasp! Horror! Cholesterol!) and margarine, half fat to flour. Roll it quite thick. Make the pie up, saving most of the gravy, seal the lid with milk. Cook quite slowly for 40 minutes. Use the gravy for the meal, on top of the spuds and vegetables. It's nice cold too.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Wesley S
Date: 14 Dec 11 - 03:34 PM

It's hard to believe that people actually eat organs. To each his own. You're welcome to my share.....


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 14 Dec 11 - 07:50 PM

Oh yes I had a Hammond organ, AT LEAST IT DIDN'T COME IN MY MOUTH -LIKE A MOUTH ORGAN CAN DO.

To this day, if anyones got a nice big Farfisa.....still turns me on a bit.

Did you know Fulham FC are cALLED THE COTTAGERS.

and its not cos of their taste in pies.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Musket
Date: 15 Dec 11 - 05:15 AM

I skimmed through this thread rather fast. (Anything with pies in it is going to get me to click it.)

I take it nobody has mentioned hairy pies yet?

I'll get me coat.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser)
Date: 15 Dec 11 - 08:21 AM

Mrs BAS and her mate once went into a bakers in Bolton and asked if they had any pies. The lady said, 'Eee, lass, have we got any pies? We've got every sort of pie you could want. We've got meat, we've got meat and potato, we've got shortcrust, and we've got flaky'.

Quite right too.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 15 Dec 11 - 09:24 AM

French apple tart has to be one of the best. It tastes and looks delicious especially with cinnamon syrup brushed over the top layer of sliced apples. The tart is delicious served hot or cold whatever the season with a dollop of whatever you fancy on top, cream, ice-cream or custard.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: ranger1
Date: 15 Dec 11 - 10:57 AM

My adopted gran's apple pies were the absolute best. We'd sneak downstairs the morning after whichever holiday it was and have a big slice for breakfast.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 15 Dec 11 - 11:06 PM

People often forget the part pies have played in our culture.

I used to love that musical - The King and Pie

then there was the Frank Ifield song - Pie Remember You

The geometrical equation - pies are squared

Davy Crockett - King of the Pie-on-Ears


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Janie
Date: 16 Dec 11 - 12:00 AM

I confess I do not understand the applause for assorted custard pies -unless they be pumpkin!

Made with fresh organic pie pumpkins and honey to assuage the the conscience just a wee bit for actually using lard to create the perfect crust. The custard rich but not too sweet, and the custard   creamy but not absent a subtle texture. Lemon, coconut or key lime custards, with their intense sweetness and ultrasmooth texture don't appeal to me.

The crust makes the pie, regardless of the filling, in my book.

Any pie made with fresh fruit, as long as crust is good, appeals.

Having said that, I confess that I have never made a crust with lard - have experimented with oil, butter, coconut and all the healthy alternatives - and finally accepted that the next best thing to lard is Crisco - not nearly as healthy as the other alternatives but not nearly as lethal as lard. I've lost my touch from not cooking or baking much, but at one time was quite proud of the touch I had with pie crusts. Never, ever, however, equaled or surpassed my grandmother's lard crusts.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 16 Dec 11 - 01:24 AM

I think many scientists would say lard is healthy, butter is healthy, coconut oil is healthy and the Crisco is what is deadly. I vote for going with lard, after doing research to your satisfaction. Start with Dr. Mary Enig, fat researcher. mg


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Crowhugger
Date: 16 Dec 11 - 03:08 PM

1. My apple pie, lard in the crust, with a subtle amount of nicely balanced spice blend, filling thick enough to allow the pie to be served without collapsing but soft enough to be luscious rather than sticky.

2. My mum's lemon meringue pie recipe when I make it slightly more tart and with 20% more lemon zest (and yes, lard in the crust)

3. There used to be, on Hwy 6 in Mount Forest ON, a greasy spoon (what might be termed a diner in the USA) called Bill's, where his wife made THE most extraordinarily delicious fruit pies with totally edible crusts down to the last crumb. I used to eat some on my way to and from Festival of the Sound. Her pastry was better 'n mine. Unfortunately the place was long ago sold for retirement. If not since torn down and redeveloped, maybe the current owners have finally found a comparable baker...been ages since I was there to see what's up.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: KHNic
Date: 16 Dec 11 - 06:41 PM

High Game Pie takes a lot of beating - partridge, pheasant, veal, onion,mushroom, bacon, delicately seasoned with hints of thyme and bay.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Janie
Date: 16 Dec 11 - 07:34 PM

Crowhugger, please invite me for dessert!


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: gnu
Date: 16 Dec 11 - 07:48 PM

Let's here it for lard! I mean, IF yer gonna eat a slice of pie, why not have a GOOD crust? Tender and flakey and not a pile of mushy goo... top OR bottom.

Fer gosh sakes! It's PIE. It's meant to be a decadent treat. Do it right. Just don't eat two slices in one day.... if ya do, well, yer gonna be a lardass.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 17 Dec 11 - 06:16 AM

Well, I've eaten pies made with a lot of lard in the pastry for seventy years. Also loads and loads of butter, great Hovis doorsteps with half an inch of butter. I've fried almost everything in lard, and put great dollops of butter on greens and spuds. So did my parents and grandparents. And we all lived long lives with hardly any health probs. We also liberally sprinkled things with (gasp! horror!) SALT!! I'm not questioning the science on cholesterol and salt, and I admit I'm a bit tubby (not all that much though, 12 stone) but here I am, still breathing and perfectly healthy. (And have just enjoyed two crumpets for breakfast, dripping with butter) Pies are a most superb thing, and help to make a bit of meat or fruit go a long way.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Janie
Date: 17 Dec 11 - 09:57 AM

Wow, am I outdated! In my youth lard was out as unhealthy and Crisco was in, and I have simply accepted that as "truth" lo these many years.

(thanks for the education, good people.)

I have simply pretty much stayed with Canola, Olive Oil and butter for 40 years. I rarely fry anything, use butter for baking for (except for pie crusts) and simply have not paid attention.

Now, I do read that for lard to be better, it needs to be non-hydrogenated. Is that hard to find in grocery stores?


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Dec 11 - 10:02 AM

Holland Meat Pies

And here's the song to prove it.

:D tG


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 17 Dec 11 - 10:35 AM

Siberian Peach Pie....and very hard to get. Ask my Uncle Hymie.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Manuel
Date: 17 Dec 11 - 11:49 AM

GUEST Eliza is almost cruel to mention those two breakfast crumpets, well toasted as I would imagine. Now my mouth is watering!


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 17 Dec 11 - 12:35 PM

Manuel, they were indeed well-toasted, delicious, and the melted butter ran down my chin... (How to excite a man... tell him about your buttered crumpets!)


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: gnu
Date: 17 Dec 11 - 03:19 PM

Eliza... that leaves the door open for SO many replies. >;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Dec 11 - 03:40 PM

Eliza - You can drip the butter off your crumpets on me anytime...

Oh, hang on. Is that what Gnu was on about?

:D tG


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: gnu
Date: 17 Dec 11 - 03:57 PM

You go ahead... I haven't been on for YEARS.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: DrugCrazed
Date: 17 Dec 11 - 04:09 PM

Has someone made the 3.14159265358979323846264338327... joke yet? If not, I'll get to it now.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Paul Burke
Date: 17 Dec 11 - 04:33 PM

2πr Lord, 2πr,
2πr Lord, 2πr,
2πr Lord, 2πr,
O Lord 2πr

Very pious.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 18 Dec 11 - 07:27 AM

LOL everyone!! Playboy Centrefold.... two buttered crumpets!!


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: mayomick
Date: 18 Dec 11 - 08:16 AM

The weight of pies can often be a problem these days. If you get sold a pie that you suspect may be underweight, there's a place you can go to get it checked out .
Somewhere over the rainbow.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Manuel
Date: 18 Dec 11 - 08:21 AM

Eliza, that's the spirit. I'm proud of you. Look at what they tried to do to our pure and innocent exchange of remarks!


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Crowhugger
Date: 18 Dec 11 - 11:57 AM

Any time Janie!


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Musket
Date: 18 Dec 11 - 12:37 PM

At the match, for many years, I liked a steak and sidney pie to go with my styrene cup of bovril.

I suppose about ten years ago, I got into Balti pies.

Now you're talking!

Impossible for me to enjoy the second half without my half time rats's coffin.


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Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 18 Dec 11 - 01:16 PM

rat's coffin.........   thanks Ian that's put me off me tea!


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