BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 17 Sep 12 - 11:30 AM

Bobert-
Stay away from math. It's not your strong point.

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Sep 12 - 10:16 AM

BTW, there is one scenario where X + Y = X and that is if Y = 0....

If, however, in the case of this phony poll had Y = 0 then there wouldn't have been a "somewhat" category, would there???

B~

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Sep 12 - 09:35 AM

Lets make it real easy for ya', Sawz...

I'm going to assume that you at least took high school algebra...

X = believe

Y = somewhat believe

With your illogic you would have people believe the following:

X + Y = X

You are wrong as wrong can be... You can say that you believe that X + Y = X until yolu are blue in the face but your still wrong... You can say I am a "blowhard" for pointing out your wrongness but you are still wrong... You can set up a folding table in from of your local Food Lion and ask people to sign a petition that says, "We the undersigned believe that X + Y = X and you, and the folks who sign it, will still be wrong...

In other words???

You are wrong... But worse than that, like all tin-foilers, you don't care...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Sawzaw
Date: 17 Sep 12 - 09:24 AM

Bobert:

Telling someone to go somewhere to find something to support your assertion is not presenting a fact. The burden is on you to support your assertion with facts, not the person you accuse.

It is a hollow, Blowhard method to avoid admitting that you are wrong. A diversionary tactic.

You use the term yourself. You contradict yourself and refuse to admit it.

"But I do somewhat agree with John in that the Repub base has a different set of marals than the Dem base but the Repubs have been cultivating these folks for decades with their pounding away at the Dems on "family values" (whatever the hack that means) and now it's coming back to haunt them..."

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Sep 12 - 01:10 PM

He is totally leading you around by the nose Sawz.

Who is your favorite folk singer? Dead or alive?

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Sep 12 - 12:53 PM

I have...

I have tried to explain to you basic college level statistics and fallacy in the poll you cited...

Those are facts... If you were to actually take that poll and article to a stats professor he or she would tell you ignorant self exactly what I have pointed out... You have a bogus poll that was set up to get a desired result...

One can no say that "believe + somewhat believe = believe"... That's pretty clear...

Speaking of believe... There are folks who believe the world is flat, that LBJ had Kennedy killed, that man didn't go to the moon, that vaccines are harmful, etc., etc...

So believe all the wrong stuff you want... It's a free country... Well, kinda...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Sawzaw
Date: 16 Sep 12 - 12:30 PM

Tell ya' what Bobert, act like a man instead of a blowhard and produce some facts that support you assertions. I have already produced mine.

Lets start with your "somewhat higher" statement. How is that mean something different than somewhat lower?

Designing Questionnaire and Survey Research.
Introduce scientific research using quantitative approach.

Example: The Employment Self Esteem Scale INSTRUCTIONS: Please rate how strongly you agree or disagree with each of the following statements by placing a check mark in the appropriate box. 1. I feel good about my work on the job. Strongly Agree Somewhat Agree Somewhat Disagree Strongly Disagree.

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Sep 12 - 11:33 AM

Tell ya' what, Sawz...

When you post a copy of your college transcript indicating that you passed a college Stats course, I'll do the same...

Until then, you are just continuing to pile more evidence into an already high pile that you are clueless on the subject...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Sawzaw
Date: 16 Sep 12 - 10:00 AM

Bobert evidently was not educated at Harvard or MIT.

And he uses the same flawed statements himself so he has shredded nothing but his own credibility.

"I factor in the "corporate/establishment variable" which means that the number is probably somewhat higher... Learned that in "Statistics 201" which dealt alot with polls..."

HMMMM He learned in "Statistics 201" to factor in the somewhat higher [also meaning somewhat lower] corporate/establishment variable"

So his learning was Bogus.

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Sep 12 - 09:56 AM

No, Chongz, I don't need no stenkin' advice...

You???

B~

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Sep 12 - 12:03 AM

He is totally playing you dog.

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 15 Sep 12 - 11:58 PM

What I would like is to HAVE some of that wealth, then sit back and see if I think I deserve it or not! I bet most other people think the same way.

Bobertz, you ever write to Anne Landers? Or Dear Abby?

- Chongo

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 15 Sep 12 - 10:32 PM

I ain't challenging your poll now, Saws...

I have shredded it all to hell and back...

It is bogus as a $3 bill...

Get an education, man... Your posts read like "Notes from the Mentally Challenged" ward of any state mental hospital...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Sep 12 - 10:30 PM

HJaving been responsible for conducting polls for aalmost 20 years, I ca only comment that the best way of asking a question like thti is not through discrete numbers or words---a line with one end labled "Agree completely" and the other labled "Totally disagree", wher the one taking the poll puts a mark along the line. It's not a perfect system----the pollstertill has to analyze the data, but it avoids silly agruments like the one tthat's going on here.

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Sawzaw
Date: 15 Sep 12 - 10:10 PM

Jack: I like music.
Is there any requirement you have about who posts what?
Do you have some authority or just arrogance?
I have no requirements.
You are the one picking fights and Bobert is the one challenging me about the poll.

Rather than produce any facts, he makes personal attacks like you. The description of a person that does that is a blowhard.
Telling someone to go somewhere for the proof is an attempt to weasel out of their mistake.

Furthermore you make false assertions like "before you repeat something as dumb as "Bobert is calling Harvard a liar""

Where and when did I say that Jack?

Whom is correct about using the term "somewhat agree or somewhat disagree" is it Harvard or Bobert? Is that calling Bobert a liar?

When have I ever called anybody a liar? I think it is a crude low class uncivilized term.

Bobert has used the term somewhat agree himself yet he says "Somewhat agree" and "somewhat disagree" are the same...

So why would Bobert use the term?

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 15 Sep 12 - 09:59 PM

He's pulling your leg dog. :-)

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 15 Sep 12 - 09:43 PM

Yo, your Honor...

I'd just enter Sawz last post as Exhibit #379 that he needs to be institutionalized...

Your cooperation will be appreciated, your Honor...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Sawzaw
Date: 15 Sep 12 - 09:35 PM

"Bogus polling... Any college Stats instructor would point that out right away"

The Washington Post
1. Do you approve or disapprove of the way Barack Obama is handling his job as president? Do you approve/disapprove strongly or somewhat?

Harvard.edu
Regardless of how you voted on Ballot Question
1, please tell us if you agree or disagree with the
following statements:
4."The Commonwealth of Massachusetts can
reduce its annual spending by 40% without a
major impact on the services it provides."
___Strongly agree
___Somewhat agree
___Somewhat disagree
___Disagree strongly


___ Strongly agree
___ Somewhat agree
___ Somewhat disagree
___ Strongly disagree

apsu.edu Evaluating Course Delivery
"A teaching style that worked best for you as a student wouldn't necessarily work best for most students."

A. strongly agree
B. somewhat agree
C. somewhat disagree
D. strongly disagree

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Sep 12 - 03:31 PM

Yup, Jts... You got him pegged...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 14 Sep 12 - 02:16 PM

Bobert, old buddy,

I think you give him to much credit?

"I have also presented several examples of universities like Harvard, Yale and MIT surveys that use the two terms."

It appears that he is saying that Harvard, Yale and MIT are examples of universities. Which is true.

Then he appears to be saying that the whole of each university uses these things universally. Which is far from true.

Then he implies that since someone in the university uses these things then that proves that your criticism of his use of them makes you a liar.

This is such confused and silly balderdash that it makes it very difficult to find the lie.

To prove that it was a lie, you have to first determine whether or not he has said anything. I don't think that he has. He has tossed out a lot of words. Some of them with some credibility, for example "Yale." But how can it be a lie when it isn't even a coherent English sentence?

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Sep 12 - 01:17 PM

Thanks, JtS...

Sawz can't help himself... He is literally obsessed with me... I mean, debilitatingly so... He tries on occasion to follow the "12 steps" but it never lasts and then he's back at spending hours a day going through all my old writing pulling things completely out of context thinking that I'm going to fall for his bait..

I don't have hours and hours to play his games so I purdy much tell him to fuck off and go about my business...

BTW, as you know, Jack, taking stuff out of context is a form of lying... You know that... I know that... Any college educated person knows that... Sawz still doesn't get it...

And the beat goes on...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 14 Sep 12 - 12:01 AM

Sure I have lots to contribute! Thanks for asking.

I have two questions.

What is your interest in music?

Do you do anything but pick fights with liberals to make yourself look dumb. And keep in mind that getting one over on Bobert once in a while, which you think you have done now, is a hardly a victory because he plays dumb for humor and obviously lets you have most of your victories. Whether it is out of pity or to keep you coming around for more humiliation?? It is hard to say.

BTW There is not a light of light of day between "Partly agree and partly disagree." They are both slight deviations from a point of agree. It is pretty much the same as partly cloudy. Either there are clouds in the sky or there are no clouds in the sky. It is cloudy or not cloudy Either there is something in the glass or there is not. It is empty or it is not. Either you agree or you do not. "Partly agree" Party disagree are touchy feely emotional mumbo jumbo. My skin crawls a little every time someone asks me that.

Here is some proof for you that everyone who has read one of your posts is sure to appreciate. Have you ever partly agreed with one of Bobert's posts? Have you ever partly disagreed?   Not that I have seen. It just doesn't work that way. Does it?

Please before you repeat something as dumb as "Bobert is calling Harvard a liar" learn something about how and why those questions are worded that way. I'll bet you Bobert could teach you. He has worked in the social sciences. ;-)

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he is giving you this one.

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Sawzaw
Date: 13 Sep 12 - 11:21 PM

Do you have anything to contribute Jack, or do you just want to argue?

Ebbie:

You seem like a nice, open person so I will explain.

Bobert takes the two descriptions somewhat agree and somewhat disagree and proceeds to equate them to glass half full or half empty or partly cloudy / partly sunny.

That is a false analogy. The proper analogy would be a glass more than half full and a glass less than half full or mostly sunny or mostly cloudy.

He uses the same "somewhat agree" statement in other posts so it must be a proper description of something if he uses it.

I have also presented several examples of universities like Harvard, Yale and MIT surveys that use the two terms.

Either Bobert is wrong or the universities are wrong but he won't say.

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 13 Sep 12 - 05:46 PM

See, the difference between us, GfinS, is that as a white man playing blues like black folks mused to play it that opens up discussions that you can't have... I can... It ain't bigoted to talk about the blues and history and race... These things are intertwined with what I do... The stories I tell when I perform are part of out history... No bigotry... Just reality... Ya' see, a white boy with so much black culture in me I see things differently than most white people... That don't make anyone better or worse... Just different...

I mean, Obama gave an excellent speech on race 4 years ago during the Rev Wright Swift-boating and I thought he it went well...

A frank discussion of race, and out history, is way overdue...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Sep 12 - 03:44 PM

"who owns the 'corporate owned media'"

Corporations?

LOL!!!

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 13 Sep 12 - 02:11 PM

OK BOBERT!!!

Music reaches far more people than politics..being as it goes to their humanity!!
Politics is a way of manipulating people AWAY from their humanity, to fit the agenda of the controllers at the top.
Music doesn't have to "hold back the sea, it only has to be!"

The MORE you get into the music, the more obvious it becomes, that deception has uneven rhythms!!!!!

..and that is the ONLY point where you and I have differed! I'm NOT a political cat...(sorta like a pole cat!)..it stinks to high heavens!

...and Bobert-Babes..remember that piece of mine you called 'Delicious'?
Right wingers liked it too!...and some black musicians were in awe of it!

Picking a side cuts your audience in half..and why do that, when there are so many hearts to touch...so many lives to change, and reinforce the good things that live within!!

Regards, you Ol' Coot!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Sep 12 - 12:54 PM

"If he said Chet Atkins was lousy and BB King was great I would take his word for it. He would know better than I."

Do you have ANY musical interest or knowledge or do you just come here to argue?

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Sawzaw
Date: 13 Sep 12 - 12:24 PM

Ebbie: Please read my previous posts.

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Ebbie
Date: 13 Sep 12 - 12:15 PM

SZ, weather forecasters say 'Partly sunny or Partly cloudy'. 'Mostly sunny or Mostly cloudy'. In real life what does that mean to you?

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Sawzaw
Date: 13 Sep 12 - 11:03 AM

I am not questioning Bobert's Musical talents.

If he said Chet Atkins was lousy and BB King was great I would take his word for it. He would know better than I.

It is his obtuse political, racial, bigoted, conflicted, biased statements That I criticize. In his last post the had to keep identifying black and white people as if that means something.

But when he claims that I am wrong in some fact that I can support and he can't, That he is more educated than I am which automatically makes him right, I can question him on it like he does to others.

He believes other people need to prove what they say but he doesn't have to.

I am invoking the same rights as Bobert.

I am sorry Bobert but when you state something that is not true, I will call you on it and you can do the same to me.

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Sep 12 - 10:50 AM

They got it. They're keepin it.
Yep I know how they feel about it.
They are positive that
The rich deserve your wealth.



They have words to describe the middle class:

bottom feeders
dead peasants
undeserving poor
leeches
parasites
radicals
needless eaters


they gotta million ofem

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 13 Sep 12 - 10:26 AM

With ya' on that last point, GfinS... I've performed twice in the last 5 days... Now, where as I have never felt that it was professional to mix in "overt" politics with performing it does allow me to interact with people afterwards...

I played before an exclusively white audience Tuesday night up in Concord, NC but had met this fine black women/blues singers at a festival last Saturday and asked her if she would accompany me on a song at the Tuesday night gig...

I was the 4th performer and the first 3 were all white boys playing the same old- same old Chicago style blues... That's fine... I ain't got no problems with that... That is reality when it comes to the blues scene...

Then I got my chance and as I was mezmorizing them with the hard rhythm coming out of my Lowebow I was talking about where the blues came from... Lotta people are either clueless or in denial... No matter... I had their attention 'cause, unlike the 3 bands before me, they turned their chairs and barstools so they could get a good look at what I was doing... Then I called up my new friend, Maddie McCoy, and between the two of us we took folks back the juke joints and gave them something else to think about other than the same Chicago style 12 bar pablum...

Afterwards, at least a dozen folks came up to me telling me how much they enjoyed that Mississippi style music... When I perform that always happens and I love making those personal contacts because now it's one-on-one and there are things you can say one-on-one that ain't stage material... Know what I mean???

B~

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Sawzaw
Date: 13 Sep 12 - 10:01 AM

Go ahead and call them Bobert, but use the correct number.

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 13 Sep 12 - 09:59 AM

Bobert: "As for "accountability", I blame the corporate owned media for not asking the tough questions ...."

Well you got that mostly right...except one thing....who owns the 'corporate owned media'....and how much 'other' stuff have they gotten YOU to believe??

One more thought to give consideration to...Who else do those people own? Party 'leaders'?..and half the crap that otherwise good and caring citizens are led to believe...to the point of dividing us?? You? Sawzaw?..(Even though Sawzaw HAS posted some accurate stuff!..even if it is 'unpopular' with liberal thinking).

The way I figure it, is music, at least the music I'm focused on, reaches the hearts of PEOPLE..regardless of 'said affiliations'...because there is something down deeper that we all have in common. Speak to that, and as it grows, the ones who are corrupting the public's thinking will be losing their grip...as the people are fed, and reminded, and entertained...and not with political divisive rhetoric...as per aforementioned, 'I'm not with the party..I'm with the band!'
'T is a noble calling, we musicians!'

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 13 Sep 12 - 09:43 AM

1-800-BETTYFORD...

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Sawzaw
Date: 13 Sep 12 - 09:42 AM

No. Just the "men" that hide behind them.

Bobert needs to present something to support his "somewhat agree = somewhat disagree" assertion or admit it was wrong. Otherwise he looses his credibility. He calls it a game. I call it intellectual honesty.

He hounded the shit out of Tbus over the war in Iraq but he believes nobody can question him.

Words have consequences. Bobert does not want to be responsible for what he said. Tia is an enabler.

Does Tia agree that "somewhat agree = somewhat disagree"?

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 13 Sep 12 - 09:23 AM

Hey, GfinS... You doing okay??? You ain't sneaking no smokes, are ya'??? You walkin' yer 2 miles??? Don't make me come out there and walk you like an ol' dog 'cause I will...

As for "coppin' out"??? Nah, I have shredded every juvenile-istic argument that Saws has thrown up here... He's just back to his little OCD stuff which, frankly, I find not worth my time... You shred one and he just picks another one to shred... No thanks...

As for "accountability", I blame the corporate owned media for not asking the tough questions like "What the hell is your plan for the economy?"...

Obama says "Steady as she goes" and Romney says "I'm a job creator"...

These are bogus answers that mean absolutely nothing... I think it's time that these guys have to answer the question... Maybe in the debates???

Nah...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 13 Sep 12 - 09:22 AM

Got a problem with girls misogynist asshole?

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 13 Sep 12 - 09:14 AM

Awww..Don't go for a cheap cop out, Bobert, you're better than that. Just go for the facts, and let the chips fall where they fall. You didn't set Obama's, or the Democratic agenda(nor the Republicans)..but something sure ain't right, with both of them, and the inconsistencies, of both these OWNED groups, should be addressed, and SOMEBODY or SOMEONES accountability should be found out, and held accountable... don't you think?? (Not if they can keep us from doing it).

Love ya',

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 13 Sep 12 - 09:04 AM

TIA is right...You're games bore me, Saws...

If you need a case of jollies go beat off...

Bye...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Sawzaw
Date: 13 Sep 12 - 08:36 AM

So Bobert needs Girls to protect him?

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 13 Sep 12 - 08:17 AM

Nah.
He's just got better things to do than participate in your horseshit antics.

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 13 Sep 12 - 12:59 AM

Even if one made a shitload of money off it??...Even got 'rich'....Does he deserve it?

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Ebbie
Date: 13 Sep 12 - 12:43 AM

"Is this question sorta like, If I write lyrics, and compose a great piece of music, should I be entitled to the Rights, and Royalties??"

Wa'al, danged. I'll answer it. No. It is nothing like that, not even sorta.

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 13 Sep 12 - 12:23 AM

Once again I ask.....(though hypocrites with double standards, hate to answer it)....:

RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth

Let's not shift the main topic THIS TIME!!..So I repeat:

Is this question sorta like, If I write lyrics, and compose a great piece of music, should I be entitled to the Rights, and Royalties??

Just wondering...



GfS

P.S. I'm only here tonight only...

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Stringsinger
Date: 09 Sep 12 - 10:57 AM

This is a misleading question because I doubt anyone would poll favorably to the misuse of wealth and power. Wealthy people who arrive at their condition through honest labor
would be part of that 58%, not the speculative, hedge-fund hogs, bloated CEOs, equity firms that bankrupt the companies they acquire and leave workers holding the debts to the banksters, and out-of-control energy companies and the Pentagon.

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 08 Sep 12 - 09:43 PM

Corporate America has given up on trying to gain access to Obama... That's why all those folks who made donations in '08 aren't making them anymore... Even George Soros has pulled back...

Ya'll might not want to give any credit to Obama for this but he has ended the pay-to-play ball games... But he gets no credit for that "CHANGE"... No, just criticism for not taking payola???

B~

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Sep 12 - 08:58 PM

I agree that the Republicans are worse. I agree that there appears to be no viable alternative for Americans (to vote for) other than the Democrats at this juncture. Happy now?

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Don Firth
Date: 08 Sep 12 - 07:16 PM

Of course Corporate America is trying to gain control over the Democratic Party. That's not in dispute. They already have a solid grasp on the Republican Party (in fact, many Republicans are members of Corporate America). But they don't have as solid a grasp on the Democrats as they would like, due to politicians such as my local Congressional Representative, Jim McDermott, and a fair number of others I could list.

This is why I support the Democratic Party as best as I can.

Sad to say, but true, there are no VIABLE alternatives.

Many Democrats are working like beavers to get the amendment declaring Corporations to be "people" rescinded. I don't know of any Republicans who are doing that!

To say that both parties are equally corrupt and there is no point in supporting either one is a) not accurate, and it is b) defeatist. Just exactly what Corporate America wants you to think!

As I have said a number of times, the rumor "You can't fight City Hall" was STARTED by City Hall! Think about it!

What Liberals need to do is get off their butts and get to work!!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Sep 12 - 06:43 PM

Yes, of course they do, Don T., and I object to it just as strenuously as you do. That was my point. I was not making any personal comment about Don Firth at all, merely commenting on a popular figure of speech that I don't like very much, and saying something about the prevailing culture that gave birth to that figure of speech.

I am paying attention, and we appear to enthusiastically agree about both the GOP and Corporate America.

(We just disagree to some extent about the Democrats. I think Corporate America runs them too. Unlike the Republicans, though, they don't act as if they were proud of it. That wouldn't please their support base.)