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BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth

Little Hawk 01 Oct 12 - 10:37 PM
Bobert 01 Oct 12 - 07:23 PM
Jack the Sailor 01 Oct 12 - 07:21 PM
Little Hawk 01 Oct 12 - 07:15 PM
Bobert 01 Oct 12 - 07:00 PM
Jack the Sailor 01 Oct 12 - 06:46 PM
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Bobert 30 Sep 12 - 08:22 PM
GUEST,Chongo Chimp 30 Sep 12 - 07:06 PM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 30 Sep 12 - 06:07 PM
Don Firth 30 Sep 12 - 04:59 PM
GUEST,Chongo Chimp 30 Sep 12 - 12:24 PM
Sawzaw 30 Sep 12 - 09:02 AM
Jack the Sailor 29 Sep 12 - 02:20 PM
GUEST,Chongo Chimp 29 Sep 12 - 12:29 PM
Jack the Sailor 29 Sep 12 - 11:29 AM
Bobert 29 Sep 12 - 11:19 AM
Sawzaw 29 Sep 12 - 10:40 AM
Stringsinger 29 Sep 12 - 10:32 AM
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Jack the Sailor 29 Sep 12 - 09:51 AM
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GUEST,999 29 Sep 12 - 07:59 AM
Little Hawk 29 Sep 12 - 12:33 AM
Bobert 28 Sep 12 - 04:12 PM
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Jack the Sailor 28 Sep 12 - 10:57 AM
Bobert 28 Sep 12 - 08:58 AM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 28 Sep 12 - 05:17 AM
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Bobert 27 Sep 12 - 08:59 PM
GUEST,Chongo Chimp 27 Sep 12 - 08:19 PM
Bobert 27 Sep 12 - 08:04 PM
GUEST,Chongo Chimp 27 Sep 12 - 07:48 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Oct 12 - 10:37 PM

It seems like a pointless game to me, guys. A game for meatheads. I remember being forced to play it a few times in high school gym class, and I hated it. I'd rather have been sucking on an old shoe, frankly.

However, my friend Raptor absolutely LOVES the Forty-Niners. He has Forty-Niners memorabilia all over his house. That's why I made a pun based on their name. He sometimes calls them the "Forty Winos" when he's joking...but the "Forty Whiners" sounds more like their real name, cos it has the "ers" sound at the end.

As for Chongo, he's not much into football. It's gorillas who really go for football, generally. Chimps much prefer baseball. Chongo is an old White Sox fan. He was beside himself with joy when they finally won the World Series in 2005.


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Oct 12 - 07:23 PM

Chongz's book would be three pages with no pics, LH... Man, you are pathetic... No, make that 58% pathetic...

B;~)


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 01 Oct 12 - 07:21 PM

Well then Little Hawk, thank you for your invaluable contribution to the conversation about American football.


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Oct 12 - 07:15 PM

If everything I know about (American) football were put into a book, it would be about a page and a half long. ;-) With LARGE type. And one or two pictures.


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Oct 12 - 07:00 PM

Yeah, fullbacks are paid to run the ball... And block for tailbacks...

QBs ain't...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 01 Oct 12 - 06:46 PM

Cam and the defense. 59 yard pass.... sigh.... I would have had Tolbert run it though.


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Oct 12 - 03:55 PM

How are the Forty Whiners doing these days?


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Sep 12 - 09:47 PM

And what's with Cam???

Blew that game...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 30 Sep 12 - 09:36 PM

The Panthers got a guy from the CFL. He is doing OK. There are more kickers up there and I am sure they would rather have hard currency than Canadian Tire money.


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Sep 12 - 08:22 PM

Fuck this thread... I am still tryin' to get over the Redskins/Bucs game... So, the 'Skins go and get a failuer of a kicker from Baltimore... No, worse than that... He sucked so bad there that they fired him... So what to do???

Huh???

So the brilliant brain trust in the Redskins office say, "Hey, lets get this flunkie"...

So he misses the first 3 field goal attempts this afternoon and the game came down to a final kick... I was thinking, "This guy is going to miss so bad that it might end up out of bounds or in my back yard but...

...he finally made one...

Redskins win... Or didn't lose...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 30 Sep 12 - 07:06 PM

And if there were, it would be a friggin' disaster.

- Chongo


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 30 Sep 12 - 06:07 PM

""Which Stats professor designed the NPR poll that combined strongly agree and somewhat agree? He must have had an opinion that is different from Bobert's opinion.""

Are you really dim enough to think that all these polls are compiled and managed by stats professors Sawz?

There aren't that many stats professors in the world!

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Don Firth
Date: 30 Sep 12 - 04:59 PM

Jayzuz!! I just spent about twenty minutes scanning through this thread!

I'll never get THAT twenty minutes back again! I coulda taken a short nap!!

Don Firth

P. S. Kinda reminded me of the times I click on something on my computer and the little thingy goes round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round. . . .

. . . and the program never does load and I have to hit the "Reset" button.


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 30 Sep 12 - 12:24 PM

I would choose the bigger one, dependin' on condition, of course. If the bigger one is somewhat bruised and the other one is undamaged, I might choose the smaller one. See...chimps can discern the finer differences between things and choose wisely, unlike humans who usually fall into predictable reflex behaviour of the silliest sort...like votin' for either the Democrats or the Republicans time and time again when both of 'em have disappointed over and over again in the past. Would a chimp be that dumb to keep playin' that same old, tired game? No way. A chimp would say, "The hell with these bozos!" and find a whole new solution. And that's where the APP comes in.

Just one simple example: America needs jobs, right? And everyone wants an equal chance to enjoy the fruits of a good life, right? Okay...so here's our proposal. We are gonna move some of the Rocky Mountains into the flatter parts of the country, like the MidWest. People get bored livin' in flat places, and that ain't fair. Everyone should get to look at a few mountains now and then to spice up the view. Okay...so movin' them mountains will be a huge job...one that will provide work for every unemployed person in the USA for at least the next 10 years.

You won't see the Big 2 parties makin' a proposal like that. They don't have the guts to!

But we chimps are not afraid to advance a radical plan to put America back to work, see? Vote for the APP in November and put a REAL chimp in the White House for a change, instead of a man in a suit who just pretends to be as bright as the average chimp!

- Chongo


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Sawzaw
Date: 30 Sep 12 - 09:02 AM

Here's part of a 'nanner for you Chongz.

Actually two partial 'nanners but one is more than half of a 'nanner the other is less than half of a 'nanner. You can choose either.

Will you choose the somewhat bigger one or the somewhat smaller one?

Oho, you chose the bigger one. Even chimps can tell the difference.

Somewhat does not confuse them at all.


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 29 Sep 12 - 02:20 PM

Take off! Bushmeat!


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 29 Sep 12 - 12:29 PM

Bobertz? Okay, I have decided I am gonna talk to you again, cos it would not be fair to deny you the benefit of my great wisdom and experience, you bein' just a poor human hillbilly that is in need of help and advice from a higher species...

Now, regardin' you gettin' a share of Charlie's bonus money which is buildin' up into a real nice sum here....well...hmmm. The question is, do ya deserve it? Then too, if I give you a share I might be obliged to give Jack and Sawzaw a share too, seein' as how they are major contributors to the general hoo-hah here, same as you are.

That would leave a lot less for me. I'm not sure it makes sense from my end to do that.

The real question is, what have you done for me lately? I know Jack and Sawzaw ain't done a damn thing for me lately (if ever), so I can easily give them the kissoff without no hesitation or regrets, but what about you, Bobertz?

- Chongo


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 29 Sep 12 - 11:29 AM

What do we do with a drunk coyote?
What do we do with a drunk coyote?
What do we do with a drunk coyote?
On Mudcat in the morning?

Who sticks out his leg in a reckless manner
Who sticks out his leg in a reckless manner
Who sticks out his leg in a reckless manner
To be pulled by a roadrunner!


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 29 Sep 12 - 11:19 AM

I used to do that song in the 70s... Great song...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Sawzaw
Date: 29 Sep 12 - 10:40 AM

And Jack is Bobert's water boy.

Good morning captain
Well, good morning to you s-i-i-i-r
Do you need another mule skinner?
Down on your new mud run?
Ha-ha, ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha
Hey-hey-hey-heeee-hee, he-he-he-he-he
He-he-he-he-he-he, he-he-he-he-he-he

Well, I'm an ol' mule skinner (yeah, you are)
Down from ol' Kentucky w-a-a-a-y
And I can make any mule listen
Or I won't accept your pay
He-he, hey-hey-hey-hey-hey-hey
Ha-ha, ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha
Hey-hey-hey-heeee-hee, he-he-he-he-he
He-he-he-he-he-he, he-he-he-he-he-he
Yeah!

Well, hey (hey) little waterboy
Who wants that waterboy, man?
Bring the buck-buck-bucket down
Weah-weah, ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha
Well, if you don't like your job
Then put the buck-buck-bucket down
Ha-ha, ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha
Hey-hey-hey-heeee-hee, he-he-he-he-he
He-he-he-he-he-he, he-he-he-he-he-he
Cha-cha-cha


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Stringsinger
Date: 29 Sep 12 - 10:32 AM

The issue is not that there are wealthy people. The issue is the exploitation of those who are not wealthy through the rich tax avoidance and in inordinate lobbying by corporate interests who buy and sell our government. Democracy is being bought and sold. hat's the issue.


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 29 Sep 12 - 10:08 AM

BTW, Chongz...

Just because you ain't talkin' to me does not absolve you of your agreement to cut me in on the bonus money from Charlie...

B:~)


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 29 Sep 12 - 10:02 AM

Beep, beep...

B;~)


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 29 Sep 12 - 09:51 AM

Bobert is pulling your leg. You keep sticking it out.

You are the coyote.

He is the roadrunner.


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Sawzaw
Date: 29 Sep 12 - 09:40 AM

Here it is in writing:


Yo, Retard alum...

"Somewhat agree" and "somewhat disagree" are the same...


This is not correct. It is wrong. Bobert is wrong.

Let him present something to support his claim.

And it's not based on just my opinion but the opinion of stats professors in general

His opinion of Stats professors opinions. How many does he know? He talks as if he knows a lot of them and has discussed the subject with them. He has a bad habit of projecting his opinions on others.

Which Stats professor designed the NPR poll that combined strongly agree and somewhat agree? He must have had an opinion that is different from Bobert's opinion.

The Self Righteous Bobert can't produce anything to support his claims except bloviation.


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: GUEST,999
Date: 29 Sep 12 - 07:59 AM

How fortuitous. I was looking for a place to dump kitty litter and voila.

Good day to buy a lottery ticket.


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Sep 12 - 12:33 AM

Heh! (snort!) I knew you'd be really broken up about it.


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Sep 12 - 04:12 PM

Get it in writing, LH...

B;~)


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Sep 12 - 12:11 PM

Could you elaborate a little on that theme, Jack?

****

Well, Bobert, you've done it THIS time! Chongo is so angry that he says he's not talking to you.


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 28 Sep 12 - 10:57 AM

Question: Is Sawzaw bonkers?

A. Somewhat agree
B. Partly agree
C. Whole heartedly agree
D. Part heartedly agree
E. Most heartily agree.
F. Without reservations agree
G. With a reservation to a trendy restaurant agree
H. In principle, agree
I. With no principles, agree
J. With Principal agree
K. With PTA agree
L. Strongly agree
M. Totally agree
N. Absolutely agree
O. Agree to infinity
P. Agree to infinity minus one
Q. Agree to infinity minus two.
R. Agree to infinity minus one and a half
S. Somewhat partly agree
T. Indifferently Agree
U. Minutely Agree
V. Arguably Agree (expected to be the most popular Mudcat Response)
W. Respectfully Agree (expected to be the least popular Mudcat Response)
X. What was the question again?
Y. Oh yeah, "Is sawz a nutjob?"
Z. Agree


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Sep 12 - 08:58 AM

Nah, Don...

I'm bored...

Plus, trying to use logic on the mentally challenged is futile...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 28 Sep 12 - 05:17 AM

Christ, give me friggin' strength.

Here we go again.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Sawzaw
Date: 27 Sep 12 - 09:22 PM

"That is the part Bobert is objecting to"

No. What Bobert is claiming is that somewhat agree means the same as somewhat disagree and hinging his "bogus" claim on that.

"Yo, Retard alum...

"Somewhat agree" and "somewhat disagree" are the same..."


They are not, Bobert is wrong. This is oblivious because in the examples of polls I have provided that added somewhat agree" and somewhat disagree to get a total of agree.

He has made a fool of himself by trying to change his claim so he can weasel out.

Bobert cannot see the difference because he, like George W, is incapable of looking at anything in any manner but black and white, good and evil, right and wrong...

Evidently Bobert got his diploma at Cracker Jacks U. and doesn't know jack shit about polls. He was nodding off and having hallucinations while the professor was explaining the difference between "Somewhat agree" and "somewhat disagree".

Otherwise he could produce something to back up his claim besides bloviation.

How about an example of a poll that adds things up your way Bobert?

It would be a simple thing to do for a highly educated person like you.


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Sep 12 - 08:59 PM

I can all but hear LH tellin' you what to write 'cause you wouldn't know what squarin' numbers is about than quantum physics... Ask LH what that means...

Like I said, "Go grind yer organ"...

BTW, square this!!!

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 27 Sep 12 - 08:19 PM

Here's what I know about math, Bobertz. Put 2 morons together in one place, and the amount of trouble they will cause together is considerably more than the mere sum of their separate individual levels of idiocy. Figger it more like the square of their respective levels of idiocy. See what I'm gettin' at?

- Chongo


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Sep 12 - 08:04 PM

Go grind your organ, Chongz...

You know less about math than Sawz but, hey??? That ain't sayin' nothin'...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 27 Sep 12 - 07:48 PM

You callin' me stupid, Bobertz? You can't even tell the difference between an ape and a monkey, fer Chrissake! How stupid is that??? I've seen dogs that had more sense.

Anyways, it's impossible to be 100% in disagreement with anyone. I can vouch for this, cos I can recall a few things I have agreed with you about now and then over the years. Look at it this way...even a watch that don't work is still right twice a day.

- Chongo


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Sep 12 - 07:42 PM

Evidence that monkey's ain't taught math...

No, Chongz... We are in 100% disagreement and 0% agreement...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 27 Sep 12 - 07:10 PM

Look on the bright side, Bobertz. Yer 58% in agreement with each other! ;-) And that's plenty enough to win an election. In fact, it would be called "a landslide".

- Chongo


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Sep 12 - 04:52 PM

BTW, Don... Sawz and I started off with a 42% difference and we're still at a 42% difference...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Sep 12 - 02:28 PM

Should have never been opened...

B;~)


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 27 Sep 12 - 12:47 PM

I'm afraid your down home locution is simply confusing poor old Sawz, but I can't help feeling that you two are not that terribly far apart in your thinking on this subject, and gradually (too gradually?) homing in on the same end.

I "somewhat" believe this thread is ready for closing, not by moderation, but by all round consent.

What d'ye say guys?

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Sep 12 - 09:00 AM

Thank you, Don...

That's the point I have made over and over... And it's not based on just my opinion but the opinion of stats professors in general...

When you read stuff like "data can be simplified..." then hide your wallet and cover your ears because someone is either trying to steal your money or clog up your head with misinformation...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 27 Sep 12 - 06:35 AM

""Data can be simplified by combining categories. For example, strongly agree and agree can be collapsed into one category (agree) while disagree and strongly disagree can be collapsed into another category (disagree).""

That is the part Bobert is objecting to, and IMHO he is right. It is of course VERY acceptable to the person who commissions the poll with an agenda, and the polling company which can thereby combine, or not combine, to achieve the desired result, which is then reported to the public, without information as to how it has been achieved.

Much, in fact, as Sawz did when he typed the thread title.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Sawzaw
Date: 27 Sep 12 - 01:28 AM

Bobert is the guy that knows he is wrong. His ego is in complete control of him so he can't admit it. He can't even say how I am wrong.

http://www.cdc.gov/healthyyouth/evaluation/pdf/brief23.txt

EVALUATION BRIEFS        No. 23 | July 2011        Evaluation Technical Assistance

Using Ordered Response Options To Collect Evaluation Data

This brief focuses on using ordered response options to collect evaluation data. It includes the definition of ordered response options; how to create good sets of options; how to analyze and present data collected from them; and advantages and disadvantages of using them on evaluation surveys.

If you decide to include a neutral option such as neither agree nor disagree, place this choice in the middle of the other options. The order of the responses should reflect a logical flow on the continuum as shown in the following example:
1.        Strongly agree.
2.        Somewhat agree.
3.        Neither agree nor disagree.
4.        Somewhat disagree.
5.        Strongly disagree.

Analyzing the Responses and Presenting the Results

When reporting the results from ordered response options, only report the number or percentage of people who chose an option and compare it to other option results.

Data can be simplified by combining categories. For example, strongly agree and agree can be collapsed into one category (agree) while disagree and strongly disagree can be collapsed into another category (disagree).


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Sep 12 - 09:10 PM

Agreed, LH...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Sep 12 - 11:31 AM

Do the poor deserve their poverty? Republicans seem to think so! I get the impression they'd really like to just imprison them all, deport them, or perhaps seek a more immediate and "final solution" to the problem.

Look at what happened after Hurricane Katrina, for example.


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 26 Sep 12 - 09:32 AM

500!!!

500 points of bitter inanity!

Oh the humanity!

Worse than Sean Hannity!


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: Sawzaw
Date: 26 Sep 12 - 09:29 AM

"after he knows he's wrong..."

Wrong about what Bobert?

"So, pdq... You don't want to answer my two simple questions???"

So Bobert... You don't want to answer a simple question???


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Subject: RE: BS: 58% Say The Rich Deserve Their Wealth
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Sep 12 - 01:30 AM

Yeah, I gotta admit it wasn't as funny as 'Hope and Change'.......

GfS


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