BS: Militant Atheism Threads

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 02:59 PM

Huge difference between Whacko and ol' fruit. One is similar to Jerk the Sea Cadet, Seaman Stains, Master Bates etc, the other is a friendly term when speaking in the old colloquial. Just out of interest, assuming Jack's interpretation of "rules" for a moment; there is nothing wrong with "Yankee imperialism" as it is in the abstract. Although if the cap fits ....

Fascinated as ever with the "sex for reproduction" nonsense. Viz magazine may he of help for those of that absurd belief.

"Beer! Helping ugly people have sex since 1847".

Anyone with the poster may correct me regarding the arbitrary date.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 12:13 PM

"don't be such a po-faced ol' git" then!

You are free to be anything you want EXCEPT unkind, impolite, argumentative, snooty, or either FOR or AGAINST that of-what-we-do-not-speak.

"yankee imperialism "

You are free to be anything you want EXCEPT unkind, impolite, argumentative, snooty, or either FOR or AGAINST that of-what-we-do-not-speak.

"If you don't know what "ol' fruit" means, look it up!"

You are free to be anything you want EXCEPT unkind, impolite, argumentative, snooty, or either FOR or AGAINST that of-what-we-do-not-speak.

There is no doubt in any member's mind that you intended "ol' fruit" as an insult. This is the same silly game that you play where you take the word out of context to argue.

You used "ol' fruit" to refer to Bill in exactly the same way that you used "whacko" to refer to me. I recall that you tried to tell me "Whacko" was not an insult some time ago. It is my impression that you will take any excuse to bicker and call people names.

But I enjoy pointing out how stupidly you are behaving. But for the good of the forum....

Please read and try to absorb the membership rules posted above.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 11:58 AM

the deranged gnome corrector

Not seen her yet. I like a bit of correction :-) Where is she?

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: GUEST,concerened
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 10:28 AM

Oh deary me..after getting two posts closed down the playground gobshites are at it again.

Now look here, i am an everyday sort of a chappess as sweetcheeks will tell you, wink wink, say no more!!

I have got a bit serious here Muskett 'cos of the likes of the unspeakable clown shaw and the like picking on poor old jack.I see the deranged gnome corrector has come out of his winter sleep to harangue the poor old mariner.

I am really with jack on this; why is it some on this site, akkenenton, the muff blandiver, shaw particularly with his "twat features" and "bastard" very low that: and can get away with using apropriose epithets like "fuck" with frequent impunity?

Not that i am really bothered but it does bring into question the rules?

"You are free to be anything you want EXCEPT unkind, impolite, argumentative, snooty, or either FOR or AGAINST that of-what-we-do-not-speak."

please discuss..I cant be bothered I have e some paint I want to watch dry.....

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 10:15 AM

Bill, I too think it was an insult. It was certainly disrespectful. It was designed to draw you into a favorite game of a few Englishmen on this forum; "The bickering over definitions game."

In my experience, it is easy to tell whether it is an insult or not. Did he apologize for the confusion? If he did it must have been in PM. If he didn't, he is still playing.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: akenaton
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 08:56 AM

Be in no doubt about whither or not it was an insult Bill.
It was indeed; it's what we term "condescension".

Not often used on this forum by Steven granted, but always lurking around somewhere.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 08:37 AM

I didn't assume anything, except that the poster of the terminology regularly does use language designed to be insulting... and I did use Google, as instructed. It gave me several variations which did not totally clarify his intent.... and none of that addressed my concern, which was why certain people feel the need to toss out language which NEEDS to be looked up and interpreted to determine how deeply one has been insulted... or not.


And them fags are bad for you, as is being outside in Winter, don't cha know? (No charge for the medical advice)


(I kinda miss Martin Gibson. Being from Chicago, there was ever any doubt when HE insulted you!)

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 05:32 AM

Just an observation here. How come these threads, which are ostensibly about religion and atheism, always turn to the subject of homosexuality?

Anyway, addressing Bill D's point. Yes, it is an international forum. So why would you assume 'my old fruit' has the same meaning in the UK as in your neck of the woods? Besides, Google is always to hand and I assume you are capable of using it. Now, I'm just nipping outside to roll a fag...

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: akenaton
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 04:27 AM

Jack, I thought we were discussing the original purpose of reproductive organs.....in relation to the species.

I know that most sexual intercourse is not to conceive children, but that is because we have worked out ways of stopping conception taking place.

If we had not worked out how to short circuit our natural functions, promiscuity would be less common.
That is not to say that I am against contraception, the human species has devolved to such an extent that contraception has become an absolute necessity to stop over population in confined areas, but with the benefits come the consequences. As society, and I must say the power of the church disintegrates, huge rates of promiscuity pertain, anything goes, and the most promiscuous sections of society are affected in epidemic proportions.

Blandriver lives in fairyland, or Mills and Boon Land, if he believes
the sort of sex being experienced by very many people today gives transcendental pleasure , or orgasmic delirium. Most of it is deeply exploitative, to say that "sex" is an end in itself, is foolish and
dangerous to individuals and the survival of our society.

Promiscuity is bad for all of us, that should be clear to everyone in this day and age.....Pope Benedict tried to make this very point, only to be howled down by the "liberal" media.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 03:25 AM

Sex is used, bought and sold joylessly, as a tool to exploit children, to sell all manner of consumables.

Sex is the core of our existence, and, as with most things in life, the vast majority of our species handle it pretty well, and have done so since the first primate got a hard-on circa 65myr. Since then it's EVOLVED to be all consuming - at least as we Happy Homo Sapiens are concerned. We wouldn't exist without it and it's pretty much the be all & end all of our short existence on this planet that defines our notions of beauty, joy, love, economics, art, music, culture, folklore, spirituality and holy communion. We are driven to fuck and to be fucked by the occult persuasions of a Nature which even now according to the Tabloid Theology of the Catholic Church regards is the work of Lucifer.

It MIGHT be argued that it was discovery of the causal links between Sexual Intercourse & Pregnancy that resulted in extreme patriarchy & the enslavement of women to ensure the purity of male bloodlines - after all, there is never ANY doubt who the mother of a child is, is there? This enslavement leads us to the sort of reactionary piffle that typifies your Average Ake Post (see above) in which his misinformed tabloid sensationalism goes into fevered overdrive on account of his faith in third-hand propagandist bullshit that only exists to sell papers & keep people too frightened to leave their homes.

Bad shit lurks therein, however : I'm sure we're all aware by now that in Russia Homosexuality and Paedophilia are synonymous. In many minds it's that way over here too. Reality (which includes Prostitution) is very different. Perhaps it's something Ake ought to look into (i.e. REALITY) to shine a bit of light into his white-washed tabloid tomb?

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 09:46 PM

>>From: Steve Shaw - PM
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 08:50 PM

Can any sane person believe that Ake and Wacko could really have engaged in the tosh contained in their last few posts? It truly defies belief! <<



You are free to be anything you want EXCEPT unkind, impolite, argumentative, snooty, or either FOR or AGAINST that of-what-we-do-not-speak.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 08:50 PM

Can any sane person believe that Ake and Wacko could really have engaged in the tosh contained in their last few posts? It truly defies belief!

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 07:16 PM

All of that is more or less true. But the fact is that most of the time people have sex it is not to have children.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: akenaton
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 06:57 PM

"To say people fuck to have kids is akin to saying people drive on motorways to die in RTAs.

Accidents will happen."

That must be one of the most cynical pieces of writing that I have ever seen on these pages.

Sex is used, bought and sold joylessly, as a tool to exploit children, to sell all manner of consumables.
Do you think sex between the prostitute and his/her client......"gives transcendent pleasure to the participants" or "deep instinctive sensual pleasuring to the point of orgasmic delirium (and beyond)?"

Promiscuity is destructive, to health and to society.
The vast majority pick their partners to produce children together, to continue their genetic line, to construct a family. It has always been thus.
A few chose not to have children, or sadly are unable to do so for medical reasons.....they are not lesser people for their choice, or their unfortunate circumstances, but they are none the less a very small minority; and if that minority ever becomes a majority, the human race is really in trouble

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 06:03 PM

Keep your eyes one the road buddy!!

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 06:02 PM

Don't be stupid. Since the 70 limit motorways are unsuitable for recreation - unless you know anywhere there are no cameras or Q-cars. I know a few places there are are no cameras, useful for testing boost adjustments. I also know the two most commonly seen Q-cars round here - a boy racer SEAT Leo Cupra and a HUGE BMW 4WD.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 05:43 PM

"To say people fuck to have kids is akin to saying people drive on motorways to die in RTAs."

Your analogy but I think you could take it a tad further,

Isn't it more like the reason we have the motorways is so that the ambulances can take us to hospitals to have our kids?

We do have motorways for that reason but that is no reason why we can't use them for recreation.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 04:03 PM

To say that Reproduction is at best a random by product of sexual intercourse is extreme foolishness,

No it isn't. I have two kids and yet I can't count the amount if times I've have sex even in the last twenty years (neither of my children were conceived in that time; I had a Vasectomy in 1993). The same is true of everyone who is sexually active, Gay or Straight - we do it to have mutual joyful fun with someone who turns us on, otherwise, what cultural need of contraception?

To say people fuck to have kids is akin to saying people drive on motorways to die in RTAs.

Accidents will happen.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 03:01 PM

>>From: Steve Shaw - PM
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 02:12 PM

"vilifying others in the name of Darwin"

That's interesting! Give me one example of that. I've never seen it, ever. And stop worrying about me. I'm fine. It's chune and beer night! <<

Why do I see this post where you are clearly upset about what I posted? Enjoy your beer. Don't worry about me.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 02:55 PM

Akenaton, My apologies. I was concerned that you may have been posting in the context of and the title of the thread :-) I, at least, felt obligated to eliminate that possibility.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 02:55 PM

Look at what the imported religions have done to Africa.

Why is it that you god-botherers have no shame?

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: akenaton
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 02:41 PM

Well I'm certainly not going to replay that thread over again.
It's in the archive for anyone to read, I of course stand by everything I said, and I certainly believe Blandriver is associated with another abusive poster on that thread.
To say that Reproduction is at best a random by product of sexual intercourse is extreme foolishness, sex can be used in various unhealthy ways, especially commercially, but reproduction determines the survival of the species.
Jack....I never said the thread was closed because I requested it, what I said was that two posts were kindly removed at my request.

I have kept copies of these.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 02:12 PM

"vilifying others in the name of Darwin"

That's interesting! Give me one example of that. I've never seen it, ever. And stop worrying about me. I'm fine. It's chune and beer night!

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 01:28 PM

"I had a look at the link. A rather hysterical Facebook sight which is most definitely NOT my idea o' fun!"

Fair enough,


There are plenty of atheists on this forum. Only a couple of them are militant. They are not much fun either. I think you might appreciate that their same tired repetition of the same insults and jokes is tiresome. At least the people on that Facebook forum are proud to be vilifying others in the name of Darwin, or whatever rather than running away from their beliefs when asked to admit that they have them.

I don't have much problem with what you said to Ake above, it is a proportional rebuttal to his comments. A little bit of sharpness in your commentary, sticking to criticism of his words and actions, stopping well short of calling him "the worm" seems like a good balance to me. I congratulate you for finding that balance and showing the proper respect for the rules.

I don't agree with you Ake if you are saying the other Militant Atheism Threads were closed because you requested that. The reason given was the bickering. Lord knows there was plenty of that in those threads for pretty much the whole duration of both of the threads which were closed.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 01:12 PM

I'm with Jack on the "beneath contempt" line.

I'd add accusing those who dismiss his bigotry and homophobia of posting in names of others. Best bit is that then someone abuses membership knowledge to back the worm up!

Just in case anyone is interested, Akenaton thinks I am a guest called Seaham Cemetry. Well I'm not. Ironically, the person who is, someone in the greyhound racing fraternity who knows him well, contacted me. For what it's worth, I sincerely believe Akenaton doesn't kill puppies not needed for racing.

My contempt is merely based on his bigotry and astonishing belief that hate is a valid view.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 12:42 PM

I meant that the people on the Militant Atheists forum act like militant atheists (the modern definition) and are proud to be called that.

I had a look at the link. A rather hysterical Facebook sight which is most definitely NOT my idea o' fun! As a regular Facebook type (come friend ME!), I wouldn't have anything to do with this garbage.

*

If you're going to invoke my name for insults on threads in which I am not participating, Blandriver, at least get it right. Stilly, i.e., Stillaguamish.

A genuine slip o' the finger there; unfortunate in that context I admit. Sorry!

*

My response to your insulting post, was because I could make little sense of what you had written, or how it applied to myself.

Nothing insulting there, Ake - I'm not alone in these enlightened times in finding your propagandist homophobia is beneath contempt. I was simply answering your idiotic idea that heterosexuality was somehow more natural than homosexuality just because the former sometimes (rarely / insignificantly) results in pregnancy.

That you insult my mental health and imply that I am on drugs for so saying - or for not being able to grasp so basic an idea - contravenes the very laws you're forever banging on about.

We have a word for that sort o' thing, do we not?

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 12:15 PM

"Wacko" "spout idiotic, bigoted and potentially hateful nonsense. ", "Wackers,"



>>

From: Steve Shaw - PM
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 07:49 PM

You see, twat features, this is the thing: there is no parallel, no equivalence whatsoever, between your adherence to evidence-free, creationist, believer bullshit and good, honest science. None. Actually, I think I might just have mentioned that before. Now, pete babe, you rattle on elsewhere about irony. Well let me tell you a bit about irony, you silly, useless, thoughtless, brainless twerp. You diss science at every opportunity. Yet you are desperate to make equivalence between science, which you abhor so, and religion, which you mindlessly love so. Can't you see it? You are making a fool out of your own beliefs. Hardly surprising, since you are such a fool yourself. Have you a hole you can crawl into? <<

The above is 3 days ago. Using Mr. Nye's standard of what "a reasonable man" would conclude. A reasonable man would conclude that you were upset, certainly you acted upset, three days ago. A reasonable man would probably conclude that you are lying when you say this.   

>>Incidentally, Wackers, the day I come here and "get upset" about anything is the day I cease posting. <<

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: akenaton
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 12:12 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Jack Blandiver - PM
Date: 25 Dec 13 - 06:48 AM

Homosexuality IS perverse as we, male and female, were given the organs of reproduction, solely to reproduce....the pleasure we gain from sexual intercourse is an added incentive for reproduction.
So sexual intercourse with someone of the same gender is in essence a perversion of the true purpose.

This is as tragic a example of misinformed hogwash as I've experienced for some time; the sort of fascistic idiocy that underwrites small-minded hatred in which ignorance masquerades as 'informed'.

Reproduction is, at best, a random by-product of the universal procedure known as sexual intercourse. In itself reproduction is statistically insignificant given the amount of instances of sexual intercourse as against the instances of actual conception. Moreover, who has sexual intercourse to reproduce? Indeed, the mechanism of sexual intercourse is designed solely - utterly and totally - to give transcendent pleasure to the participants. It is not an 'added incentive' - it is the be-all and end-all of why we fuck.

There is nothing more 'natural' about heterosexual sex than homosexual - both are about deep instinctive sensual pleasuring to the point of orgasmic delirium (and beyond) and both work flawlessly to that end. Everything humanity turns its hand to is about using nature in such a way to enrich our lives. You hardly find steam engines, TV sets or laptop computers growing on trees, and yet these things 'work' according to the same natural universal laws that govern our bodies, with which we can do what we damn well wish in the pursuit of Peace, Love, Joy and Goodwill Toward All.

The possibilities are endless, so it's always a shame when some small-minded ill-informed fecking idiot comes along spreading their message of hate based on a complete misunderstanding of what is natural, or not natural, based entirely on their own fucked up miserable world-view which is the only true perversion here.



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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: akenaton - PM
Date: 25 Dec 13 - 09:17 AM

And a Merry Christmas to you too Jack, no matter which planet or substance you're on....Ake

My response to your insulting post, was because I could make little sense of what you had written, or how it applied to myself.

It was also intended as slightly TiC, as I thought you would have gathered from the smiley?

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 12:08 PM

"Just thought I'd mention that the interwebby thingie is a wonderful resource for looking up unfamiliar terms. Beats immediately getting on your high horse any day. "


More predictable impolite unkindness form Mr. Shaw.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 12:01 PM

No-one is shouting anyone down, Wacko. We are simply offering the alternative point of view with considerable directness, having decided to eschew gentle diplomacy and indulgence with those who spout idiotic, bigoted and potentially hateful nonsense. The same treatment that non-believers or non-compliers have been handed down for centuries, minus the violence, of course. Incidentally, Wackers, the day I come here and "get upset" about anything is the day I cease posting.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 11:42 AM

If you're going to invoke my name for insults on threads in which I am not participating, Blandriver, at least get it right. Stilly, i.e., Stillaguamish.

Thank you.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 11:42 AM

Jack B,

I don't recall persecuting you, I do recall discussing something that you said that I did not like with you. As I recall it, you gave as good as you got.

As for "shaming you into being polite." Max has shamed me into being much much more polite than I was. If I was rude to you I am sorry. But I am glad that you and I are now more polite.

"who unlike some scardy cats on this forum are embrace their beliefs"

should be

"who, unlike some scardy cats on this forum, embrace their beliefs"

I meant that the people on the Militant Atheists forum act like militant atheists (the modern definition) and are proud to be called that. While there are a couple of people on this forum who embrace the philosophy but deny that "Militant Atheism" even exists. Which makes them more like pete than anyone else on this forum. pete acts like someone who cares about science but denies the evidence, even when you virtually shove it in his face. Certain members of this forum deny simple concepts like militant atheism and forum rules even when they are shown examples of such things repeatedly.

I am not saying that what pete is doing is bad. I really admire him for his patience and faith. (though I feel the faith in Ken Ham and his confederates is misplaced.) It's up to the rest of us to politely judge for ourselves the veracity of his claims. I find it a little ironic that some of the same people who complain about free speech are people who will try to shout down pete pretty much every time he enters the conversation.

The people who vilify pete, blindly share the same blinkered doggedness that they vilify.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 11:25 AM

Bloody good job for you I'm not a shackledragger - oops, Aussie - Bill, or else I'd have been greeting you with "G'day, you old bastard!"

Just thought I'd mention that the interwebby thingie is a wonderful resource for looking up unfamiliar terms. Beats immediately getting on your high horse any day.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 11:07 AM

"... but old fruit is an affectionate address around these parts."

But Dave, I am not exactly from around those parts. I have a few odd little terms of endearment and 'affectionate address' that I have used in THESE parts, but I don't use them without explanation on an international forum.


" Oh, hang on. It was Bill. He reckons the internet is real. Oh grapefruit......"

As I said, Musket, I assume 'real' people make these posts. I don't even understand the concept involved in saying **the internet** is not real. Sounds to me like a cultural eccentricity employed to justify being rude when you can't be looked directly in the eye.
   (Now... do I have to look up "grapefruit" also? One of my terms of 'affectionate address' is "fruitcake". Makes me wonder if I oughta use it. Or maybe my friend Catspaw could offer a few suggestions.)
   In the last year or two I have been watching old English TV comedy shows... most notably "The Last of the Summer Wine", and I hear a lot of "affectionate address" used in not-quite-so-affectionate ways. If that is a common game in the UK, you should understand that it does not translate well in this "unreal" medium, and like rhyming slang, it seems a waste of effort to try to teach it to we poor colonials.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 11:03 AM

Whoever the pete was, it wasn't me.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 10:46 AM

who unlike some scardy cats on this forum are embrace their beliefs

I'm not normally pedantic, JtS, but in the light of your earlier persecution of me I'll make an exception. So, please explain to we lesser mortals - what the name of Sweet Holy Fuck does that actually mean?

*

Akeneaton's not much better, mind. On Christmas Day he cruelly slandered me as being mentally ill / on drugs for some comment I made in answer to one of his insufferable homophobic diatribes.

How does that, not to mention his noxious propagandist hatemongering, fit in with the Mudcat Rule book I wonder?

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 10:21 AM

...are embracing...

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 10:05 AM

The Militant Atheist Forum

You can tell these people, who unlike some scardy cats on this forum are embrace their beliefs.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 09:47 AM

Hi conc! Getting a bit serious if you don't mind your sweet cheeks saying so.

Here in France, the papers are full of a Catholic Bishop saying that militant atheists should be resisted, by force if necessary. He also said he answers to a higher authority than France.

If there are any militant atheists reading, I suggest you pop over and start a crusade of your own.

Except that you probably only exist in the heads of dangerous lunatics such as the aforementioned bishop. He is also the one uniting with the fascist party to criminalise people for being gay.

Still , the wine is nice. The savoire cuisine is nice. Nobody said the people had to be nice.

In Scotland next week. Now there's a much nicer place. They practice the equality Napoleon advocated. Although the sectarian divide is still there in places sadly. Although whilst they all hate Alistair Darling, they stop hating each other.

I've often wondered how hate is propagated as "god is love."

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 09:40 AM

Oh, finally an explanation of the "polly" nonsense.


I will continue to point out the rules which were written by Max, the owner of this forum, until you learn them. It might speed things up if you read them. Go to the top of the page and click "membership."

Mr Shaw, you seem to have an odd fixation with names, getting upset when Darwin's is taken in vain, but then when are you not upset? Complaining about or people's Mudcat handles. On that same membership page there is a section on the handles allowed here. Turns out you can be anything you want to be except unkind, impolite etc etc..

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: akenaton
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 08:51 AM

The posts were not deleted because of the insults to people of faith.
They were kindly deleted, because I requested them to be so.

There are some things, which even on a relatively unregulated forum like this, are beyond the pale.
Throughout these threads, I have treated fellow members and guests, respectfully, my views are not popular here, I never expected them to be, but they are VALID views and worthy of discussion.
On the post which I asked to be deleted, I was subjected to the vilest of abuse and more importantly the poster had dug up some information regarding my family. My family do not contribute to this forum and have nothing to do with my personal views on any issue debated here.
Stalking is against the rules of any civilised forum and why the poster is still allowed access is beyond me.

However the matter is in hand.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: GUEST,concerened
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 08:29 AM

Easy that shaw.. even for you.. Con,,short for Conceppta...Cerened..get it? ..chump?

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 07:20 AM

why is it that sites like this attract the really crass inventors of names? is that because in real life they aint got one? a life that is.

Steve here. So what's your name then?

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 07:17 AM

Yeah, religion has made such a brilliant job of making itself the default condition of humanity that redressing that balance is going to be a long journey, one strewn with religious bigots, delusional types claiming Greater Truths, fundamentalists of all belief systems, some quite nice people who can't accept that they are feeding their children anti-education, and people who would like to bring back the heresy laws when either their faith or their Jesus is "insulted". And, of course, those who would protect religion from us nasties by means of the parroting out of "forum rules". (How many times is that now?!)

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: GUEST,concerened
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 07:06 AM

Oh come on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 you lot!! you have started again with your third form bickering and carping and posturing.

Of course I do agree with sweetcheeks when he makes that fine remark

"It's just the pompous bullshit down here that makes me laugh. "

I think some of you like shaw and blandiver..or whatever his bloody silly name is( why is it that sites like this attract the really crass inventors of names? is that because in real life they aint got one? a life that is..) are particularly obnoxious, provocative and unkind to poor old jack.


I may not agree most of the time with what he says but he does have a right to be treated with respect and i will defend to the
last his right to have a published opinion on this site.

Some of you seem to act like self elected post police...how very dare you!!

Come on people fair shakes for everyone i say..time to bury the hatchet and get along like civilised human beings

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 05:26 AM

Hmmmm. When the Jack the Sailor objected to something I said once he opened a whole fecking thread about 'understanding me' & thus embarrassed me into politeness. That was a real mean thing to do, JtS - you exploited my good nature by dark & devious tactics & I really wish now I'd told you to fuck off, which, as an adult, I can do without implying any lack of humanity or respect, much less fear the editorial hand of Silly River Sage who considers such things to be beneath his / her prissy dignity.

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For the record - religion is STILL to spirituality what pornography is to sexuality. They are manipulative and exploitative of that which is the unique birthright of every single one of us, and they make fools & victims of those they exploit. No one was born on this earth to be a fool or a victim, and any militancy among we atheists is born from the need to redress a serious imbalance with a view to restoring a common order of humanity that hasn't been enjoyed since the egalitarianism of the Badarian farmers circa 4000 BCE.

Our time will come again!

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 04:03 AM

We had a loco driver down the pit called Fruit. Buggered if I recall his real name but Fruit was named thus on account of calling everyone else Fruit.

I'm disgusted at you Steve! Fruit is a term of endearment. Since when did our nautical censorship officer deserve such affection? Oh, hang on. It was Bill. He reckons the internet is real. Oh grapefruit......

I assume Mr Sailor must send pm messages telling the homophobic and misogynist members how the rules work, because whenever anybody advocates bigotry, offending large numbers of people, some being Mudcat members, he doesn't shout.

Yet when my learned Co Messiah or I ditch the diplomacy in retaliation to awful comments, we get some rules or other thrown in our faces.

Here's a rule. William the Bastard. 1066 - 1087.

Last day enjoying the piste and the Savayard hospitality. Back up reality tomorrow.

Mudcat never was.

Ok I'll qualify that. BS section never was. I get a hell of a lot from the real Mudcat above. It's just the pompous bullshit down here that makes me laugh. Together with certain people abusing knowledge if my email address gleaned through access to membership details in order to say privately what they don't have courage of conviction of to say publicly.

That was disappointing. Not least as it tends to alter opinions of people you thought were the good guys.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 02:31 AM

Try to understand that American English is not the original or only version, Bill. Fruit may be a term in use for other things but old fruit is an affectionate address around these parts.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 10:14 PM

Okay

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_(slang)

So... what part of that am I? Or am I just a Yankee imperialist? And what IS it in your personality that requires you to call anyone & everyone you disagree with by some stupid insulting sobriquet?

( I didn't remember I knew 'sobriquet' until I got to that part of the post.)

Anyway, I'll repeat what I said months ago: I'd rather spend an hour in a pub disagreeing politely with ol' creationist Pete than be insulted for 5 minutes by you.

And I think I'll take my own advice and not waste my poor typing fingers replying to any more insults. Your hobby has begun to wear on me.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 08:36 PM

"You are free to be anything you want EXCEPT unkind, impolite, argumentative, snooty, or either FOR or AGAINST that of-what-we-do-not-speak."