BS: HMS Terror found!

Subject: RE: BS: HMS Terror found!
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Sep 19 - 08:39 PM

If Franklin and the others had only been sensible and waited they could have sailed the Northwest Passage in considerable comfort (USD 126,000+ for one of them).

Subject: RE: BS: HMS Terror found!
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 31 Aug 19 - 10:07 AM

well, it has become a music thread ...

Subject: RE: BS: HMS Terror found!
From: Mr Red
Date: 31 Aug 19 - 05:45 AM

is this Terror(bull) news?

It is below the line! As it were..........

Subject: RE: BS: HMS Terror found!
From: robomatic
Date: 29 Aug 19 - 08:39 PM

I haven't been to the Alaska State Fair. Probably won't make it. Maybe they'll come to town down here in Anchorage?
They look like they'd fit in here.

Subject: RE: BS: HMS Terror found!
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 29 Aug 19 - 07:54 PM

thanks, for the link, robomatic.

did you see Rogues & Wenches they make all our striped shirt wearers look boring. And they don't sound bad, either!

Subject: RE: BS: HMS Terror found!
From: robomatic
Date: 29 Aug 19 - 06:03 PM

Anchorage Museum Exhibit

Subject: RE: BS: HMS Terror found!
From: Iains
Date: 29 Aug 19 - 02:03 PM

Stilly River Sage.   Thank you for that little trick. In my opinion it is by far the best version I have heard

Subject: RE: BS: HMS Terror found!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 29 Aug 19 - 12:34 PM

If you click the "share" button you get a lot shorter link:

https://youtu.be/7kEuVuaSRdM

Subject: RE: BS: HMS Terror found!
From: Iains
Date: 29 Aug 19 - 09:04 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kEuVuaSRdM&list=OLAK5uy_l-GZs6RHhR6K75jPOCW1MfoNwH1y8Vy7c&index=4

Subject: RE: BS: HMS Terror found!
From: Raggytash
Date: 29 Aug 19 - 06:44 AM

The ship is in a remarkable state of preservation. As Sandra says the film in well worth looking at and can be found in the Guardian at:






HMS Terror

Subject: RE: BS: HMS Terror found!
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 29 Aug 19 - 06:24 AM

amazing video taken inside HMS Terror

Frozen in time' wreck sheds new light on Franklin's ill-fated 1845 Arctic quest Evidence recovered from beneath the bitter cold of Canada’s Arctic Ocean will shed new light on the final days the ill-fated expedition of the British polar explorer Sir John Franklin, who disappeared with his crew in 1845.

Parks Canada and Inuit researchers announced on Wednesday the results of a study of the HMS Terror – including “groundbreaking” new images from within the incredibly well-preserved ship – and raised the possibility that logs and maps have remained intact and legible after nearly 170 years underwater.

Over several weeks in early August, the researchers launched 3D-mapping technology to survey the wreck site off the the coast of King William Island in Nunavut. (read on)

Subject: RE: Concerning Franklin and His Gallant Crew - 1845
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 15 Sep 16 - 06:32 PM

Ship found in Arctic 168 years after doomed Northwest Passage attempt

Paul Watson in Vancouver
Monday 12 September 2016

The long-lost ship of British polar explorer Sir John Franklin, HMS Terror, has been found in pristine condition at the bottom of an Arctic bay, researchers have said, in a discovery that challenges the accepted history behind one of polar exploration's deepest mysteries.

HMS Terror and Franklin's flagship, HMS Erebus, were abandoned in heavy sea ice far to the north of the eventual wreck site in 1848, during the Royal Navy explorer's doomed attempt to complete the Northwest Passage.

All 129 men on the Franklin expedition died, in the worst disaster to hit Britain's Royal Navy in its long history of polar exploration. Search parties continued to look for the ships for 11 years after they disappeared, but found no trace, and the fate of the missing men remained an enigma that tantalised generations of historians, archaeologists and adventurers.

Now that mystery seems to have been solved by a combination of intrepid exploration – and an improbable tip from an Inuk crewmember.

On Sunday, a team from the charitable Arctic Research Foundation manoeuvred a small, remotely operated vehicle through an open hatch and into the ship to capture stunning images that give insight into life aboard the vessel close to 170 years ago.

(more at the link above.)

Subject: RE: BS: HMS Terror found!
From: judyac
Date: 15 Sep 16 - 05:37 PM

Beardedbruce posted the following above, "This vessel looks like it was buttoned down tight for winter and it sank," said Schimnowski. "Everything was shut. Even the windows are still intact. If you could lift this boat out of the water, and pump the water out, it would probably float."

If water had entered through the seams as suggested by Teribus, just raising the boat and pumping out the water would not be enough to get it to float.

The Guardian and others say almost all the hatches were closed. So if at least one hatch was open maybe that is where the water came in.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/12/hms-terror-wreck-found-arctic-nearly-170-years-northwest-passage-attempt

Subject: RE: BS: HMS Terror found!
From: Teribus
Date: 14 Sep 16 - 07:13 PM

Why did it sink Mrrzy asks? Ice closes around the ship and starts to crush it, then it is pushed upwards where even though extremely cold it starts too dry out, successive cycles of this treatment means that caulked seams start to open so that when it thaws water enters the ship and it sinks.?

"Lord Franklin"?? Only thing wrong with that of course is that he was never a Lord, highest rank he ever attained was "Rear-Admiral Sir John Franklin KCH FRGS RN born 16 April 1786, died 11 June 1847.

Best version of the song that I have ever heard was recorded and performed by a Norwegian Band - The Tramps on their "Fireland" CD.

Subject: RE: BS: HMS Terror found!
From: judyac
Date: 14 Sep 16 - 09:38 AM

http://www.ric.edu/faculty/rpotter/ballad.html

Subject: RE: BS: HMS Terror found!
From: Mrrzy
Date: 14 Sep 16 - 09:29 AM

Not sure a mystery was exactly solved - it was supposed to have been broken up by the ice, and it wasn't, so the new mystery is, why did it sink?

Subject: RE: BS: HMS Terror found!
From: gnu
Date: 13 Sep 16 - 09:53 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVY8LoM47xI

Subject: RE: BS: HMS Terror found!
From: judyac
Date: 13 Sep 16 - 08:29 PM

Beautiful version of "Lord Franklin" by Sinéad O'Connor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fgNcx9st1A

Subject: RE: BS: HMS Terror found!
From: gnu
Date: 13 Sep 16 - 12:49 PM

Just figured it out. DUH!

Subject: RE: BS: HMS Terror found!
From: bubblyrat
Date: 13 Sep 16 - 12:47 PM

At least the name survived ; in the 1960 's , the Royal Navy base and dockyard in Singapore was named HMS Terror ( I was there in 1967/68 ).

Subject: RE: BS: HMS Terror found!
From: gnu
Date: 13 Sep 16 - 12:46 PM

BTW... listen to what the Ranger said and wrap your head around that. I still can't figure that one out.

Subject: RE: BS: HMS Terror found!
From: gnu
Date: 13 Sep 16 - 12:42 PM

Oh! Oh... Canadian Rangers (known also as Northern Rangers or The Watchers) are mostly Inuit.

Subject: RE: BS: HMS Terror found!
From: gnu
Date: 13 Sep 16 - 12:24 PM

So... it was a Ranger that "found" it. Might be the guy on the left at the end of the video. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/hms-terror-found-1.3758400

Subject: RE: BS: HMS Terror found!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Sep 16 - 10:37 AM

HMS Terror was a bomb vessel designed by Sir Henry Peake, and constructed for the Royal Navy by Robert Davy in Topsham, Devon. The ship, variously listed as being of either 326 or 340 tons, carried two mortars, one 13 in (330 mm) and one 10 in (250 mm). Terror participated in several battles of the War of 1812 and saw service in the Mediterranean Sea in the 1820s. After being withdrawn from service as a bomb vessel, Terror took part in several voyages of exploration, including George Back's Arctic expedition of 1836–1837, the Ross expedition of 1839 to 1843, and Sir John Franklin's ill-fated attempt to force the Northwest Passage in 1845, during which she was lost with all hands. On 12 September 2016, it was announced that the wreck of Terror had been found in Nunavut's Terror Bay. The wreck was discovered by the Arctic Research Foundation 92 kilometres (57 mi) south of the reported location where the ship was abandoned.

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HMS Terror saw service in the War of 1812 against the United States. Under the command of John Sheridan, she took part in the bombardment of Stonington, Connecticut, on 9–12 August 1814 and of Fort McHenry in the Battle of Baltimore on 13–14 September 1814; the latter attack inspired Francis Scott Key to write the poem that eventually became known as "The Star-Spangled Banner". In January 1815, still under Sheridan's command, Terror was involved in the Battle of Fort Peter and the attack on St. Marys, Georgia.[2]




A short history for those who care. Looks like it belongs in Baltimore Harbor. Ft McHenry only has a few functional 60 pounders now, so she should be safe


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USS Constellation is now part of Historic Ships in Baltimore, which also operates the Coast Guard cutter USCGC Taney (WHEC-37), the World War II submarine USS Torsk (SS-423), the lightship Chesapeake, and the Seven Foot Knoll Light. Constellation and her companions are major contributing elements in the Baltimore National Heritage Area.[6]

Subject: RE: BS: HMS Terror found!
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Sep 16 - 09:39 AM

Good. Another mystery solved; I hope that they can float it as it would be a treasure house of artifacts.

Lady Franklin posted a reward, I believe. Can they still claim it? Will the Royal Navy reclaim the ship? I'd kinda like it as a personal yacht, if they can get it to Idaho.

Subject: BS: HMS Terror found!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Sep 16 - 06:57 AM

http://theweek.com/speedreads/648320/mysterious-inuit-tale-leads-researchers-168yearold-wreck-hms-terror

"This vessel looks like it was buttoned down tight for winter and it sank," said Schimnowski. "Everything was shut. Even the windows are still intact. If you could lift this boat out of the water, and pump the water out, it would probably float."