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BS: Somebody nicked my name

Tattie Bogle 25 Sep 19 - 08:31 PM
ChanteyLass 25 Sep 19 - 08:38 PM
Stilly River Sage 25 Sep 19 - 09:35 PM
Jim Carroll 26 Sep 19 - 02:45 AM
BobL 26 Sep 19 - 02:54 AM
Mr Red 26 Sep 19 - 03:56 AM
Mrrzy 26 Sep 19 - 10:08 AM
Acorn4 26 Sep 19 - 10:30 AM
Steve Shaw 26 Sep 19 - 10:33 AM
punkfolkrocker 26 Sep 19 - 10:36 AM
Tattie Bogle 26 Sep 19 - 01:46 PM
Joe Offer 26 Sep 19 - 02:27 PM
punkfolkrocker 26 Sep 19 - 02:36 PM
Donuel 26 Sep 19 - 04:55 PM
Anne Lister 26 Sep 19 - 05:33 PM
Tattie Bogle 26 Sep 19 - 07:10 PM
McGrath of Harlow 26 Sep 19 - 08:25 PM
Jack Campin 27 Sep 19 - 05:34 AM
Steve Shaw 27 Sep 19 - 10:00 AM
Steve Shaw 27 Sep 19 - 10:30 AM
Tattie Bogle 27 Sep 19 - 12:08 PM
Joe Offer 27 Sep 19 - 01:51 PM
Jack Campin 27 Sep 19 - 03:54 PM
Steve Shaw 27 Sep 19 - 05:22 PM
Steve Shaw 27 Sep 19 - 05:23 PM
Anne Lister 27 Sep 19 - 05:44 PM
Tattie Bogle 28 Sep 19 - 07:29 PM
Jack Campin 29 Sep 19 - 05:59 AM
Mrrzy 29 Sep 19 - 12:15 PM
Anne Lister 29 Sep 19 - 06:01 PM
Joe MacGillivray 30 Sep 19 - 02:04 PM
keberoxu 02 Oct 19 - 02:00 PM
Tattie Bogle 02 Oct 19 - 04:28 PM
Tattie Bogle 03 Oct 19 - 06:56 PM
leeneia 04 Oct 19 - 12:53 PM

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Subject: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 25 Sep 19 - 08:31 PM

I've been a Mudcatter for many's the year,
But something's annoying me, that's very clear,
'Cos somebody's nicked my respected false name,
And the stuff that (s)he posts makes me curl up with shame.
But it's no, nay, never,
Not on Mudcat, but who
Writes there in "The Scotsman"
Tattie Bogle no 2?

This dreadful impostor would make you lament
The garbage (s)he spews out with which I dissent,
My friends they have asked me, "Is that really you?"
I canna believe you would think it was true.
Chorus...and so on.

So, yes, after nearly 20 years as a Mudcatter known as Tattie Bogle, there is another Tattie Bogle, definitely not me, who writes the most outrageous horrible trolling comments under articles in The Scotsman online newspaper. I do not wish to be associated in any way with this lowlife, so, with some regret, I am seriously thinking of asking Joe to re-register me in my real name, which quite a few of you know anyway. I have never felt the need to hide behind a pseudonym: it was just that, at rhe time I joined Mudcat, people were encouraged to adopt them.
Trish


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 25 Sep 19 - 08:38 PM

Oh, dear! I'm sorry this has happened to you!


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Sep 19 - 09:35 PM

Tattie, your last Guest posting was in 2016: https://mudcat.org/usersearch.cfm?who=GUEST,Tattie+Bogle

Other guest posts that have appeared have been deleted.


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 26 Sep 19 - 02:45 AM

One of the most disgusting examples of this was on appalling and now thankfully deleted site attacking the Environment Campaigner Greta Thunberg when one redneck posted as the not-long deceased 'Keith of Hertford'
Years ago this site was infiltrated by an ultra-right English Group
I had a pro-terrorist Facebook site opened in my name - luckily a fellow Mudcatter advised me about it and I was able to close it.
With what's happening to politics in Britain and the U.S. today, especially the international getting together of the ultra-right groups (Marine LePen's dream) I fear we can look forward to things like this in the not-to-distant future
Be afraid- be very afraid !
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: BobL
Date: 26 Sep 19 - 02:54 AM

Well Tattie, to those of us who don't read The Scotsman, online or off, the existence of the other craw-bogle is a matter neither here not there. Stay as you are please!


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Mr Red
Date: 26 Sep 19 - 03:56 AM

It happens.
My nom de gaure had already been used by an American Football mascot/cheerleader (retired). I don't know his route to the name, but mine is purely a sartorial affectation. Corporate identity. And a website domain name, wot I grabbed rather swiftly.

http://mister.red

I don't use my real name for the same reason I don't use my real birthdate on insignificances like Fakebook. Security.


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Mrrzy
Date: 26 Sep 19 - 10:08 AM

I had my identity stolen once... Back in the 90's or maybe late 80's. Still an occasional problem. My sympathies.


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Acorn4
Date: 26 Sep 19 - 10:30 AM

Don't tell him,Pike!


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Sep 19 - 10:33 AM

I'm not on any social media, though I'll look at the odd tweet mentioned on the Beeb or Guardian websites. Dunno whether my lack of presence or vigilance is any sort of threat, but if you see me on anything like Facebook (which I never even look at) or twitter it isn't me. And never will be. And I've told all my Facebookophile relatives not to mention me, still less post photos with me in them (I fell out bigtime with one of 'em over such a pic).


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 26 Sep 19 - 10:36 AM

If my nom de plummet is seen posting anywhere apart from here,
then it's either a nefarious imposter,
or a freak coincidence of like minded creative naming...

My real name however crops up on loads of music and movie credits
because there's too many of us with the same name...

Though I'm probably one of the oldest and least successful...

[One lives round the corner from me and is registered to the same Dr..
oh the fun we've had with prescriptions...]


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 26 Sep 19 - 01:46 PM

SRS: I wasn't suggesting that anyone on here had cloned me: any Guest Tattie Bogle posts on here almost certainly were the genuine me, but had temporarily lost cookie, and just noticed in time to add my name in.

BobL: I know that on a global scale the chances of other Mudcatters seeing these foul online posts by the other Tattie Bogle in the online version of The Scotsman newspaper are infinitesimal. However, there's a much bigger chance of my local Scottish friends reading those same comments and thinking it was me who posted them, which I really don't want. (And it has happened more than once.) And I also used to post on another online Scottish-based music forum under the same name, so there are quite a lot of people who know me as such, after we played our usual guessing games, of "well, which one are you?"

I wouldn't class reading and commenting on online news reports as "social media", although many of the commenters seem to spend their whole day trading insults! I read them sometimes, but very rarely comment.
I don't do Twitter. I am on Facebook, under my real name, but don't give out personal stuff or tell people I'm on holiday until after I get back! On any other forums or sites I've joined in more recent times, I use my real name.

PFR: the medical connection is that your abbreviated moniker stands for Peak Flow Rate!

Mr Red: we have met, and it was pretty obvious that it was you!


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Sep 19 - 02:27 PM

I knew what a tattie scone is, but I didn't know "tattie bogle" is a scarecrow. It's also a folk dance, not that I can understand the diagram of the dance here:

So, Tattie Bogle, is your membership secure, or do I need to change your password for you? Sorry I missed you and Jack Campin on this trip to Scotland. I spent my spare time in Belfast, and had no time for visiting once the Jim Malcolm Borders tour began.

-Joe-


The tattie-bogle wags his airms:
Caw! Caw! Caw!
He hasna onie banes or thairms:
Caw! Caw! Caw!

We corbies wha hae taken tent,
And wamphl’d round, and glower’d asklent,
Noo gang hame lauchin owre the bent:
Caw! Caw! Caw!


William Soutar

from Seeds in the Wind: poems in Scots for children, rev. and enlgd. edition (London: Andrew Dakers, 1943)


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 26 Sep 19 - 02:36 PM

..is that rate of pints flowing from mouth to porcelain...???


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Sep 19 - 04:55 PM

I told Joe someone has the ability to post under any name and even edit PMs at will but he is unsure.
3 months ago


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Anne Lister
Date: 26 Sep 19 - 05:33 PM

You think you've got problems? Try having the same name as a notorious diarist from a couple of centuries ago! Someone actually asked me recently whether I'd chosen my name to be like the famous Anne Lister, and I had to explain, as calmly as I could, that I had in fact had this name all my life and I was fairly sure my parents had never heard of my namesake. Oddly, however, we share a birthdate (although not, of course, the same year).


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 26 Sep 19 - 07:10 PM

Ha-ha Anne! Is that the same Anne Lister as was portrayed in the recent BBC TV series?

Thanks Joe: I'm pretty sure I've not been cloned on this website. As I have hopefully now clarified, the other Tattie Bogle turns up in the comments section under various reports in The Scotsman newspaper, and probably has no idea that he/she, purely by chance, picked the same pseudonym as I did. So to say that he/she "nicked" (stole) it was my little joke, as I think I had it first! So, no need to change my password at present.
Hope you had a great time in Belfast and beyond, and on Jim's tour :sorry to miss you here.

And yes, Tattie Bogle is a scarecrow: it was a term of endearment used by our Scottish mother for my sister and I as kids, when we came in from playing outdoors and looking a bit dishevelled: "You look a right couple of tattie bogles".


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 26 Sep 19 - 08:25 PM

It's simpler using your own name here. There are sites where I'd use a pseudonym, but I never fancied doing that here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Jack Campin
Date: 27 Sep 19 - 05:34 AM

I first heard about the other Anne Lister this summer, at the Piece Hall museum in Halifax. There are probably songs about her already but maybe Anne Lister could write one?

Anne Lister


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Sep 19 - 10:00 AM

There was a good drama series about Anne Lister on the telly this summer called Gentleman Jack. I think she's buried in Halifax Cathedral (is it a cathedral?).

I've always used my real name on forums. There was an exception for a few weeks on The Session when I realised that I'd said something uncomplimentary about a bloke who I knew who played the twelve-string guitar, and that he'd identify me were he to read the thread. So I rapidly changed my name to Equal Temperament until the thread dropped out of sight, when I turned honest again. Bloody coward! It was his playing I was having a go at, not him personally, by the way. Twelve-strings in sessions? Grrr...

(It's OK - he's dead now...)


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Sep 19 - 10:30 AM

I hasten to add that it wasn't Bill Caddick! 'Twas a far lesser light than he...


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 27 Sep 19 - 12:08 PM

Just to reassure the mods, I have now looked at the link provided by SRS of all the Guest, Tattie Bogle postings: yes, all me, completely genuine: just at times when I realised I had been logged out but didn't have my password at the forefront of my brain! (But then scarecrows don't have brains, do they?)


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 Sep 19 - 01:51 PM

Just for you, Tattie Bogle (click)....

With the thoughts I'd be thinkin',
I could be another Lincoln
If I only had a brain.


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Jack Campin
Date: 27 Sep 19 - 03:54 PM

Steve's face is up on YouTube for all to to see, except he's hiding behind a free reed burka.


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Sep 19 - 05:22 PM

It's pretty old now, Jack. Since I uploaded those tunes I've aged and gone a bit deaf. It could mean that I might be able to play better now. I'll gave it a bash some time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Sep 19 - 05:23 PM

Give not gave yeah?


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Anne Lister
Date: 27 Sep 19 - 05:44 PM

There have been two programmes on the telly about the historic Anne Lister, one with Sue Perkins and the other with Suranne Jones (for the closing credits of which the film production used the song Gentleman Jack performed by O'Hooley and Tidow). Some years ago, and well before these programmes, I was given a copy of the diaries of Anne Lister when I was on tour in the States, which is how I know we share a birthday. But little else, I have to say, which is why it's unlikely I'll write a song about her, and I confess I haven't watched either of the shows even though friends have recommended them to me. She's not a blood relative - my Lister relatives were from mining and agricultural working families, not landed gentry. But we have had to add a disclaimer to my website, in case anyone confuses the two of us!


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 28 Sep 19 - 07:29 PM

Thanks for the re-run of Wizard of Oz, Joe: yes, that was what I was thinking of with my last scarecrow comment.

And Anne, Steve, it was "Gentleman Jack" which was the TV series I was recalling. It was well done (at least, the bits of it that I saw.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Jack Campin
Date: 29 Sep 19 - 05:59 AM

There is of course a third one, Anne T. Septic Lister.


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Mrrzy
Date: 29 Sep 19 - 12:15 PM

Tabster...


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Anne Lister
Date: 29 Sep 19 - 06:01 PM

Yes, well, of course the antiseptic Dr Lister is why when I was teaching I was nicknamed Mouthwash ... but that is yet another Lister who is unrelated to me. I am, myself, also Dr Lister these days (actually, legally, Dr Purbrick, as that's my married and non-stage name).
Tabster - ah, Mrrzy, that's from a long past time!


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Joe MacGillivray
Date: 30 Sep 19 - 02:04 PM

That's terrible to hear. It really is disgusting that people will falsely use another's name and drag it in the dirt.

The fact that the nasty comments occur on the Scotsman does not surprise me much.

I used to read the Scotsman online, but they allowed a lot of bigoted trolling comments on there (anti-Gaelic comments on Gaelic news articles). Completely angered me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: keberoxu
Date: 02 Oct 19 - 02:00 PM

You keep on keeping on.
You are OUR Tattie Bogle
and we want to keep you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 02 Oct 19 - 04:28 PM

Thanks Keberoxu: seems someone HAS now tried it on here, and posted some foul and offensive stuff. Thanks to Bonnie Shaljean for telling me: will now report to mods


Taken care of. ---mudelf


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 03 Oct 19 - 06:56 PM

Thanks to the wonderful mudelf who recognised that that post was from a spammer/hacker/cloner and not from me!


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Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: leeneia
Date: 04 Oct 19 - 12:53 PM

I have a suggestion for you. Since "tattie bogle" is a recognized phrase of long standing, why not make your screen name slightly different.

I suggest spelling it with three t's, not two:

Tatttie Bogle. Nobody will come up with that.


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