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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Senoufou Date: 01 Mar 20 - 06:25 PM And now Scotland has its first case, in Tayside (where my sister lives!). She'd better don a Hazmat suit and get to work. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Helen Date: 01 Mar 20 - 06:30 PM Never let the facts get in the way of a good insult Mossback. Your factual inadequacy is showing again. SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome) Geographical distribution The distribution is based on the 2002–2003 epidemic. The disease appeared in November 2002 in the Guangdong province of southern China. This area is considered as a potential zone of re-emergence of SARS-CoV. COVID19 • A pneumonia of unknown cause detected in Wuhan, China was first reported to the WHO Country Office in China on 31 December 2019. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Donuel Date: 01 Mar 20 - 06:41 PM Iains posts are lately quite factual but fair and balanced. I think Mossback has an internet personna thing happenin. sneezing is not symptom |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Steve Shaw Date: 02 Mar 20 - 04:36 AM Dear mod, it's perfectly fine for you to delete posts. But do be kind enough to allow me to say that the stereotype about all Aussie men and beer that you appear to not want challenged is unjustified and untrue. I speak from first-hand experience of having visited Australia and having mixed with plenty of Aussie men. I'm pretty sure that if I came out with unjustified stereotyping of women you'd be down on me like a ton of bricks. Kindly reflect. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Donuel Date: 02 Mar 20 - 06:11 AM Due to a contamination of the Atlanta CDC location, no testing kits will be made there now. Whoops si daisy when this comes out, sewerage will hit the ventilation system. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Donuel Date: 02 Mar 20 - 08:24 AM Right now Axios is reporting a small part of the story but is still in the process of double sourcing. All they have now is a report to Washington from an inspector. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Iains Date: 02 Mar 20 - 12:15 PM As of 9am this morning, 4 further patients in England have tested positive for COVID-19. All 4 patients had recently travelled from Italy. The patients are from Hertfordshire, Devon and Kent. All are being investigated and contact tracing has begun. The total number of confirmed cases in England is now 37. Following previously reported confirmed cases in Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland, the total number of UK cases is 40. My old school was shut today for at least a week after one teacher tested positive on Sunday. (never had that sort of luck when I was there, or my father) |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Helen Date: 02 Mar 20 - 01:06 PM Coronavirus COVID-19 has begun spreading in Australia. So, what happens now? "As Australians are urged to stop shaking hands to reduce the coronavirus risk, authorities are now considering more extreme prevention measures such as bans on large gatherings." Not shaking hands will be a difficult habit to break for some people. It's an automatic response for people in business or public office. And, after I posted yesterday saying that I hadn't seen anyone wearing a face mask, I did see one person when I went to the shops later in the morning. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Mr Red Date: 02 Mar 20 - 02:32 PM I went to the dentist last week, log-in is a touch-screen. Doctor's is too (when you can get an appointment). &............ A friend asks the desk to log-in at the hospital, and despite remonstrations from the receptionist pointing at a machine, she asks "when it was last cleaned". She gets her way, playing the greycard! I am going to use my smart phone dabber in future, and swab it as often as my hands. Well? If you want to find a virus, the best place is where all the viruscated sufferers congregate. Hospital. On the plus side, we should all try and pay with contactless debt (sic) cards. Lets face it, who disinfects cash? |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: mg Date: 02 Mar 20 - 03:25 PM take your own wipes and wipe touchscreens, toilet handles, etc. yourself. I know there will be valid complaints from people with chemical sensitivities, but these items are or should be disinfected anyway. Use a standard brand. Anytime you are in a food place or store where they provide wipes, use those wipes. I ask the bus drivers if I can wipe down the handles and poles etcc. and they say yes. Wiped down some at church yesterday mostly outside rails |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Donuel Date: 02 Mar 20 - 03:27 PM now that is pro active |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Helen Date: 02 Mar 20 - 03:42 PM Mr Red. I never thought of that when I used the log-in tablet at the blood donation centre last week. I'll have to remember to use the hand sanitiser before and after I use it next time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: punkfolkrocker Date: 02 Mar 20 - 04:07 PM pandemic.. panicdemic... |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Helen Date: 02 Mar 20 - 05:11 PM Good one, pfr!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Donuel Date: 02 Mar 20 - 05:13 PM 6 deaths from Covid 19 in Washington State sugests 300 more with the virus but they report only 16 infections. Downplaying and filtering information is a terrible thing to do. Mr. Pense you are a bad man. Of course a virtual inability to adequately test is the reason for the confusion. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: mg Date: 02 Mar 20 - 07:38 PM rumor has it we have one locally. no idea if true or not. was another rumor a person a bit aways from here was traveling and got something. think entire fire crew of kirkland wa usa is quarantined because they visited the nursing home that may or may not have it. many patients and staff under suspicion. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: mg Date: 02 Mar 20 - 07:38 PM rumor has it we have one locally. no idea if true or not. was another rumor a person a bit aways from here was traveling and got something. think entire fire crew of kirkland wa usa is quarantined because they visited the nursing home that may or may not have it. many patients and staff under suspicion. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: punkfolkrocker Date: 02 Mar 20 - 07:51 PM "rumor has it.. no idea if true or not.. another rumor.. something.. think.. may or may not.. under suspicion..." yeahh.. we get the drift.. PANICDEMIC...!!!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: mg Date: 02 Mar 20 - 09:11 PM Yes. Pandemic. Spreading rapidly where I live. Port towns, lots of travelers. Lots of sea traffic. Lots of air traffic. Homeless on buses will spread if they get it, and I have a handicapped brother who works in a homeless shelter. King County buying motel for people who have it and must be quarantined. Middle school basketball event somewhere in washington, confirmed case. School staff member in Oregon near Portland I believe a confirmed case. You can wait until you are totally sure you know what you are talking about, or you can report what you hear. Either way there are problems. The truth will be wrapped in a thousand rumers, but that is the way it always is. Our source of truth in USA is being tampered with. Word of mouth will get it wrong quite often, but also get it right. Like I said, if we waited until 100% sure of everything, spread would be probably ten times as high. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: mg Date: 02 Mar 20 - 09:44 PM middle school game was in oregon i think but patient is in walla walla washington hospital. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: mg Date: 02 Mar 20 - 10:00 PM i hope this tickles your fhttps://www.theverge.com/2020/3/2/21161824/coronavirus-death-life-care-washington-testing-surveillanceunny bone. what is very concerning is the high ratio of possible or suspected cases in a population both of elderly patients and working age staff. I think sneering at this when people are dying is disgusting. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Helen Date: 02 Mar 20 - 10:08 PM Yep - my funny bone was tickled by your mushed up link, mg. LOL widespread testing matters |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: punkfolkrocker Date: 02 Mar 20 - 10:15 PM Petty minded folks always seem to get disgusted the most...??? It's healthier to be sneered at than sneezed at... |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Iains Date: 03 Mar 20 - 02:32 AM The WHO is still declaring coronavirus an epidemic. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Iains Date: 03 Mar 20 - 03:36 AM From the gruniard. It must be right https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/03/scott-morrison-calls-for-calm-as-coronavirus-prompts-panic-buying-at-supermarkets I noticed powdered milk was out of stock where I shop, also handgel and wipes. Mormons are supposed to stockpile food for one year. Not a bad idea. It is estimated that the meals in the United States travel about 1,500 miles to get from farm to plate. It does not require much to create supply chain dislocations, for whatever reason. Lack of widgets from Wuhan is but the tip of the iceburg. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Backwoodsman Date: 03 Mar 20 - 03:37 AM In the interests of balance and proportion - seasonal Influenza kills an average of 17,000 people per year in England alone (that’s England alone, not the entire UK - Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland ‘flu deaths aren’t included in that number), and around 500,000 - half a million - worldwide. Covid-19 has a way to go, it would seem. Watch this space.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Backwoodsman Date: 03 Mar 20 - 03:49 AM Those stats from a BBC reporter on ‘Breakfast’ this morning. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Iains Date: 03 Mar 20 - 03:55 AM Backwoodman you are correct. However the problem is numerical. Facilities for those with severe respiratory problems are very limited. If numbers infected developing complications spiral those facilities will be swamped. Interesting how many passenger cancellations are occurring, leading to many grounded flights. It is still too soon to predict how it will all pan out. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Senoufou Date: 03 Mar 20 - 04:35 AM Chatted with my sis on the phone yesterday, and she told me she's one among only five retired docs in her area with the necessary experience in ITU. She's ready to help if needed, and as she points out, it will be the 'frontline' employed docs who are at risk from infection and who will need replacing from the Oldies' Army. She's remarkably strong and feisty for her age and I reckon she could do it. But it is worrying nevertheless. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Helen Date: 03 Mar 20 - 05:48 AM Iains said, "It does not require much to create supply chain dislocations, for whatever reason." In Australia, after the prolonged drought, then bushfires and then floods, our supply chain is already in a very low state. The COVID19 issues may just be the tipping point for us. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: punkfolkrocker Date: 03 Mar 20 - 05:57 AM At a time when we are spoiled for choice with internet conspiracy theories, I wonder how we would deal with this if there had been a worldwide media blackout regarding Corona...??? What if we the public had been protected from news which causes alarm and panic...??? Would we just face up to and deal with what we'd think as a very nasty worse than usual flu outbreak...??? Who knows, but decisions were made for whatever vested interests and hidden agendas to make such a big media event of this... It certainly seems to have put a lid on mass protests in Hong Kong, fer instance...??? |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Steve Shaw Date: 03 Mar 20 - 07:18 AM Crowd of about ten people in an otherwise quiet Bude Morrison's this morning, staring blankly like zombies at the stripped-bare hand-sanitizer shelf. I should have guessed when I saw 'em. It's started... [Note to self: Must panic-buy some Heinz beanz urgently...oven chips...fish fingers...] I'm still panic-buying Prosecco, as it comes from the Veneto in northern Italy. D'you think I should spray the bottles with Dettox...? :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: punkfolkrocker Date: 03 Mar 20 - 07:33 AM I might nip into the local undertakers to see if they start running any buy one get one free promotions, if we book in advance... I'm in the 60 - 70 risk group.. my mum is 87... My mrs aint 60 just yet, so she's still young enough to take care of the arrangements... Coffin panic buying - I'd always be happier with a cheap disposable body bag anyway... |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Rain Dog Date: 03 Mar 20 - 07:40 AM No coughing while panic buying please. Would that be a bag for life? |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: punkfolkrocker Date: 03 Mar 20 - 07:46 AM Reusable body bags would be more eco-friendly and pro life... |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Donuel Date: 03 Mar 20 - 08:37 AM pfr I will try to walk back the conspiratorial musings but what will it accomplish? Will it lessen a hatred of the powers that be that you already dislike/distrust? Yes an outbreak is a media goldmine that keeps giving. Why wouldn't it be? Our collective nature has a deny first quality. This happened in China first. Yes time and opportunities were lost. The same here. The budget to fight and isolate outbreaks wasn't just decimated it was cut by a third. We seem to be in a CANCEL Culture. I wrote right here 20 years ago of threats to civilization. There are many. I was critisized for doing so. Now Murdoch owns TV stations that always play end of world shows. But this is not the end of the world, Not even close. Regarding bio weaponry the haunting question that was asked many times was 'what if we weaponied the common cold'? Nature does things better than man when it comes to DNA life or 'half alive' RNA. It is possible we did it or nature did it. How will that help people of retirement age today? What are the benefits of this outbreak? There are some. NOT Caring for the old and infirm does save money and resources like pushing grandpa out to sea on a ice flow. It is of no use to investigate that now whether it is all unadultrated BULL SHIT or not.. I can't think of one thing a conspiracy theory will help except horror stories at night while camping. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Donuel Date: 03 Mar 20 - 08:50 AM Forget two for one specials. Inventoy is low so there are TWO IN ONE specials. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Jeri Date: 03 Mar 20 - 09:31 AM The main thing in hand sanitizer is alcohol. You can probably find some of that. (I don't think it's effective when taken internally.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Jeri Date: 03 Mar 20 - 09:33 AM I have enough food to last for a while, but it's nice to know there are some benefits to being a hermit. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Donuel Date: 03 Mar 20 - 09:38 AM There was prepper buying at big box Costco stores best suited for stocking up but media is not showing it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Steve Shaw Date: 03 Mar 20 - 10:59 AM There's blanket coverage here telling us to not panic. So we're all panicking. Oh, and you've got to sing Happy Birthday twice whilst washing your hands to make sure you do it for long enough. I'm weighing up whether to get Coronavirus or to go to jail for copyright breach... |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: punkfolkrocker Date: 03 Mar 20 - 11:03 AM What BPM are we meant to sing it...??? |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Rain Dog Date: 03 Mar 20 - 11:03 AM Yes but they did not tell us what name to use when singing Happy Birthday. What if you use a name that is too short and die as a result of not washing your hands for that extra second or two? |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Steve Shaw Date: 03 Mar 20 - 11:10 AM Subject it to Amazing Slow Downer, of course. Tsk. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Iains Date: 03 Mar 20 - 11:13 AM It is still early days. Real preppers would have topped off their supplies at the first rumours of a pandemic. Conspiracy theories as to the origin of this plague do nothing to lessen the impact of what is very real, and among us. By the time sufficient numbers fall ill for a pandemic to be declared, and compulsory control measures put in place, it will be too late for panic buying. Food distribution and keeping vital services rumnning will be the main concern of government, should the numbers infected rise significantly. Most will be able to self medicate and swallow a few aspirin. It is those with pneumonia and other complications that will quickly swamp those intensive care facilities able to aid reoxygenation of blood. If 6000 acute beds exist in the UK what percentage are equipped with ventilators and similar equipment? The BMJ is giving free online access to corona virus material. Why rely on rumours when expert information is available? If we are lucky this will merely be a dry run for a future event, but I suspect it will be a very changed world by the end of March. The numbers in the next few days will give an indication An interesting read below,especially the comment concerning the graphical reppresentation of the rate of spread. https://techcrunch.com/2020/02/23/what-happens-if-a-pandemic-hits/ |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Steve Shaw Date: 03 Mar 20 - 11:15 AM Or you could sing it to Hubert Blaine Wolfeschlegelsteinhausenbergerdorff Sr., a German-born American typesetter...You'd have to be respectful and sing "Happy birthday dear Mr Wolfeschlegelsteinhausenbergerdorff Sr.", not "Hubert..." |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: robomatic Date: 03 Mar 20 - 12:01 PM Oh will it never end? I used to save the environment and 10 whole cents by bringing my own mug into Starbucks. Was just informed that now it must be sanitized by Starbucks personnel first. Even If I've already done. . . because how can they know? I believe that this may have happened eventually, but is brought to currency by current events. Or is it just Super Tuesday? |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Donuel Date: 03 Mar 20 - 12:24 PM Robomatic, YOUR QUESTION IS VALID. Just like the flu is endemic every winter season, Corona virus has a similar potential to always be among us. It is NOT likely Covid 19 could be eternally endemic. There is hope we will eventually create a one vaccine - cures all flu mutations. As long as we dare speak of worst case scenarios remember we as human beings have reduced ourselves down to only one species. Many millenia ago we had 4 or 5 different human species. Most outbreaks are species specific. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Donuel Date: 03 Mar 20 - 12:32 PM In the meantime 80% of the time when somone is infected they won't even know. |
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Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic From: Rain Dog Date: 03 Mar 20 - 12:42 PM Everyone just needs to calm down a bit Uk Government announces new measures to ensure calm |