BS: New rules of the road for the UK

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 03 Feb 22 - 05:38 PM

Don’t forget you have friends here too, Eliza. Take care, and be safe dear lady.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Mr Red
Date: 03 Feb 22 - 05:53 PM

When I walk rural roads I step onto the verge as cars approach, it is courtesy for the vehicles, and safety for me. It is actually safer to do that if there is sufficient verge than look behind for other cars.

The statistics run to about 50% thank you on narrow roads, and 10-20% on fast roads.

But the law has always said "Give way to pedestrians at all times". And the hierarchy of: people, cyclists, (horses?), mobility vehicles, motorbikes etc has also been around a long time. But in reality it is a jungle out there.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Senoufou
Date: 04 Feb 22 - 03:30 AM

Thank you for the good wishes everyone.
A neighbour has already had problems with passing cyclists on our narrow country lanes. (She has a little fruit-and-veg delivery business in her small car, and travels all over Breckland several times a week)
She feels that the cyclists now have a rather arrogant attitude, and ride three/four abreast, so overtaking is nigh on impossible. They have a smug expression and seem to be delighted to obstruct the motorists legally! This has put me off a bit from starting to drive again, but I will soon.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 04 Feb 22 - 07:44 AM

Sorry to hear of your situation, Senofou. Hope your good friends and neighbours will look after you well.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Howard Jones
Date: 04 Feb 22 - 09:11 AM

Most of the new rules were already good practice and anyway common sense, but the new Highway Code has drawn more attention to them. Some do concern me though.

In my car, the Dutch Reach doesn't work as my rear view is obstructed by the door pillar, whereas the mirrors give a good view.

The rule about bikes going straight at a junction having priority is badly thought out. Of course the common situation where a car passes a cyclist and then cuts them off should be avoided, but this could encourage bikes to undertake, which is inevitably dangerous.

The rule about giving way to pedestrians about to cross at a junction is also badly thought out. If I'm a pedestrian I want cars to be out of the way before I cross, especially as this doesn't give me priority over cars coming the other way. As a driver, I don't want to be rear-ended by the car behind, or overtaken by an impatient idiot, because I've had to stop for a pedestrian. To add to the uncertainty, the rule says "should" rather than "must", so no one can be sure what will happen.

I can imagine a cross-roads busy with both vehicles and pedestrians becoming completely seized up as all the vehicles turning left from all four roads have to give way to the streams of pedestrians.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Feb 22 - 10:31 AM

If I'm turning left off a main road and I spot a pedestrian waiting to cross the side road, it may not be safe for me to stop because it would represent an unexpected or capricious manoeuvre to vehicles behind. Generally, I nearly always let pedestrians cross, no matter what the rules are. It's sometimes just a question of, er, common sense...

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 04 Feb 22 - 03:52 PM

Crikey I'm agreeing with you again Steve!!

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 05 Feb 22 - 12:55 PM

Just saw this on FarceBook (button it, Steve!). Something I hadn’t thought of (and I suspect not many other sighted people have, either)…

”With regards to the new road rules about waiting for pedestrians to cross, I have this from a lady pointing out something I wouldn’t have thought of……
Can I please point out that those of us working Assistance Dogs and Guide dogs have our dogs trained to wait at kerbs until NO cars are present. Our dogs won't cross with us until cars drive on past. This new rule means drivers will stop and try to wave us across. Please be aware we won't cross the road and you will only hold us up. Best to drive on past if u see a vested working dog knowing this is more helpful to us. Thank you. Any more info feel free to check out my Assistance Dog Milly-Bears Instagram @sarahandpinkdog.”

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 Feb 22 - 01:18 PM

Let common sense prevail.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 05 Feb 22 - 01:22 PM

”Let common sense prevail.

Meaning...what, precisely?

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 Feb 22 - 01:55 PM

Drive with kindness and courtesy and do more then the rules at times but let circumstances dictate. And don't collect as many bloody speeding points as I have...

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 05 Feb 22 - 02:24 PM

I agree with all of that, but the point of my post was that a guide/assistance dog will NOT move or allow it’s human to move if there’s a vehicle present and, being unable to see the vehicle, the dog’s handler doesn’t necessarily know what threat the dog has perceived. Mrs Backwoodsperson knows a person who is seriously visually impaired and has a guide-dog, and they have confirmed the difficulty the new rule presents to the guide-dog user. But would the average driver know how to deal with this situation (FWIW, I’m quite conflicted over what action I would take).

So my question would be what, in this situation, would ‘common sense’ consist of?

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 05 Feb 22 - 04:48 PM

You mean blind?

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 05 Feb 22 - 06:10 PM

If I’d meant ‘blind’, I’d have said ‘blind’ Bonz. Here, read this and educate yourself…

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 Feb 22 - 08:12 PM

Jaysus. Just slow down, assess what's going on, always give whoever's on the pavement the benefit and proceed accordingly. My home town is a retirement area, replete with elderly and disabled people and narrow, busy streets. I may be a speed merchant on the A30 dual and the M5, but I know how to behave in town. If I see a child, a lady with a pram or pushchair, a mobility scooter, an elderly person, or just anybody really, I stop and let them go. If I see a person with a guide dog I can work out what to do. None of this ever makes me get anywhere any slower. And I'll tell you what: I get smiled at far more often than I do on this bloody website! It's worth it just for that, and, one day, it'll be me at the mercy of the cars...

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 06 Feb 22 - 01:33 AM

”If I see a person with a guide dog I can work out what to do.”

So, within the constraints placed by the new rules, precisely what would you do to ‘give whoever's on the pavement the benefit and proceed accordingly’ when the person waiting to cross is blind/visually impaired and unable to see and understand what you’re doing or what signals you might be making, and his/her assistance dog is doing exactly as it was trained to do and refusing to cross the road because of the presence of your vehicle? How would you safely solve the impasse (bearing in mind that the situation may be complicated by there being other traffic around) whilst acting within the restrictions of the new rules? How would you communicate your intentions to a guide-dog, who understands only that he/she must not cross when vehicles are present, and to his/her blind/visually-impaired handler who places his trust, and thus his life, on the dog doing precisely as it was trained to do?

Bear in mind that this change in the rules is a genuine concern for guide-dog users, disadvantaged as they are when compared to sighted pedestrians (my wife’s friend has confirmed that it’s so) and that not all drivers are as cautious or considerate as you.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 06 Feb 22 - 03:50 AM

If the guide dog wants to wait I am sure if would be acceptable for the driver to proceed slowly and carefully. The object of the new rules is to give pedestrians priority and that includes to option to cross only when they believe it is safe. As a pedestrian I would wait until I was sure anyway. As a driver I would be happy if the pedestrian, or guide dog in this case, let me go first.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: The Sandman
Date: 06 Feb 22 - 04:26 AM

I had an accident with another cyclist tecently , this idiot overtook me without giving a warning he was there, no shout or bell ring, at that point a weasel ran across the road in front of me so i swerved to avoid it, i turned to my right and knocked the quiet racing cyclist idiot off his bike.
i find cyclists who ride two or three abreast inconsiderate, but then some other car drivers are inconsiderate too, particularly those that overtake in dangerous places like bends

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 06 Feb 22 - 05:53 AM

There’s a very good reason for cyclists riding two or three abreast - it makes them more visible to drivers of motor-vehicles, and therefore less likely to be hit by said motor-vehicles. It’s a well-thought-out safety tactic.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Harry Rivers
Date: 06 Feb 22 - 06:05 AM

As far as I can see, the trouble with these "new rules" is that no one seemed inclined to enforce the old ones so what hope is there of these new ones making any difference at all.

The only hierarchy of the road seems to be one of bullying:

Cyclists bully pedestrians
Car drivers bully cyclists and pedestrians
Lorry drivers bully car drivers, cyclists and pedestrians.

As for common sense, I'm not sure the human species is capable of it.

When I learned to drive, over 45 years ago, my instructor told me the number one rule of the road is: Everyone out there is an idiot - expect them to behave as such. It has served me well.

In Carlisle, the main drag for pubs and clubs, Botchergate, is closed to all traffic on Friday and Saturday nights. Every other hour, of every of the day, cyclists, car drivers and van/lorry drivers seem to be allowed to drive on the pavements. Pedestrians only get protection if they're pissed.

Also, I'd be interested know, when did the zig-zags at pedestrian crossings become "Designated parking for Greggs"? Has it been codified in the "new rules"?

Rant over - back to 'lurking'!

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Feb 22 - 06:31 AM

I'm mostly with Harry there. I don't think most people are going to dash out to get a Highway Code or peruse it online. Rules are fine until there are so many that you can't remember 'em. And all those diagrams that make the streets and the vehicles look so regular and lovely... The last thing I think of when I'm a pedestrian is what the rules are. It takes two to tango... I know I've railed against "common sense" before, but I still think it's valid here. Keep the rules lurking but wrap them up in courtesy, consideration, kindness and caution, then we'll all be OK. But if you see a beaten-up silver Ford Focus bombing along the M5 20mph too fast, it's probably me. I have the points to prove it...

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: The Sandman
Date: 06 Feb 22 - 08:53 AM

what makes cyclists more visible is hi vis jackets and good cycle lights.
there is notning wrong with riding two abreast if the cyclist then moves in to allow cars to overtake when overtaking is sensible,
cycling two abreast is, when there are cars behind, who clearly want to overtake when it is safe to do so, ,is a tactic that is not safe and only winds up car drivers even more, if cylists have the courtesy to move in, car drivers in my experience respond by allowing them more room ,courtesy encourages courtesy in others

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 06 Feb 22 - 01:06 PM

I prefer to demur to the judgment of the professionals - people who actually understand and know what they’re talking about…

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/latest-news/why-do-cyclists-ride-side-by-side-306024

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: The Sandman
Date: 06 Feb 22 - 02:21 PM

YOU MISSED MY POINT. quote
what makes cyclists more visible is hi vis jackets and good cycle lights.
there is notning wrong with riding two abreast if the cyclist then moves in to allow cars to overtake when overtaking is sensible,
cycling two abreast is, when there are cars behind, who clearly want to overtake when it is safe to do so,
1.there is nothing wrong with riding two abreast if the cyclist then moves in to allow cars to overtake when overtaking is sensible.
2- it is about moving in to allow cars to overtake when it is sensible to do so..
3, the problem is not cyclists riding two abreats so oncoming traffic can see them , it is WHAT THEY DO NEXT... DO THEY SHOW COURTESY.and pull in to allow car drivers to overtake some do [theyare the courteous ones some do not.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: The Sandman
Date: 06 Feb 22 - 02:40 PM

Courtesy, is a two way phenomenon, i have found if you are courteous on the roads generally people are courteous back, if you are aggressive the respons, is often a return of aggression.
Backwoodsman, this is an important philosophy, think about it, before you write about professionals

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Mr Red
Date: 06 Feb 22 - 02:56 PM

Courtesy, is a two way phenomenon, i have found if you are courteous on the roads generally people are courteous back,

"generally" is not helpful. The aggressive drivers just take advantage. It is how accidents happen. Eventually two aggressive drivers meet.

As Harry says, treat 'em all as if............
You don't have to get your revenge in - first.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: robomatic
Date: 06 Feb 22 - 03:21 PM

As far as driving goes, I think of courtesy as a necessity, not an option. When I was young I 'thought as a child'. I let my emotions make driving decisions. I thought I could "teach them a lesson.". I haven't been young for some time now, but I had to actually make a vow that I would not give 'the finger' under any conditions. Since I feel I have to respond in some way, when someone gives me the finger I try to smile and wave.

I decided a long time ago the only lessons to be learned would be by me.

I have been a biker and I have been a motorcyclist. If I was now I'd be even more careful than ever before since everyone is on the phone or worse. And by now I've known several fine people who've died on two wheels. And even witnessed it happen right in front of me.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 06 Feb 22 - 03:45 PM

”YOU MISSED MY POINT. quote”

1) There’s absolutely no reason for you to SHOUT at me - I haven’t SHOUTED at you, I’m not deaf, and SHOUTING in no way adds any weight to the point you’re trying to make.

2) I didn’t miss your point at all, I simply linked to an article in ‘Cycling Weekly - the UK’s leading cycling journal - in which several reasons are given by expert cyclists why, in most circumstances, it is safer for cyclists in a group to remain two abreast - safer for both the cyclists and the motorist wishing to overtake - and acknowledges the rarer occasions when dropping back to single file makes more sense. Are you sure it’s not you who has ‘missed the point’?

”what makes cyclists more visible is hi vis jackets and good cycle lights.”

I made no comment on that point because I don’t dispute it, it makes perfect sense.

”there is notning wrong with riding two abreast if the cyclist then moves in to allow cars to overtake when overtaking is sensible,
cycling two abreast is, when there are cars behind, who clearly want to overtake when it is safe to do so,
1.there is nothing wrong with riding two abreast if the cyclist then moves in to allow cars to overtake when overtaking is sensible.
2- it is about moving in to allow cars to overtake when it is sensible to do so..
3, the problem is not cyclists riding two abreats so oncoming traffic can see them , it is WHAT THEY DO NEXT... DO THEY SHOW COURTESY.and pull in to allow car drivers to overtake some do [theyare the courteous ones some do not.”

1) I refer you to my point (2) above, and to the piece I linked to which explains in detail why, in most circumstances, it is safer for both the cyclists and the motorists when the cyclists continue to cycle two abreast. It makes perfect sense, and I recommend you to take the trouble to read it.

2) You resorted to SHOUTING once again. I repeat - there is no need to SHOUT, I’m not deaf, I’m far from stupid, and SHOUTING adds no weight to your arguments whatsoever.

Have a nice evening.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: The Sandman
Date: 06 Feb 22 - 04:02 PM

I did read it and it misses my point which yet again i will illustrate with the following comment... please read it
quote from... highway code

When tractors and other slow moving vehicles don't pull over when they have the chance to do so, in order to let traffic past, they can cause obstructions and long tailbacks, and they may be committing offence.” The Highway Code asks slow moving vehicles to pull in when safe to allow traffic to pass."
cyclista are slow moving vehicles, they are also vulnerable, if they show courtesy to cars and take the advice of the highway code, they are likely to be shown more courtesy
I happen to know a cyclist who has told me that he would never move over for cars quote "basically they can fuck off", that attitude is against the spirit of the highway code and only fuels aggression, it is a stupid attitude because cyclists are vulnerable.
the point is not about cyclists driving in couples   for safety it is about what they do as a slow moving vehicle when trafdfic piles up behind them, that is when they should move over,
That is what i do when i am cycling.WHEN TWO ABREAST i move over in the spirit of the highway code

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 06 Feb 22 - 04:16 PM

Did you read to the end of the linked article? You seem to have missed this piece…

“HOW CYCLISTS LOOK OUT FOR DRIVERS
With all that, it is still important that cyclists are considerate of other road users and adjust their riding appropriately.

When a car is behind that could get past if riders are in single file, but not when riding two abreast, then riders at the back of the group should shout "car up" which will then alert the other riders, who should move into single file when it is safe for the car to pass.

As a final point, it's worth remembering that the vast majority of cyclists also drive a car, so understand why being stuck behind a group of cyclists might be frustrating.

A group of cyclists is much more likely to quickly move out of the way and signal that it's clear to pass when a motorist is sitting patiently behind rather than revving the engine and sounding the horn.”

That’s my last response, I’ve given you the views of expert/professional cyclists which make absolute sense. Whether you choose to accept or reject their opinions is up to you, but I’m not inclined to be provoked into getting involved in one of your tiresome, endless, pointless arguments.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: The Sandman
Date: 06 Feb 22 - 04:28 PM

When tractors and other slow moving vehicles don't pull over when they have the chance to do so, in order to let traffic past, they can cause obstructions and long tailbacks, and they may be committing offence.” The Highway Code asks slow moving vehicles to pull in when safe to allow traffic to pass."
cyclists are slow moving vehicles,
quote Backwoodsman. "but I’m not inclined to be provoked into getting involved in one of your tiresome, endless, pointless arguments."
The above is an example of your trolling and flaming.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Charmion's brother Andrew
Date: 06 Feb 22 - 06:07 PM

What is a "parallel crossing?" It is not a term in use in Ontario.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 06 Feb 22 - 06:31 PM

Backwoodsman: Did you read to the end of the linked article? You seem to have missed this piece…

“HOW CYCLISTS LOOK OUT FOR DRIVERS

I searched for that in the 'Highway Code', and found very little.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 Feb 22 - 12:03 AM

I’m not really surprised by that, Nigel. The piece I quoted being from an article in a periodical written by, and for, members of the cycling fraternity, I’m sure it’s advice based on serious cyclists’ experience and good old-fashioned common sense.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 Feb 22 - 02:29 AM

”What is a "parallel crossing?" It is not a term in use in Ontario.”

I don’t recall seeing any British-style crossings during my several visits to Ontario (Oakville, Burlington, Tronno, Hamilton, Stratford, et al). It’s explained here…

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 Feb 22 - 02:36 AM

And I think it’s worth saying that motorists’ attitudes to pedestrians are very different in Canada to our own here in the UK - on my first visit to Canada, back in 2005, I was astonished to find that drivers routinely and courteously pull up to allow pedestrians to cross the road. The courtesy of Canadian drivers puts most UK drivers to shame IMHO.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Senoufou
Date: 07 Feb 22 - 03:45 AM

My good friends-across-the-road took me out yesterday to the supermarket in Fakenham, and there were a number of agricultural vehicles trundling along slowly. They are indeed supposed to pull in frequently, to allow traffic to pass, but of course they didn't.
We spent a lot of time plodding along behind a huge cattle truck, then two tractors in procession, a huge cylinder of 'ferrloiser' being towed by another tractor and several other obstacles. I'm so scared to restart my driving and having to deal with these situations. Overtaking them on narrow country roads with many bends is terrifying.
Should I boi a boik? (Sorry about this Norfolkspeak - I pick it up from my friends after being in their company)

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: The Sandman
Date: 07 Feb 22 - 03:48 AM

ha ha
your quote is debatable,
experienced drivers can spot a single file of 4 cyclists as easily as two pairs , i have been driving since 1968, further more if cyclists are in pairs they are more likely to be engrossed in conversation than if they are in single file, if they are in conversation they are less likely to be paying attention to road drivers, so being safer is open to debate, wearing high vis jackets and having good lighting and pasying attention and courtesy to other road users including pedestrians is what ensures their safety not driving in pairs.
i notice that motorcyclists drive in single file here in ireland.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: The Sandman
Date: 07 Feb 22 - 04:01 AM

Senoutou , just carry on driving with caution and courtesy for others, you have experience that is important.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 07 Feb 22 - 10:38 AM

Cyclists are not always "slow moving vehicles" - at least, around here they are not! Emerging from our side street on to an A road in my car, carefully keeping just on the 30 mph limit, there's a downhill stretch where speeding cyclists often overtake or "undertake" cars. At their own risk, as the road is also riddled with potholes: one such cyclist hit one and flew through the air, eventually landing up on the pavement on the opposite side of the road! Luckily no traffic coming the other way as he hurtled across.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Feb 22 - 10:46 AM

It used to be a good afternoons entertainment to sit at the bottom of the very steep Winnat's Pass in Castleton and watch the high speed cyclists panic when they spotted the cattle grid at the end :-D

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 Feb 22 - 10:52 AM

Been there (many, many times!), done that, Dave!

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: BobL
Date: 08 Feb 22 - 04:12 AM

My own experience was that on a bike, whether push- or motor-, I was a lot more aware of what was going on around me than when I progressed to being shut in a metal box (which might have been behind my preference for soft-tops).

Over the years I discovered several occasions when one might have to drive slowly, such as searching for something along the route or trying to get to the next filling station with the electric petrol pump rattling ominously as it starts to pump air. Eventually, I came to regard driving as a team activity - it's not you versus the other road users, it's you and them together, versus the clock. And the clock is not in a hurry.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Tunesmith
Date: 10 Feb 22 - 06:12 PM

It's interesting about the new rule about giving way to pedestrians when turning at a junction because nobody took any notice of the old rule about giving way to pedestrians who were already crossing the road.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Senoufou
Date: 12 Feb 22 - 05:46 AM

Well, yesterday I 'pulled up my big girl's pants', got into my little Fiesta and drove the thirteen miles over to the supermarket. Surprisingly, the 'knack' had never left me, and it all seemed to be fairly straightforward. No cyclists about (a working day) and very few cars on the road.
Parking was trouble-free, and I got back to my village with the groceries feeling very triumphant!
Neighbour made me a celebratory cup of tea, and I now feel I can do this every week.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 12 Feb 22 - 05:49 AM

Congratulations, Sen!

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Senoufou
Date: 12 Feb 22 - 05:54 AM

Hee hee thank you Backwoodsman! I suppose it's like riding a bike, roller-skating or swimming, one never really loses the knack.
I quite agree that one must give cyclists, pedestrians, horses etc a wide berth when overtaking - seems blooming obvious to me!
My father used to say that one drives according to ones character - aggressive and pushy, timid and hesitant, devil-may-care etc. and I think he was right.
I even got my Fiesta back into my garage (it's rather a narrow doorway!)
Another celebratory crumpet later I think!

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 13 Feb 22 - 04:24 PM

98...

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 13 Feb 22 - 06:29 PM

The new rules (Highway Code)has a number of serious ommissio0ns which put the lives of pedestrians in danger. I would add:

(1) Pedestrians who are using the pavement are personally responsible for ensuring their own safety and must always ensure that they provide adequate space to ensure that cyclists and electric scooter riders illegally riding on the pavement are not inconvenienced.

(2) There is no obligation for motorists and cyclists to stop at pedestrians controlled crossings as they do not risk collision with another vehicle. Pedestrians should wait for all oncoming traffic to stop before attempting to cross the road, and pedestrians should never cross when traffic has stopped in case cyclists and electric scooter users decide to pass stopped vehicles and jump the lights.

(3) Motor cycles and moped delivering fast food have priority to park on the pavement while waiting for next deliveries over pedestrians walking on the pavement. If pedestrians are forced to walk in the road, they have right of way over motor vehicles using the road.

Probably many more omissions but these are all I can think of for the moment.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules of the road for the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Feb 22 - 07:29 PM

The last time I looked at a Highway Code properly was when I was seventeen and five months old, in the waiting room waiting for the examiner to call me in. It was in Bury, a week before Christmas, and it was sleeting, and I did my emergency stop on a cobbled back street. That was fifty-three years ago (I passed first time). Driving is a learning curve and a gig unto itself and it can't be expressed in a theoretical little book full of neat diagrams which show roads and cars as they are not. I know the rules of the road and I get bloody annoyed with many a driver, but I know that consideration to other road and footpath users is the name of the game and costs nothing. The most important thing is to pay attention to what you're doing behind the wheel as though it is the very first time you got to drive without your L plates on.