Who Wrote Molly Malone?

Subject: RE: Help: Who wrote Molly Malone?
From: GUEST,me
Date: 30 Sep 06 - 12:49 AM

where can i find a more energized molly malone and not these
gay slow singing ones i need so energy to show pride for the irish

Subject: RE: Help: Who wrote Molly Malone?
From: MartinRyan
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 01:24 PM

Mr. Red

No argument on Wild Rover - but you're wrong on "bodhrán"!

Regards

Subject: RE: Help: Who wrote Molly Malone?
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 10:05 AM

There was an early version mentioned in Samuel Pepys diary in 1665. He mentioned it had been collected at least 2 centuries earlier in what Nostradamus predicted would be called "French West Africa" by the well known (at the time) folklorist called Hyman of Maidenhead. (His work had at first been denegrated and he died a broken man ;-) But later, after he died, he was venerated.---Ain't that always the way it goes down???

Is this the original version of the song? Who can say? Might be. Might not be.

We had best keep looking!!

BUT some (mainly Bob Sukiel and Ed Cray) said it was a bawdy song originally. How better to explain the really not-so-strange "cockles" in the song. "Muscles", I've come to BELIEVE, referred to the original rape in the Book of Thomas that's left out of the Bible usually.---That was the actual original sin. It makes the Garden Of Eden tall tale infinitely boring.

AND this song truly EVOLVED !!! There was no intelligent design about it !!!!!!!!!! And you can quote me.

ART THIEME

Subject: RE: Help: Who wrote Molly Malone?
From: Mr Red
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 09:17 AM

Yea I asked this yonks ago and was not the first.............

But it does not stop the tourist industry in Ireland claiming to have the original grave etc etc.

Mind you, what kind of reaction would we get if I mentioned the earliest record of the Wild Rover as being in Norfolk?

or the earliest record of the word Bodhran as being 1950 (ish)though the Dorset Riddle drum is more than 170 years old (by documentation)

search and discuss...................

Subject: RE: Help: Who wrote Molly Malone?
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 05 Nov 05 - 01:53 PM

WYSIWYG's account is the best. I plan to stick with it.

Subject: RE: Help: Who wrote Molly Malone?
From: GUEST,Billy O'Clinton
Date: 05 Nov 05 - 12:13 PM

I'd hit it.

Subject: RE: Help: Who wrote Molly Malone?
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 27 Feb 00 - 04:50 AM

I guess to round off this thread there seems to be ample evidence that this song was weitten by James Yorkston, a Scot. He may never have visited Dublin and indeed Molly Malone may have been a convenient Irish name to place in what was essentially a pop tune of the time. Regards, John

Subject: RE: Help: Who wrote Molly Malone?
From: GUEST,JTT
Date: 26 Feb 00 - 04:38 PM

Don't know who wrote it, but there's a rumour in Dublin that the song was written about Mary Mallon, otherwise known as Typhoid Mary, a Dublin-born cook who was kept in solitary confinement for many years because people in households where she cooked twice got typhoid: like many others at the time she was a carrier, though she never herself got the disease.

Subject: RE: Help: Who wrote Molly Malone?
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 26 Feb 00 - 07:17 AM

Thanks George, I had missed the previous discussion. Regards, John

Subject: RE: Help: Who wrote Molly Malone?
From: Molly Malone
Date: 25 Feb 00 - 11:08 AM

Yikes! Maybe I should change my name?

*BG*

Subject: RE: Help: Who wrote Molly Malone?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 25 Feb 00 - 11:06 AM

Tune by Cockle, lyrics by Mussel. Cobbled up for a live performance at the last minute when the next band due onstage was running late. Molly was a groupie the band lusted after so it was tagged for her. Audience loved it, couldn't stop singing the chorus over and over again, weeping. Thus becoming stuck in everyone's head, generation passing it down through race memory to generations following. That's why everyone knows the song.