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Mitchell Trio Songbook?

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AWAY WITH RUM
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FALL RIVER HOEDOWN (Lizzie Borden)
GREEN GROW THE LILACS
HANG ON THE BELL
MIGHTY DAY
PUTTING ON THE STYLE
SONG FOR CANADA
THE JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY
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Subject: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: folk1234
Date: 15 Mar 00 - 12:31 PM

Is there such a thing? Does anyone have it? How, where can I get a copy?
While searching the web re: Chad Mitchell Trio, I came across a reference to The Introduction to the Mitchell Trio Song Book written by Robert Shelton. I clicked it and I was lead to a no longer active "...geocities......" url. I searched the various book sellers, Mitchell Trio, Chad, John Denver, folkera, etc, and rediscover music, with no positive results.
I'm a long time fan of the CMT, (later the MT) but I've never heard of a song book. Any clues from 'cat land?


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Barbara
Date: 15 Mar 00 - 01:25 PM

I've got one, folk1234, and I'll look it up in the archives i.e. basement and tell you the publishing info on it. You want one song in particular or the whole book? If its totally out of print and unfindable we could work out something with a xerox and a donation to Mudcat, hey? Or maybe a trade for some CMT tapes of things I no longer have playable vinyl for.
It's big format, as I recall 12"x17" or so.
Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Barbara
Date: 15 Mar 00 - 02:50 PM

Here we go, folk. (Cough, sniff) The Mitchell Trio Songbook, c 1964, has songs thru Reflecting. 35 songs, sheet music and guitar chords, 144 pages. Quadrangle Books, Inc. 180 North Wacker Drive, Chicago 60606. Music edited by Walter Raim.
Want to know how old it is? It cost $2.95. And it is just 9 x 12, my memory made it larger.
Ready to deal?
Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: folk1234
Date: 15 Mar 00 - 03:59 PM

Thanks, Barbara. So there IS a Mitchell Trio Songbook.
You got a deal! Barbara - Just name your price. $2.95 invested wisely in 1964 can equal about $ 7,347,289.27 today. I'll write you an IOU and sell my soul to the Mudcat Cafe.
I don't know what songs I want, 'cause I don't know what songs are in the book. I like almost everything they did. I threw away all my vinyl albums about 10 years ago. However, I have many of the CMT (very little, if any, MT) albums on tape or remastered CD. I also have their 2 reunion videos. I'll inventory my CMT stuff tonight and let you know what I have.
I also tasked my wife, the librarian, with finding the book. It seems that Quadrangle Books is no longer in business, at least not in Chicago.


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 15 Mar 00 - 04:41 PM

I don't know if this link will work, but I did find one copy of the Mitchell Trio Songbook through www.bookfinder.com. You could give it a click and see if you're interested. Mind you, this is from the "Mitchell Trio" days, after Chad left. I can type up the list of songs if you'd like. I paid $1.50 for my copy (way back in 1999), so I can't complain too much about it. Most likely, Barbara's book will be better for you.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: GUEST,hollowfox
Date: 15 Mar 00 - 06:49 PM

If it's truly out-of-print (like this book), and it's not going to go back in print (like this book), try getting it on interlibrary loan, then photocopy it.
Duplicate messages deleted.
-Joe Offer, at your service-


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 15 Mar 00 - 07:47 PM

I was wrong - the "Mitchell Trio Songbook" which I have is the same as Barbara's, and it does come from the time before John Denver replaced Chad Mitchell in the Trio. To my great and eternal disappointment, it doesn't have my favorite CMT song, FALL RIVER HOEDOWN (Lizzie Borden). Of course, being the world's greatest songbook, the Digital Tradition has the lyrics for the song.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: raredance
Date: 15 Mar 00 - 11:44 PM

This is still painful to talk about. I had a Mitchell Trio Songbook. It may have been the first songbook I ever bought. They were my favorite group at the time. While in college in 1968, I loaned it to someone who was in a college sponsored summer music/drama group and have not seen it since. (I don't want to appear to be harboring some deep seated hatred, but the initials of the person who lost or kept it are C.Z.) My Mitchell Trio hex continued in 1974 when my complete set of their LPs was among a considerable amount of things stolen from a nation wide moving company during a cross country move. (I don't want to appear to be harboring some deep seated hatred, but the initials of the moving company are AVL). I have managed to replace all of the LPs, added the three reunion CDs and some items that contain one or two CMT songs not found elsewhere (Belafonte concert has 3 songs, John Denver "Bginnings" has two tracks not on other albums, recent "Best of CMT: Mercury Years" has two songs that previously existed only on 45). But back to the book, I still don't have the book. I also have reason to believe that there were at least two books. The book I had, had a red cover and was paper bound. Last summer, I saw (and failed to win) one on Ebay that had a black cover and appeared to contain more songs, certainly some different songs than the one that had owned. I also believe something very serious should befall those who have Mitchell Trio Song Books tucked away in dusty, dank, probably vermin-ridden cellars where they can't even be seen.

rich r


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Barbara
Date: 16 Mar 00 - 02:16 AM

Mine has a black cover and is paper bound. It might just be it's the 3rd edition, not the first. Says you can get it in cloth for $6.95. It contains words and music for:
    The John Birch Society
    Alberta
    Maladyozhenaya
    The Banks of Sicily
    Green Grow the Lilacs
    You Can Tell the World
    The Virgin Mary
    Alma Mater
    Mighty Day
    Me Voy Pa Bete
    I Feel So Good About It
    What Did You Learn in School Today?
    Tell Old Bill
    Rum By Gum
    The Golden Vanity
    The Ides of Texas
    The HIp Song
    Bonny Streets of Fyve-io
    The Story of Alice
    Paddy West
    Ain't No More Cane On These Brazos
    Moscow Nights
    Super Skier
    The Unfortunate Man
    Whup Jamboree
    Rally Round The Flag (medley with In The Summer of His Years
    Hello Susan Brown
    The Marvelous Toy
    Queen Elinor's Confession
    James James Morrison Morrison
    Last Night I Had the Strangest Dream
    Johnnie
    Tail Toddle
    An Irish Song (Rickety Tickety Tin)
    The Twelve Days of Christmas

Possibly this one came out after JFK was shot, and the other editions were before (this has songs about that). Hence the cover change, and new text.
Talk to me about photocopies if you can't find one for sale, but it looks like I paid $1.50 for this used.
There ya go, and that's all the typing I'll do for tonight, thank yew veddy much!
Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 16 Mar 00 - 02:24 AM

Gee, Rich, I'm sorry, but I guess I have to admit some satisfaction in having at least one songbook you don't have…
Mine is the red paperback published by Quadrangle books in 1964, cover price $2.95 ($6.95 hardbound). Sounds like the same one that's for sale online for twelve bucks, except that one for sale is hardcover. Here are the songs in my book:
The John Birch Society
Alberta
Maladyozhenaya
The Banks of Sicily
Green Grow the Lilacs
You Can Tell the World
The Virgin Mary
Alma Mater
Mighty Day
Me Voy Pa Bété
I Feel So Good About It
What Did You Learn in School Today?
Tell Old Bill
Rum By Gum
The Golden Vanity
The Ides of Texas
The Hip Song
Bonny Streets of Fyve-io
The Story of Alice
Paddy West
Ain't No More Cane On This Brazos
Moscow Nights
Super Skier
The Unfortunate Man
Whup Jamboree
Rally Round the Flag (medley with In the Summer of his Years)
Hello, Susan Brown
The Marvelous Toy
Queen Elinor's Confession
James James Morrison Morrison
Last Night I Had the Strangest Dream
Johnnie
Tail Toddle
An Irish Song
The Twelve Days of Christmas
Now you know what you're missing, Rich.
-Joe Offer (gloating)-
...but now I've been punished for gloating, by needlessly typing the exact same thing Barbara typed...


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Mar 00 - 08:53 AM

Two things proven here;

1. I obviously should know better than to judge a book by it's cover.

2. CMT book owners are clearly duplicitous ;-}


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: catspaw49
Date: 16 Mar 00 - 10:06 AM

I've enjoyed this thread as I used to enjoy the trio both with and without Chad Mitchell. Rich, your tale is quite familiar to me!!! I really wish I had both the book and the vinyl again. The first album my family ever purchased in the folk scare was CMT and some of the political songs were very much favorites of mine in the sixties. Billie Sol was really funny, but unfortunately now dated. Does anybody even remember who he was today? Oh well..........

Good group, good songs, and a nice mix of trad.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: folk1234
Date: 16 Mar 00 - 10:15 AM

Just what I was looking for. I knew my fellow 'catters would come through.
Joe, you saved me over alot of money! In my haste to get this book, I (kind of) told Barbara that I'd give her an IOU for $ 7,347,289.27. It looks like the one available at Spivey's in KC MO is a hardback. At $12, its a bargin.

Barbara, I went through my tapes & CDs last night, but I left my list at home. I only have a couple of tapes, 5 CDs, and 2 videos. All CMT not MT. I'll let you know what I have. Please email or 'cat mail me with your contact info. I couldn't find you in the resources.
I'm surprised that the songbook, being published in '64, is named "The Mitchell Trio.....". To the best of my knowledge they used "...Chad....." until '66.

Funny story: Back in the summer of '66, my wife (then girl friend) and I went to the Cellar Door in DC to see the CMT. Well, Chad was ill that night, so they had some funny-looking, and even-funnier-sounding, guy with over-size glasses singing with Mike and Joe. It was terrible! They refunded our cover charge, and gave us free passes for another night. Of course you know the rest of the story. The strange guy was none other than John Dusendorff, who grew up to be John Denver.


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Barbara
Date: 16 Mar 00 - 10:17 AM

Funny, 'spaw, I had the same thought when I was looking at "The Ides of Texas" last night. LBJ's, uh, financeer, wasn't he?
You know, some folks who did one album of the same sort of thing that's not QUITE so dated --Ollie North (Ollie, Ollie Off Scott Free), Vladmir Cherenovsky (Russian Limbaugh), Firing the Surgeon General(You can't come in, I'm Firing the Surgeon General) -- are these guys out of LA called the Foremen.
Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Barbara
Date: 16 Mar 00 - 12:24 PM

And yeah, folk1234, I had the same experience, only I heard them in a big hall where I was sitting WAY back and they had this clown in the middle, not Chad, who looked like Howdy Doody. Couldn't sing, either. This is where all the JD fans come out of the woodwork and leap up and down, and say it ain't so. Tough.
Yeah, but Chad's illness had to do with allergies to being confined brought on by too great a quantity of illegal substances found in his vehicle when the Chicago cops pulled him over. Sigh, sure wasn't the same without him.
Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: catspaw49
Date: 16 Mar 00 - 04:59 PM

Where are the true con men today? Lord knows we have plenty of them, but they are seemingly normal people who partake in various larcenies for a living. Where are the kooks like Billie Sol Estes? A complete eccentric who somehow was able to bilk the government for big bucks in the most ridiculous schemes imaginable.

Billie Sol was from dirt poor beginnings but even from an early age showed a talent for making money, legally or otherwise. He had amassed his first fortune before he was 21, but he was never a normal person. He wanted to be "Murchison rich" as he phrased it, but even after he had money, he could never pull off the dress and manners to be accepted in the upper classes to which he aspired.

Trying to play in politics, he approached the Stevenson campaign with an idea of his own. He would get backers to purchase and train thousands of parakeets to say "I like Adlai" while flying in great flocks over rallies. He was completely serious and no one could make him understand that every phase of his plan was impossible.

The scam which eventually brought him down involved enlisting farmers to not build non-existent tanks to store anhydrous ammonia fertilizer. The government would pay for the storage. The farmers picked up a few bucks and had done nothing illegal. Billie on the other hand was being paid to store millions of gallons of non-existent fertilizer, which came from his non-existent plants, in non-existent tanks. The government, upon learning of all this, tried to subsidize him even more to rectify the situation! It was like Billie Sol was fond of saying, "Once you pass a certain point, you not only lose a creditor, but gain a pardner."

All the insider scandals and the Whitewater type things were nothing compared to Billie Sol Estes, a true con man with panache.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: MarciaP
Date: 16 Mar 00 - 05:10 PM

Folk1234,

I love Spivey's!!!

Just my two cents

Marcia


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 16 Mar 00 - 07:26 PM

Didn't one member of the Chad Mitchell Trio become an Episcopalian priest? I looked around and couldn't find anything to verify that. I did find an interesting history of the group at All-Music Guide (click) but didn't find anything about the priest bit.
It is rumored that one of our Mudcatters knows everything there is to be known about Episcopalian priests. Maybe she'll enlighten us.
Chad Mitchell himself recorded one so-so CD, Virgo Moon, in 1991. Sometime along the way, he became Entertainment Director for the Delta Queen riverboat company in Louisiana.
Oh, here is - Joe Frazier became an Episcopalian priest and was assigned to a parish in California. The trio got its start with the Jesuits - original members Mitchell, Mike Kobluk, and Mike Pugh were members of the glee club at Gonzaga University in Spokane, Washington; and a priest helped them get their first booking in New York.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: folk1234
Date: 17 Mar 00 - 10:00 AM

As I recall, one of the trio was born "about 10,000 years ago, there weren't nothing in this world he don't know". Another, "built the pyramidis for all the Pharo's kiddies". And one had some kind of affair with Queen Elizabeth in Milwaukee. Which one's the priest?


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: CBjames
Date: 17 Mar 00 - 11:15 PM

I was'nt there at the time. I think I was 14 years old and living as an Army brat (well RCAF brat really) in northeast France.

I did hear a song attributed to Chad Mitchell's Trio - and it must be about my only recollection of the group. I don't know the name of the song - I don't see anything in the songbooks listed above which hint at it.

The song was a "talking blues" that went

>> For a long time now I've been aware that I'm so hip, the rest of the world is square.

I want to tell all you people, and just take my tip, It doesn't pay to be too hip. <<

Was this really a Chad Mitchell song? or am I fuddled in a thirty year old memory?

It is a great lyric - there is more & I think I even remember most of it - if anyone wants it. It truly is amazing what you remember from when you were young enough that it really mattered. Isn't it?


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Barbara
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 03:51 AM

Now yesterday I found myself sort of in the red
With no immediate way to meet my overhead,
So I walked up to my buddy and asked him for some bread,
And here's what he said...

Well if you mean, did they record it, yes they did.
If you mean, did they write it, no, they didn't, Shel Silverstein did.
And it is in this songbook, if you want the words straight from the horse's mouth. I think I liked "Yazzuh!" better.
Blessings,
Barbara PS folk1234 and rich r, I think you all would do much better to track the book thru bookfinders than to pay me whatever to photocopy this.


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Stewie
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 04:28 AM

It was CHM records that first drew me to folk music and, listening to 'Best Ofs' on CD decades later, their brio still has power. They were very good indeed.

--Stewie.


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Stewie
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 04:32 AM

That should be CMT - I don't know why I typed CHM. I must be cracking up.

--Stewie.


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: folk1234
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 12:36 PM

I ordered the book from Spivey's, and I'm looking forward to learning/relearning many of their great songs. Thanks to all!


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: raredance
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 12:56 PM

Curse you folk4321!

rich r


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: folk1234
Date: 21 Mar 00 - 04:06 PM

I got it, I got IT, I GOT IT, today!,-my own (Chad) Mitchell Trio Song Book!! Great bios of Chad, Mike, and Joe, and history of the trio up to 1964. A 144 page, hardbound edition, originally priced at $ 6.95. I paid all of $ 12.00. Got the book in today's mail from Spivey's Book Store and spent most of the afternoon sitting in my office singing (my colleagues are used to my strange behavior) to myself and day-dreaming of those long ago days. Thanks again to all for your help.


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: catspaw49
Date: 21 Mar 00 - 04:09 PM

blowhard......braggart..........but congrats anyway.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: raredance
Date: 21 Mar 00 - 11:21 PM

I have nothing to say right now and there I just said it.

rich r


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: catspaw49
Date: 29 Jul 00 - 02:07 PM

refresh


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Shanti
Date: 29 Jul 00 - 05:36 PM

Folk1234

You're in KC right? Spivey's certainly rings bells with me. Great bookstore. Found some fairly obscure things there. Love to look through the shelves.


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: raredance
Date: 29 Jul 00 - 11:49 PM

To this thread I need to add blessings to Barbara

rich r


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Barbara
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 01:14 AM

Yr welcome, rich r. My photocopied version works fine. I didn't need the *achoo!* original anymore.
Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: folk1234
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 09:45 AM

No Shanti, I'm not in KC. I'm 750 miles south in Ada, OK. But the next time I'm in KC I will make sure I have time to visit Spivey's. It sounds like the type of bookstore in which I'd love to spend several hours.
Thanks for the 'refresh', 'spaw.


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: GUEST,James Gilly
Date: 10 Nov 00 - 08:28 PM

Could one of you who actually has the songbook send me the words to "Maladyozhenaya"? I don't speak Russian (does the songbook perchance include a translation?), so it's a little hard to learn it just by listening, the way I did with their other songs....

James


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Subject: Lyr Add: MALADYOZHENAYA (Chad Mitchell Trio)
From: Barbara
Date: 10 Nov 00 - 10:08 PM

James, the songbook says "this is a happy Russian folk song, song of the new regime, of active revolution; of your that jubilation. It grows out of the revolutionary philosophy: the accent is on the spirit -- our hearts are young, our minds are young, our spirits are flying higher and higher. There are many allegories in it. We got it from the Red Army Chorus."

MALADYOZHENAYA (Red Army Chorus) (Chad Mitchell Trio)

Vyot-sa dym-ka za-la-ta-ya pri-da rozh-na-ya
Oi-ti rad-ast ma-la-da-ya ne-voz mozh-ha-ya
Toch-ne nie-ba vi-sa-ka-ty
toch-na mo-rya shi-ra-ka-ti-ni-o
Byat-na-ya da-ro-ga ma-la-diozh-na-ya.

Ei gran-yem si nye-ye, po-ryay-yem druz-ne-ye
Toch-na nie-ba vi-sa-ka-ti-toch-na mor-ya sh-ra-ka-tini-o
Byar-na-ya da-ro-ga-ma-la diozh-na-ya
La la la la la la -- la la la la la la --
La la la la la la -- La la la la la la --

I left the hyphens in because I thought it might help you find the sound per sylable.
blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Cool Beans
Date: 10 Nov 00 - 10:23 PM

Speaking of Billie Ssol Estes, the late Allen Sherman also made fun of him in this ditty (to the tune of "Billy Boy"): Oh, what have you done, Bilie Sol, Billie Sol Oh, what have you done charming Billy? You took almost every cent From the U.S. government Which you spent on fertilizer, which is silly.

The Chad Mitchell Trio recorded an album at my alma mater, Brooklyn College. there's a pictureof them on the cover standing on the lawn in front of LaGuardia Hall. Intil the revolution, a few years later, they were only ones who ever got to walk on the campus grass. I used to have the LP but it's gone now. I do have a 45 of "The John Birch Society," which I copied and gave to a collegaue who's working on his master's thesis in history. He was very grateful. His topic is the John Birch Society.


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: GUEST,James Gilly
Date: 12 Nov 00 - 09:34 AM

Barbara -

Thanks much for the lyrics!!!

James


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: GUEST,James Gilly
Date: 12 Nov 00 - 10:26 AM

Long before I found this site, Joe Offer asked: Didn't one member of the Chad Mitchell Trio become an Episcopalian priest? I looked around and couldn't find anything to verify that. I did find an interesting history of the group at All-Music Guide (click) but didn't find anything about the priest bit.

I was looking at a really nice CMT site a couple weeks ago; just did a search for it, but couldn't find it again. Joe Frazier was the priest, and became one of the heads of one of the world peace movements (World Peace may be the actual name); Mike Kobluk became director (or some such) of the Seattle Opera House, and Chad Mitchell stayed in music.

James


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Barbara
Date: 12 Nov 00 - 01:41 PM

Yr welcome, and I left out a hyphen between 'ti' and 'ni' in the second line of the last part; but there really is one between 'sh' and 'ra' earlier in that word.
blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: GUEST,Walt Bondar
Date: 12 Nov 00 - 09:14 PM

I read that you did away with your CMT vinyl LP's. If you would like to renew your collection, I have a few that are in great shape (I am the original owner) and I am willing to sell. Please let me know.


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Walt B
Date: 12 Nov 00 - 09:38 PM

The first thread concerning my (small) collection of CMT vinyls that I'd like to sell were submitted under my name as a GUEST. I forgot to log in ... so I hope this appendix to my error will be a help in getting to me if you wish. Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: GUEST,James Gilly
Date: 03 Jun 02 - 09:12 PM

Barbara -

If you're still around, could you perhaps send me the words to "The Ides of Texas" from the CMT songbook? (I'm the guy who asked for "Maladyozhenaya" a couple years ago.)

James alasdair.maciain@snet.net


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Barbara
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 01:19 AM

Sure, but tomorrow. It's too late tonight.
Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE IDES OF TEXAS (Chad Mitchell Trio)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 01:50 AM

Mr. Scanner would be glad to oblige.
-Joe Offer-


The Ides of Texas
(words & music by Fred Ebb & Norman Martin)

1. You've heard how us folks down in Texas
Boast of our home in the West.
You've heard us a-sayin' in Texas
That things are the biggest and best.
Well, a few months ago in the papers
A fabulous story came out.
Which proves that us folks down in Texas
Know what we're talkin' about.

Here's to a guy with a big Texas smile
Who knows what it means to have real Texas style.
Here's to a feller who couldn't think small.
Here's to the biggest embezzler of all.

CHORUS:
Billy Sol Estes, we're proud o' ya son,
Hey Billy, Billy, hey Billy, Billy, Billy
You had to be Texan to do what ya done
Hey Billy, Billy, hey Billy, Billy Sol

2. While other kids saved up their nickels and dimes
For jelly beans, lic'rice and fudge
Well Billy saved too and when he had enough
He bought him a federal judge.
While still in his teens he was very perplexed
As to what field his fortune was hid.
His uncle suggested he go into steel,
And that's just what Billy boy did.

Chorus:
Billy Sol Estes, that boy really cooks
Hey Billy, Billy, hey Billy, Billy, Billy
He had one shining purpose and two sets of books
Hey Billy, Billy, hey Billy, Billy Sol

3. There once was a Senator Bill tried to bribe
So Bill had a wonderful notion
He sent him a yacht, but that wasn't enough
So Billy boy threw in an ocean

Chorus:
Billy Sol Estes, we're proud o' ya, mate
Hey Billy, Billy, hey Billy, Billy, Billy
It's hombres like you that make Texas so great
Hey Billy, Billy, hey Billy, Billy Sol

Chorus:
Billy Sol Estes, we're proud o' ya, boy
Hey Billy, Billy, hey Billy, Billy, Billy
Next to you Jimmy Hoffa is Lord Fauntleroy
Hey Billy, Billy, hey Billy, Billy Sol

4. Now they're gonna take Billy away to the clink
And the way things look now it appears
For all of the wheelin' and dealin' he's done
He'll get three thousand four hundred years

And the day they are leadin' old Billy away
Why each Texan will take off his hat
For who but a Texan in all this wide world
Could pull down a sentence like that

Repeat first chorus


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 02:35 AM

Did you e-mail?

~S~


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Subject: ADD: Alma Mater (McWhinney/Powell)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 29 Apr 03 - 01:08 AM


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Subject: Lyr Add: ALMA MATER and BRIGHT COLLEGE YEARS
From: Joe Offer
Date: 29 Apr 03 - 01:57 AM

ALMA MATER
(words by Michael McWhinney, Music by Jerry Powell)

Bright college years, we sing to thee, the golden years that quickly flee
Oh, shining moments of our youth, where we can see God thru/ God's truth (?) seek the truth.
May what we learn midst toil and stride strife direct our footsteps throughout life
No man can ask for more than this, we sing to thee, Ol' Miss

*We bow our heads, we give thee thanks, we'll ne'er forget, alas,
Those teargas raids, the army tanks, those riots after class
The National Guard, the barricades where we shared our first kiss
The senior prom, the hand grenades, we're going to miss Ol' Miss

We'll miss the cafeteria that's crawling in wisteria
We'll miss the classrooms where we learned, and effigies we burned
My girl was only seventeen when she was chosen riot queen
These memories we'll ne'er forget, God bless thee Ross Barnett

We're going to miss Ol' Miss
Glory, glory, what a heck of a time we had
We're going to miss Ol' Miss


*tune: America the Beautiful
the rest of the tune is a variation of "Bright College Years"


from The Mitchell Trio songbook


"Bright College Years"

Words by H. S. Durand, Yale Class of 1881
Music by Carl Wilhelm

Bright college years with pleasure rife
The shortest, gladdest years of life
How swiftly are ye gliding by,
O why does time so quickly fly
The seasons come, the seasons go
The earth is green or white with snow
But time and change shall not avail
To break the friendships formed at Yale

In after years should trouble rise
To cloud the blue of sunny skies
How bright will seem through mem'ry's haze
Those happy golden bygone days
O let us strive that ever we
May let these words our watch cry be
Where e'er upon life's sea we sail:
"For God, for country, and for Yale!"


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: catspaw49
Date: 29 Apr 03 - 02:30 AM

Bless you Joe!...for this aand for "FLNKKK" as well.   Both were favorites that I had forgotten portions of the lyrics to.

Thank you Father Joebro!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Barbara
Date: 29 Apr 03 - 01:29 PM

Joe, are those typos from scanning? Some seem likely, but "I'm going to mill ol' Miss"? Isn't it "miss" every time?
And -- shades of Mondegreen -- I thought it was "God's truth" not " God through" which doesn't make sense to me.
Also, "We sing to thee" not "the".
Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 30 Apr 03 - 01:16 AM

Those, Barbara, are signs of my advancing age. I typed the whole damn thing last night, and then lost it in the posting process. So I typed it again, and wasn't as careful in proofing the second time. So I made the corrections you noted. "We can see God thru" is what's in the book, but your version makes more sense. The book has a number of errors.
-Joe Offer, aging quickly-
(but still behind you...)


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Apr 03 - 05:33 PM

Well, I could give ya the words to every song they ever did, plus either a tape or CD of ever song they ever did plus a few they never recorded but practiced, plus a complete history of the group.

But I ain't gonna do it cuz y'all trashed the worlds greatest singer, John Denver.

So there!!


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 Apr 03 - 06:04 PM

Okay

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: GUEST,hic et ubique
Date: 16 Jul 04 - 09:23 PM

Question has popped up elsewhere. Can anyone provide us with the full lyrics to "It doesn't pay to be too hip"? Thanks in advance.


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Jul 04 - 03:04 AM

Salve, hic et ubique -
You threw me for a minute because your title was a bit off, but I found "The Hip Song (It Does Not Pay To Be Hip)" on the Mitchell Trio Reflecting album. It's actually a Shel Silverstein song, and you can find the lyrics right here in the Digital Tradition Folk song Database - (click).
Shel's lyrics disappeared from the Internet for a while after his death, but I see they're back - click here for lots of them.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: Lyr Add: MALADYOZHENAYA (Chad Mitchell Trio)
From: GUEST,James
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 05:17 PM

An on-line friend turned out to be an associate professor of Russian somewhere in the Midwest, so I asked her about "Maladyozhenaya." She knew the song, which originally came from a 1938 Soviet film (a musical comedy!) called Volga-Volga, and sent me all of the words, complete with translation. So, just in case anyone else cares....


MOLODEZHNAYA

Vyotsia dymka zolotaya pridorozhnaya (Golden smoke weaves through the air)
Oi ty, radost' molodaya, nevozmozhnaya! (Oh, you! Young impossible joy!)
Tochno nebo, vysoka ty (Like the sky, you are tall/high)
Tochno more, shiroka ty (Like the sea, you are wide)
Neobyatnaya doroga molodezhnaya (The immense road of youth/The immense youthful road)

(Chorus)
Ei, gryanem (Hey! Let's get moving!)
Sil'nee! (Stronger!)
Podtyanem (We'll hitch together)
Druzhnee! (Closer/Friendlier!)
Tochno nebo, vysoka ty (Like the sky, you are tall/high)
Tochno more, shiroka ty (Like the sea, you are wide)
Neobyatnaya doroga molodezhnaya (The immense youthful road)

V more chaiku obgonyaem my dalekuiu, (In the sea we'll overtake the faraway seagull)
V nebe tuchu probivaem my vysokuiu (In the sky, we'll break through a high cloud)
Ulybaias' nashei stae (Smiling at our pack)
Vsei zemli odna shestaia (One sixth of the entire earth)
Nashei radost'iu napolnena shirokoiu (Full [the sixth] of our wide happiness)

(Chorus)
Ei, gryanem (Hey! Let's get moving!)
Sil'nee! (Stronger!)
Podtyanem (We'll hitch together)
Druzhnee! (Closer/Friendlier!)
Ulybaias' nashei stae (Smiling at our pack)
Vsei zemli odna shestaia (One sixth of the entire earth)
Nashei radost'iu napolnena shirokoiu (Full [the sixth] of our wide happiness)


Chto mechtalos' I khotelos', to sbyvaetsia (What was dreamed and wished for, will be)
Priamo k solytsy nasha smelost' probivaetsia (Straight to the sun our bravery will reach)
Vsekh razbudim—budim—budim, (We'll wake everyone up—wake up—wake up)
Vse dobudem—budem—budem! (Everyone will get there—we'll be there—we'll be there)
Slovno kolos, nasha radost' nalivaetsia (Like a stalk of wheat, our joy is ripening)

(Chorus)
Ei, gryanem (Hey! Let's get moving!)
Sil'nee! (Stronger!)
Podtyanem (We'll hitch together)
Druzhnee! (Closer/Friendlier!)
Vsekh razbudim—budim—budim, (We'll wake everyone up—wake up—wake up)
Vse dobudem—budem—budem! (Everyone will get there—we'll be there—we'll be there)
Slovno kolos, nasha radost' nalivaetsia (Like grains of wheat, our joy is ripening!)

V pliaske nogi khodiat sami, sami prosiatsia (Our legs will do a dance themselves, will invite themselves)
I nad nami solov'yami pesni nociatsia! (And above us, songs of the nightingales will be carried)
Ei, podruga, vykhodi-ka (Hey! Girlfriend, come on out!)
I na druga pogliadi-ka (And take a look at your guy)
Chtoby shutkoiu veseloi perebrosit'sia! (So we can share a happy joke!)

(Chorus)
Ei, gryanem (Hey! Let's get moving!)
Sil'nee! (Stronger!)
Podtyanem (We'll hitch together)
Druzhnee! (Closer/Friendlier!)

Ei, podruga, vykhodi-ka (Hey! Girlfriend, come on out!)
I na druga pogliadi-ka (And take a look at your guy)
Chtoby shutkoiu veseloi perebrosit'sia! (So we can share a happy joke!)


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 08:33 PM

My (ex-lib) copy of the Song Book is the 1964, hardbound edition. I think I paid USD 0.10 for it....


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Hollowfox
Date: 08 Apr 07 - 05:40 PM

Many thanks, guest,James I'd been wondering about that song for years.


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 09 Apr 07 - 09:38 PM

Joe Offer wrote (many posts back, on 16 March 2000), "but now I've been punished for gloating, by needlessly typing the exact same thing Barbara typed," but in fact there was at least one major difference between what he typed and what she typed, namely, he typed,

An Irish Song

where she typed,

An Irish Song (Rickety Tickety Tin)

Rickety Tickety Tin is what many people call a certain song by Tom Lehrer, a song which, so far as I know, the Trio never recorded. Joe had it right.

But I think there are a couple of mistakes in Alma Mater (Joe, again, 29 April 2003). I always heard the second line as, where we can seek the truth. And in the third line, surely stride is a typo for strife.

(And I'm sure no one will confuse Alma Mater with Alma Mahler, so I won't even mention it. D'oh!)


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Apr 07 - 11:43 AM

Perhaps Alma Mahler WAS alma mater to some of us....


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: GUEST,James
Date: 10 Apr 07 - 07:46 PM

"...where we can seek the truth" is the way I always herad it.


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: GUEST,'Ray Bucknell
Date: 11 Apr 07 - 06:58 PM

I'm surprised I never noticed this thread before, given that the CMT are the reason I became a folkie in the first place.   I bought my first copy of the Mitchell Trio songbook back when I was in sixth or seventh grade, and now have both the read and black soft covers and the red one in cloth-bound, courtesy of Ebay (and I use them; my original copy is now retired because the pages are falling out).   A couple of comments on earlier posts herein: the Chad Mitchell Trio became known as the Mitchell Trio in 1964, ostensibly because Joe and Mike were tired of Chad getting all the attention, but truly because Chad was planning to leave the group for a solo career, which he of couse did in the summer of 1965.   Whoever it was who said Chad was sick when he saw the Trio play the Cellar Door in the summer of 1966 wasn't gonna see Chad in any event; Chad was then touring as a single and John Denver had been in the group for months.   Chad was indeed arrested for possession of "contraband," but not in Chicago; it was a border incident.   And, the words to Alma Mater are definitely "where we can seek the truth."
    Joe is still an Episcopal priest in Torrance, CA; Mike has retired from directing all of the entertainment facilities in the city of Spokane, WA for many years, and Chad was selling real estate in Spokane but I don't think he's doing that any more.   The Trio just did a celebrity cruise this past February which, unfortunately, I wasn't able to attend.   I last saw them in August, 1995 at the Jersey shore with Paxton, Christine Lavin, and Yarrow/Stookey, where I was thrilled to be able to get a picture of my then-12-year-old son with each member of the Trio.   They still sound damn good, even after all these years.

                                     'Ray


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Barbara
Date: 12 Apr 07 - 05:21 PM

So far as I know the song that Tom Lehrer calls "The Irish Song" or "The Irish Ballad" is the song that is popularly known as "Rickety tickety tin" When he introduces it on the tape that I have, he explains that Irish songs all seem to be bloody and have too many verses, so he thought he'd try his hand at one. If we need accuracy, I could go listen to Mr Lehrer on the tape.
I have no idea whether I heard CMT sing this or not.
But what's in the song book is the words for "rickety tickety tin".

Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 12 Apr 07 - 08:46 PM

Barbara, are you saying that the CMT songbook has a song that starts, "About a maid I'll sing a song..."? and not, "As I walked out one May morning, to take a pleasant air..."? I think that would be a serious mistake in the songbook, as the Trio definitely recorded the latter and, to the best of my knowledge, never the former.


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 04:09 AM

Gerry, I am humbled and grateful. I made the corrections you suggested on "Alma Mater." Listening again, I'm sure you're correct.
Thanks.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Songbook?
From: GUEST,Gospodin Dmitri
Date: 04 Aug 08 - 10:40 PM

MOLODEZHNAYA

Vyotsia dymka zolotaya pridorozhnaya (Golden smoke weaves through the air)
Oi ty, radost' molodaya, nevozmozhnaya! (Oh, you young impossible joy!) Tochno nebo, vysoka ty (Like the sky, you are tall/high)
Tochno more, shiroka ty (Like the sea, you are wide)
Neobyatnaya doroga molodezhnaya (The immense road of youth/The immense youthful road)

(Chorus)                              
Ei, gryanem (Hey! Let's get moving!)      
Sil'nee! (Stronger!)                        
Podtyanem (We'll hitch together)            
Druzhnee! (Closer/Friendlier!)
Tochno nebo, vysoka ty (Like the sky, you are tall/high)
Tochno more, shiroka ty (Like the sea, you are wide)            
Neobyatnaya doroga molodezhnaya (The immense youthful road)   

Chto mechtalos' I khotelos', to sbyvaetsia (What was dreamed and wished for, will be)
Priamo k solytsy nasha smelost' probivaetsia (Straight to the sun our bravery will reach)
Vsekh razbudim—budim—budim, (We'll wake everyone up—wake up—wake up)
Vse dobudem—budem—budem! (Everyone will get there—we'll be there—we'll be there)            
Slovno kolos, nasha radost' nalivaetsia (Like a stalk of wheat, our joy is ripening)

(Chorus)
Ei, gryanem (Hey! Let's get moving!)      
Sil'nee! (Stronger!)                        
Podtyanem (We'll hitch together)            
Druzhnee! (Closer/Friendlier!)
Vsekh razbudim—budim—budim, (We'll wake everyone up—wake up—wake up)
Vse dobudem—budem—budem! (Everyone will get there—we'll be there—we'll be there)
Slovno kolos, nasha radost' nalivaetsia (Like grains of wheat, our joy is ripening!)

Note: All transliteration of Cyrillic into Roman characters is defective. This sample of Cyrillic transcription is literal, and does not reflect that -e- is pronounced -ye (as in morye, nalivayetsya) or sometimes as -yo- (in certain stressed syllables, as in Molodyozhnaya). Likewise, -o- in unstressed syllables is pron. -a- so molodyozhnaya is actually pron. like maladyozhnaya. You also will not see the palatalized consonants as in -bud'im -bud'im -bud'im, but you can hear them on the record. Also: this CMT arrangement shows two verses, but there are at least three more! Do svidaniya, lyubimye!


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Songbook?
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 04 Aug 08 - 11:04 PM

Lyrics to many many many (Chad) Mitchell Trio songs at http://lyricwiki.org/Chad_Mitchell_Trio


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Songbook?
From: GUEST,Folk Lives
Date: 03 Nov 08 - 03:35 PM

Sadly, my ear isn't what it once was and I'm having a tough time trying to figure the intro and accompanying chords of "I Feel So Good About It (Sin Bound Train)".

Would those of you who have the Songbook mind looking them up for me?

Thanks So much.


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Songbook?
From: GUEST,Folk Lives
Date: 03 Nov 08 - 03:48 PM

To add to the previous post ... just want to confirm that the opening chords are a simple G - G (with added C) - G(with added D) - G .... I'm pretty sure those are the right notes but the effect isn't the same.

Thanks again.


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Subject: Lyr Add: IT DOES NOT PAY TO BE HIP (S Silverstein)
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 03 Nov 08 - 05:02 PM

Belatedly, here's the Hip song:
(It's by Shel Silverstein)

Oh yeah
Well, for a long time now
I've been aware
That I'm so hip
The rest of the world is square
Now I'll tell all you people
And just take my tip
It doesn't pay to be too hip

Now yesterday I found myself
Sort of in the red
With no immediate way
To meet my overhead
Well I went up to my buddy
And I asked him for some bread
Here's what he said
He said, sure, you want white bread, rye bread, pumpernickel,
whole [?], cracked [?], bagels, [?]
Well, I said later
He said 2.30, 3.30, 4.30, 5.30?
I said, no, like later baby
Oh, you mean next week?
Well, I said, let's forget it

Well I went on uptown to see a man
Heard he had a little stuff on hand
I said tell me baby, can you spare some pot?
He said, you're welcome man to anything that I've got
I've got steel pots, aluminum pots, cast [?], brass, [?]
I said no, no, cool it
You mean put it in the refrigerator?
No, no, I mean like, you know, cool it
You mean turn on the air conditioning?
Well, that wasn't exactly what I had in mind either

Well I was getting real uptight
And sort of brought down
There was nobody hip in your whole damn town
Then I met this chick
And she was long and tall
And I ask her, you know, if she'd care to have a ball
She says [?] ball, or baseball, or volleyball, or handball,
or pinball, or soccer?
I said, you putting me on?
She says train the bus, the plane, the subway?
No, I just wanna make it
Make what?
Well, a scene, I wanna make a scene
Shakespeare, Clifford Odets, Arthur Miller, Pirandello?
Well, what you do but, I said, forget it

And then she said
Well you know what I'd like to do?
No, what?
Well, I'd like to make love to you
Well, go baby, go
And I leaned back and I closed my eyes
And she left


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Songbook?
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 03 Nov 08 - 06:20 PM

Dick, it's already in the DT, under IT DOES NOT PAY TO BE HIP, and Joe Offer linked to it a few posts up. The words in the DT are not exactly the words the trio sang. For example, when they list the kinds of pot, I'm sure they include pewter, which the DT version does not.


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Songbook?
From: Barbara
Date: 04 Nov 08 - 02:59 AM

Would you believe I learned that rap at church camp? Dick, the missing words are verse 2 wheat, wheat, and we said something like "hollyintheolly" for the last one.
Verse 3 iron and pewter
Verse 4 football.
It's amazing what a misspent youth will do for you.
Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Songbook?
From: GUEST,Vicki K.
Date: 04 Nov 08 - 07:30 AM

Not only is Joe Frasier indeed the CMT member who became an Episcopal priest, he's the Mudcatter with the handle "Vicar".
    We had quite a few very interesting conversations with him on the celebrity cruise featuring the CMT and Jack Williams.


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Songbook?
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Nov 08 - 12:52 AM

Folk Lives : The book is deceptively simple - G C G C ...


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Songbook?
From: Folk Lives
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 01:56 AM

Thanks for the feedback regarding "I Feel So Good About It".

I couldn't capture their driving sound in G playing in the first position. But it was easy after setting the capo on the third fret and playing in E. The driving rhythm of the verses comes from playing E - Asus2 - E - Asus2. That Asus2 is an A chord with an open B string.


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Songbook?
From: GUEST,mccr00ner
Date: 18 Jun 09 - 09:13 AM

Hello, I didn't know, or had long ago forgotten, the existence of a CMT song book! I sing with a Men's a capella group at my church, and have become mildly obsessed with introducing them to 'I Feel So Good About It'. (recently had an email conversation with Paul Prestopino about it, but he never mentioned the songbook!) Could I somehow get in touch with one of you who have a copy of the songbook and entice you to send me a photocopy of at least this song?? I wouldn't turn down copies of the whole book.....   OK, let's stay serious. Any reasonable, and likely most unreasonable, offer(s) welcome.   Sorry, I have no firstborn son to offer...


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Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Songbook?
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 23 Oct 10 - 01:51 AM

I've had another look at the DT version of It Does Not Pay To Be Hip, linked by Joe Offer in this thread, 17 July 2004, which is presumably the words the way Shel Silverstein wrote them, and the CMT version of The Hip song, lyrics provided above by dick greenhaus, 3 Nov 2008, with some additions by Barbara the next day. There are plenty of differences, mostly small. What Barbara remembers as "hollyintheolly" is "challah or bialy" in Silverstein. I can hear "bialy" in the Trio recording, but not "challah." Either the boys didn't know what challah is, or they figured their audiences wouldn't (my spelling checker sure doesn't). My preference would be to sing/recite the work with challah in it, just remember it's the ch of the German ich or the Scottish Loch, not the ch of chair. The Trio did include bagels, which don't appear in Silverstein.

The other difference that interests me is that where the Trio has the hipster ask the chick "if she'd care to have a ball," in Silverstein he "asked her would she care to ball." The latter sounds more like what I'd expect a hipster (circa 1965) to say, but maybe it was too crude for the CMT to record.


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