Eliza Carthy

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: GUEST,Peter from Essex
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 03:05 PM

Eliza is very rare in coming over well both live and on record. These are very different skills, which many fine live performers, seduced by the ease of production, fail to realise

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: black walnut
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 12:09 PM

Totally agree with Bassic. Stick to Eliza please.

I think Eliza is very talented, and very knowledgable. I prefer her trad material over her songs with pink wigs, but maybe that's just my age showing.

~b.w.

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: Bassic
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 08:34 AM

As this is an Eliza thread maybe we should stick to Eliza topics. There is an interesting debate about Kate Rusby on this thread.

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 07:18 AM

Bland and over-rated!

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: poetlady
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 07:09 AM

I think folks like Kate Rusby because she's quiet and mellow. Maybe bland is nice, sometimes.

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 07:03 AM

Kate Rusby whilst being a competent and professional live performer undoubtedly comes up with some of the most boring. bland CD's in the entire history of folk music! Unfortunately she is also one of the most hyped folk artistes ever!

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: Trevor
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 09:44 AM

He was great in East Enders.

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: GUEST,Santa
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 05:30 AM

Anglicana is Eliza's latest, working with traditional material. I like it quite a lot, and though I don't think it lives up to the hype, it's well worth buying. I've only seen her live with Waterson Carthy.

But I do find generally that live performances are much more memorable and striking than the same material on CD. This is very true with Kate Rusby, who is absolutely entrancing live, doing almost anything, but I don't enjoy a CD played straight through. Picking out the jewels is another matter.

Nancy Kerr and James Fagan are again quite delightful, performing in the club.

And on good authority, watch out for Rose Kemp.

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: Skipper Jack
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 05:25 AM

Eliza Carthy a very talented lady.
She was nominated for The Mercury Music Awards this year.
I have seen her on several occasions performing with the undermentioned artistes.
The Eliza Carthy CD's that I possess are:
Eliza & Nancy Kerr "Shape of Scrape" 1995
"Heat, Light & Sound" 1996
Eliza & The Kings of Calicutt 1997
"Red" 1998
"Rice" 1998
"Angels & Cigarettes" 2000
I know she's produced one or two albums since then.
Then there's her family albums with Mum & Dad, Norma Waterson and Martin Carthy:
Waterson:Carthy 1994
"Broken Ground" 1999.
Yes, she is famous over here but has she done any live performances in the US? I would be surprised if she hasn't!

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 12:31 AM

hello, i thoink eliza is better then kate rusby, her singinfg angd fiddling is really nice.john
ps, i'm suprised she is not really famus, i tell my frends about her, and lots of them never heard of her,
saying " who id eliza carthy etc, i neber herd of here etc2,
i saying to them= if you like nice music, you should listening to elize carthy, and they got her cd, in hmv, and andiyes records , so buy it.john

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: phil h
Date: 04 Jun 00 - 07:38 AM

I saw Eliza in Stamford a couple of weeks ago, I've seen her live several times now & I think her live work is much improved this year. Martin Green plays on Red Rice, his own band were called 'Whiskey before breakfast' & if you've not seen him recently he's had his dreads cut off! Phil

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Jun 00 - 06:28 PM

See her live at all costs. Music with balls.

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: Garry Gillard
Date: 03 Jun 00 - 03:56 AM

Calicutt is an older name for modern Kozhikode in SW India. I have no idea if this is relevant to the name of The Kings of Calicutt.

Is Saul Rose lurking out there?

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: Peter Kasin
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 11:20 PM

Thank you all for taking the time to offer recommendations. I've got a lot of listening to look forward to.

chanteyranger

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: black walnut
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 10:32 AM

chantey
i'd go for the red rice....it's really really good....

imho

~black walnut

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: GeorgeH
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 10:24 AM

As I recall, the dreaded Martin Green has performed on at least a couple of Eliza's records, and certainly he's recorded with his own band (both of whose names I've forgotten) . . Again as I recall one of the web sites which features Eliza also has a brief bio. of Martin, with recording info.

Sorry that's all so vague, but no-one's offered anything better as yet.

And I still GREATLY prefer Nancy Kerr to Eliza . .

G.

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 31 May 00 - 12:50 PM

OK Aldus give me some details on the albums with Nancy Kerr. I like the Steely Water album with James Fagan and would like to hear more. Having just listened to Red again it strikes me that I have heard Eliza Carthy perform some of the songs better and perhaps the production on this album gets in the way?

Roger

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: GUEST,Aldus
Date: 31 May 00 - 12:34 PM

She has done two albums with Nancy Kerr, both wonderful. She"s done a solo and two with Waterson Carthy. They are all worth buying. It isn't that I dislike the Red Rice album, but I don"t thin that it is a great introduction to Eliza Carthy. Personally, I find her the most interesting young singer I have heard in a long time.. Buy A couple of her cds..you will love them, I'm sure.

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: Peter Kasin
Date: 31 May 00 - 12:36 AM

Aldus - If Red Rice doesn't give you a kick in the pants, what would be your recommendation for an Eliza neophyte. I haven't heard her at all, and reading these comments has me convinced that she's someone I must hear.

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: rusty mahone
Date: 30 May 00 - 09:20 PM

Rana mentioned the Kings of Calicutt cd. Does anyone know if there is a story behind that name. I've got a feeling that it may be some sort of myth?

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: GUEST,Simon on the Isle of Wight
Date: 30 May 00 - 05:09 PM

Thanks for the various links, folks. Good to read others' appreciation too: I heard Eliza just a week or two back in Nettlebed (Oxfordshire), with her trio of Saul Rose (superb melodeon) and the scary Martin Green on accordian. Can anyone tell me whether he appears on any of Eliza's recordings or doing ony solo work?

I heard Martin Carthy here on the Isle of Wight just a couple of days before and the contrast between the two concerts was astonishing. We need to invite Eliza over here now to cheer us all up again!!

Simon

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: Noreen
Date: 29 May 00 - 05:56 PM

click here for Liza's new web page

Regards

Noreen

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 29 May 00 - 11:57 AM

Nigel Morton at  concertclinic.com, I think.

Malcolm

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: Rana who SHOULD be working
Date: 29 May 00 - 11:46 AM

Hi KGH,

In N. America W:C (and hence Eliza maybe) are represented by FolkLore out of California (Mitch Greenhill et al). I can't remember the UK company but presume it is on the W:C webpage.

Rana

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: keltcgrasshoppper
Date: 29 May 00 - 10:41 AM

Does anyone know how to contact Eliza's booking agent?? And if she is still hooked up with Joan?? KGH

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: GUEST,ALDUS
Date: 29 May 00 - 10:36 AM

I saw Liza with the Watersons in Bodmin some time ago... I loved them...just wonderful music. I think that any recording on which she appars is a pure delight. Shape of Scrape with Nancy kerr is wonderful as ar the Waterson Carthy recordings. I too am a fan of Kate Rusby...but I must say I do prefer Liza. I was interested to hear that so many people suggested Red Rice, I have to say that I have not warmed up it to it as much as the others.I shall have to play it a lot more.

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: black walnut
Date: 29 May 00 - 09:01 AM

I never heard of Eliza until hearing her live at the Tranzac in Toronto (thank you Rana and Steve!). She totally blew me away. What a superb musician! (Rusty...I still feel a bit the way you do, and the concert I heard her in - I should note, with the full Waterson:Carthy - was MONTHS ago!)

~black walnut

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: Rana
Date: 29 May 00 - 08:49 AM

Hi,

If you can get it, King's of Calicut is good. It was a group that Eliza and Saul (who also plays in Waterson:Carthy) had a few years ago. I was fortunate to catch them during their brief existence.

Regards Rana

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: Peter Kasin
Date: 29 May 00 - 04:32 AM

Sorry, Roger. Couldn't resist.

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: Peter Kasin
Date: 29 May 00 - 04:32 AM

Thank you Gaz, jayohijo, and Roger, Roger, Roger, Roger for the websites/recommendations. Looks like my next CD purchase will be Red Rice. Thanks again.

chanteyranger

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: GUEST,jayohjo
Date: 28 May 00 - 07:38 PM

liza is fantastic! am currently trying to spread the word among unconvinced 18/19 yr olds, who are slowly being convinced (and thus that folk is not all bad..... hahahaha! i have lured them in!- evil laughter etc) but thats quite enough craziness for now. but liza is indeed top - but then what did we expect with that family?

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 28 May 00 - 04:54 AM

Sorry my connection keeps on going down; didn't realise my computer kept on resending the reply every time I reconnected. Hence three identical Eliza replies

Sorry.......I will get my coat

Damn it gone down again!

RS

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 28 May 00 - 04:45 AM

Kate Rusby and Eliza Carthy Both very good indeed Kate's singing voice and talking voice amazingly different though' took me completely by surprise. I think she is from Barnsley??

Anyway yes Red Rice, a double CD One called Red and one called Rice! If I remember rightly it was a bargain two CD's for the price of one? Thanks for reminding me I will go and give it a play. I like 10,000 Miles.

RS

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 28 May 00 - 04:41 AM

Kate Rusby and Eliza Carthy Both very good indeed Kate's singing voice and talking voice amazingly different though' took me completely by surprise. I think she is from Barnsley??

Anyway yes Red Rice, a double CD One called Red and one called Rice! If I remember rightly it was a bargain two CD's for the price of one? Thanks for reminding me I will go and give it a play. I like 10,000 Miles.

RS

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 28 May 00 - 04:37 AM

Kate Rusby and Eliza Carthy Both very good indeed Kate's singing voice and talking voice amazingly different though' took me completely by surprise. I think she is from Barnsley??

Anyway yes Red Rice, a double CD One called Red and one called Rice! If I remember rightly it was a bargain two CD's for the price of one? Thanks for reminding me I will go and give it a play. I like 10,000 Miles.

RS

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: Garry Gillard
Date: 28 May 00 - 03:13 AM

My Eliza Carthy page, with a complete discography and some lyrics, is

here.

I'd recommend Red Rice.

hth, Garry

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: Peter Kasin
Date: 28 May 00 - 02:57 AM

Can you please recommend a recording of her? I'm a Kate Rusby fan, and was told that I would also like Eliza, but no recording was mentioned and I can't remember who mentioned her. Thanks.

Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy
From: keltcgrasshoppper
Date: 27 May 00 - 11:44 PM

We are BIG Eliza fans... Havent seen her live yet but we are trying to get her to do a concert here in our area.. She was in Northampton, Mass with Joan Baez a few months ago but I can't abide Joan Baez and didn't want to pay $30.00 a ticket to see Eliza play one or two tunes... So how is she live????.......KGH

Subject: Eliza Carthy
From: rusty mahone
Date: 27 May 00 - 10:18 PM

Just caught eliza live in Gainsborough, of all places, never seen her live before, she has totally blown me away. Its been a week now since i saw her, and im still buzzin. i really need to tell someone about it. rusty