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New Eliza Carthy interview.

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GUEST,Ed 01 Nov 02 - 03:03 PM
DMcG 01 Nov 02 - 03:18 PM
Harry Basnett 01 Nov 02 - 03:49 PM
nutty 01 Nov 02 - 04:27 PM
GUEST 01 Nov 02 - 05:30 PM
nutty 01 Nov 02 - 05:57 PM
RolyH 01 Nov 02 - 06:08 PM
Santa 01 Nov 02 - 06:51 PM
GUEST 01 Nov 02 - 07:10 PM
greg stephens 01 Nov 02 - 07:26 PM
Leadfingers 01 Nov 02 - 07:31 PM
greg stephens 01 Nov 02 - 07:37 PM
robinia 01 Nov 02 - 07:38 PM
Willie-O 01 Nov 02 - 08:13 PM
Leadfingers 01 Nov 02 - 08:19 PM
Ralphie 02 Nov 02 - 03:23 AM
Harry Basnett 02 Nov 02 - 06:50 AM
greg stephens 02 Nov 02 - 07:17 AM
Harry Basnett 03 Nov 02 - 06:06 AM
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Subject: New Eliza Carthy interview.
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 03:03 PM

Well it calls it an interview, but it's more of a piece about her.

Anuway, it's quite interesting, and comes from today's Independent newspaper.

Click here to read it.

Ed


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Subject: RE: New Eliza Carthy interview.
From: DMcG
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 03:18 PM

I'm going to the Purcell Room session, South Bank in November. If nothing else, that interview gives me a good idea what to expect (its not always that obvious with EC!)


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Subject: RE: New Eliza Carthy interview.
From: Harry Basnett
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 03:49 PM

Thanks for putting this on, Ed....very interesting article. I was talking to Martin about Eliza and he's obvuously very, very proud of her...and justifiably so in my opinion.

All the best...............Harry Basnett.


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Subject: RE: New Eliza Carthy interview.
From: nutty
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 04:27 PM

It's unfortunate that the article gives the impression that she alone is the saviour of English folk music, giving little credit to the hundreds of "folkies" who keep the tradition alive (every night and weekend) at festivals and clubs up and down the UK.


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Subject: RE: New Eliza Carthy interview.
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 05:30 PM

nutty,

Not sure if you were reading the same article as me.

In what way and where does it give that impression?


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Subject: RE: New Eliza Carthy interview.
From: nutty
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 05:57 PM

Guest .... the tone of the article in general

and this paragraph in particular

If Anglicana represents the music and heritage of ordinary people, rather than the heritage industry of the aristocracy, it continues her crusade to remould a tradition that is still relatively silent beside the craic of thriving Celtic traditions.


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Subject: RE: New Eliza Carthy interview.
From: RolyH
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 06:08 PM

I don't quite understand how English traditional stuff is 'relatively' silent when most of the 'thriving' Celtic stuff is played outside the Celtic homelands.

English music thrives in England.


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Subject: RE: New Eliza Carthy interview.
From: Santa
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 06:51 PM

Without having read the article, I'm not completely sure just what was said, but I don't think that English folk music is thriving. It is not healthy, and not attracting enough younger people. Why this is so is harder to say, but certainly I can go to local clubs and find English singers and musicians doing Irish/Celtic sets, even outside the fake Irish theme pubs. If it doesn't move, paint it green! I strongly suspect the opposite is not true in Ireland.

This may have a lot to do with the (healthy) lack of Nationalism in this country, and a subsequent lack of interest in English traditions. We lack a National dress, and largely a National music, and (as said elsewhere in Mudcat) much of what was/is English has been purloined by others anyway.   How many of the "Celtic" rigs and jeels are based on English tunes? A fair proportion - the music of these islands has moved around and been shared - nowadays it is being claimed, and not by the English.

More power to Eliza's elbow. And Kate, and Katherine, and Tim, Jane and Amanda, and all the young (or not so young) singers and musicians that are around. Fashions do change, or can be changed.


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Subject: RE: New Eliza Carthy interview.
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 07:10 PM

Does it really matter where tunes come from?

I listen to and play tunes that I like.

I don't give a flying fuck where they originate. A good tune is a good tune


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Subject: RE: New Eliza Carthy interview.
From: greg stephens
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 07:26 PM

well like Eliza C, and unlike GUEST above I do give a f*** f****. I've played jazz and cajun and Caribbean and Polynesian and Kurdish and God knows what and it's all totally brilliant. But I specially like playing English tunes and cherishing them and passing them on to youngsters and all that stuff because they are what we have here in England which is where I live(though I'm not very English). And I'm very happy to itch where can scratch. I like beer brewed round the corner, food grown in near fields, and music that grew up round where I am. Not because it's better, it's nether better nor worse. It's just what we've got, and it fits here. Sure I still like blues and everything else, but it's not mine, I just love lots of music. But northwest tunes from England are mine, and I love them to bits.
   And it gives me great pleasure to pass tunes on, to the likes of Eliza and everyone else I can enthuse. And it has given me huge enjoyment to find Eliza Carthy likes them, and records them, because they are English and she likes them too. We've got lovely music in England, just like everywhere else. Cherish it, look after it, add to it, pass it on to the kids. Don't forget it.


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Subject: RE: New Eliza Carthy interview.
From: Leadfingers
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 07:31 PM

I recall a radio interview ayear or so ago when Eliza gave the impression the she and her family were the ONLY people doing anything
to keep English traditional music alive.I like what she does and I like what her family does but there are a Hell of a lot of other people who are doing just as much for the tradition.So I'm with Nutty
on this one.


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Subject: RE: New Eliza Carthy interview.
From: greg stephens
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 07:37 PM

If she's ever given that impression, I wouldn't hold it against her Most nutters about English trad music have ended up feeling they are ploughing a lonely furrow sometimes, and get fed up banging their heads against a brick wall. Don'tblame her if she has occasionally felt she's the only one who cares. Just stick together, like-minded people, and let each other know we're not alone.


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Subject: RE: New Eliza Carthy interview.
From: robinia
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 07:38 PM

I don't care where good tunes and good songs come from either -- but it does kind of irritate me that "Celtic" is used as a buzz word of folk approval. Indeed I seem to recall the Watersons themselves being placed in that category by a local (Seattle) folkshop. Evidently "Celtic" sells.   So three cheers for Eliza!


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Subject: RE: New Eliza Carthy interview.
From: Willie-O
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 08:13 PM

I thought it was really funny in that article that they claim Waterson-Carthy originated at the "Champagne Valley Festival in America".

Reckon it was the Champlain Valley Fest of course, but if there is a Champagne Valley in America, can someone here please give me directions?>

W-O


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Subject: RE: New Eliza Carthy interview.
From: Leadfingers
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 08:19 PM

Is the Independant trying for the Guarniads place in the scheme of things


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Subject: RE: New Eliza Carthy interview.
From: Ralphie
Date: 02 Nov 02 - 03:23 AM

Hear the Lady herself (and Band) on next Fridays Kershaw show (8th Nov 2215 BBC Radio 3...In session, and chatting..
Cheers Ralphie
Memo to all Anglophiles...Our Time is Coming!


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Subject: RE: New Eliza Carthy interview.
From: Harry Basnett
Date: 02 Nov 02 - 06:50 AM

Good on yer, Ralphie...and good for Eliza!! Instead of moaning, groaning, bitching and being more than prepared to knock the girl lets give her our support...if the media want to put her forward as some sort of figurehead for the promotion of English music then I'm bloody glad they've picked one of the best. We know there are tons of people out there keeping English traditional music alive but that's no good unless the media become aware of it also...this is a damned good start!

English traditional music is brilliant....be proud of it!!

All the best.............Harry Basnett.


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Subject: RE: New Eliza Carthy interview.
From: greg stephens
Date: 02 Nov 02 - 07:17 AM

Dead right Harry.Everyone needs PR and figureheads to deal with the media. There's a lot of us Anglotrads about, but if E Carthy gets the publicity fine, it all helps. Just thank the lord she's good at it, sometimes the media pick quite the wrong person!


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Subject: RE: New Eliza Carthy interview.
From: Harry Basnett
Date: 03 Nov 02 - 06:06 AM

*refresh*


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Subject: RE: New Eliza Carthy interview.
From: GUEST,Geordie
Date: 04 Nov 02 - 12:55 PM

Having read the article I did not get the impression that Eliza was touting herself, or her family as saviours of English music. However, where would English music be without them ? More power to them, English music needs saving, it is too beautiful to lose.


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