Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: bob jr Date: 16 Jun 00 - 08:00 PM sean m you folks here do a wonderful job i didnt mean to sound cranky i was trying to be funny but i guess i need to work on it! anyways now i have to take umbridge with people who say that bear aint good cold. if you live somewhere where it aint hot like england then you dont need the cooling effects of a frosty cold one but where i live it gets damn hot and beers got to be cold and plentiful and nobody ever ask to have an egg put in it. i like corona with a lime slice squeezed into it. think i will go get me one right now! cheers |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: rangeroger Date: 16 Jun 00 - 08:04 PM bobjr, to repeat my comment from the "worst car"thread, the reason the British like warm beer is because they have Lucas refrigeration systems. rr |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: rangeroger Date: 16 Jun 00 - 08:07 PM PS I personally prefer a frigid Heinekins.That is,in addition to the vile black stuff. rr |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: GUEST,art Date: 16 Jun 00 - 08:07 PM half pint of bottled abbot+half pint st. edmunds ale i defy anyone to have more than 3 pints known locally as loony brew cheers bil |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: Jon Freeman Date: 16 Jun 00 - 08:18 PM Looney brews - "Blastaway", Diamond White cider and a Castaway is the most potent I can think of. Also, "Snake Bite, any bitter and any cider gets to most people. As for me, I'm coming out of a very alcholic period of my life and while I still enjoy a couple of pints, I am steering clear of that sort of drink and most of the time I just settle for a couple of cans at home - I hope do manage to keep it under control and don't go back to what I had been doing. Jon |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: GUEST,art Date: 16 Jun 00 - 08:25 PM jon know what you mean worst i got was a measure of scotch in a half of cider but not for 30 years good luck to ya cheers bill |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: SeanM Date: 16 Jun 00 - 11:02 PM Thanks, bobjr. Sorry if I came across upset. In the meantime, I'll add another... Snakebites! Half guiness, half really good cider. Sacriledge to the guiness people, sacriledge to the cider people, but heaven if you're up for that kind of thing. M |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: bob jr Date: 16 Jun 00 - 11:12 PM ok i am gonna add another one too ! you folks ever tried red dragon? now that is a cool summertime beer its a bit sweet but it does the job double quick time ! |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: JenEllen Date: 16 Jun 00 - 11:16 PM In addition to the black stuff at the Keg and Cork, I've grown quite fond of this place and their Nut Brown Ale. Explosion story? A few years ago after apple-cider pressing, my friend Nate tried to make some 'atomic cider' in a crock in the pantry.....I really miss him. :) ~Elle |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: Lonesome EJ Date: 17 Jun 00 - 12:06 AM I like lagers and I like them really cold. German beers generally have good snap, and I like a touch of the skunk in them. St Pauli and Beck's lagers are great on a warm day. Carlsberg also is a good crisp lager with a clean finish. Most American Micros are a bit sweet for my taste although two Colorado brews are as good as any: Fat Tire and Breckenridge's Avalanche (though inconsistant batch-to-batch). The best Mexican light lager is Dos Equis light, and I have no clue as to the popularity of Corona- seems wholly dependant on the quality of the lime. Some Mexican amber beers are very good. Both Bohemia and Negro Modelo hold their own with any German dark beers. I think English Bitter Ale is terrific. I enjoy Boddington's, Flower's, Adnam's Broadside, and Newkie Brown. Having said all that, I will confess that the best beer I've had in ages was a frigid Budweiser draw served in a frosted mug in a dusty hot bar in Clayton, New Mexico by a beautiful Spanish girl. |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: Bill D Date: 17 Jun 00 - 12:17 AM wouldn't you know BEER would get 60 messages in one day!...*grin* I live in an area where I can find bottled beer from all over the world, and have 600-700 different emptys to remind me of my sins!...I do love Sam Smiths...and Belgian Ales...and chewy Stouts and Porters...I'd be hard put to choose one favorite. There is, however a brewery in Texas that I'd love to live next door to; and they make this..Celis Grand Cru ......and several others from recipes developed in Belgium...YUM! |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: Sorcha Date: 17 Jun 00 - 12:28 AM Grand Crus BEER? |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: Ron Olesko Date: 17 Jun 00 - 12:32 AM Homebrew for me. I make a mean Honey Wheat Ale. Guinness is the secret of life. It is not overated. My die-in-the-wool New York City father-in-law made a trip to Ireland last month and finally understands what I have been talking about. I can think of nothing more delightful then sitting in a pub with a nice poured pint and a wonderful session. That is where I want to spend my final hours!! |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: Metchosin Date: 17 Jun 00 - 12:32 AM I love Kilkenny. |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: Rollo Date: 17 Jun 00 - 01:20 AM Good Toppick, dizz. Ba - Bear, I meen. Dshust hand me anuffer un, willya? And here's my collection of wisdom: When you're in Hamburg/Germany, don't drink "Holsten", drink "Astra". It's a question of beeing on the right side. You might be seen while drinking your beer. Someone mentioned "Wiesenbier"? Forget it, you'll need liters and liters to filter some taste of that stuff. Guinness? the Danish can do better. There are some really good "Stowt" coming from there. But they also have an excellent Pilsner called "Fuglsang". Never touch that Stuff from Cologne. They say in Cologne drinking some "Koelsch" is like angels urinating on your tongue. I believe it's not so far from the truth. Colognians might have to explain a lot if ever someone finds out what's happening behind their brewery doors. Man should try those strong "Starkbier" (strong beer), because beyound 12 % vol.alc there starts a new beer experience. Have you ever been experienced? But my alltime favorite is a bitter beer from Dortmund called "Hoevels". Dark and tasty.
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Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: Terry K Date: 17 Jun 00 - 01:59 AM I've been blessed with living near St Albans (the home of CAMRA) these past 30 years so have been spoilt for choice in drinking "real" beers. As an ex-Northerner, I can tell you that this "northern beer is best" myth is a lot of bollox (and probably always was). Most places I go in the north these days seem to live on top pressure, hence earlier references to John Smith's Smooth, Ruddles (now brewed by a supermarket conglomerate brewer in Abingdon) and, Lord preserve us, that p**s heavily marketed under the name Boddington's. The best remain; Adnams (every time, but so rare except around Southwold) London Pride (readily available and reliable) CBB (but watch for similarly named top pressure) Youngs (but mainly served in London pubs, most of which don't give a stuff about condition). Guinness or Murphy's is my favourite weekend lunchtime brew - usually apres-golf. There is a disturbing trend towards something which looks similar, called Beamish, which is awful. Many people think because Guinness is black it must be heavy and strong - it is neither, just very smooth, light and refreshing. It is better in Ireland but I believe that is mainly contextual rather than any real difference in taste. All in all, the brewing industry is in really bad shape as more and more of the old brands become tools in the hands of the marketing men and mundane products seem to be the order of the day. And all of the "foreign" lager is now brewed in the UK under licence so it all now tastes the same. Enough. Cheers, Terry. |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: coriander Date: 17 Jun 00 - 03:56 AM This thread made me peer mournfully in the fridge at the solitary bottle of cheap French lager that somehow found its way there! I'd vote for London Pride, Old Speckled Hen, Hogsback TEA, and always look for Robinsons Old Tom when at beer festivals! I am possibly the only beer drinker in Sussex who doesn't particularly rate Harveys..... cori |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: Gervase Date: 17 Jun 00 - 10:57 AM England's better draught beers are indeed grand, but I'm a big fan of mixing bottle and draught, or just plain mixing. Adnams Old and bitter mixed half and half (known locally, naturally, as 'the mother-in-law') is one of winter's joys. On the other hand, years ago, in a chilly wooden-walled club in Lowestoft I used to refuel on a mix of Guinness and barley wine (lethal), or the odd Dog's Nose (a shot of gin in a pint of bitter) Right now it's a bottle of Worthington White Shield (with all the yeast at the bottom) And it's grand - crisp, dry and nutty. But whatever beer you like - and it's as individual as taste in music; after all, some poor benighted heathens choose to drink processed crud as well as listen to it - keep enjoying it and singing its praises! Cheers |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: Mooh Date: 17 Jun 00 - 12:53 PM Questions... Who wrote/performed "I like Beer" (it makes me feel mellow etc)? Why are hangovers much worse with lousy preservative-ridden beer than with homebrew or "pure" beer? I have a tres cool beer mug of hand thrown pottery which I purchased from the Creemore brewery. It holds over two beers for fewer trips to the fridge. What do YOU like to drink from? Still thirsty, Mooh. |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: Mbo Date: 17 Jun 00 - 01:09 PM Mooh, "I Like Beer" is by Tom. T. Hall. I sang it on HearMe on Wednesday night. Good song. You can get the lyrics & chords here. |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: bobby's girl Date: 17 Jun 00 - 02:16 PM I have to agree that Timothy Taylor's Landlord is one of the best, but I'm surprised to see (unless I've missed it) that no-one's mentioned Theakstons Old Peculier - not only is it a great beer, it's got a really good song written about it by Keith Marsden, and sung by Cockersdale! |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: Mooh Date: 17 Jun 00 - 07:45 PM Mbo, thanks. It's been years since I heard it sung. Last time was by a great band called Pigbone (who also had great promo posters), I often wonder what happened to them. Mooh. |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 17 Jun 00 - 08:22 PM Well, there shoud be a few more songs here, I think.The one I'd like tompost is Posions Beer, wich dopesn't seem to be in the DT. Buit all I can remember is part of the chorus: Fancy calling it "Poison", narsty names like "Poison Beer," with that I carn't agree. For I've drunk gallons and gallons and gallons of beer - and it never did poison me
So maybe someone who knows the rest off it can share it with us.
As for beer - I used to think I hated lager, and then I went on a town twinning trip to the Czech Republic, and tried the stuff they make there. I'm surprised noone mentioned Czech beer. Wonderful stuff - lots of varieties, and I'd love to work at finding out which are the best. There's one called Radegast which they make in Moravia, in a if modern pant, but it tastes as good as the older breweries - but you can't seem to get it over here.
And they make the real Budweiser - Budweiser Budvar they ghave to call it, because there's that stuff they make in Amwerica which uses the name as well. But the Budweiser Budvar bears no resemblance to that at all, except in colour. |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: Bugsy Date: 17 Jun 00 - 11:19 PM Morticia, at7.5%alchohol, I'm not surprised Abbott doesn't like you! Still their IPA is pretty good. So is their Mild as I remember. On the whole, looks like us Mudcatters are a load of Pissheads! Cheers Bugsy |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: Susan A-R Date: 18 Jun 00 - 09:34 AM Ah, Vermont now has a host of nifty microbreweries doing good things. Otter Creek, Trout River (a new one we'll have to sample when you get here in September Turtle.) Tunbridge (I think she's still brewing good stuff) Magic Hat (Not my favorite, but if you like sweeter flavors, they do interesting stuff and the labels are amazing). Alas, I have been scrounging through seven/elevens looking for the last remaining six packs of Catamount Porter, but rumor has it they may be bought, and kept pretty much as-is by Harpoon. Let's all hope so. Now, we should start the favorites on the other three food groups don'5 you think? Chocolate favorites, garlic favorites, coffee favorites. Food, drink and music are pretty inseperable in my book. Susan A-R |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: RichM Date: 18 Jun 00 - 10:38 AM My preference tends toward lagers, though I do enjoy a stout occasionally. But I mostly drink bottled beers that are made from what I call unprocessed water: from springs, or made in small cities that have relatively clean water. Most of the bottled beers here in Ottawa are made in Toronto, with city water. I will NOT drink any bottled beer made from city water from Toronto or Montreal. Rich |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: kendall Date: 18 Jun 00 - 11:57 AM Dundee's honey brown lager...ICE COLD |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: death by whisky Date: 18 Jun 00 - 12:00 PM I'd go for a pint of Old Bastard,Brains S.A or Ffelinfoel (hope thats spelt right).Guiness is nice but I'd like a bit of choice |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: kendall Date: 18 Jun 00 - 12:03 PM banjo bonnie, to answer your question, according to Dr. Atkins, beer bellies are caused by too much carbohydrates. He claims it is the carbo's that pack the weight on, not fat in the diet. Beer is loaded with carbohydrates. I tried his diet, and, it works, but, I got tired of bacon and eggs every day. Ken Hicks said he went on a two week diet and lost 14 days. |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: BanjoRay Date: 18 Jun 00 - 08:01 PM Nice to see Felinfoel and Brain's S.A. mentioned. In South Wales the former is usually referred to as Feelin' Foul, while a friend of mine used to have a saying: "Lose a Day with Brain's S.A." Cheers Ray |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 18 Jun 00 - 08:19 PM Nobody's mentioned home brew yet. Rarely good stuff. |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: kendall Date: 18 Jun 00 - 09:19 PM rarely, is right!! |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: Seamus Kennedy Date: 18 Jun 00 - 10:26 PM My favourite is a pint of Drambuie Shandy. Or a nice cheese daiquiri, or if I'm in the mood for something a little more avant-garde, a litre of tuna colada. All the best. Seamus |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: Mooh Date: 18 Jun 00 - 10:31 PM Correction McGrath of Harlow, I mentioned home brew, but I'm also masochistic. Early attempts at home brew were exercises in futility and creative poisoning. These days I brew it, shall I say "off site", but it is no differently brewed than how I'd do it at home. I'm thinking about moving the process home, for the sake of convenience. No luck at all with wheat beers but a sort of Rickard's Red-ish brew is quite tastey, and much better than big factory beers, to my taste. Gee, this is inspiring, think I'll pour a tall one...Mooh. |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: Little Neophyte Date: 18 Jun 00 - 11:00 PM Kendall, I am so happy you answered my questions. For a while there I was worried I had asked something forbidden. So I guess what you are saying is, if a man were to put on weight, he is most likely to gain it in his belly because that is where most of the fat cells are just waiting to inflate. I must say this thread has been very helpful. I did not know much about beers. So after following this thread I went to the liquor store where the manager explained that lagers are less bitter than ales and bock/porters are sweeter and have more alcohol content. I even picked up some NewCastle to see the difference in quality. Haven't tried it yet, but I am looking forward to tasting a beer that is highly recommended. Many thanks Bonnie
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Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: Peter Kasin Date: 19 Jun 00 - 03:49 AM For light beers, try the German brand " Bitburger." For dark, as many have posted, nothing beats Guinness. I'd put Old Peculiar somewhere up there. |
Subject: Lyr Add: BEER, BEER, BEER^^ From: Ringer Date: 19 Jun 00 - 04:59 AM A long time ago, way back in history, When all they had to drink was nothing but cups of tea, Along came a bloke by the name of Charlie Mopps, And he invented a wonderful drink and he made it out of hops (hops hops hops hops, etc). Chorus: Here in Chesterfield [substitute your own locale] we drink beer a lot. Chorus The Admiral, the Connaught, the Hole in the Wall as well; Chorus Music-hall, I presume, though I've only ever heard it from the singing of the late, great Dick Rendall, one time Squire of Manchester Morris Men. And I don't even know it's official title.^^ |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: sian, west wales Date: 19 Jun 00 - 05:38 AM Ah, I'm a committed Felinfoel Mild drinker ... even though they changed the recipe a couple of years ago, and it isn't quite as nice. They serve Brains Dark in the RAFA club ... almost a reason for joining. But the nice tipple(s) locally (Towy Valley) is/are those of the Thomas Watkins micro-brewery, soon to move from Llandeilo to Swansea. Very drinkable. There used to be some lovely stuff up Llanfair's way: Wems SA? I heard that they were bought out some years back and it ain't the same ... I had some decent drinking a few years back in St. Johns, Newfoundland from a micro-brewery just on the edge of the city. Can't remember it's name; the brew was called 18??. Let's hear it for micro breweries... sian |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: Jon Freeman Date: 19 Jun 00 - 06:07 AM I live in Wales but have never got to try Felinfoel or Brains as they are not sold in my area. One of the nicest bitters (IMO) I have ever tasted was Pedwar Bawd (Four Thumbs) from Denbigh. I believe it is still brewed but elesewhere now and presumably must taste different to the drink I liked. Jon |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: Liz the Squeak Date: 19 Jun 00 - 09:53 AM Ah my second favorite subject. Tanglefoot (Hall and Woodhouse, Blandford, Dorset)and Golden Champion (ditto). John Devenish - formerly just Devenish, now sadly molested and bastardised into something that should be spelled XXXX (Devenish Brewery, Weymouth, Dorset - now sadly closed) Royal Oak (Eldridge Pope Brewery, Dorchester, Dorset) Palmers Best (Palmers Brewery, Bridport, Dorset) Oh, and Spitfire (Shepherd Neame, can't remember but not Dorset). And people wonder why I had our wedding reception in the aforemention Eldridge Pope Brewery...... Micca's SO has an excellent recipe for beer muffin (nice work if you can get it) that will be in the Mudcats' Just Desserts, as soon as I get it up and running, hopefully this summer. And of course where would we be without Young's Double Chocolate...... LTS |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: Gervase Date: 19 Jun 00 - 10:02 AM So, Liz, you CAN actually claim to have organised a piss-up in a brewery! |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: GUEST,TomK Date: 19 Jun 00 - 10:57 AM As many beers for as many tastes it seems. Bell's Amber Ale is a fine drink from Kalamazoo, Michigan here in the states. The only brewery I know of in USA that bottle conditions all their products. A noticable difference from pumped in CO2. Plus, you get the added nutrional benefit of the yeast in the bottom. Love those B vitamins! PROST!!! |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: jeffp Date: 19 Jun 00 - 11:16 AM Homebrew CAN be awful or excellent, depending on the amount of care put into the process. It has been my experience (12 5-gallon batches) that kit brews do not measure up at all. I far prefer the recipes that my wife and I have come up with on our own, the best one being a pale ale quite similar to Sierra Nevada. We get micro quality at macro prices. Waiting for it to condition into drinkability is torture, however! jeffp |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: Melani Date: 19 Jun 00 - 08:20 PM The best I ever had in my life is Fraoch Heather Ale. Old Peculiar is great if you like to chew your beer and pour it on pancakes. |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: Mbo Date: 19 Jun 00 - 08:27 PM Ahh, who else has seen the infamous "Beer on Tap" sketch from Mystery Science Theater 3000? Classic! --Mbo |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: death by whisky Date: 20 Jun 00 - 06:59 AM I felt foul in the Butchers Arms,San Cler,Dyfed on a number of occasions.I went straight for the double dragon,while my favourite pint of S.A was consumed on a Sunday lunchtime in the garden of the Royal Oak,Broadway,Cardiff,whilst listening to the Superclarkes. Since we're talking about beer I can't really mention the reddish liquid we concocted from Ribena,drank the night before we went up to the bog to turn turf. Thankfully we saved(NO THATS NOT TRUE WE JUST COULDN'T DRINK ANY MORE)some to take with us.My friend visiting was under the impression we were going to be doing something with those squares of grass that you might see Alan tichmarsh? messing about with in someone elses garden Barley Wine.How can you call it wine ? |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: GUEST,art Date: 20 Jun 00 - 07:44 AM all this talk of micro's has made me curious just how much capital would it take to set one up? |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: PoohBear Date: 21 Jun 00 - 02:14 AM You might like to try the Terminator Stout from McMinimen's in Portland OR, or the Imperial Stout from the High Desert Brew Pub in Las Cruces NM....lovely place to spend time drinking a pint, talking with whoever's around, listening to some local musicians. And, they don't kill the flavor by serving it too cold. damn, now i'm thirsty! PB |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: Petr Date: 21 Jun 00 - 08:32 PM LonesomeEj if you like lagers Id recommend Czeching out Czech beers. Pilsner Urquell one of the worlds oldest (if not the oldest) brews since 1292. Or the real Budweiser brewed in the Czech city Ceske Budejovice (Budweis). Annheuser Busch has been trying to suppress the Czech breweries from marketing the real Budweiser named after the town instead of the pi** brewed in the states. But they are the biggest brewery in the world and have more money for lawyers, although recently they lost in England and the only beer allowed to use the Budweiser name there is the Czech one. |
Subject: RE: BS: Beer From: Terry K Date: 22 Jun 00 - 12:30 AM Interesting to note how many people advocate the extra strong beers that are marketed so well. What I tend to find is that the strong beers are ordered mainly by posers ("look what a great drinker I am") who sip their way through two half pints over a full evening. Give me a good "session beer" anytime so you can drink heavily all night! Cheers, Terry |