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Lyr/Chords Req: True Love Knows No Season (Planxty

GUEST,Minstrel 07 Oct 00 - 09:32 AM
Quincy 09 Oct 00 - 06:07 AM
Stewie 09 Oct 00 - 09:08 AM
Stewie 09 Oct 00 - 09:13 AM
Jim Dixon 14 Sep 11 - 10:13 AM
Bonnie Shaljean 14 Sep 11 - 03:59 PM
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Jim Dixon 19 Sep 11 - 08:52 AM
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Subject: True love knows no season
From: GUEST,Minstrel
Date: 07 Oct 00 - 09:32 AM

Can someone please help with the TAB for this song, preferably the PLANXTY version Cheers


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: True love knows no season
From: Quincy
Date: 09 Oct 00 - 06:07 AM

refresh


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: True love knows no season
From: Stewie
Date: 09 Oct 00 - 09:08 AM

The song's title is 'Billy Gray', by Norman Blake - if that helps you to track down what you want.

--Stewie.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: True love knows no season
From: Stewie
Date: 09 Oct 00 - 09:13 AM

There's a transcription with chords in Cowpie:

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Cheers, Stewie.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: True Love Knows No Season
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 14 Sep 11 - 10:13 AM

Planxty did indeed record a song called TRUE LOVE KNOWS NO SEASON on their album "The Woman I Loved So Well" (1980). It was attributed to Christy Moore.

There is a song by that title in the DT attributed to Norman Blake, but at this point, I don't know whether it's the same song or whether the attribution is correct.


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Subject: Lyr Add: TRUE LOVE KNOWS NO SEASON (from Planxty)
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 14 Sep 11 - 03:59 PM

It is the same song, and I'm pretty sure it's by Norman Blake - I seem to remember hearing that from someone who would know. (Can't remember who, of course.) Great song. It does often just get called Billy Grey, correctly or not - in the shorthand way folks have of just using the first couple of words in the opening line as a stand-in for the title (especially when it's long, as this one is). I see this thread is 11 years old - wonder if Minstrel ever got his/her tabs? Anyway, DT sez:

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recorded by Planxty on "The Woman I Loved So Well" (1980)
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"In December 1979 I met Noel Shine (whistle) in the Phoenix Pub,
Cork, where he sang this song for me. It was written by Norman
Blake and it's special in that it's the first cowboy song I've
heard in a Cork City pub." - Christy Moore


[Bonnie again]: I've underlined a couple of lyrics-corrections to the DT version:


TRUE LOVE KNOWS NO SEASON
(Norman Blake)
As sung by Planxty

Billy Gray rode into Gantry way back in '83.
There he first met with young Sarah MacLane.
The wild rose of morning, the pale flower of dawning
Hurled a Heralded springtime into in Billy's life that day.

Sarah she could not see the daylight of reality.
In her young eyes Billy bore not a flaw,
Knowing not her chosen one, he was a hired gun,
Wanted in Kansas City by the law.

Then one day a tall man came riding from the badlands
That lie to the north of New Mexico.
He was overheard to say he was looking for Billy Gray,
A wanted man and a danger said law dangerous outlaw.

Well, the news it came creeping to Billy fast sleeping
There in the Clarendon Bar and Hotel.
He ran to the old church that lies on the outskirts,
Thinking he'd hide in the old steeple bell.

But a rifle ball came flying. Face down he lay dying
There in the dust of the road where he lay.
Sarah ran to him. She was cursing the lawman.
The poor girl knew no reason, except that he'd been killed.

Sarah still lives in that old white frame house
Where she first met Billy some forty years ago,
But the wild rose of morning has faded with the dawning
Of each day of sorrow the long years have grown.

And written on the stone where the dusty winds have long blown,
Eighteen words to a passing world say:
"True love knows no season, no rhyme or no reason.
Justice is cold as the Granger County clay.

"True love knows no season, no rhyme or no reason.
Justice is cold as the Granger County clay."


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: True Love Knows No Season
From: Midchuck
Date: 14 Sep 11 - 04:09 PM

Way the heck back in the early 90s, Norman and Nancy were at the Champlain festival in Burlington, VT, and did the song, and he muttered something while introducing it about an Irish group recording it and failing to attribute it or pay royalties. I didn't know what it was about until much later.

We recorded it on our second CD, but we paid him.

Peter


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Subject: Lyr Add: BILLY GREY (Norman Blake)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 19 Sep 11 - 08:52 AM

The US Copyright Office lists TRUE LOVE KNOWS NO SEASON with Norman Blake as copyright claimant, and BILLY GRAY (note spelling) as alternative title, 1986.

However, it appears as BILLY GREY (note spelling), with melody line in standard notation and tablature, plus chords, in The Norman Blake Anthology (Mel Bay Publications, 1998), from which I copied this: (Boldface indicates words that are different from Planxty's version.)

BILLY GREY
(Norman Blake)

Billy Grey rode into Gantry back in 'Eighty-Three.
There he did meet with young Sarah MacCray,
The wild rose of morning, the pale flower dawning,
The herald of springtime in his young life that day.

Sarah she could not see the daylight of reality.
In her young eyes Billy bore not a flaw,
Knowing not her chosen one, he was a hired gun,
Wanted back in Kansas City by the law.

Then one day a tall man came riding o'er the badlands
Lying to the north of New Mexico.
He was overheard to say he was looking for a Billy Grey,
A ruthless man and a dangerous outlaw.

And the deadly news came creeping to Billy fast sleeping
There in the Clarendon Bar and Hotel.
He fled toward the old church there on the outskirts,
Thinking that he'd climb up to the old steeple bell.

But a rifle ball came flying; face down he lay dying
There in the dust of the road where he fell.
Sarah she ran to him, cursing the lawman,
Excepting* no reason, knowing that he was killed.

Sarah lives in that old white frame house
Where she first met Billy some forty years ago,
And the wild rose of morning, she's faded with the dawning
Of every day of sorrow that the long years have sown.

And written on a stone where the dusty winds have long blown,
Eighteen words to a passing world say:
"True love knows no season, no rhyme nor no reason.
Justice is cold as the Granger County clay."

Yes, "True love knows no season, no rhyme nor no reason.
Justice is cold as the Granger County clay."

[* Excepting (sic) – should be accepting?]

* *
Allmusic.com says that when Norman & Nancy Blake recorded it on their album "Blind Dog" (1988), they called it BILLY GRAY (note spelling). Several other people recorded it under that title, too: Michael Martin Murphey, Robert Earl Keen, Mike Auldridge, Katy Moffatt, and a few others.

Planxty seems to be the only band or artist that recorded the song under the title TRUE LOVE KNOWS NO SEASON.

The lyrics appear in the DT under the title TRUE LOVE KNOWS NO SEASON, where it is apparently transcribed (with some errors) from the singing of Plaxty. See Bonnie Shaljean's post above for corrections.

They also appear in two other threads in this forum:

The thread Lyr Req: Billy Gray (Norman Blake) has a version transcribed from the singing of Robert Earl Keen, Jr.

The thread Lyr Add: Billy Gray / Billy Grey (Norman Blake) has a version from an unnamed source.

All these versions differ in some ways.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: True Love Knows No Season (Planxty
From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser)
Date: 20 Sep 11 - 07:28 AM

I'm pretty sure Planxty did credit Norman Blake on their album. I understand that when the rights to their albums were bought up by Shanachie, Planxty received no further royalties from them. If Norman Blake wasn't paid, that may be the reason rather than any skullduggery on Planxty's part. I'd be surprised if they went out of their way to not pay Norman Blake his royalties but I wouldn't really know.


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