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Subject: Complete BS From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 12 Nov 01 - 01:33 AM What is the best hot drinking chocolate you have tried? I dont really drink coffee because it gives me a headache, but I like hot drinks in winter.I have been drinking Cadburys Options, but they are expensive (about 50p a sacet), I have just bought a big jar of Asda own label Hot Chocolate, it was cheap but not very good, no matter how much I stir it up there is a lump of sludge at the bottom of the mug.Grasteful for any advice.john |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: CarolC Date: 12 Nov 01 - 01:46 AM From scratch hot chocolate:
2 mugs full of milk
enough powdered cocoa (plain) to make it taste the way you like it
sugar to taste
a tiny pinch of salt
arrowroot or cornstarch (about 1 teaspoonfull)
almond extract to taste (probably about 1/8 to 1/4 teaspoon) Mix dry ingredients together in a saucepan. Mix wet ingredients in a separate container. Gradually add the wet ingredients to the dry, mixing carefully to break up lumps, until all is incorporated. Heat over medium to medium high heat, stirring constantly, until mixture thickens somewhat. Enjoy. |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Liz the Squeak Date: 12 Nov 01 - 01:56 AM Green and Blacks organic cocoa powder, make from scratch. If you like bitter chocolate you'll LOVE Green and Blacks, it's organic and fair trade too! Green and Blacks Maya Gold - chocolate how the Mayans' ate it.... with cinnamon and spices... yum!! It's only the last 300 years that it's been sweet, it was drunk like coffee before then. LTS |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Gervase Date: 12 Nov 01 - 04:55 AM Ah chocolate - the devil's food! Someone slipped me a chunk of something brown and fiery on Saturday and completely altered my appreciation of chocolate. It turned out to be an organic dark chocolate with serious amounts of chilli in it, distributed in the UK by a company called Montezuma's and it was astonishingly good. Chocolate and chilli? Don't argue - they were made for each other (remember Juliette Binoche in Chocolat - as if anyone could forget her!). Seriously good tucker. Now I'm going to try to make some drinking chocolate with a good pinch of chilli... |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: bill\sables Date: 12 Nov 01 - 05:36 AM John, Don't be a whimp. Chocolate is for babies. Get yourself a box of Yorkshire Tea and be a man. Cheers Bill |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: GUEST,small piper at work Date: 12 Nov 01 - 05:41 AM In the Royal Navy they used to drink a thing called Kye. It's like melted Cadbury's milk chocolate and it's to die for! Can't get it in civvy street more's the pity. Just thought I'd tease you with that. |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: MudGuard Date: 12 Nov 01 - 06:21 AM bill, whether it is for babies or not depends on the amount of the most important ingredient in the hot chocolate: Amaretto (Italian almond liqueur). Best way to do hot chocolate: crush one bar of Lindor chocolate (the best Swiss chocolate) into a mug, fill up to about 3 quarters of mug height with milk, heat slowly (best: put mug in pot with water, bring water to boil) while stirring, till chocolate is dissolved, fill mug to top edge with Amaretto |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: MudGuard Date: 12 Nov 01 - 06:22 AM forgot to say it: one bar of Lindor means 100g |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Gervase Date: 12 Nov 01 - 06:53 AM You can get something approaching kye with a kick with a bar of bournville plain, just under a pint of hot milk and a double tot of dark rum (nothing lighter than Cockspur, so you get the lovely molasses taste). |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Noreen Date: 12 Nov 01 - 02:55 PM MudGuard, when did we arrange that I was coming to visit? *grin* |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: wysiwyg Date: 12 Nov 01 - 03:20 PM Does "Complete BS" mean this will be the last and final, all-inclusive installment of BS? *G* Because if so I want to be sure to get my item in before it's too late-- the Subliminal Mind Control Pillow theory. You see our college-age daughter moved out recently while we were asleep, although leaving piles of mess behind, because we are so controlling. Yes, it's true, we gave her free use of a car for daily use at all hours, paid the insurance, gas, so forth... We provided free room and board on short notice, when her announced plan fell through to live elswewhere, self-supporting this semester (her choice, not our expectation either way)... we set no curfew, asked no questions about where she was going, cast no aspersions on her friends... gave her the easy household chores she chose, and then did them for her when her class load was too heavy to leave time to do them... paid the unpaid balance from last year's college costs when she "forgot" that quitting her work-study job on campus last year would leave her $1200 short, after we were already picking up about half the cost of the total bill.... paid her book fees this year and once again underwrote a large portion of the tuition fees.... asked her over and over and over if she had calculated ALL fees, she said she had, we budgeted accordingly, then she was $80 short due to one forgotten fee, and it was ALL OUR FAULT the money was gone. Yes, we bought groceries, I am ashamed to confess! Our crime in Mind Control? We asked two things. When she wanted to change schools (and our payments) we asked her to plan the transition soundly, and twice I asked her-- this was my own crime-- if she knew whether she would be with us for supper, or if we should work around her and do our own thing. Our conclusion was that she must have figure out that the whole time she had been living under our roof, she had been (gasp!) under the influence of the evil Subliminal Mind Control Pillow we had put in her room. Yes, we must have been silently brainwashing her. It is so much the fashion in today's world of abused individuals that in a backlash against the abuse, we think we see control freaks lurking under every sleeping head. As if people can actually be controlled that easily! Yes, this is the popular reaction when one is having trouble thinking for oneself-- someone must be trying to conTROL us! Get YOUR Subliminal Mind Control Pillow today, parents, and use it right away, and you too can be totally responsible for every imagined misery your children wish to blame you for! People who know us and how relaxedly we raised our kids have been laughing their asses off as we talk about that pillow. I think I should make a few to auction off. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: MudGuard Date: 12 Nov 01 - 03:33 PM Noreen, come any time, but give me 1 day advance warning so I can fill up my chocolate and liqueur stores in time. Btw., another Mudcatter (known to you, Noreen) has just visited me yesterday: Susanne (SKW)
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Bat Goddess Date: 12 Nov 01 - 04:05 PM Made from scratch with Bensdorp cocoa. Or Dalloyau Chocolat Chaud a l'Ancienne (little tear-shaped chocolate wafers) that a friend used to bring me from Paris (pre-Sept 11) I'm checking out sources for Mexican spiced chocolate as well. Bat Goddess |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Noreen Date: 12 Nov 01 - 04:11 PM Thanks, Andreas! Will a day's notice be enough for you to make the lovely chocolate cake as well? (Are you a chocolate addict too, Susanne?) I feel a chocolate overdose coming on... and not a chip of it in the house... Susan, I'm sorry to hear of your trouble with your daughter. Would you like a share of the virtual chocolate too? Noreen |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: wysiwyg Date: 12 Nov 01 - 04:17 PM Yes, thanks! Pour it all over me! Oh THAT's what we failed to provide-- all the chocolate she could eat, drink, and bathe in! *G* ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Liz the Squeak Date: 12 Nov 01 - 04:22 PM Noreen, he's staying with ME!!!! (well, hopefully, in preparation for the Stony Stratford gig....) Andreas, did we discuss rent?? (and in the tradition that AlanW seems to have started, but I can't do the italics.... "Oh the chocolate's no for you, my chubby lassie-o...." LTS |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Noreen Date: 12 Nov 01 - 04:31 PM Liz- I wondered how long it would take you to sniff out the chocolate (even virtual chocolate works!) Silly question, I know, but: is there any of the American chocolate left? *sniff* <i> do this to make italics- go on, try it! </i> |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Jeri Date: 12 Nov 01 - 04:34 PM I've got Giardelli's mix here right now, and it's pretty good. (You need real milk for it - none of that powdered stuff included.) I also have a box of Droste cocoa, which makes wonderful hot chocolate. A trick straight off a previous box, purchased in Holland, is to add a little bit of butter on the top. The best stuff I've had was the Mexican hot chocolate. I think I bought that when I was in Indiana. It comes in solid blocks which you heat up slowly in about a quart of milk. I never got the entire chunk to disolve completely, but it was sort of fun to find a lump of concentrated flavor down at the bottom. Amazing taste! (And yes, it included cinnamon and other spices.) |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Bill D Date: 12 Nov 01 - 05:25 PM That Mexican spiced chocolate can also be grated into powder over oatmeal or rice pudding or into coffee, etc...YUM! |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Liz the Squeak Date: 12 Nov 01 - 05:30 PM YES!! LTS (and no it didn't.) |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Noreen Date: 12 Nov 01 - 06:09 PM Yes!! There is some American chocolate left??! |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 12 Nov 01 - 08:16 PM Thanks for all your sugestions everybody.Does any body know about any nice instant chocolate? |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: CarolC Date: 12 Nov 01 - 08:36 PM "Nice instant chocolate" is an oxymoron. |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: wysiwyg Date: 12 Nov 01 - 10:54 PM Amazing taste, how sweet and brown That saved a wretch like meeeeeeeeee...... Go Jeri! ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Peter K (Fionn) Date: 12 Nov 01 - 11:32 PM Noreen, in your line about italics, how did you stop the beginning and end from disappearing, and the rest from going italic? |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: MMario Date: 12 Nov 01 - 11:46 PM what was actually typed was:
ampersand*l*t*semicolon*i*ampersand*g*tsemicolon do this to make italics- go on, try it! ampersand*l*t*semicolon*/i*ampersand*g*t where the actual symbols used for ampersand and semicolon, and the astericks removed. (no spaces) if that makes any sense.
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: MudGuard Date: 13 Nov 01 - 03:27 AM Fionn, to show the <> do it like this: <i>blabla</i> (and to show a & you have to type &) Noreen, to get the chocolate cake as well, 2 days advance warning! To get mousse au chocolot (like Susanne got it on Sunday), another day advance warning. Liz, no, we did not discuss rent. But you can rent me on these days around Stony Stratford - and I promise I won't demand too much rent! |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: MudGuard Date: 13 Nov 01 - 03:29 AM Oh oh, mistyped the > after the first i (I only typed > instead of &gt; - hope I got it right this time) |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Noreen Date: 13 Nov 01 - 06:59 AM OK MudGuard, I'll check my diary! Fionn, if that's as clear as mud/chocolate, I'll go through it again, at a time of your choosing... (I didn't actually do it the way MudGuard and Mario said, I just looked at it a certain way and it did what it was told...) |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Bill D Date: 13 Nov 01 - 08:33 AM to do this <a href=http://mudcat.org</a> the easy way, get this little program Show HTML Code It's a simple copy and re-paste operation,,,the program knows how to write all those ampersands for you...and it will also do colors and font sizes. |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: GUEST,Celtic Soul Date: 13 Nov 01 - 09:01 AM Mmmmmmm! I'm with you! I have an allergy to caffeine which makes coffee *really* bitter tasting to me (not to mention that, if I have too much, I'll wind up in the hospital), so I do the cocoa/tea thing myself. Nothing beats real hot chocolate, but who has the time??? Here are my alternatives! *Any* hot chocolate when accompanied by one of those specialty creamers: Amaretto, Irish Creme, whatever! Even 7-11 cocoa comes out tasting like gourmet. Double up on the amount of powder when using generic cocoa brands, or add some bar chocolate yourself. Spiced Chai! Especially from Starbucks. Personally, I tell them to make it *extra* strong, as (to me), it's too wimpy otherwise. Hot buttered rum! I've seen it all of once in my life here in the states, but it was a nice alternative to the usual "Irish Coffee" (which is the one and only hot alcoholic drink I have otherwise seen). MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM! Gonna have to go to Starbucks now! |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: MudGuard Date: 13 Nov 01 - 05:03 PM BillD, your code for a link is mighty incorrect: The quotes around the URL are missing, the > after the URL is missing, the text to click is missing! Correct code for a link: <a href="http://www.mudcat.org">click me</a> |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: GUEST Date: 13 Nov 01 - 05:42 PM Mudguard, Modern browsers don't need the quotes - indeed the esteemed mudcat faq suggests leaving them out. I still include them myself - but I still browse with lynx ;-) |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Bill D Date: 13 Nov 01 - 06:05 PM *grin*...I don't believe I have EVER included the quotes in a URL...it really does work without them...Joe Offer has done research on this and thinks it 'may' even be a problem at times..(it sure is one more thing to worry over!) and isn't the "click me" or any text optional? Lets see...one with & one without |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Bill D Date: 13 Nov 01 - 06:09 PM hmm..ok, text is needed here. But I have seen chats where the program picked up the HTML and created a default text if you didn't include one..(something like this may be in the plans for the Mudcat upgrade)...gives you a choice. |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: MudGuard Date: 14 Nov 01 - 04:55 AM Guest and BillD, it is not a question of browsers, it is a question of the HTML standard. In HTML 4.01 it says in Chapter 3.2.2: By default, SGML requires that all attribute values be delimited using either double quotation marks (ASCII decimal 34) or single quotation marks (ASCII decimal 39). Single quote marks can be included within the attribute value when the value is delimited by double quote marks, and vice versa. Authors may also use numeric character references to represent double quotes (") and single quotes ('). For double quotes authors can also use the character entity reference ". In certain cases, authors may specify the value of an attribute without any quotation marks. The attribute value may only contain letters (a-z and A-Z), digits (0-9), hyphens (ASCII decimal 45), periods (ASCII decimal 46), underscores (ASCII decimal 95), and colons (ASCII decimal 58). We recommend using quotation marks even when it is possible to eliminate them. Your url contains a slash, a slash is not listed above, therefore, the value of the href attribute has to be quoted. When using the even more modern XHTML, every attribute value has to be quoted (see Chapter 4.4 of XHTML 1.0): All attribute values must be quoted, even those which appear to be numeric And yes, the Mudcat FAQ says the quotes are optionally here in the Mudcat, but this is one piece of the FAQ that I do not agree with - correct HTML should always be used as incorrect HTML can lead to more browser problems than correct HTML. MudGuard |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 14 Nov 01 - 05:03 AM very intresting, but whats all that got to do with drinking chocolate? :-) |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: MudGuard Date: 14 Nov 01 - 06:02 AM What has all that got to do with drinking chocolate? Isn't that obvious? You need to drink lots of chocolate to understand it! Especially the mixtures containing Amaretto, Rum, Brandy or other forms of C2H5OH |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Noreen Date: 14 Nov 01 - 11:46 AM Sorry John! I used to like the instant Horlicks chocolate drink which came in a cuboidal tub (much nicer than any other instant drink I have tried). I don't know if it's still available, but will try and find out. Noreen For a spoonful of chocolate helps the h-tml, go down... |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Bill D Date: 14 Nov 01 - 12:24 PM wowee-zowee, MudGuard (note capital "G") *grin*...they sure do have it spelled out!..never having seen the "official rules" or even had any idea where to go look for them, I was unaware that I had transgressed! Obviously, there are places where leaving out the quotes might be a problem, (in complex web pages, I suppose)...but I'm sure they realize that unless they make it so it doesn't work the other way, amateurs will do it 'wrong'..It's like pennies in the fuse box and driving screws with a hammer--it is a shortcut which works until it **doesn't** work. I guess the 'standards' have been fudged and adulterated until you'll NEVER get compliance. (Look at me, trying to keep 'folk' and 'trad' undefiled..*grin*) well, I will try to do better... <a href="http://www.mudcat.org">click me</a> ...but the road to universal compliance is rocky, indeed! |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Bill D Date: 14 Nov 01 - 12:26 PM (BTW, Noreen...a spoonful of chocolate INSTEAD of H-TML might be better..*smile*) |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Cllr Date: 14 Nov 01 - 12:33 PM I like to add Southern Comfort to Chocolate. But Irish Coffee might be more practical for every day consumption as it contains all four major food groups. (which are of course Fat,Sugar,Alcohol,and Caffine.) Cllr |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: MudGuard Date: 14 Nov 01 - 01:13 PM Depends on how you drink the Irish Coffee. Just a few days ago I heard John Sheahan (The Dubliners) say: we are going now for a cup of coffee (waiting, till the laughter in the audience died down) Irish coffee (again waiting for the laughter to end) without the coffee (he had vanished behind the stage before the laughter had ended) Btw, John, if I do not have the time or ingredients for proper hot chocolate (see above), I sometimes use "Cacao Fantasy" (from a Dutch Company called Douwe Egberts) |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Peter K (Fionn) Date: 15 Nov 01 - 04:49 PM So when did John Sheahan fall off the wagon? John from hull, I'm terribly, desperately sorry about what I did to your thread, with just one simple, innocent question. But the answers have gone beyond my wildest dreams, and I don't really like hot chocolate anyway!
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 15 Nov 01 - 05:06 PM Gervase said: "It turned out to be an organic dark chocolate with serious amounts of chilli in it, distributed in the UK by a company called Montezuma's and it was astonishingly good." But don't the beans give you gas? Dave Oesterreich |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 15 Nov 01 - 05:17 PM Gervase, can you be a little more explicit as to what's added to the cocoa powder? "Chili" (or "chilli") can mean different things. I'm sort of assuming that you don't mean what Americans refer to as "chili powder"; or do you? It's a mix of garlic powder, ground cumin, salt, and other stuff. Did you perchance mean ground hot red pepper, or cayenne? I'd rather like to try it the way you refer to. Dave Oesterreich |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Sorcha Date: 15 Nov 01 - 05:27 PM Dave O--REAL chile doesn't have beans in it. I'll bet Gervase means ground red chile--chile molido. It's hot and sweet, but not the mixed stuff that has other flavors in it. I have seen a recipe for brownies that has chile powder in it. Pretty good brownies, too. Just another note about chile and chocolate--there is a classic Oaxacan (Mexico) Aztec dish called Mole that is red chiles, chocolate, nuts, (pinon, sesame), peanut butter,raisins and stock in it. Served with/over chicken or turkey. Good stuff! |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 16 Nov 01 - 01:16 PM There's a restaurant in Indianapolis, Cafe Santa Fe, which is not really Mexican, but more creative US Southwest. Whenever I eat there, I look appreciatively over the menu, which has a lot of things you don't usually see in a Mexican resturant-----and then I order the chicken mole! Wonderful. Dave Oesterreich |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 04 Dec 01 - 07:04 PM I have found a nice hot chocolatew it is callled Galaxy it is about 2pound but it id really nive.john |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate) From: GUEST,Options Date: 24 Feb 05 - 11:12 AM Options Simply Cinnamon for me! |
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