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Subject: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 01:01 PM

I'm curious about the Jimmie Rodgers who had a number of folk-style hits in the late fifties and early sixties. He had hits with Honeycomb, Kisses Sweeter than Wine, Bimbombey and performed the theme for The Long Hot Summer and other films. He was probably more popular than any folk-style performers of the time, except perhaps the Kingston Trio, then he suddenly dropped out of sight. I remember hearing a story that he had stopped to help a stranded motorist and had been clubbed, a blow that gave him brain damage and ended his career.

I think he had a terrific voice, even though the songs were a bit on the pop side. Does anyone have any info on him?


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: catspaw49
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 01:08 PM

He did have some hits didn't he? Kinda' neat voice.... Here's a few pages:

Click

Claick again

Still at it I guess

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: Sorcha
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 01:09 PM

You mean this guy Leej?


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: Sorcha
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 01:10 PM

Well balderdash!~


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: GUEST,The Burren Ranger
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 01:12 PM

Jimmy is always listed as being county star Hank Snow's son. Can anybody confirm this? I had read that he had suffered brain-injury in a car smash in the 60's ...but not that he had been mugged. Loved his recording of 'Honeycomb'. TBR


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 01:47 PM

Good searchin', Spaw and Sorcha! I couldn't find anything on him...everything seemed to be about the Singing Brakeman. I can't believe he's still performing. This Branson scene has become the Las Vegas for retirees, hasn't it?


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: Steve in Idaho
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 03:21 PM

Here'swhat "Jam" Magazine said in its obituary on Dec. 20, 1999.

By 1950, Ernest Tubb invited him on the Opry, where he wasn't a success until "I'm Movin' On," which became the biggest hit of that year and still holds the record for the longest spell at the top of the charts -- close to a full year.

With the proceeds from "I'm Movin' On," Snow, his wife Min and son Jimmie-Rodgers moved into the Rainbow Ranch outside Nashville, where they would spend the rest of their lives together.

And he does look like the pictures I have of his son in some old songbooks.

Steve


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: GUEST,The Burren Ranger
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 05:43 PM

Steve, Thanks for that link. Hank named his son Jimmy Rogers Snow ..after the 'Singing Brakeman'....but I believe he became a Rock 'n Roll -hating Baptist Preacher. The 'Honeycomb Jimmy Rogers is def. not Hank's son.....or did he lead a double life?...Preacher by day and 'Pop' star by night???? TBR


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 06:23 PM

I saw a wonderful documentary on Hank Snow. Other than music....what a piece of work he was! His son Jimmie Rogers Snow, carries on the tradition of being 'very strange".

The Rock singer Jimmie Rogers (as opposed to the Singin' brakeman...AND Muddy Waters' guitarist) played in open tuning like Ritchie Havens and barred all his chords. Another big hit was "Tukumkerri" (sp)

Rick


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: DougR
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 07:32 PM

Ralph Emory has some wonderful stories about Hank Snow in, I believe, the second book he wrote about Opry stars he knew. Evidently Hank had quite a drinking problem and some of the funniest stories revolved around Hank's affliction.

I hadn't thought about Jimmie Rodgers in a long time. I'm glad you posted this thread, LEJ, it was good to get an update.

DougR


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 09:11 PM

Tucumchari, Mr Fielding. It's a tough one.


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: Big Red
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 09:47 PM

Although my record collecting is primarily aimed at groups, one of the few solo artists I have is a Jimmy Rogers collection of folk songs. A good album.


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: 53
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 09:49 PM

I THINK THAT HE SPELLED HIS NAME, JIMMY ROGERS, NOT RODGERS. bob


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: GUEST, 50's Guy
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 10:00 PM

It's spelled Rodgers on all of his records and the web site linked in Sorcha's post.


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: catspaw49
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 11:04 PM

And in all the sites I linked as well......Makes me wonder why bother sometimes since no one reads the links half the time.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: Steve in Idaho
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 11:21 PM

Geez Spaw - if no one reads them half the time - who reads the other half??

Steve


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: CRANKY YANKEE
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 11:56 PM

Yes, he is Hank Snow's son. When he became a performing artis, he knocked the "Snow" off his name because he didn't want to be compared to his father (and come up short

Hank Snow was from Blue Rocks, Nova Scotia (near Lunenburg and Mahone Bay) The first few years of his adult life e was a commercial fisherman (the most dangerous occupation there is.) and, I've been led to believe that he was a fisherman aboard "Blue Nose". blue nose is the schooner pictured on the "Tails" side of the Canadian Dime. COOL, HUH?
Hank tried to introduce Maritime Folk Music to Country music fans. However, his first (and last)attempt was his recording of "The Squid Jiggin' Ground" which simply didn't appeal to the "Nashville"crowd.

Ever notice how "Married by the Bible"'s melody sounds a lot like, "The Rocks at Baccaleu"?


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: marty D
Date: 10 Jan 02 - 12:44 AM

Crankee yankee says "He is Hank Snow's son"

He most certainly was not! Jimmie R. Snow (as has been pointed out several times in this thread) had NOTHING to do with "Honeycomb" or "Kisses Sweeter than Wine" or any of the other hits.

Catspaw I sympathize with you. Don't people read the previous posts before adding theirs? Usually I just chuckle at stuff like this, but there's a limit!

marty


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Jan 02 - 04:27 PM

I agree with Marty D. Jimmy 'Honeycomb' Rogers is MOST DEF. NOT Jimmy Rogers Snow......Hank's son. There is a terrific late fifties film clip of Jimmy Rogers Snow in his church and in Hell-Fire Preacher mode railing against the dangers of Rock 'n Roll and esp. the dangers of white kids being seduced by "The Beat!! The Beat!! (to quote J.R.S). No, Jimmy 'Honeycomb' Rogers is..thankfully...not Hank's '(as an earlier posting said) 'strange' son. and a PS. His got his 50's pop hit 'Kisses Sweeter Than Wine' , from Pete Seeger who wrote the song as an adaption of an Irish tune ' An Drionaan Donn. The plot thickens. TBR.


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 12:03 PM

Where is Jimmie Rodgers of "Sweeter then Wine fame" now??


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: pdq
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 12:24 PM

Jimmie Rodgers


"Jimmie Rodgers is one of the early rock and roll pioneers. Working with some well known record producers, he put a number of hits on the charts in the late 50's and into the 60's, and he reached the top spot once with his first big hit, Honeycomb.

There have been other artists through the years who have had similar names and they are sometimes confused with this Jimmie Rodgers. One is Jimmie Rodgers (1897-1933), real name James Charles Rodgers, who is regarded as the first important country music star. This Jimmie Rodgers was known as The Singing Brakeman and is identified with yodelling and songs such as Muleskinner Blues, T for Texas, and Blue Yodel No. 9. Another musician, Jimmy Rogers (born in 1924 -- note the spelling) was a blues singer who worked mostly in Chicago. And then there is the Jimmie Rodgers that is the subject of this article, who was born James Frederick Rodgers in Camas, Washington in 1933. Although there is no relationship of any kind between any of the three, it is possible that the younger Jimmie Rodgers was named for the older one as that was a popular name given to baby boys in the early 1930's.

As a child, James Frederick Rodgers was taught music by his mother. He learned to play guitar and piano and while serving in the Air Force, he formed a band. He was a contestant on the Arthur Godfrey Talent Show in the 1950s. He came to the attention of record producers Hugo Peretti and Luigi Creatore who had left RCA to set up their own record label which they called Roulette.

Jimmie Rodgers' first big hit came in the Summer of 1957 when he covered a song that had been done by Bob Merrill in 1954 titled Honeycomb. It was a smash hit, topping the pop chart for four weeks and making Jimmie a bonafide star. In the next year he followed it with several more top ten hits: Kisses Sweeter Than Wine (which had been a 1951 hit for the Weavers), Oh-Oh, I'm Falling In Love Again, Secretly, and Are You Really Mine. Rodgers continued to put hits in the top forty on the Roulette label into 1960. In 1959 he hosted his own network variety show on NBC. From 1962 to 1966 he recorded on Dot and then moved to the A&M label. Rodgers also appeared in some movies, including Back Door To Hell and The Little Shepherd From Kingdom Come.

On December 20, 1967 Rodgers was assaulted on the San Diego Freeway. He was beaten severely and suffered a fractured skull. The exact reasons for this beating remain a mystery, although there has been speculation about the reasons for it. Jimmie took off for a time but returned to performing the following year. The last of his twenty-five top 100 singles was Child Of Clay in late 1967. He put albums such as his Windmills Of Your Mind on the albums chart as late as 1969.

Jimmie Rodgers is a talented performer who reached his peak of popularity in the late 50's. His hits are still played on radio stations and he is perhaps most associated with his snappy number one hit Honeycomb."


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: GUEST,jeff
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 03:46 PM

Jimmie 'HC' Rodgers continues to write, produce, tour, critique songwriters and is held in very high regard as a musical intellect and mentor to those who've the good sense to listen to his suggestions. Had a theater show for a number of years in Branson, MO. He's a great guitar player and plays almost exclusively in open tunings. Has had nodes removed which affected his voice, so there's none of the 'soaring tenor' things he used to do in his shows. All of his children are talented and involved in a variety of endeavors. Some showbiz related, some not, but all are successful. He's in his late 60s and very much a 'hands on' grandfather. There's been talk in Nashville/LA of a 'tribute CD', but nothing's come to fruition as of yet.


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 04:04 AM

I loved his "Secretly", way back when. There is some great footage of him on Youtube. He certainly had a voice!


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: Louie Roy
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 05:05 PM

I have a song book I made several years ago with all of Jimmie Rodgers song in it 109 total. I also have 2 tape with Jimmie doing 60 0f his tunes


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: Gene
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 08:25 PM

The Sad details about the beating of Jimmie Rodgers of Honeycomb fame...by an off-duty Los Angeles Police Officer....

On December 20, 1967, while preparing to do a film for 20th Century Fox, he was assaulted after allegedly being pulled over by an off-duty Los Angeles Police Department officer on the San Diego Freeway in Southern California, receiving a severe beating, leading to a skull fracture. Neither the assailant(s) nor the reason for the assault has ever been established. Not long after the assault, he appeared on a late-night talk show and discussed it, but all he could recall were bright lights, presumably from the car of his attacker(s). Rodgers later claimed that members of the San Diego Police Department had assaulted him [citation needed]. After he sued the Los Angeles Police Department [citation needed], the LAPD settled out of court for $200,000 [citation needed].

Recovery from his injuries caused an approximately year-long period in which he ceased to perform. He eventually returned, though not reaching the top singles chart again. He did, however, make an appearance on the album chart as late as 1969. Also, during the summer of 1969, he made a brief return to network television with a summer variety show on ABC.


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: fumblefingers
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 08:45 PM

"Tucumchari, Mr Fielding. It's a tough one."

Tucumcari (New Mexico), actually.


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 12 Feb 08 - 02:03 AM

Well, I told Rick it was a tough one. That sure proves it, fumble.


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: GUEST,Bonzo3legs
Date: 12 Feb 08 - 09:14 AM

Tucumcari as in:

I've been from Tuscon to Tucumcari
Tehachapi to Tonapah

Always reminds me of my Western hero - Lee van Cleef!


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego
Date: 12 Feb 08 - 01:44 PM

I was a senior in high school when "Honeycomb" came out. I liked it because of the "folk quality" about it, plus Rogers' soaring tenor voice. "Kisses Sweeter Than Wine," I actually preferred. I remember getting into a discussion in our coffee house one evening with one of the resident "folk scholars." She took great pride in pointing out that the song was actually derived from an old Irish air which was, in fact, a lament for a dead cow. I have never independently corroborated that "factoid," nor felt the compulsion to do so. I grew up on a cattle ranch. That was enough.


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: GUEST,Steve
Date: 13 Feb 08 - 05:15 PM

Let's get the facts straight here people! Jimmie Rodgers ... the singing Brakeman ... ( the first singer inducted into the Country Music Hall of Fame), Jimmie Rodgers of "Honeycomb", Jimmy Rogers the blues singer and Jimmy Rogers Snow are 4 different guys!


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: GUEST,Jeff
Date: 13 Feb 08 - 11:20 PM

Um, Guest Steve...if you read the post by pdq and several others you'd see that the imformation you supplied has been covered. Now if you've anything worthwhile to add, beyond your 'stern admonition' for 'Lord knows what', please by all means do so...


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 14 Feb 08 - 03:15 AM

Um, Guest Jeff .. if you read the post by Louie Roy(Feb11th), which was posted after pdq and others postings, you will see that some people are still getting their Jimmy Rodgers/Rogers mixed-up!


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: GUEST,Greycap
Date: 14 Feb 08 - 07:29 PM

I was always a bit confused with all the Jimmy(ie) Ro(d)gers personae - this has cleared it up for me, I guess.
Thanks to all contributers,well done guys,...


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: GUEST,dukeandbanner.com
Date: 11 Jul 12 - 03:30 AM

I was living in Los ANgeles when he was clubbed. And, though it was never proven, LAPD is responsible for his clubbing. Way before Rodney King was photographed, I witnessed others getting beaten by billy clubs, for no reason whatsoever.

In the case of Rodgers, and LAPD officer stopped and claims Rodgers was OK. A CHP officer stopped 15 minutes later and he was near death.

None of the eyewitnesses noted another car. Just LAPD.

Suspicious, to say the least.


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 11 Jul 12 - 02:47 PM

Gosh, just the titles of these songs takes me back to when I was a defenseless girl-child, facing the onslaught of my brothers' passion for Top 40 Radio.

Here's the URL for Jimmie singing "Kisses Sweeter than Wine." Things I noticed:

He's young and cuter than I thought he would be from the radio.

He has the oddest guitar-playing style I've ever seen.

He had a real talent for enunciation. His hits are fast and wordy, and you have to concentrate to sing them clearly.

I also watched "Honeycomb." It's quite enjoyable. Why don't they have stuff like that on TV anymore?
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It's too damn bad about him being beaten, no matter who did it. People look for reasons, but there's never a good reason for something like that.


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Subject: RE: Jimmie Rodgers (Honeycomb)
From: GUEST,crazy little woman
Date: 11 Jul 12 - 03:08 PM

Somebody ought to do something about Spaw. He was complaining that nobody checked his links, but I clicked on one and all it said was:

"De pagina die je hebt opgevraagd kan niet worden gevonden."

I didn't even know Spaw was Dutch.


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