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BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!

Steve Latimer 21 Feb 02 - 10:32 PM
Bill D 21 Feb 02 - 10:37 PM
GUEST,Dave (the ancient mariner) 21 Feb 02 - 11:56 PM
Amergin 22 Feb 02 - 12:04 AM
Art Thieme 22 Feb 02 - 12:35 AM
Barry T 22 Feb 02 - 02:32 AM
Mark Cohen 22 Feb 02 - 03:39 AM
gnu 22 Feb 02 - 07:25 AM
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Wolfgang 22 Feb 02 - 08:06 AM
Steve Latimer 22 Feb 02 - 08:21 AM
MMario 22 Feb 02 - 08:29 AM
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Wolfgang 22 Feb 02 - 11:16 AM
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Subject: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 21 Feb 02 - 10:32 PM

Like many Canadians, I have been a hockey fan as long as I can remember. I know a lot of people in Canada smirk about women playing hockey. My daughter has played for four years now, so I have developed an interest in tghe women's game.

What I saw tonight was one of the grittiest performances by a team that I have ever seen. Going into tonight's game Canada have lost 8 straight games to the U.S.A.

The U.S.A. apparently have been undefeated this season in 35 games.

I played hockey at the Provincial JR. A. level, even tried out in the minor pro leagues. I only say this to back up my next point. Tonight was the most one sided officiating that I have ever seen. Period. The U.S. had 11 Power Plays, a few of them they had a two man advantage. It seemed that every time Canada even looked at a U.S. player they were penalized. At no time did they seem to get flustered or break their focus. They just played as hard as they could for 60 minutes.

I don't think I've ever seen a team earn a victory like the Canadian Women did tonight. Way to go ladies. You should be very, very proud.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Bill D
Date: 21 Feb 02 - 10:37 PM

yes...they played a fine game!...congratulations, Canada! I could see in their faces just how much it meant to them.

But wait till next time! *smile*


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: GUEST,Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 21 Feb 02 - 11:56 PM

Congratulations Canada on winning the gold medal and congratulations on the silver medal team USA..

During the commentary it was mentioned that the US team placed a Canadian flag on the floor of their dressing room. Good sportsmanship demands that the American team appologise for this display of bad taste.

Canadians have died in war wearing that flag, Many are wearing that flag and fighting with US troops today. Such displays of childishness are offensive.

Yours, Aye.Dave (Disgusted with the Olympics, and sport in general)


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Amergin
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 12:04 AM

Hi there, Dave! Haven't seen you around for a while....

Well anyways...you are right that is in extremely bad taste....and you know that if the Canadians had done the same to the US flag the outcry would have been so loud....it would deafen the world....


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Art Thieme
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 12:35 AM

And 20 years down the pike it ought to be the Canadian women lighting the torch like Mike Arruzioni and the guys did this year. Congratulations !

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Barry T
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 02:32 AM

Damn fine sports entertainment! It's an emotional barn burner every time these two teams hit the ice.

2006 might be a slightly emotional rematch, too! Best two out of three, ladies? ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 03:39 AM

Well, I'm seeing it on tape delay, so at 3:20 EST it's only the end of the 2nd period (that's OK, you didn't know you were spoiling it for me!). I would disagree with Steve a bit: I don't think it was one-sided officiating so much as simply bad officiating. I'm a youth soccer referee, so I know a little bit about what it's like to be an official (even though I can't skate a lick!). It looked to me like the referee was trying to control a very physical game by calling every little violation early on (the first two were actually against the US). But this was a lost cause, simply because it was a physical game. I think she just got rattled and started calling penalties with no justification, including a ludicrous double minor when two players got tangled up at center ice.

More important, though, was the incredible job done by the Canadian defense, especially with so many damn minutes playing shorthanded. So far, it's a hell of a game by Canada, and my coconut frond hat is off to them.

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: gnu
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 07:25 AM

A while ago, I wrote to this forum that if a hockey ref did what the French figure skating judge did, there would be bloodshed. Well, it didn't happen last night. I have never seen such guts in sports in my life. Way to go girls, you didn't just win, you did it with ultimate composure and class.

Before anyone gets toooo upset over the "flag on the floor", the US Team has explained that it was there in the middle of the floor of the locker room as a reminder that the Canadians were always "right there, one step behind them". Of course, they were also instructed never to walk on the flag, as a sign of respect. I believe it was placed on the floor because they had no tape in their HOCKEY equipment to place it any higher. Just like I believe that the US referee did not give Canada ANY penalties which were not deserved. And, finally, I also believe that the US referee was assigned to officiate this game because there are only three women refs in the ENTIRE FUCKING WORLD... right ? In summary, Canada won fair and square.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: gnu
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 07:36 AM

Oh, BTW for those who may have missed it, say, perhaps, anyone watching US TV as opposed to Canadian TV, the Canadians, within a few minutes of the final buzzer, offered to sign that flag.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Wolfgang
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 08:06 AM

It is not the first time in icehockey that the referee came from the same country as one of the teams. I never could understand that. In football (European meaning of term), e.g., the referee of a final will not even come from the countries of one of the beaten teams in the quarter and semi-finals nor will the referee of a semi-final come from one of the teams the winner might encounter in a final.

Nobody really seems to care in icehockey. For instance, the quarter final (men) in which the USA played was also refereed by a US referee. And nobody can tell me that there wouldn't have been e.g. a Canadian referee for that match with some spare time. Not that it mattered really in that one-sided game, but there are matches in which it could matter.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 08:21 AM

I found it strange that the Referee was American. I'm not questioning her integrity as I hope that anyone in the stripes would try to do the best fairest that they could, but there is no question that they would have some interest in the outcome of a Gold Medal game that might subconciously sway some of their calls. In fairness to her she should neve have been put in that position.

Hats off to the Canadian coach (I'm sorry, her name escapes me) for keeping her emotions in check. I know that had I been on the bench or on the ice I would have been thrown out of that game as I would not have been able to restrain myself from verbally assaulting the ref.

Once again, great job girls.

Now, go Canadian Men!


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: MMario
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 08:29 AM

I don't follow hockey - but both the commentators last night and my father (who does follow hockey) seemed to think the Canadians were getting called on more penalties then they should have been.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: gnu
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 09:15 AM

It was atrocious. In between Canadian penalties, you could see the ref looking directly at play in which a US player would do the exact same thing yet receive no call. It was only after the US fans began to boo along with the Canucks that she lightened up - a bit.

But, I guess I can also agree with Mark about "bad officiating" because she also called two on the US that I disagreed with. Of course, I disagreed with eight of the Canadian penalties, so it still seemed lop-sided.

Anyway, I'm sure things will change for the better as far as the policy for officiating. And, when the US becomes part of Canada, we will absolutely rule in hockey.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: catspaw49
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 10:30 AM

On the other hand, the judging in the Figure Skating seems to have improved a lot over the the past ten days! Last night, the skater who performed the best got the gold! Additionally, she's such a neat kinda' fresh-faced kid that it was easy to share the excitement.....Congrats to Sarah Hughes!!! She skated the performance of her life and got what she deserved.......as did IMHO the others.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Wolfgang
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 11:16 AM

Well, over here in Europe yesterday's judging is seen about as much of a scandal as last week's. Only difference is that the audience this time was happier. What a funny sport in which the relative placement of two skaters depends upon what an other skater gets. If the Russian skater would have been placed third last night, Kwan would have got gold instead of Hughes. If the Russian would have been placed first, Kwan would have got silver in front of Hughes. The only way Hughes could end in front of Kwan was the Russian winning silver.

I hate figure skating.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 11:21 AM

Wolgang,

I'm with you.

Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: catspaw49
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 11:50 AM

Well Guys, I ain't all choked up over it myself, but to an untrained eye, last night Sarah Hughes skated enthusiastically, very gracefully and athletically, and she didn't fuck up. The same can't be said for the others. Now however it is they figure it...and it's about screwier than hell...it looked to me like the right person got the right medal.

Let's talk Skeleton though......Time on the track...period. That's a sport. One of the best stories to come out of this Olympics is Jim Shea. Great attitude about his sport and the Olympic "Ideal" in general......Third generation Olympian, grandfather says oath for athletes 70 years before he gives the oath for athletes, Granddad wins gold medal, he wins gold medal, Granddad tragically killed a few weeks before the games, Dad was an Olympic competitor and on hand at the games, the two of them are part of the torch passing in the opening ceremonies....and on and on. Now can't you just see the "Wheaties" box........

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 11:55 AM

I don't "hate figure skating"....it is beautiful when you are just watching talented people do amazing things...but the politics and biased judging makes it a travesty. The only blessing yesterday is that there WERE mistakes that clearly made the winners and losers different..........I'd sure hate to have seen the situation where they ALL skated almost perfectly and the judges had to sort it out but their usual whims.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Mrrzy
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 12:00 PM

Wasn't it when some other Olympics were being held on US soil somewhere that when the Canadians won something, we raised their flag UPSIDE DOWN? And who would permit ANYBODY to put someone's flag on the floor?!?? The coach should be fired forthwith if that is actually true, and each player fined severely.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 12:20 PM

Mrrzy,

No it wasn't the Olympics where the upside down flag incident occurred. It was baseball. If memory serves me properly it was in Atlanta when the Blue Jays were playing them in the World Series, but it might have been an All Star game.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Devilmaster
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 12:25 PM

The upside down flag was one of the two World Series wins by the Toronto Blue Jays.... I do believe it was 92 against the Atlanta Braves.

Sorta recall it was a Marine Corps colour guard that accidentally had it upside down.... and then requested to redeem themselves when they returned to Toronto.

Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 12:33 PM

Devilmaster,

You're right about the Marine Corps Colour Guard and their effort to redeem themsleves.

I think that this whole thing about the flag on the floor is being blown out of proportion. It was put there as a reminder of who they were playing to help them focus on their opponent. I think that this showed respect for the Canadian team. Apparently they made sure that they didn't step on it etc. Was it in bad taste to place it on the floor? Yeah. Was it disrespectul? In hindsight yes, I'll be they now wish they hadn't. But we are dealing with athletes here, not diplomats. I've seen far worse than that in Hockey dressing rooms.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From:
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 12:46 PM

As a former Naval Signalman in the Canadian Navy, my job was flags....

I didn't tee off about the flag bit, mostly because I realize that the general public has not been trained about flags like I have. I know flag protocol obsessively, and still get upset when I see a National Flag being flown that has a small rip in it.

So knowing what I know.....
1. No National Flag should ever touch the ground, intentional or accidental. It's disrespectful.

And just as a bit of trivia, on ship, an upside down national flag is a distress call.

Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Devilmaster
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 12:46 PM

It did it again! my cookie is on, but fer some reason it doesn't show my name. Once again, its me, Devilmaster.

Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Metchosin
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 01:03 PM

Steve, the Canadian coach is Daniel Sauvageau, on leave from the RCMP to coach the Team. Her composure is doublely amazing, considering that the team also received some flack for considering something as stupid as a female coach, instead of a male, for as an important event as the Olympics.

It will be interesting to see if the "boys" under the "great" Gretzky can do as well. BG


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Mooh
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 01:15 PM

Steve,

You and my Dad. He could quote chapter and verse from military standards, Boy Scouts, history, you name it, about flag protocol. Drove us nuts, but at least we understand the purposes, and that makes it right. I never knew anyone else's family who knew these things, never mind practiced them.

Anyway...

I figure the flag thing backfired on the US team.

What impressed me the most about the game was the level of sportsmanship on both sides, including the apparent mutual respect. The officiating stunk, but it didn't seem to matter somehow. Unlike the NHL, there doesn't appear to be any prima donna attitudes, thugs, coddling, or ego interference. Pure hockey. I'd love to watch this stuff as regularly as NHL, and so would my kids (both girls).

I was touched by the sight and sounds of the players and crowd singing "Oh Canada" as lustily as they played, with tears of joy and pride. It made a huge impression on my kids.

Thanks for sharing, folks.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: The Walrus at work
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 02:09 PM

I hope this doesn't count as a thread hi-jack, but while congatulating the Canadians, may I ask you to spare the odd cheer for the British Women's Curling Team. The final went down to the last stone of the 10th end, believe me it was a nail biter. As was mentioned on the (British) TV coverage, a recent author made some comment that curling had been included to allow "non-athletes" to contend , Hmmm, strikes me that said author has never tried repetedly sending a 44lb granite block down the ice for three hours at a time.

Walrus


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 02:14 PM

Walrus,

Ah, Eskimo Bowling. Well, If Canada couldn't win I'm glad to see that Great Britain did. I believe that Curling was invented in Scotland wasn't it?


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Mooh
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 04:22 PM

Congrats Walrus! (Do you know the eggman?)I watched curling for the first time this year and found the strategy interesting and I bet there's more finesse than most of us could muster, athletes or not.

Congratulations.

Mooh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: CET
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 10:01 PM

Metchosin:

Actually, Daniele Sauvageau is from the Montreal Urban Community Police (at least according to the TV commentators)

I haven't followed hockey in years. This game reminded me of why I used to like it.

Edmund


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 10:22 PM

My understanding is that all the UK curlers were in fact Scots, so I'm glad they won. Kind of like an all-Native-American lacrosse team would be. (For those who don't know about these things, lacrosse is the only "major" sport played in the US which actually originated there.) And from what I could see, it's not just heaving those rocks back and forth for hours, but heaving each one so it stops just where you want it to, 90 feet away! I found the curling interesting, but I wish they had had better commentators, who could have explained more about tactics and strategy and techniques: why the sweepers sweep, and why sometimes they don't, what the shouted signals mean, etc. The commentators we had on NBC were very good, I'm sure, for those who already understood the game. But even still, I'll watch curling over golf, any day.

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 10:42 PM

Mark,

I'm not sure that Lacrosse is the only major sport played in the U.S. which actually originated there. Basketball, although it was invented by a Canadian, I'm pretty sure he was working at a Northeastern U.S. school at the time.

Golf is one of only three or four sports that I'll watch. Then again, I'm as crazy about playing it as I am about music.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 10:56 PM

Oops! You got me, Steve! I meant to say the only sport that was played by indigenous people. Basketball was of course invented by Ontario native James Naismith in 1891 at the YMCA in Springfield, Massachusetts. I don't know whose idea it was to take the bottoms out of the peach baskets, though!

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 11:01 PM

I think that too was Naismith's idea, but it came later. I heard that at first they would have to climb a ladder to retrieve the ball. Now you don't like golf, I would rather watch ladder climbing ball retrieving than Basketball.

It's funny, I tried to think of a fourth sport that I will watch. I can't. Golf, hockey and Lacrosse are the only ones that I can think of. I used to watch the Blue Jays until the players strike, wouldn't cross the street to watch them play now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: catspaw49
Date: 22 Feb 02 - 11:02 PM

Yo Mark...There is a thread on Curling........I can't believe how much I liked it this time......Am I just getting old or what?

We also invented Drag Racing.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: GUEST,Ard mhacha
Date: 23 Feb 02 - 06:22 AM

Well done Canada and our wee town of Lurgan in County Armagh was proud to have Gealdine Heaney as a member of the winning team, Geraldine was a year old when her parents emigrated. I was talking to her father Mickey when he was here for a visit last Summer and he told me to look out for the Canadian team, Mickey was a good Gaelic footballer so Geraldine would have inherited the competitive edge. And I agree, the US used the games as a propagenda weapon, the flag waving and gung ho sentiments made a lot of us grate. Amazing a US referee, we couldn`t believe it. Again, well done Canada. Ard Mhacha.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: gnu
Date: 23 Feb 02 - 08:21 AM

BTW, LaCrosse is Canada's "national sport".


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 23 Feb 02 - 08:24 AM

Gnu, Actually Lacrosse and Hockey share Canada's official National sport.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: GUEST,Ard Mhacha
Date: 23 Feb 02 - 01:18 PM

What a way to finish, Geraldine Heaney announced her retirement from Womens Ice Hockey after winning Gold on the Canadian Womens Team. She made 125 appearances for Canada. Ard Mhacha.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 23 Feb 02 - 01:56 PM

If you say Hockey this side of the water people would assume it's what I believe you in Norty America call Field Hockey. I was a bit puzzled at first what it was doing in the Winter Olympics, till the penny dropped.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 23 Feb 02 - 01:59 PM

Ard,

I hadn't heard that. What a classy lady. My daughter was in a tournament last year, she was there. Our coach asked her if she would come into the dressing room after a game and say a few words to our 10 and 11 year old players. She must have talked for ten to fifteen minutes about the opportunities available to female hockey players these days, told of her experiences over the years. She then shook every girls hand. A very nice & gracious woman.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: GUEST,Rand McNally
Date: 23 Feb 02 - 02:05 PM

McGrath of Harlow, why do you insist on posting in every thread, even when you have nothing to say?

Are we to assume that you were trying to be clever when you said: "If you say Hockey this side of the water people would assume it's what I believe you in Norty America call Field Hockey. I was a bit puzzled at first what it was doing in the Winter Olympics, till the penny dropped."

Last time I checked my map, such hockey playing countries as Sweden, Russia, Finland and many others were on your side of the water.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 23 Feb 02 - 03:12 PM

I find these linguistic differences interesting enough. Perhaps I should have said in English speaking countries this side of the water, but it would have sounded a bit redundant, since the the remark was about a difference in terminology between English-speaking countries anyway.

I'm not aware of ever having heard people here refer to the ice version as anything but Ice Hockey, or the field version as anything but Hockey. I've always assumed the field version came first, a tamed down version of Hurling, and that people in America shortened "Ice Hockey" to "Hockey" because maybe it's a more common game than the field version. But maybe it's the other way round.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Feb 02 - 03:45 PM

Why does most of this sound like horse hockey to me?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 23 Feb 02 - 04:09 PM

That'd be Polo, spaw. I don't think the ever play that one on ice. (Though there's water-polo and a version played on bicycles. And I read once where they tried playing it on camels - but the camels wouldn't cooperate.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: ard mhacha
Date: 23 Feb 02 - 04:19 PM

Steve, Our town of Lurgan here in Ireland took a big interest in Canada`s fortunes and we were thrilled to see them defeat the US in the final. She has lots of relations here Uncles and Aunts and they were proud and delighted. I was at school with her father Mickey and he was an excellent Gaelic Footballer. Looking forward to seeing him again in the Summer. Ard Mhacha


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: ShankhillPhantom
Date: 24 Feb 02 - 01:48 AM

Hi ARD Mhacha seen your post /re Hockey, who was the family connection with Spadetown ? Proncias


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Hrothgar
Date: 24 Feb 02 - 05:16 AM

This might be might be the last thread on the Winter Olympics, and I can't resist the chance....

Those Canadians spend half their lives up to their oxters in ice, and they won (if my information is sufficiently up-to-date) one more gold medal than Australia, where we have a significant health problem with sun-caused skin cancer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: gnu
Date: 24 Feb 02 - 06:54 AM

Canada 5, 3 and 8. Australia 2, 0 and 0. I couldn't resist either.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Metchosin
Date: 24 Feb 02 - 05:05 PM

Way to go gentlemen!!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: gnu
Date: 24 Feb 02 - 06:55 PM

What a game !!! Don said it best when he posed the question, "Why, if NHL hockey is so poor compared to European hockey, did the gold and silver medals go to Canada and the US ?" Bravo to both teams.

I wouldn't want to be one of those Europeans who were crapping on us when the NHL gets going again. Gonna be a bit of payback coming, I'd say.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: gnu
Date: 24 Feb 02 - 07:10 PM

I'll bet I know why there aren't more posts from the Canuck 'Cats congratulating the men's team... the beer's not finished yet.

Metchosin... did you see the shot of the "celebration" on the street in front of Parliament ? One car full of drunk young guys waving two flags. Twas rather comical.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Hrothgar
Date: 25 Feb 02 - 03:08 AM

Left your run very late, gnu.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: gnu
Date: 25 Feb 02 - 06:31 AM

I guess that footage from in front of Parliament was just the beginning. Some of the later coverage showed quite a jubilant crowd in the streets right across the country.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Wolfgang
Date: 25 Feb 02 - 08:27 AM

For those comparing Australia and Canada: You could put it this way: Australia has doubled their previous number of medals in winter games this time, Canada just has added close to 20% to their cumulative performance in past winter games.

For those interested in Olympic successes running in families (Spaw's post). Even three generations competing successfully are not as rare as you might think: click.

I know that different countries value different sport in a different way: Austria values no sport equal to men's downhill, Norway sees cross country skiing as the prime sport, Canada seems to value ice hockey most. But let's for a moment praise the most sucessful athletes of these games:

for the men: Bjørndalen (Norway) taking four golds
for the women: Kostelic (Croatia) winning three gold and one silver

As for overall career success: Belmondo (Italy) and Lazutina (Russia) have joined those that have won 9 medals altogether during their careers.

As for uninterrupted career success: Hackl (Germany) is the first athlete at all (summer and winter) who has won five successive medals in the same event at five successive olympic games in an individual sport. In team sports this has been done by several others, and several others have won medals at five different games in more than one sport.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 25 Feb 02 - 09:40 AM

Wolfgang,

Sorry, I was being a bit Jingoistic in starting, the hockey threads. Thank you for mentioning these other great accomplishments.

Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Wolfgang
Date: 26 Feb 02 - 04:06 AM

Steve,

no need to be sorry at all. I didn't post that bit here as a reminder of other Olympic sports, I just didn't want to start a new thread on Olympics and choose the thread with the most creep so far for my post.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: GUEST,Ard Mhacha
Date: 26 Feb 02 - 08:01 AM

Steve, I passed on your note to her Uncle Joe, on Geraldine Heaneys visit to your daughter`s School , he sends his good wishes. Ard Mhacha.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Women Hockey, Gold Medal !!!!!
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 26 Feb 02 - 08:08 AM

Ard,

Thank you. I spoke to my father the other night after the men won. He has retired back to Ireland, Killarney to be exact. He has been back about twelve years. He was still trying to calm down after watching the men win Gold. He said he had forgotten how much he loved hockey and that was quite a reminder for him.


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