Folk Legacy Problem - Patons need help!

Subject: Folk Legacy Problem - Patons need help!
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 28 Oct 02 - 04:44 PM

Just got the following message from one of the organizers of the NOMAD festival, which was held this past weekend:

Hello all,

I this afternoon recieved an email from Sandy Paton. When they opened their cash box today they found that all of the checks, credit card reciepts and most of the cash was gone (a few 20's were missed). For Folk Legacy this loss is a disaster. If you know anyone who made a purchase at folk legacy this weekend please contact them so that stop payments can be placed on any checks, credit cards etc, and replacements issued. Sandy and Caroline have supported our passion for a long time, they now need us.

Subject: RE: Folk Legacy Problem - Patons need help!
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 28 Oct 02 - 04:48 PM

And then a minute later came this update:

Hi All,

If you were about to cancel credit card reciepts and/or checks, stop! I just spoke to Sandy, they found the credit slips and checks stuffed into the side of a plastic CD carrier. They are out a considerable amount of cash, but no where near the amount that was taken in as checks or charges.

Subject: RE: Folk Legacy Problem - Patons need help!
From: Peg
Date: 28 Oct 02 - 04:55 PM

Can anyone provide a link where we can mail order from them? Perhaps if those of us who were going to buy CDs for holidays gifts anyway bought from them this would help the loss they have suffered?

Subject: RE: Folk Legacy Problem - Patons need help!
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 28 Oct 02 - 04:58 PM

Here's the Folk Legacy website: http://www.folklegacy.com/

Subject: RE: Folk Legacy Problem - Patons need help!
From: Amos
Date: 28 Oct 02 - 05:11 PM

What the hell happened?

A

Subject: RE: Folk Legacy Problem - Patons need help!
From: katlaughing
Date: 28 Oct 02 - 06:08 PM

Secret Santas, here's your chance to buy the perfect gift AND help out these wonderful pioneers of folk recordings! PLEASE support them as much as you can. They deserve it and more!

Barbara, thanks for letting us know.

kat

Subject: RE: Folk Legacy Problem - Patons need help!
From: kendall
Date: 28 Oct 02 - 06:42 PM

Ok, folks, now is the time to step up to the plate. My order will be in tomorrows mail.

Subject: RE: Folk Legacy Problem - Patons need help!
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 28 Oct 02 - 07:02 PM

Thanks for your concern, dear friends. The recovery of the credit card slips and checks reduces the loss considerably. As Marc Horowitz put it: thank God for considerate thieves. Whoever grabbed the loot out of the cash box, kept the cash (except for the wee bit he/she failed to grasp), but was thoughtful enough to return with the non-negotiable junk anad sneak it into the side of a plastic bin containing such things as masking tape, an extra calculator, my index of songs on Folk-Legacy records (compiled by Mudcatter Karen K) and some other miscellaneous stuff. All we are out is a few hundred dollars in tens and twenties. We can live with that. Karen, who was helping us at the booth, in her wisdom, had carefully slipped a $50 bill and a $100 bill under a calculator in the bottom of the cash box to prevent our accidentally giving them to someone when making change. Those two bills were still there. Good thinking, Karen -- thanks!

Again, thanks to all of you for your concern. 'Tain't nearly as bad as it appeared to be at first. Whew!

Sandy

Subject: RE: Folk Legacy Problem - Patons need help!
From: Deckman
Date: 28 Oct 02 - 07:19 PM

Sandy .... SHEEEUH! (as Walt used to say! Perhaps it will make you feel a little better if you repeat after me: "SANTANAAN PERIKOLOSA"! (My sincere appologies to all Finnish mudcatters). CHEERS, Bob

Subject: RE: Folk Legacy Problem - Patons need help!
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 Oct 02 - 07:26 PM

Sandy and Caroline,
Put it behind you and let's share a lot of wonderful music with our friends and relatives for the holidays.
Be well my friends,
Mary

Subject: RE: Folk Legacy Problem - Patons need help!
From: Nancy King
Date: 28 Oct 02 - 07:26 PM

Well, Jeez, Sandy, if it ain't one thing it's another! So sorry to hear of this nasty incident. Glad it's not as bad as it first appeared, but even so....   Sort of diminishes one's trust in the folk community, doesn't it?

So how are you, other than that? We sure missed you at the Getaway -- do plan to come next year!

Love to you both,
Nancy

Subject: RE: Folk Legacy Problem - Patons need help!
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Oct 02 - 07:31 PM

Speaking of Finnish......

Sandy, you're damn lucky that it was only money as there are some seedy folks out there anymore and Bob's Finnish reference reminds me of Emos Laer Parc, a Scandanavian Violin maker in upstate New York who apprenticed in Germany and had a business in N.Y. building a very high dollar and high quality violin.

Parc was killed by one of his customers about 5 years ago. Actually, it was the father of a young man who was known to be an up and coming violinist. They had sought out Parc and he made them a very custom model which by all reports was exceptional. The boy was quite satisfied I guess but about a year later he failed to take a first place in a junior competition in New York City. Evidently the father couldn't believe this was any fault of the boy and blamed it instead on the violin.

The father and son went to Parc's shop on numerous occasions and although the boy was polite according to others who witnessed these scenes, the father was adamant that Parc's fiddle had been the kid's undoing and that he should have purchased one of the better known European models. Parc offered to make any adjustments the son might want, but refused to refund the money. I guess he had several well known violinists play the instrument and they all confirmed it's quality and sound.

The final meeting came one night when the father showed up unexpectedly and shot Parc with a .357.....in front of witnesses. The trial was pretty quick and the guy got a life sentence for Second Degree Murder as a result of domestic violins.

   
   

   




   
   
   
   
   

   
Sorry.......(Emos Laer Parc = some real crap)

Spaw (I'd send some money but I'm as broke as $10.00 Ford and the only thing I can do is throw in a bit of levity....Glad it wasn't any worse Folk Fogey!!!)

Subject: RE: Folk Legacy Problem - Patons need help!
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 28 Oct 02 - 07:36 PM

Jeez, Spaw, even by your standards, that is simply , well, words fail me .......

Murray

Subject: RE: Folk Legacy Problem - Patons need help!
From: mmb
Date: 28 Oct 02 - 08:04 PM

In my effort to help, I forwarded the first four or five messages of this thread to the CapDist-folknews group, so there may be a flurry of mail orders from the Albany area. I will send your response, as well, Sandy, so they know "the rest of the story." All the best to you and Caroline! M.

Subject: RE: Folk Legacy Problem - Patons need help!
From: Musicman
Date: 28 Oct 02 - 08:36 PM

WHATEVER YOU DO MMB, DO NOT!.. I REPEAT,.. DO NOT FOWARD SPAW'S MESSAGE......

HIS BRAND OF HUMOUR WILL TARNISH THE REST OF OUR GOOD NAMES!!!
(assuming that we have good names of course.... )

i mean.. really spaw...

glad to hear eveything is a bit brighter than first though, sandy/caroline... i know i appreciate your efforts and what you folks do over there.....

musicman

Subject: RE: Folk Legacy Problem - Patons need help!
From: mmb
Date: 28 Oct 02 - 08:46 PM

Rest assured, Musicman, the good name of 'catters has been preserved! I forwarded "only the facts," and then Sandy's response.

I think it's time to "bid you (all) Good Night, Good Night, Good Night" !

Subject: RE: Folk Legacy Problem - Patons need help!
From: Amos
Date: 28 Oct 02 - 09:33 PM

Geez, Pat - that was worthy of ...no...

well, on a par with ... nah.


Well it was as bad as...ummm....



jeeze, Spaw, you hit a new low!! How about that!! :>)

A

Subject: RE: Folk Legacy Problem - Patons need help!
From: Peter T.
Date: 29 Oct 02 - 08:40 AM

That reminds me of a friend of mine who was on an Arctic expedition that went seriously wrong, and from frostbite he lost a couple of toes off his right foot, which, since he was an athlete of sorts, made him very unhappy, hobbling around. He brooded over the whole screwed up expedition for awhile, and started making threatening phone calls to the leader of the expedition, and writing letters to the press, and all sorts of things, and then one day hobbled up onto the doorstep of the leader of the expedition, knocked on the door, and shot him dead. At the trial he was able to get off for medical reasons, as he was "lack toes intolerant".

yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: Folk Legacy Problem - Patons need help!
From: Amos
Date: 29 Oct 02 - 09:23 AM

Peter:

I guess it is a sign of true talent that you can stoop as low as Spaw with none of his excuses!!

A

Subject: RE: Folk Legacy Problem - Patons need help!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 29 Oct 02 - 10:03 AM

Spaw, shame on you-- same story twice in one week? Geeze, where else have you posted it????

For SHAAAAAAAAAME!

~S~

Subject: RE: Folk Legacy Problem - Patons need help!
From: catspaw49
Date: 29 Oct 02 - 10:12 AM

Actually three times, but I resisted a fourth as I am always a beacon of self-restraint and good taste.

Peter, I thought the leader of thoses trips had spare body parts along for just such an emergency that they gave away to frostbitten climbers. I'm sure I've seen bags of Fritos in some of the video footage I've watched.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Folk Legacy Problem - Patons need help!
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 29 Oct 02 - 11:13 AM

Sandy,

I'm sorry to hear about the theft, though glad it wasn't as bad as it could have been. Still, it's disturbing (though not, perhaps, surprising, especially in these tough times) that someone would rob you.

I, for one, will do much Christmas shopping at www.folklegacy.com !

As Len Chandler said, Keep on keepin' on!

Dan

Subject: RE: Folk Legacy Problem - Patons need help!
From: kendall
Date: 29 Oct 02 - 12:25 PM

I don't believe it was a real folkie, and, I would have liked to have caught the bastard.

Subject: RE: Folk Legacy Problem - Patons need help!
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 29 Oct 02 - 04:54 PM

This is upsetting on many levels. Not knowing who did it makes us suspicious of everyone there. The fact that people can and do steal from each other reminds us of the evil of which we are all capable. The fact that it happened to wonderful people like the Patons shows how vulnerable we all are.

Maybe we can turn this into a good thing by making this a Folk Legacy holiday season. (Course I don't usually start my shopping until mid-December. . .)

Subject: RE: Folk Legacy Problem - Patons need help!
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 30 Oct 02 - 02:20 AM

Let me say that I'm sure it wasn't "one of us." And I'm equally sure it wasn't a professional. A "pro" would have sold the credit card numbers and expiration dates to some of the really bad guys out on the street. The fact that they were considerate enough to return what they couldn't easily spend makes me think they were just local kids with enough gall to stick a hand into the cash box when no one was looking. It's easy to be distracted when turned away from the table to chat or exchange big hugs with friends. Again, thanks for your kind concern, good people. We're getting over the initial shock with no trouble, since the loss was really quite minimal, compared to what it might have been.

Keep the faith!

Sandy