Subject: BS: Your Favourite Hymn From: GUEST,Boab_d(as a guest) Date: 05 Mar 03 - 09:33 AM Hello all I'm bored at work and I was thinking about religion and all of that stuff that you normally do when your bored and I was singing a wee song to myself called "Oh Jesus I have promised" and I really like the tune of the song. In fact I'm getting it at my wedding next year though i havent heard it or song it in years. It goes oh Jesus I have promised to serve you till the end thou art for ever near me my master and my friend and jesus I have promised to serve thee till the end oh give me grace to follow my master and my friend Its got a really catchy tune and I love it. what are your favourite hymns Cheers Dylan |
Subject: RE: BS: Your Favourite Hymn From: GUEST Date: 05 Mar 03 - 09:33 AM |
Subject: RE: BS: Your Favourite Hymn From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 05 Mar 03 - 09:57 AM I'd have thought this conted as a music thread, BS or not. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your Favourite Hymn From: Jeanie Date: 05 Mar 03 - 10:13 AM Well, that's a lovely thing to be thinking about while bored at work Boab/Dylan ! Here's my favourite - I love the words and the tune. I find it good to sing whatever circumstances life is bringing. Somehow it seems to put everything into a positive perspective. I have a wonderful memory of singing this with hundreds of people, raising the roof in a packed cathedral at a service for the start of the new Millennium -but I love singing it all on my own at home, too. Great is your faithfulness, O God my Father, You have fulfilled all your promise to me; You never fail and your love is unchanging, All you have been you for ever will be. Great is your faithfulness ! Great is your faithfulness ! Morning by morning new mercies I see; All I have needed your hand has provided - Great is your faithfulness, Father, to me. Summer and winter, and springtime and harvest, Sun, moon and stars in their courses above Join with all nature in eloquent witness To your great faithfulness, mercy and love. Pardon for sin, and a peace everlasting, Your living presence to cheer and to guide; Strength for today and bright hope for tomorrow - These are the blessings your love will provide. Great is your faithfulness ! Great is your faithfulness ! Morning by morning new mercies I see; All I have needed your hand has provided - Great is your faithfulness, Father, to me. (Based on verse from Lamentations 3:22-3) - jeanie |
Subject: RE: BS: Your Favourite Hymn From: Beccy Date: 05 Mar 03 - 10:54 AM Well, my hymn loyalty is equally divided between two favs. The first is "Be Thou My Vision" Be Thou my vision, O Lord of my heart. Naught be all else to me save that Thou art. Thou my best thought by day or by night. Waking of sleeping, Thy presence my light. Riches I heed not, nor vain empty praise. Thou mine inheritance now and always. Thou and Thou only, first in my heart, Great God of Heaven, my treasure Thou art. Be Thou my wisdom, and Thou my true word; I ever with Thee and Thou with me, Lord; Heart of my own heart, whatever befall, Still be my vision, O Ruler of all. High King of Heaven when vict'ry is won. May I reach Heaven's joys, bright Heaven's sun. Heart of my heart, whatever befall, Still be my vision, O Ruler of all. My second favorite is "For the Beauty of the Earth" For the beauty of the earth, For the glory of the skies, For the love which from our birth Over and around us lies; Lord of all, to Thee we raise This our hymn of grateful praise. For the beauty of each hour, of the day and of the night, hill and vale, and tree and flow'r, Sun and moon, and stars of light; Lord of all to Thee we raise, This our hymn of grateful praise. For the joy of ear and eye, for the heart and mind's delight, for the mystic harmony linking sense to sound and sight. Lord of all to Thee we raise This our hymn of grateful praise. For the joy of human love, brother, sister, parent, child. Friends on earth and friends above, for all gentle thoughts and mild; Lord of all to Thee we raise This our hymn of grateful praise. ... And of course there are the good, old, left-hand-pounding-out-the-bass hymns that I love, "Standing on the Promises" "Leaning on the Everlasting Arms", "O, Victory in Jesus", and so on... I'm a big time hymn-lover. I grew up listening to my Mom pound out the bass while my Grandpa was preaching. You'dve thought it was a Southern Baptist church instead of the United Methodist one that it actually was! Beccy |
Subject: RE: BS: Your Favourite Hymn From: TIA Date: 05 Mar 03 - 12:09 PM For tune - Once to Every Man and Nation For lyrics - Hmmm... I'll get back to you.... |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: Padre Date: 05 Mar 03 - 07:49 PM Two come immediately to mind: 1) How firm a foundation, ye saints of the Lord 2) St. Patrick's Breastplate |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: Little Robyn Date: 05 Mar 03 - 08:20 PM "Be thou my vision" is my favourite too - it's "The Banks of the Bann" and it goes well on Northumbrian pipes. And my Mum's favourite was "For the beauty of the earth" and we sang that at her funeral! You have great taste Beccy. Robyn |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: Haruo Date: 05 Mar 03 - 08:45 PM There are so many! Probably the two that I enjoy singing to myself (and God) the most would be His voice, as the sound of the dulcimer sweet and Come away to the skies. The former is apparently a different cento from the same work of Joseph Swain's from which the better-known (but I think less pleasing) O Thou in whose presence my soul takes delight is drawn. Incidentally, although the Cyber Hymnal and every other source I've seen attributes "O Thou..." to Swain's Redemption : A Poem in Five Books, I have seen that poem of Swain's and can attest that it is in blank verse, and has no stanzaic structure that I could ascertain. What gives? I do like all the others suggested, though when singing How firm a foundation I much prefer to sing all seven stanzas; even though I think the Mormons are the only ones who print the whole thing in their hymnal, and me a Baptist. Haruo |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 05 Mar 03 - 08:50 PM Without getting into a Mudcat discussion about what is a hymn, the two that have stayed with me the longest are Softly and Tenderly and Pass Me Not, Oh Gentle Savior.. Jerry |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: mg Date: 05 Mar 03 - 09:23 PM I'm Catholic..so I'd say Holy God we Praise Thy Name.. but I sure do like Diadem as the Welsh sing it. Anyone in Canada watch Hymn Sing? Is it still on? Boy, they were good. mg |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: Neighmond Date: 05 Mar 03 - 09:24 PM "The evergreen Mountains of life"- the words are as pretty as they come. "Simple Gifts" is good too Chaz |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: Haruo Date: 05 Mar 03 - 10:20 PM Neighmond, do you have "The evergreen Mountains of life"? If so, could you post them? If not, could you suggest a book in which they might be found (and the tune?)? I've never heard that one, but I'm intrigued. Google has barely heard of it (a couple of passing mentions, but no text or info). Haruo |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: sharyn Date: 05 Mar 03 - 11:38 PM And from the Anglican or Episcopal hymnal, 1940, I vote for "I Heard the Voice of Jesus Say": I heard the voice of Jesus say, "Come unto me and rest." "Lay down, thou weary one, lay down, thy head upon my breast." I came to Jesus as I was: weary and worn and sad. I found in Him a resting place and He has made me glad. I heard the voice of Jesus say, "Behold I freely give The living water, thirsty one: Stoop down and drink and live." I came to Jesus and I drank from that life-giving stream. My thirst was quenched, my soul survived and now I live in Him. I heard the voice of Jesus say, "I am this dark world's light. "Look unto me, thy morn shall rise and all thy day be bright." I came to Jesus and I found in Him my star, my sun, And in that light of life I'll walk 'til travelling days are done. I'm also partial to "Ah, Holy Jesus," "Remember, O Thou Man" and "I Know a Rose-Tree Springing." |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: Haruo Date: 06 Mar 03 - 12:27 AM At least as important as the text is the tune; I'm guessing (correct me if I'm wrong) that sharyn sings I heard the voice of Jesus say to Vox Dilecti, and that TIA has Ton-y-Botel (aka Ebenezer) in mind as the tune of Once to every man and nation. Haruo |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: Neighmond Date: 06 Mar 03 - 03:05 AM Haruo, It is a poem My grandmothher used to recite from time to time...who knows where she heard it...I set the music to it in High school for lack of something to do one day in study Hall. It is very loosely based on "Darling Nely Gray" If you have a way of getting it I'll gladly put an .mp3 for You. Chaz |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: Neighmond Date: 06 Mar 03 - 03:08 AM I ought to add that The Words are what I like about the Evergreen Mountains of Life-the tune is lackluster for such a pretty verse. Chaz |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: Menolly Date: 06 Mar 03 - 03:28 AM I have never sung it in church but I love "Lift up your hearts, Emmanual's friends And taste the pleasure Jesus sends." If I never hear "Away in a Manger" again, it will be too soon! |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: the lemonade lady Date: 06 Mar 03 - 05:14 AM Menolly: Good choice, I like that one too and I love singing the alto part. For me?... I like 'Immortal, Invisible...and again the alto part. Sal 0#>8-D |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: Ringer Date: 06 Mar 03 - 05:38 AM I think that hymns are all that keep me going to church these days (though my wife hates them: she thinks that all hymn-tunes are banal and most -words ditto). I hate the modern drivel that's usually known as "choruses", though. And I'm not keen on so-called "Iona" hymns which are often set to corrupted folk tunes: the setters seem to have been unable to resist the temptation to change the rhythm to dotted-crotchet, which has trivialised them. RVW, editor of The English Hymnal, could have taught them a thing or two! I heard the voice of Jesus, as above, is loveliest (IMHO) when sung to Vaughan Williams' Thomas Tallis theme (though I don't think that tune was included in The English Hymnal). My wife, frequently insomniac, often turns the radio on in the middle of the night and I, deep in the mists of sleep, am sometimes aware of hearing things she has been listening to. Several years ago, there used to be broadcast on BBC-R4 very early on Sunday mornings a programme of hymns (my wife must have been asleep by then: she wouldn't have listened to a hymn-programme by choice). The presenter of that programme must have really liked Maddy Prior singing As pants the hart, for he played it several times over a period of perhaps a year. It's from a CD of MP (and a band whose name escapes me - not Steeleye Span though) singing Charles Wesley hymns (and other hymns from that era). The whole CD is well worth a listen to; APTH is particularly fine. Isn't that tune a folk melody? A few more of my favourites are |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: greg stephens Date: 06 Mar 03 - 05:58 AM Ringer: I'm a bit confused by your posting re "I heard the voice of Jesus say". Vaughan Williams himself set thee words, but he used an old version of Dives and Lazarus/Star of thre County Down, and called his arrangement Kingsfold after the village the tune was collected in.This is definitely in the English Hymnal. What is this other tune you refer to, and is it by Vaughan Williams or Thomas Tallis? And to answer the question in the thread, my favourite hymn is "Dear lord and father of mankind", to the tune Repton by Hubert Parry. Mind you, if you asked me tomorrow I might say "Jesu lover of my soul", to the tune Aberystwyth, by Joseph Parry. Interesting that having the name Parry enables you to write brilliant hymn tunes. |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: Ringer Date: 06 Mar 03 - 06:31 AM Sorry, greg: back in [whenever] Thomas Tallis wrote lots of Chusrch Music which has that austere beauty characteristic of the time (it was roughly QE-1/Bloody Mary time - not too sure of dates). Last century Vaughan Williams took one of Tallis' themes and used it as the basis of a 20-minute orchestral piece which he called "Fantasia on a theme of Thomas Tallis". So it's that theme I'm talking about, and it's more RVW's version than Tallis' (I think) to whichI have sung "I heard the voice of Jesus". |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: Ringer Date: 06 Mar 03 - 06:38 AM I don't know what I'm thinking of: I know quite well that RVW did include the tume in The English Hymnal. It is that set to a hymn whose 1st line is something like "When rising from this bed of death" (that's from memory - why did this memory not fire when I wrote my missive earlier this morning? Dunno.) |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: Nigel Parsons Date: 06 Mar 03 - 06:49 AM Greg: discussion of Kingsfold The tune for "I heard the voice of Jesus say" is Vox dilecti as listed at This page Kingsfold is given as an alternative Nigel |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: greg stephens Date: 06 Mar 03 - 07:39 AM You're right, Ringer, that Tallis tune is indeed in the English Hymnal, I've just had a look: under the strange title of "Third Mode Melody".(Presumably because it's in the mode commonly known as Phrygian,E to E on the white notes). Your memory is also quite right, "When rising from the bed of death" is the first line. I've never heard "I heard the voice of Jesus say" sung to this. beautiful tune, lovely harmonies. |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: sharyn Date: 06 Mar 03 - 12:36 PM Sorry, Haruo, etc. I no longer have a 1940 hymnal (I lost it) so I can't cite the tune's composer. It is a minor tune, or maybe a modal one, with lots of repeated notes, sounds almost like a chant for the first three lines, and then uses descending scales in the fourth line. Cab any of you tell which one I'm talking about? It has a range of an octave and one I think. |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: Haruo Date: 06 Mar 03 - 12:57 PM sharyn, I've got a 1940 at home, I'll go look it up tonight. Neighmond, could you maybe just post the words to the poem, if you think the tune you use isn't worthy of it, and maybe someone here can suggest a better? Haruo |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: AllisonA(Animaterra) Date: 06 Mar 03 - 01:38 PM What a good thread! I have always loved hymn singing. I grew up on the 1940 Hymnal but can't seem to find my copy. Favorites: Alleluia, Sing to Jesus to the tune Hyfrydol Be thou my vision The King of love my shepherd is to the tune St Columba Blessed quietness (although I've never heard it sung at church!) Amazing grace The list goes on, but these are the top 5 for me. |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: GUEST,Mimsey Date: 06 Mar 03 - 02:50 PM Ah, I think my favorite would have to be All Beautiful the March of Days, as well as some of the others that have already been mentioned. Great thread! Especially thanks to Haruo for links to the Cyberhymnal site! Mimsey |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: Night Owl Date: 06 Mar 03 - 06:35 PM in random order..... Bright Morning Stars Farther Along Softly and Tenderly Sweet Hour of Prayer |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: Richie Date: 06 Mar 03 - 11:17 PM One of my favorites is "When I Survey the Wondrous Cross." Richie |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: Kim C Date: 07 Mar 03 - 10:34 AM How Firm a Foundation |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: KateG Date: 07 Mar 03 - 10:47 AM The Mariners' Hymn: Eternal Father strong to save... |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: Joe_F Date: 07 Mar 03 - 11:10 AM I suspect I would put "Abide with Me" at the top. My "Magical" list includes also (confining myself to hymns in the strictest sense, excluding Christmas carols, gospel songs, spirituals, etc.): "A Mighty Fortress Is Our God", "The Battle Hymn of the Republic", the "Captain Kidd" hymn, "Cwm Rhondda", "Eternal Father, Strong to Save", "How Can I Keep from Singing", "Jerusalem", "O Come, O Come, Emanuel", Old Hundred, "Onward, Christian Soldiers", "Simple Gifts", "Turn Back, O Man". I should stipulate that I am bigoted atheist of the 19th-century (Robert Ingersoll, Bertrand Russell) type. |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: Mrs.Duck Date: 07 Mar 03 - 12:51 PM Immortal, Invisible Jerusalem Brother James Air (23rd psalm) |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: clueless don Date: 07 Mar 03 - 01:34 PM My favorite hymn? Well, there is a Catholic hymn for which I don't know the title or the words, but I am rather fond of the tune. But I would have to say that my two favorite hymns (can't break the tie) are 1) Harvest Home (also called "Come ye thankful people come"), and 2) Jerusalem ("And did those feet, in ancient times ...") Don |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: GUEST,Andrew Date: 07 Mar 03 - 05:30 PM Cwm Rondda takes a lot of beating. For Nautical Types Eternal Father I have another in my head is it 'And shall it be' ? |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: Catherine Jayne Date: 07 Mar 03 - 05:34 PM "Through all the Changing Scenes of Life" |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: Catherine Jayne Date: 07 Mar 03 - 05:35 PM "Thine Be The Glory" |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: khandu Date: 07 Mar 03 - 09:13 PM Two rank as my favorites. "Leaning on the Everlasting Arms" and "The Solid Rock". However, I do not like them (Nor many others) done traditionally. "The Solid Rock" done on acoustic guitar sends Glory bumps up my spine. I did a "soulful" version of "Leaning..." with a Black gospel quartet singing background. When their voices came in, my hair stood on end! Glorious! Ken |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: Haruo Date: 08 Mar 03 - 11:17 PM Ringer and greg stephens have it, sharyn, the tune you must mean is Tallis's "Third Mode Melody" (which is also the tune name used in America); it is given in the Hymnal 1940 as the second tune for the text, #424, with Dykes' "Vox Dilecti" given first (this is the tune I'm used to, and the one I assumed you meant till you clarified). There's a MIDI arrangement of this Tallis tune in the Cyber Hymnal with a different text, When Rising from the Bed of Death by Joseph Addison, which I believe Ringer mentioned. Listen to it and tell me if it needs revamping or is basically what you have in mind. Haruo |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: sharyn Date: 09 Mar 03 - 12:37 AM Sorry, Haruo, I cannot play tunes on my computer, an ancient Mac with no sound and hardly any memory. The best I could do would be to track down a hymnal and write it down note for note, or pick a starting pitch and write the notes I sing. Which I will do, if anyone requests it |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: Haruo Date: 09 Mar 03 - 01:21 AM Joe F, when you say "the Captain Kidd hymn" do you mean "Wondrous Love"? (What wondrous love is this, O my soul, O my soul...) Or what? (the tunes are indeed closely related) sharyn, sorry you can't hear music on your Mac. Can you see GIFs? PM me your email, and I'll email you GIFs of the melody line from (1) the Cyber Hymnal and (2) Hymnal 1940, so you can compare them with what you actually sing. Okay? Haruo |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: Haruo Date: 09 Mar 03 - 01:58 AM Sorry, I mean can you see a JPEG on your screen? not a GIF Haruo |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: sharyn Date: 09 Mar 03 - 02:03 AM O.K., Haruo. I learned it from the 1940 hymnal so I'm sure it is the same as what is there. I sang soprano then -- that's the melody I know -- but the real melody may be in the tenor part (I have a vague memory that it might be). And, yes, my Mac does JPEGs if they are not too big. |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: GUEST,Dan Date: 09 Mar 03 - 02:30 AM What I don't understand, well, other than the entire spectrum of religious crap, is why you try to write new hymns in 16th century English. Has God got a problem understanding modern languages? |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: Neighmond Date: 09 Mar 03 - 03:19 AM it's called "poetic license", Guest Dan. You would do well in using some. Chaz |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: COINWOLF Date: 09 Mar 03 - 05:16 AM Many favourites have already been mentioned. Here in Upton Upon Severn a local group of people called "Meadowsweet" are singing ones that have become firm favourites but as yet not mentioned already; It is well with my soul (arranged by John Evans) A Clare Benediction by John Rutter Song of Peace by Mary Donnelly God's Choir by Ray Overholt Standin' in de need of prayer (arranged by Hugh Roberton) Steal away to Jesus also arranged by Hugh Roberton) Swing low, sweet chariot also arranged by Hugh Roberton) Good 4 part singing, Meadowsweet available to perform locally(for charities only) |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: Strupag Date: 09 Mar 03 - 06:26 AM For me it's got to be the carol, Child in a Manger which was written a long time ago in gaelic originally by Mary MacDonald in the Scottish island of Mull. The obvious Hebridean air was given new words by Eleanor Farjeon and called Morning Has Broken. This ,of course, was made famous by Cat Stephens. Although "Morning" is one of my all time favourites I still actually prefer the original words. Here they are (English translation) Words: Mary M. Macdonald Music: "Bunessan," traditional Gaelic melody Child in the Manger Child in the manger, Infant of Mary, Outcast and Stranger, Lord of all, Child Who inherits all our transgressions, All our demerits on Him fall. Once the most holy Child of salvation Gently and lowly lived below. Now as our glorious mighty Redeemer, See Him victorious o'er each foe. Prophets foretold Him, Infant of wonder; Angels behold Him on His throne. Worthy our Savior of all our praises; Happy forever are His own |
Subject: RE: Your Favourite Hymn From: The Walrus Date: 09 Mar 03 - 06:44 AM Ah, so many to choose from, so, in no particular order:- I agree with Menolly "The Good Old Way" ("Lift up your hearts...") "Jerusalem" "Abide With Me" "Eternal Father Strong to Save" Psalm 23 (to "Crimmond") "Oh God, Our Help in Ages Past" "Now Thak We, All, Our God" And the tune to "Ein Feterburg" (sp?) as I've never heard the English version ("A Mighty Fortress") Too many? I'm sorry, I just can't choose. Regards Walrus |
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