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Lyr Add: Willie o' Winesberry

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ARBUTUS
THOMAS OF WINESBURY
WILLIE O' WINSBURY
YOUNG BARBOUR


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Barb'ry 23 Mar 04 - 11:10 AM
Matthew Edwards 23 Mar 04 - 04:33 PM
Barb'ry 23 Mar 04 - 05:29 PM
Susan of DT 23 Mar 04 - 07:00 PM
Phil Edwards 28 Feb 12 - 05:23 AM
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Subject: Lyr Add: WILLIE O' WINESBERRY (from R Cinnamond)
From: Barb'ry
Date: 23 Mar 04 - 11:10 AM

I want to sing the version of Willie of Winesberry sung by Robert Cinnamond on the Songs of the People CD, 'It fell on a Day, a bonny summer day'. It's a great recording but quite muffled in places and I wondered if anyone has the missing words. The ones I have are (I think) as follows:

There was a lady lived in the west and she was dressed in green
And she leaned over her father's castle wall for to see the ships sail in

What is wrong with you her father did say, you look so pale and wan
For you must have some sure sickness or have lain with some young man

Oh I have had no sure sickness but I'm in love with a young man
And the only thing that breaks my heart is what keeps my darling so long

Is he a lord or a squire or a duke or a man of noted fame
Or is he young John from the Isle of Man that ploughs the raging main?

He is neither a lord, a squire or a duke or a man of noted fame
But he is young John from the Isle of Man that ploughs the raging main

Then call him down the salt sea **** and bring him here to me
If he's thinking to gain my daughter's hand he must leave this country

Oh father dear don't be severe or be cruel unto me
Oh if you send away young John Barlow? you will get no good of me

Then the king he called in his merry, merry men and he called them by one two and three
And instead of young John being the very first man, the very last one was he

He entered the room young John Barlow and the clothing he wore was silk
And his 2 blue eyes like the morning stars and his skin as white as milk

Aye you think you did wonder the king he did say, my daughter's in love with thee
For if I was a woman as I am a man, my bedmate you would be

Will you wed my daughter he said, will you take her by the hand
And you shall dine at my table and be master over all my land

I will wed your daughter he said but she's no match for me
For every pound that she counts down, I can count thirty three

Now fill your glasses to the brim, drink a health to your country
Drink a health to young John from the Isle of Man and to his lady*******

Hope someone can help
Thank you
Barbara


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: ? version of Willie o'Winesberry
From: Matthew Edwards
Date: 23 Mar 04 - 04:33 PM

Hi Barbara. I can't think of a better version of this song to learn from so I hope to hear you singing this soon.

I've been listening to the song again, and with the help of the text given in the booklet accompanying the CD these are the changes I'd make:-

v2.2 For you must have some sure sickness or have lain with some young man
For you must have some sore sickness or have lain with some young man

v3.1 Oh I have had no sure sickness but I'm in love with a young man
Oh I have had no sore sickness but I'm in love with a young man

v6.1 Then call him down the salt sea **** and bring him here to me
Then call him down the salt sea [strand?] and bring him here to me

v8.2 And instead of young John being the very first man, the very last one was he
And instead of young John being the very first man, the very last one came he

v13.2 Drink a health to young John from the Isle of Man and to his lady*******
Drink a health to young John from the Isle of Man and to Lady Winsbally

I'm not at all sure about the conjectured [strand] in v6 - it sounds more like "column"(?) to me. Good luck with singing it anyway.

Matthew


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: ? version of Willie o'Winesberry
From: Barb'ry
Date: 23 Mar 04 - 05:29 PM

Thanks Matthew - see you soon, I hope
xx
ps - the booklet has gone walkabout in our house!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: ? version of Willie o'Winesberry
From: Susan of DT
Date: 23 Mar 04 - 07:00 PM

Put Child #100 in th esearch box to see 4 versions of this song.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Willie o' Winesberry
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 28 Feb 12 - 05:23 AM

I was just working up Tom the Barber when I remembered this version.

You're right, Matthew - if you see this! - it's a good text & an excellent tune.

On the disputed word in v6, I wonder if it's

Then call him down, the salt sea clown, and bring him here to me

There's a similar internal rhyme in v7 - and 'clown' doesn't necessarily mean 'clown' in the modern sense; it was in use to mean 'peasant' well into the nineteenth century.


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