BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle

Subject: BS: Newcastle (no longer) Broon Ale
From: GUEST,Mr Red (who never drinks it)
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 08:22 AM

I heard on the news that they are ceasing production of NBA in Newcastle and moving brewing to Gatehead.

Could have been worse - It might have moved to Sunderland................

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastl
From: Bill D
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 12:52 PM

just as well...it has become a weird 'cult' item in certain places when imported here in the US, and they are charging exhorbitant prices for it. Perhaps the move will be for the better...(hey...maybe they could 'outsource' production to India! Dip bottles into the sacred Ganges, add some alcohol and color....)

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastl
From: DougR
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 04:34 PM

Horrors! Is this an example of "outsourcing" jobs?

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: GUEST,John O'Lennaine
Date: 24 Apr 04 - 02:28 AM

"Gatehead Brown Ale"?
Sounds as though it wouldn't taste as nice.

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Terry K
Date: 24 Apr 04 - 03:18 AM

student beer - strictly for amateurs. Double Maxim used to be so much better if you absolutely HAD to drink brown ale.

cheers, Terry

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Mr Red
Date: 24 Apr 04 - 04:01 AM

strictly cider here. All brews with hops have that taste that does not appeal.

I was just amused by the concept - now - is a person from Gatesheed (correct pronunciation) still a Geordie Hinny?

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 24 Apr 04 - 04:39 AM

Branston Pickle's not made in Branston either.
:0)

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: GUEST,eartling
Date: 24 Apr 04 - 04:51 AM

And there's not an ounce of "ooh la la" in Mr Kipling's French Fancies. Mon Dieu what's the world coming to?

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 24 Apr 04 - 05:06 AM

Mann's Brown Ale was a good 'un. Thicker and browner than Newckie and tasted a lot better too. Been wazzed on it many a time. I remember one famous occasion in Great Yarmouth (but that's another story, and she's a respectable married woman now..........)
:0)

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Mr Red
Date: 24 Apr 04 - 06:32 AM

If you remember it - were you there?

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 24 Apr 04 - 07:28 AM

Where ?
eric

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Leadfingers
Date: 24 Apr 04 - 08:19 AM

But they are stopping brewing Guiness at Park Royal - It will soon ALL come from Dublin !!

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Strick
Date: 24 Apr 04 - 10:39 AM

This is the kind of investigative reporting both our respective country needs.

Clinton's responsible, right? Something he did or said years ago made this happen.

(for if you can't make fun of yourself, who can you make fun of?)

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Mr Red
Date: 24 Apr 04 - 11:49 AM

Which one William Jefferson or Hammond (who doesn't the source of that name - I'll wager)

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Strick
Date: 24 Apr 04 - 12:54 PM

Your choice. I get into enough trouble with either one of them. :D

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 24 Apr 04 - 04:39 PM

I think I was there. It was me who had to have the penicillin, so I probably was. :0)

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 24 Apr 04 - 04:49 PM

As outsourcing goes, this is not exectly long-distance stuff - see this map which shows Newcastle and Gateshead.

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 24 Apr 04 - 04:52 PM

I'm sure I posted a bit about Mann's here. Perhaps I have drunk too much of it! Not that that would make much difference at only 2.8% abv - Still a fine drop of beer though. Formaly made by Watneys and now brewed by Ushers of Trowbridge. Fine quaffing beer, long may it remain so!

On the theme of the thread you may be interested to know, or not as the case may be, that the biggest local Eccles cake backery is now in Ardwick. Whatever next? Cheddar cheese not made in Cheddar...;-)

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: John Routledge
Date: 24 Apr 04 - 06:54 PM

Mann's makes better "Beef in Brown Ale" than Newcastle.

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 25 Apr 04 - 04:07 AM

And don't forget "Vladivar" Vodka is made in Warrington England..Not Russia.

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: GUEST,earthling
Date: 25 Apr 04 - 06:33 AM

And have you ever seen a Swiss Roll skiing down an Alp?

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 25 Apr 04 - 03:14 PM

A very great deal of cheddar is made elsewhere than cheddar - I used to work in a cheese-dairy in Nottinghamshire where we made Cheddar and Cheshire! Should have been done under the Trades Description Act!
Johnny :0)

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Raedwulf
Date: 25 Apr 04 - 03:41 PM

Not really. This is one of the things that pisses me off about those useless, worthless, faceless dickheads in Brussels when they start fussing along the lines of "You can't call it that unless you make it there". A recipe is a recipe, & it rarely makes much difference where it's made. Take all that fuss last year about Parma ham. If they were to make it in Parma using imported Danish pork, would it still be Parma ham? And, if so, why is it suddenly not Parma ham if it is made with (presumably Italian) pork processed in the same fashion in Denmark? Stupid!

OTOH, alcohol is one of those things that is affected by where it's made, be it beer or wine. And one of my favourites is still Trent Mild, 2.7% out of a can from Tesco's. A very nice pint - drink beer for flavour not alcoholic strength! I find most super-strong (over 6%) beers sickly, frankly. Oh, & there's nothing wrong with a decent pint of Brown, Terry K! (Although Newkie, or Gatey, or whatever you want to call it, is no more than average).

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Terry K
Date: 26 Apr 04 - 04:14 AM

Don't get me wrong RW, if they ran out of bitter and that's all there was, I'd soon be drinking brown ale. In fact, for a bitter drinker, Newcastle Amber (pale ale) was the better choice - not too bad actually. But the students didn't popularise it like they did the broon, probably not sweet enough for them.

cheers, Terry

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 26 Apr 04 - 04:48 AM

I was joking about the Trades Descriptions Act. The smiley face was a hint! :0)

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: MC Fat
Date: 26 Apr 04 - 05:37 AM

To be a Bakewell Tart she doesn't need to reside in the town.

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Gurney
Date: 26 Apr 04 - 06:13 AM

Much Cheddar is made in by Anchor in NZ.
Stilton never was made in Stilton, in the days when it was made properly, but on Leicestershire farms.
'British' brand shoes are made in Fiji.
I once heard that a Japanese industrial area had been named 'Birmingham' but that was in the days when British was best.

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Apr 04 - 06:16 AM

Here's another question. If you are in Bombay do you have to ask for Bombay mix? Or do you just ask for mix? I guess the latter, because if you go into a pub in Newcastle and as for a 'broon' we all know what you will get. (Aprt form a clip round the ear for taking the piss...) So, I guess MC needs to very carefull in cake shops in Derbyshire:-)

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: MC Fat
Date: 26 Apr 04 - 06:52 AM

I'm always careful in cake shops in Derbyshire mainly due to an old scots mate of mine who after buying a bun asked the very lovely female assistant could he 'no have a poke' whereupon she slapped him on the face. A poke in Derbyshire/Northern England is a request for sexual gratification.... a poke in Scotland is a paper bag.

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: GUEST,sorefingers
Date: 26 Apr 04 - 09:32 AM

When I buy this beer in foreign places it tastes much the same as in blighty. I suppose it must travel well so moving it over to Gateshead can't make that much of a difference.

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 26 Apr 04 - 10:12 AM

Are there any breweries who still produce a proper Brown Ale these days. The Newcastle stuff, although very drinkable as bottled beers goes, was never what I would define as a brown ale, which was more of a bottled mild. At one time it was a standard product of every brewery, but now it seems to have completely disappeared. Rather as some Bitter drinkers would add a bit more sparkle to a pint by having a "Light and Bitter", many Mild drinkers would order a "Brown and Mild".

Brown Ale was usually slightly sweet and was wonderful for adding to casseroles and as far as I was concerned, indispensible for creating the perfect Welsh Rarebit.

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Beardy
Date: 26 Apr 04 - 11:34 AM

This is the second brewery Scottish Courage have closed in 3 months, following the Fountain brewery in Edinburgh. Although closing the Newcastle brewery they have bought Federation brewery a much smaller site and brewlength. What with their purchase of a 30% share in Caledonian in Edinburgh and selling Theakstons back to the Theakston family there are some strange moves going on in the ScotCo boardroom.

Mann's Brown Ale is not brewed by Ushers as Ushers was closed in 2000. Its brewed under contract by Burtonwood for the Innspired pub group.

Dave some micros are producing brown ales but usually named distinctinely rather than as brown ales and the image that is often associated with that name.

Stewart

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: IvanB
Date: 26 Apr 04 - 09:07 PM

We had lunch with a friend today and, in the course of the conversation it came up that her father came from Sunderland. Then I opened this thread and found Sunderland mentioned in the first post. Inquiring minds want to know: What's wrong with Sunderland? Should we shun our friend even though her dad's been dead for years and we're thousands of miles away? Certainly wouldn't want to be caught associating with the wrong types, y'know. It'll hurt though - she's been my wife's best friend for years and is dearly loved by both of us.

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 05:18 AM

"and selling Theakstons back to the Theakston family"

I thought they'd only sold the brewery itself back, but retained the Theakstons name. Isn't the brewery now producing the "Black Sheep" brews ?

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 07:47 AM

Arrrggghhh - I didn't know that, Beardy! Another fine brewery fallen by the wayside...

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 12:37 PM

Newcastle Brown - Memories of college gigs in the late sixties and wading through puke after the show. Student nerds who used to quaff the horrible stuff, wobble around making prats of themselves and then throw up! Didn't Lidisfarne use the logo?

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: C-flat
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 01:27 PM

In response to IvanBs' enquiry "What's wrong with Sunderland?", nothing wrong with Sunderland persay (in fact my S.O. is a "mackem") but the rivalry, which borders on hatred, between the two neighbouring cities makes the notion of brewing "Newcastle Brown Ale" in Sunderland, unthinkable for both parties!

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 03:43 PM

all this talk of newcastle brown ale being moved to gateshead. the impression i received was that production was actually being moved to dunston rather than gateshead. or is this splitting hairs

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: IvanB
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 07:28 PM

And, if the proper pronunciation is "Gatesheed," is that "Gates heed" or "Gate sheed?"

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 28 Apr 04 - 06:38 AM

Beers are a world economy. Irish Budweiser is made by Guinness and the dark, rich, Modello of Mexico is 40% owned by Budwiser.

Sincerely,

Gargoyle

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Bagpuss
Date: 28 Apr 04 - 07:39 AM

Nothing wrong with Sunderland except that its full of Makems...

I'm from Gateshead and I pronounce it Gyayts'd (but then us lot from The Fellin' are a strange lot).

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: GUEST,MR Red get erudite
Date: 28 Apr 04 - 08:06 AM

MC Fat ..............

Bakewell PUDDING (which is almost as in your endo as TART). Obviously you never went into a cake shop in Bakewell and got away with either mistake!

poke is the diminutive of pocket (I am told) hence the "Pig in a Poke" which was probably a cat anyway. So a paper bag (originally a cloth sack on would presume) looks like it all fits neatly - except when you let the "cat out of the bag" (same reference).

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Mr Happy
Date: 01 Mar 09 - 09:42 AM

Shock Horror!!

Just discovered Pears Soap now made in India!

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Mr Happy
Date: 01 Mar 09 - 09:44 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pears_soap

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: GUEST,buspassed
Date: 01 Mar 09 - 10:18 AM

So what happened to Newcastle Amber? Last bottle I had was in '75 at the bar of Hammersmith Odeon prior to seeing Joan Armarading in concert.

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Gurney
Date: 01 Mar 09 - 10:05 PM

Mr Happy, they never did make it from pears, anyway!

On topic, would anyone call this "A Bridge Too Far, tha naaz."

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 02 Mar 09 - 02:52 AM

Why are hamburgers called that when they contain no ham ?

Dave H

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Mr Happy
Date: 02 Mar 09 - 04:25 AM

Dave,

'Cos they're meat patties originating from Hamburg, Germany

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Mr Happy
Date: 02 Mar 09 - 04:28 AM

Hmmmnnn, just checked out Hamburger origin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburger


Seems they originated from Hamburg, New York!!

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Mr Happy
Date: 02 Mar 09 - 04:49 AM

...................as here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ6xBaZ92uA !!!

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 02 Mar 09 - 05:00 AM

Ah, but Dorset Knobs are still made only in Dorset!

(Check it on Wiki if you don't believe the name!)

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: bubblyrat
Date: 02 Mar 09 - 06:57 PM

Gosh !! All this scare-mongering has got me a-worrying.So I just nipped into the kitchen to check and -----Phew!! Thank heavens! My Worcester Sauce is still made in the eponymous city!!... Not so sure about my can of Waitrose French onion soup,'though.

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: GUEST,Foodie
Date: 03 Mar 09 - 02:01 AM

<pedant>
Cheddar cheese is of course named after the manufacturing process of "cheddaring" not the place
</pedant>

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Gurney
Date: 04 Mar 09 - 01:13 AM

Not according to WordWeb, Foodie. "First made in ....

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Mr Happy
Date: 05 Mar 09 - 08:43 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheddar_(cheese)

Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle
From: Bluegrassman
Date: 05 Mar 09 - 08:04 PM

Probably one of the best beers in the whole world is on sale at the beer festival at the Chequers Inn at Goldanger in Essex until Sunday 8th March, thechequersgoldhanger.co.uk It is draught Double Maxim, made just like it used to be before Vaux went bust.