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BS: Comfort food

Sandra in Sydney 18 Jul 22 - 10:17 PM
Senoufou 19 Jul 22 - 03:11 AM
Sandra in Sydney 19 Jul 22 - 05:50 AM
Doug Chadwick 19 Jul 22 - 07:01 AM
Steve Shaw 19 Jul 22 - 08:52 AM
Charmion 20 Jul 22 - 11:18 AM
Donuel 20 Jul 22 - 04:19 PM
Mrrzy 21 Jul 22 - 11:30 PM
Donuel 25 Jul 22 - 01:18 PM
Donuel 25 Jul 22 - 01:40 PM
Mrrzy 25 Jul 22 - 01:54 PM
Steve Shaw 25 Jul 22 - 02:28 PM
Donuel 25 Jul 22 - 04:48 PM
Steve Shaw 25 Jul 22 - 07:36 PM
Mrrzy 26 Jul 22 - 10:15 AM
Steve Shaw 26 Jul 22 - 05:28 PM
Donuel 26 Jul 22 - 06:54 PM
Steve Shaw 26 Jul 22 - 07:24 PM
leeneia 28 Jul 22 - 04:42 PM
Steve Shaw 28 Jul 22 - 05:24 PM
Doug Chadwick 28 Jul 22 - 05:35 PM
Donuel 28 Jul 22 - 10:09 PM
Senoufou 29 Jul 22 - 02:51 AM
Mrrzy 29 Jul 22 - 03:55 PM
Senoufou 30 Jul 22 - 01:25 AM
Charmion 30 Jul 22 - 08:42 AM
Mrrzy 30 Jul 22 - 11:57 AM

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Subject: RE: BS: Comfort food
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 18 Jul 22 - 10:17 PM

My widowed grandmother moved in with her newly widowed sister when I was 10 or 11, & I don't really remember Mrs Strawberry who lived down the street from Nana, but I have a taste memory of her delicious little fresh berries anytime I eat a modern strawberry - is that all there is, is that all there is?   

We have street gardens in nearly suburbs & I sometimes see strawberry plants. I might ask my friend whose neighbours have gardens about getting permission for me to try a fresh berry in season. She usually has cream in her fridge ...


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Subject: RE: BS: Comfort food
From: Senoufou
Date: 19 Jul 22 - 03:11 AM

Bananas are sprayed with a dodgy insecticide (chlorpyrifos ethyl) where they are cultivated in tropical countries. This has appalling effects on the plantation workers. It also penetrates the skin of the banana and is found in the actual fruit. I suffer from vertigo if I eat bananas (which is a shame as I love 'em!) I end up dizzy as a duck and vomit copiously, and it lasts for a couple of days. So no more of them for me!
I now 'indulge' in those Piccolino tomatoes (small sweet ones) and black grapes from Spain. And whoopee! those huge black juicy sweet cherries are now coming in to the supermarkets.They're grown here in UK so I imagine no dodgy chemicals.
I think fruit as 'comfort food' has caused me to lose all the weight and turn me into a respectable size 12.


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Subject: RE: BS: Comfort food
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 19 Jul 22 - 05:50 AM

Our bananas are local, grown several hundred km north, & I just checked, & our growers use Chlorpyrifos dust

hmmmmm

I have fruit after every meal. yum!

we are now in apple & citrus season, of course, northern hemisphere stone fruit & cherries are here, but I don't eat fruit out of season, apart from the grapes & cherries I freeze when our season is ending ...


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Subject: RE: BS: Comfort food
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 19 Jul 22 - 07:01 AM

.... omit the milk if you're not keeping track of your calcium intake), .....
...... (I have a jar full of reusable acrylic straws ......
........ then I add a teaspoon full of powdered gelatin (this is for strengthening my nails, ......
..... If you like your smoothie a little sweeter a little stevia ....


Strawberries, peaches, spinach, some of the most popular are also on the "dirty dozen" list as far as pesticide use.


Bananas are sprayed with a dodgy insecticide (chlorpyrifos ethyl) ......



Well, it was comfort food until I had to start thinking about what to add or leave out to make it healthier, about saving the planet and where to find sugar substitutes. Worrying about what pesticides may have been used takes all the fun out of it.

Comfort food is anything that is enjoyable and makes you feel happier even if it isn't good for your health.

DC


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Subject: RE: BS: Comfort food
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Jul 22 - 08:52 AM

It's the world we live in. Just wash your fruit and veg, even the ones with thick skins, and enjoy life.


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Subject: RE: BS: Comfort food
From: Charmion
Date: 20 Jul 22 - 11:18 AM

I made a large pot of cockaleekie yesterday, enough to last me at least a week.

A kilo of chicken thigh meat, three large leeks, 200 grams of pot barley, two litres of chicken stock, 100 grams or so of bacon lardons (I happened to have some pancetta, so I used that), some garlic, some thyme, some ground black pepper, just enough salt -- the bacon might provide enough.

Cockaleekie soup (or stew, depending on how much stock you put in it) is an elemental dish that makes me happy just in the contemplation. It can be fancied up or dressed down -- in my impecunious youth, when leeks were still cheap, I made it with plain water and a frozen stewing hen -- but it's always soothing as well as nutritious.


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Subject: RE: BS: Comfort food
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jul 22 - 04:19 PM

"Comfort food is anything that is enjoyable and makes you feel happier even if it isn't good for your health".
I'll second that. Even a bitter alkaloid can fill the bill.


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Subject: RE: BS: Comfort food
From: Mrrzy
Date: 21 Jul 22 - 11:30 PM

Biiig on soups. Hot temp hot spice, brothy, or if cold gazpacho, or cuke and/or avocado.


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Subject: RE: BS: Comfort food
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Jul 22 - 01:18 PM

I use the word organic in the sense of being pure plant based.
"This is your brain (a seed)...this is your brain on plants" - (a flower blooms). Anyone who drinks tea or coffee probably does it for effect more than taste, although orange peco tastes good. Without caffeine you may not feel like yourself.

A proper pharmakon can even enhance and create democracies. Such as a Eleusinian ceremony bringing the population together and Tribes of many cultures celebrating mescaline or ayaquesca or the average Western drunk singing away. Changing consciousness is a natural drive like sex.
Pharmakon is the Greek word which has two opposite meanings - "cure" and "poison". The concept of pharmakon, according to Derrida, produces a play of binary oppositions crucial to Western logocentric tradition: remedy/poison, speech/writing, good/bad, interior/ exterior, etc.

The poison part is usually an alkaloid made by a plant. Some alkaloids are dangerous in large quantities. THC, a cannabinoid, is not an alkaloid. It does not form salts in an aqueous solution (i.e., it's not soluble in water).

I am a proponent of psylocybin because of its ability to jolly good answer actual direct questions. For example I asked the mushroom I was about to eat "what will our new energy source be?" Later before my eyes in 3D space a small circle with a triangle around it appeared. It was indelibly memorable and unique. I did not understand until later that lithium ion batteries are made of lithium Atomic wt.3 and hydrogen Atomic wt. 1. AHA! a small circle in a three sided triangle. Personal questions were also somewhat symbolicly answered. Images with eyes closed also revealed fascinating windows and mirrors of the mind in the form of Aztec art visualization possibly because the strain was Amazonian and I associated it with them although I think the Aztecs were mostly east of the mountains. There is a small learning curve with its use and never caused me any distress. Where I live they use it for cancer patients who are anxious and it changes their entire perspective. Psylocybin is for so much more than that, beyond whatever I can imagine.

Some people live in the past some strictly in the present which is great but I live with a foot in the future and the future has some advantages coming from our neighbors the plants and fungus. Perhaps they always have.

PS My first experience coincided with accidentally seeing the movie Its a Wonderful Life that begins with two galaxies talking to each other, then hyjinks delightfully ensued.


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Subject: RE: BS: Comfort food
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Jul 22 - 01:40 PM

is miceillium an underground neural network of life?

It turns out mushrooms are more closely related to the animal kingdom than plants.


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Subject: RE: BS: Comfort food
From: Mrrzy
Date: 25 Jul 22 - 01:54 PM

Organic doesn't *mean* plant-based, donuel. Even in grocery stores.

For this weekend's glycogen break I had half a poppyseed bagel with butter and ham, ooh, the bottom half the next day toasted with butter and cherry preserves, aah. I had 7 French fries dipped in my alfredo-no-pasta, ooh, and several tablespoons of fried rice, aah. 2 breakfasts 2 dinners.

Back to yummy lettuce cukes tomato vinaigrette with almonds, pistachios, and --wait for it-- anchovies.

Also a half avocado with vinaigrette in the hole.


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Subject: RE: BS: Comfort food
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Jul 22 - 02:28 PM

Ditch the magic mushrooms and keep both your feet in reality.


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Subject: RE: BS: Comfort food
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Jul 22 - 04:48 PM

Why be so butch ladies?
I hope you never taste Amazonian cubensis psylocybe. That would be punishment although imo cruel and most unusual.
To each their own, some people can't handle it as with many things.
i am thankful mushrooms exist but mostly
i am thankful we won't have to watch both of you eat :^/
i had some mm 30+ years ago, too late now to change the past.

The last link has Cambridge University's foremost fungi authority along with 2 silly Americans.
its funny












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Subject: RE: BS: Comfort food
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Jul 22 - 07:36 PM

You remonstrated with me a few weeks ago when I'd suggested that you were in possession of magic mushrooms. Since then, several times you've eulogised about them. Well if you've eulogised about them, it seems to me that you've indulged in them, thereby having had possession of them.

Make your mind up. In this country their possession and use are illegal, rightly so in my opinion. They are widely held to be potentially harmful and unpredictable in their effects. It seems wrong to me that you are promoting their use in this forum. Pick them, use them, enjoy them. But I think you need to keep quiet about it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Comfort food
From: Mrrzy
Date: 26 Jul 22 - 10:15 AM

Oh, nonsense. Don't eat'm if you don't want to.

A good friend has given me some to help with my back. Not taking'm, but it was a kind gesture.

Going to have chicken broth with nothing else in it. That is a cup of comfort right there.


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Subject: RE: BS: Comfort food
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Jul 22 - 05:28 PM

I'm suggesting that we abide by the law and you regard that as nonsense. That's quite interesting. Perhaps you'd like a return to the Wild West too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Comfort food
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Jul 22 - 06:54 PM

The experience is so remarkable that its memory is crystal clear after 30+ years. So much for your speculation regarding this least addictive substance. I remember having a Cinnabun but mm is better although the taste is foul.


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Subject: RE: BS: Comfort food
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Jul 22 - 07:24 PM

The substance you are promoting, and which you admit to having possessed and used, is illegal under federal law in your country. On this law-abiding forum you are promoting the use of an illegal substance. Let me be clear that, in any vote to legalise magic mushrooms, I'd vote to legalise them, as long as they were gathered for personal use, were found in the wild and had not been subjected to any chemical modification at all.


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Subject: RE: BS: Comfort food
From: leeneia
Date: 28 Jul 22 - 04:42 PM

Let's get back to comfort food.

A couple weeks I got a bad bug and had to subsist on broth, fruit juice and creamy peanut butter for a while. When I got mostly better, we looked around the kitchen and found there was not much to eat.

I can't believe what I, a good and proud cook, settled on and absolutely enjoyed - low-sodium Spam, cut into chunks, sauteed and added to pasta with a little oil and some mild herbs. I forget what the herbs were.

Heaven!


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Subject: RE: BS: Comfort food
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Jul 22 - 05:24 PM

At one school I taught at, and indulged in the school dinners there, spam fritters were frequently on the menu and I would never have not had them. Another treat was egg and cheese flan...


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Subject: RE: BS: Comfort food
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 28 Jul 22 - 05:35 PM

Spam fritters wouldn't offer me much comfort. Each to his own, I suppose.

DC


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Subject: RE: BS: Comfort food
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Jul 22 - 10:09 PM

Apple strudle flakey and full


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Subject: RE: BS: Comfort food
From: Senoufou
Date: 29 Jul 22 - 02:51 AM

Oh my Lord Steve! Spam fritters? I absolutely loathed them when I had school dinners (1950's) Disgusting. I always refused to eat mine, but one of the dinner ladies knew my mum, and she told her every time I hadn't eaten my dinner. I got a good smack when my mother got home from work.
I've lost 3 stone now, and have had to do a bit of sewing or my underwear falls down :) No crumpets ever again :( but my new comfort food is edamame beans. Love 'em!


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Subject: RE: BS: Comfort food
From: Mrrzy
Date: 29 Jul 22 - 03:55 PM

Oooh buttered crumpets... in the Tavern with the Old Lady.


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Subject: RE: BS: Comfort food
From: Senoufou
Date: 30 Jul 22 - 01:25 AM

Mrrzy vous me tentez! Mais si je recommence avec les petits crepes je vais devenir grosse encore. Surtout avec bcp de beurre!


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Subject: RE: BS: Comfort food
From: Charmion
Date: 30 Jul 22 - 08:42 AM

Buttered crumpets — with proper Seville orange marmalade! And a large mug of tea.


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Subject: RE: BS: Comfort food
From: Mrrzy
Date: 30 Jul 22 - 11:57 AM

What is the "trop de beurre" of which you speak? N'importe quoi!


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