BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: The Shambles
Date: 22 Aug 04 - 06:40 AM

For Kevin's benefit, the person referred (who I quoted but did not name) to was Guest Treehouse.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: The Shambles - PM
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 08:10 PM

This is the only unmoderated forum I come to, hence the frustration level of those of us who know what we're missing here, when things get more puerile than usual.

If this person considers this now to be an unmoderated forum and no one (especially our unknown numbers of uknown volunteer moderators) posts to corrects them - does it mean that it now is an unmoderated forum?

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: The Shambles
Date: 22 Aug 04 - 06:32 AM

As far as I can make out, during the period between then and now, there has been no significant change in policy. All that has happened is that the system has had newer and more visible (and useful IMO) enhancements such as the ability to close threads and to rename thread titles. I'd also suggest that the FAQ made knowledge that posts could be deleted more open.

Jon I was making the simple point that despite what you say about the FAQ - there are still many people who are under the impression that this is an unmoderated site. And that still none of our volunteers have posted to correct this impression and to give a true picture of the extent of this imposed editing and to change the 'cloud- cookoo land' that many long term posters are under and the myth that many insist on trying to defend.

There is the 'spin' but truth is that the list of contributions that will receive routine imposed editing is long, getting even longer and threatens to become endless. And all done as a reaction,with questionable effect, in making any difference to the problem, it is supposed to deal with.

These reasons can all be summed up as that personal judgement will be made in secret, on the worth of the contribution and reactive editing action will be automatically be imposed (and defended) in secret, whatever the nature or level of the supposed offence.

This censorship, which can better better described as the single summary punishment, will be imposed without consultation with other volunters and without the prior knowledge of the contributor, often at the request of fellow posters who are encouraged to post (now also in secret) to do this.

This one punishment will be automatically imposed for offences which range from a (supposed) personal attack to just being unlucky enough to have posted to an entire thread that is deleted or closed because it is easier to do this than for the vounteer to make the effort or take the time just to delete the 'offending' few postings.

It is a time for more imagination and honesty and for a far better example to be set. Especially by those who volunteer to judge the worth of other's contributions and who wish to shape our forum by imposed editing action based on this judgement, rather than by the encouragement of our forum to be shaped by setting an example of positive contributions.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 22 Aug 04 - 06:24 AM

If this person considers this now to be an unmoderated forum and no one (especially our unknown numbers of unknown volunteer moderators) posts to corrects them - does it mean that it now is an unmoderated forum?(The Shambles).

I've just read this three times, and I still can't make it out too well. I think "this person" here means "The Shambles", as in the Kai Lung stories, but I'm not sure. (I recommend Kai Lung to people who prefer their humour dry and gentle.)

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 22 Aug 04 - 04:49 AM

Shambles,

If this person considers this now to be an unmoderated forum and no one (especially our unknown numbers of uknown volunteer moderators) posts to corrects them - does it mean that it now is an unmoderated forum?

When was "then"? I'm sure there would have been a "then" before new facilites were added but moderation has existed here in all the time I've been around, ie. since 1999. There have also been hidden "Joe Clones" in all this time.

As far as I can make out, during the period between then and now, there has been no significant change in policy. All that has happened is that the system has had newer and more visible (and useful IMO) enhancements such as the ability to close threads and to rename thread titles. I'd also suggest that the FAQ made knowledge that posts could be deleted more open.

In fact overall, I would suggest the whole approach is more, not less, open now than it was when I first joined - quite the opposite to what you suggest. I would further suggest that your arguments are based on what I call a "Mudcat myth". It always seemed sort of cosy to portray Mudcat as unmoderated but Mudcat was what I would describe as a very mildly moderated forum in 1999 and it remains so in 2004. Your problem appears to me to be that it took you until 2004 to realise this.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Aug 04 - 02:07 AM

Monty Python also benefitted from repetition. "Spam" comes to mind at the moment. . .

This phenomenon seems to tie in to Henri Bergson's theory of comedy as Something mechanical inlaid upon the human, and also has interesting connection to Sanford Meisner's acting pedagogy. Say--You like my tiara? I like your tiara--back and forth with a partner until something happens.

I know we've discussed the Smothers Brothers before (as I have in other venues--they address more than musical topics). This puts me in mind of

"I see by your outfit that you are a cowboy,
You see by my outfit that I'm a cowboy, too.
We see by our outfits that we are both cowboys;
If you get an outfit you can be a cowboy, too.

More or less how the song goes. They play on a well known song and repeat "outfit" and "cowboy" enough to make them uproariously funny.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 22 Aug 04 - 01:40 AM

Fred,
this 'repeating nonsense until it becomes funny' was used by Spike Milligan in some of his first Goon Shows on the BBC Radio back in the 1950's.

The classic example from one of the early shows was a character who would stick his head in a door and shout 'More Coal!' - that character did nothing else. The first time, there was silence. By the third time people were laughing. By the end of the show they were laughing uproariously, almost expecting it to be thrown in. This was Spike's '3 times and it's funny rule'. It has been documented in print in comic histories, especially those on British Humour, and the show and him especially, if you want to track it down.

Another classic from the same show was 'He's fallen in the water!'

Those who make the most noise about how wonderful their sense of humour is without publicly sharing the output results of their creative sense of humour, often are observed to have the least or narrowest sense of humour.

"Empty vessels make most sound."


Robin

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,fred miller
Date: 22 Aug 04 - 12:52 AM

pathetic attempts to be funny. I think that's certainly redundant. There's a local doctor here who is one of the leaders in exploring the healing properties of laughter, but I think it would be as significant to study the pathology of comedy.

Treehouse, there's just something about your position that makes no sense at all. Several things, really, and they all point to an unflattering characterization of your ability to think socially. Just one thing--you talk about people in power here, as if it were by some sort of... what? It's fantastically absurd. You can only influence people by example and by your own sort of participation, not by decree. And you can't really slap anybody, just make them think less of you and your input. And since you're anonymously posting that adds up to achieving less than nothing. This way won't work, and no amount of self-proclaimed high-mindedness will, would, or could. Surely you see that now. It's an autistic fantasy of social life. It's ridiculously self-centered.

And you're missing a very deep vein of humour by dismissing it out of hand. Some stupid things only really become funny by persisting against all sense and reason. It's only at the zillionth invocation of a moronic theme that it becomes somehow hilarious. A friend of mine was in a sociology class which examined jokes, and I suggested they banter a theme like, say, Is this going to be on the test? all term. It's stupid, and annoying, but. By the end it will be funny. This phenomenon seems to tie in to Henri Bergson's theory of comedy as Something mechanical inlaid upon the human, and also has interesting connection to Sanford Meisner's acting pedagogy. Say--You like my tiara? I like your tiara--back and forth with a partner until something happens.

What good is announcing you possess a fine sense of humour, instead of offering it? You seem to have it, but without meaning it.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 22 Aug 04 - 12:48 AM

Further thought has recalled to mind something relevant.

Back in the 1970's I was involved in Computing Study at University, ending up on Computing Advisory Committees, and President of the Local Student Computing Club (started in the mainframe days and which went defunct when Personal Computers became the big thing!).

The Computing Centre System Programmers & the Centre Manager had a relevant word of wisdom.

When the first multi-player games (created originally as Doctoral Thesis subject materials!) began to circulate on the mainframes, everybody, including especially the system programmers just HAD to spend hours getting thru them. You didn't get such jobs if you were intellectually deficient, by the way, so they were smart cookies!

There was only one thing to be done to deal with the situation. Yes, people were spending work time playing! But the only workable managerial response was...

"They will get sick of it in time and get back to work. Ranting and raving will only piss them off and the cleverest ones will get a job elsewhere, and we'll be left with the less clever ones. Leave them alone!"

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 22 Aug 04 - 12:10 AM

"Or has she lost her cookie somehow?"

ROFL!!!!

Sorry....


"My tolerance for this sight" - well, the correct spelling is 'SITE', but in the context, [the sight of what is happening here on these threads] - makes the comment ironically funny. But only to those who have the neural connections to see that, and I am not being intentionally insulting to the poster, it's just the way my mind works, when it does...

Some of the 'nonsense' (or BS-titled) threads, start out as just 'Shite' - it might even be in the title, but sometimes they get sidetracked into very serious discussion and even include songs.

Remember CREATIVITY strikes in many forms, -'opportunity knocks but once' - some songs of mine have been inspired by a passing comment in the BS stuff - Pot Noodles Can't Be Beat was one that my Muse kicked me in the bum with unexpectedly - or one could say 'hit me over the head with a pillow containing the rocks of a song' - inspired by a BS thread.

That song may not be to your personal taste (I'm addressing EVERYBODY), but where did you get your licence to decide that my particular form of creativity is not approved for consumption by anyone else?

:-)

Robin

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: JennyO
Date: 22 Aug 04 - 12:09 AM

This is about the rough equivalent of the usual Mudcat drivel.

Ah yes GUEST, but YOU knew where to find it ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 11:24 PM

For those who prefer musical content there is this. Keep clinking to play "Bitch slap a rock star".

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 11:12 PM

After the shit that people have been talking on each other around this place, you people are worried about someone using the term "bitch slap"? Please.

This is about the rough equivalent of the usual Mudcat drivel. The object is to win, and in order to win, you must conform. Just like Mudcat.

I'm sure most of you will be champs at this baby in no time.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: The Shambles
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 08:10 PM

This is the only unmoderated forum I come to, hence the frustration level of those of us who know what we're missing here, when things get more puerile than usual.

If this person considers this now to be an unmoderated forum and no one (especially our unknown numbers of uknown volunteer moderators) posts to corrects them - does it mean that it now is an unmoderated forum?

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: pdq
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 07:39 PM

If we go with the thread title and the past eight or so posts, we can safely say:
      
"What to do about obnoxious MC members? Bitchslap 'em, eh?"

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,fred miller
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 05:27 PM

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Amos
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 04:56 PM

Well, I guess it is emerging from different circles, and the definition you grasp instinctively depends on the circles you travel in. I for example, obviously associate with angry and frustrated women; SRS seems to come from a world of moronically funny heros; while WYSIWYG comes from a world of penis-wielding pimps. Ya pays yer money and ya takes yer choice!

A

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 04:56 PM

"Bitch-slap" is becoming a frequently-heard expression on TV, etc., but if it does mean what I think it means-- it would be yet another case of white/mainstream media "borrowing" from the black community without knowing what they're doing. Then I say the joke is on them for not having a clue how vulgar they're being! :~)

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Peace
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 04:54 PM

bitchslap: From the stereotype of a pimp's demeaning and abusive treatment of his prostitutes, whom he refers to as his bitches. Those who use the term typically see themselves as being superior and as being in a situation that calls for them to mete out harsh, abrupt, and abusive treatment for what they perceive as stupid or disrespectful behavior--or simply when they think such treatment is needed to remind someone of her inferior status.

Example: You talk back to me one more time, and I'll bitchslap you.

The above is from SlangSite.com

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 04:52 PM

I haven't heard the term "bitch slap" but I have used "dope slap"--referring to what Moe used to use on Larry and Curly. Or Oliver Hardy used to do to Stan Laurel (though Hardy was gentler about it than Moe was).

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 04:49 PM

That's funny, I thought it was a euphemism for "d**k-slap," which I understood to denote a female cheek stricken by an item of male anatomy. I guess it would translate (?!?!?!?!?) to labeling her a bitch. "His" bitch-- discipline a pimp would deliver to one of "his" girls.

Correct me if I'm wrong. :~) But watch how you do it. :~)

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Pogo
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 04:45 PM

Send 'em to the Steel Cage Match thread and let 'em fight it out. I need more ratings :OI

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Amos
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 04:41 PM

It is a common slang term -- it describes the wrath of infuriated females being taken out on other females. At least I think that is what it implies -- the kind of caterwauling screaming and slapping that only two women over the edge can manufacture....


A

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Peace
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 04:15 PM

GUEST:

The originator of the thread has used it a few times. Disgusting, actually.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 04:10 PM

Ah, Amos....always the voice of reason


;-D

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Amos
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 04:04 PM

100. Thanks. Neener neener.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 04:03 PM

Someone on here has used that term in the past a few times....bitch slap...

I remembered it because it is so horrible and graphic. Maybe it is a common term?

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 03:28 PM

Since this thread appears to be the first time anyone has posted as "GUEST,Treehouse", and there seems to be no member who has the Mudcat name Treehouse, it may be a little naive to take this person at face value.

In other words, this thread could well be a slightly more subtle than usual exercise in stirring. "Shooting fish in a barrel" is the term sometimes used.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Peace
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 03:16 PM

"I'm getting a tremendous amount of satisfaction bitch slapping those of you who so blood [sic] well deserve it"

Bitch slapping, a term with which I am not familiar, connotes that the user may really enjoy abusing physical strength--likely with women, and certainly with people of a more diminuitive stature. You must be lots of fun to hand around with. Usually I have to pay for that treatment.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: CarolC
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 03:07 PM

101

Thank you very much.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: CarolC
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 03:06 PM

Delicious irony?

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 02:26 PM

Where are you el Ted?
Better hurry!

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,curmudgeon
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 02:15 PM

Amen. Guest. I do think you've summed it up neaatly.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 01:25 PM

Also, some of us have other things to do than spend all our time on the internet. Like jobs, families, friends, music and non-music passions and interests--lives in other words. It really isn't my problem that so many people here don't have them, and/or are so addicted to this particular internet fix they become consumed by it.

Speaking of delicious irony, has anyone else noticed that the most obnoxious poster here, and the one writing the longest posts, is the initiator of this thread, who goes on about how she has better things to do than be here?

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,Treehouse
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 01:14 PM

"Those last two GUESTs were me - inadvertently nameless."

Oh, the delicious irony...

McGrath, here's the thing. Some of us have wider interests than just folk music, and so we participate in other online forums related to those interests. But it doesn't mean I want the eejits from here following me to them.

This is the only unmoderated forum I come to, hence the frustration level of those of us who know what we're missing here, when things get more puerile than usual.

My tolerance for this sight is getting used up, as is others. If you want to know who the others are who might be seriously considering not using this forum anymore, look to who HASN'T been posting much who used to post frequently. That isn't the people in this thread. Even though Amos agrees with me, I don't think Amos has any alternatives to Mudcat (unless I've been misreading his posts). Some of us do. Also, some of us have other things to do than spend all our time on the internet. Like jobs, families, friends, music and non-music passions and interests--lives in other words. It really isn't my problem that so many people here don't have them, and/or are so addicted to this particular internet fix they become consumed by it.

It's always a question of balance, having productive, having positive alternatives to this forum for our internet entertainment and intersts, and many healthy alternatives to sitting on one's ass and getting all worked up and aggravated all day (and night too for a lot of you apparently) by acting like/reacting to stupid morons.

Or are you saying that we should all just shut up, never complain about all the jerks who frequent this place, and take their abuse?

Well, if that works for you, more power to you. But it doesn't work for me. I see no reason to just shut up and take the abuse the morons are dishing out.

Yes, I do have the option of leaving this forum. I use it regularly. Maybe if more members used that option, this place wouldn't suffer so severely from domination by the socially challenged.

Just sign me--

Another Mudcat Veteran for Forum Truth.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 12:52 PM

Those last two GUESTs were me - inadvertently nameless.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 12:26 PM

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 12:26 PM

"leaving these parts for greener online forum pastures "

I've never seen one yet. If you've got some which match that description, share the URLs, Treehouse - not that I have any wish to desert the Mudcat, but for the times when it's down.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,Treehouse
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 11:17 AM

I don't expect the stupid threads to disappear. I also don't expect stupid, dull witted posters to disappear. I accept that the stupid and dull witted rule this forum, as is demonstrated by the sheer numbers of their posts, and their dogged determiniation to remain in power here.

But that isn't all there has ever been at Mudcat, nor is it all that this forum could be, if anyone decided to police themselves, and control their "on a whim" posting behavior.

Let's just be very clear about that.

I could care less about the so-called humorous threads. Not my brand of humor, although I do accept that it is just that sort of humor which dominates the forum. It is quite rare to see any decent, intelligent humor around here, just like in the 3D world.

I'm fed up with rude and obnoxious members (and we all know very well who they are), interrupting decent conversations with pathetic attempts to be funny and get noticed by the people they obviously want to get noticed by--but don't because the people they want attention from generally don't post to the moronic threads.

It is that simple. I am complaining about rude and obnoxious members who keep interrputing otherwise decent conversations, just to get attention. I understand they, like all immature adults who engage in these sorts of behaviors to get people to notice them, interrupt these conversations in such grossly inappropriate ways because: 1) they don't have the required social skills to get noticed any other ways, and; 2) they are out of their league in terms of knowing the subject matter being discussed.

Yes, I ignore them when they do it. I only started this thread, because so many other members whom I consider to be well mannered, good natured, and to have a decent, intelligent sense of humor, are bitching about how pathetic the forum has been of late too.

They will likely remain polite (and be leaving these parts for greener online forum pastures soon because of the insistence of everyone here that this is the way Mudcat MUST be) because they are invested in relationships with a few people here. I, on the other hand, believe that more can be gained by making my displeasure known, than by being polite. Which is purely a style difference, because we are in agreement the way the forum has been going this summer, has made for a piss poor Mudcat experience for us.

But not, of course, for the morons. They have been truly enjoying themselves here of late. There is no doubt about that, just like there is no doubt in my mind that complaining about the moronic Mudcat majority here in the forum with any expectation that it will change anyone's behavior, would be as productive as shouting into a hurricane.

That doesn't change the fact that I'm getting a tremendous amount of satisfaction bitch slapping those of you who so blood well deserve it, though.

Thanks for your cooperation.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Peace
Date: 20 Aug 04 - 09:53 PM

artin, very good idea.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Once Famous
Date: 20 Aug 04 - 09:45 PM

ilk and cookies, anyone?

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Peace
Date: 20 Aug 04 - 09:27 PM

Well, Little Hawk, you jus' keep yer hands off my ilk. Don't tolerate none of that 'round here.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Aug 04 - 09:19 PM

My ilk is my own damned business, Fred. :-) I am going to hex you by doing a Shatnerization ceremony in front of my life-size idol of Big Bill that stands in the inner sanctum, surrounded by his many books, recordings, and memorabilia. I am going to send powerful vibes your way, ramped up by the Spirit of Shatner. You...will soon find yourself speaking...with dramatic pauses...coupled by significant glances at the camera (whether it's there or not). You...will have to eke out a living doing...corny TV ads and convention appearances. It's...not all bad, though...most women will find you...wellnigh irresistible!

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,Fred Miller
Date: 20 Aug 04 - 08:28 PM

I've never seen anybody complain about Little Hawk or his ilk before. This is cool. Because I've recently decided to dislike him too, partly out of a real jealousy I'm trying to pass off as a mock-jealousy (clever ruse, eh?) partly just to be different.
   I don't support nannying things around, there are other places that do that, though. Try them, seriously. It sounds like I'm being a smart-ass, but seriously, look around.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Aug 04 - 06:24 PM

I love it. Whoever the hell Treehouse is, she has given me:

1. a Buncha good laughs

2. A question. If she is a member, why does she skulk in the shadows under a Guest name while protesting the present state of the forum? Or has she lost her cookie somehow? SINSULL, what's your theory on that?

Treehouse, I have been listening to and thoroughly enjoying folk music ever since the late 50's. The first folk musicians I really focused on were The Weavers, on Vanguard recordings.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 20 Aug 04 - 06:09 PM

The revolution starts from within. I will try to be less obnoxious - its not going to be easy though.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Once Famous
Date: 20 Aug 04 - 06:05 PM

Devilmaster:

You pounded the nail in with one hit from the hammer.

The Internet is like the wild west. The strong survive, the ones with no intestinal fortitude bit the dust.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Devilmaster
Date: 20 Aug 04 - 05:59 PM

It always seems, to me anyways, that threads like this one come up every 6 months or so.

Get over it people. Its the internet. It is what it is.

The internet gives anyone the chance to publish their personal views whether or not the masses agree with it. It has completely changed how we live in this world, and will continue to change it for years to come.

Do a few google searches on stuff that you really hate. You'll find webpages on it I'm sure. Type white supremacist into a google search. I'm sure you'll find some moron who has a webpage saying that Hitler was mis-understood and that the holocaust did not happen. There are webpages that say if you don't believe in their deity, you'll go straight to hell, do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars.

Now those are extreme examples. Mudcat has those threads which people like Tree complain about. Honestly, this website has evolved over the years. But at the same time, how would you control those types of threads?

Since Treehouse apparently is so sick of the state of this place that he/she posts as a guest, (a bit ironic, imo) it seems like Tree is just posting his/her final posts here. So long buddy. I always get a laugh at the people who say 'this forum isn't what I want to see, so I'm typing my last post now, and I'm saying i'm leaving!'. Effin Waaahhh. People who think they're above everyone else and that their opinion is more valid than everyone else. Got news for ya. There is only one opinion above everyone else's opinion here. There is only one person that is above Mudcat. And since Max owns the puters that holds all these viewpoints, and he owns the webname, he is the only one whose opinion truly matters. Cause if he gets sick of it he just pulls the plug. Everyone will find a new site to play at.

So in the end, mudcat is what it is. If that is not what you want or like, there is one thing you can do. Hit that button labelled on/off or power.

Steve

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,Russ
Date: 20 Aug 04 - 05:20 PM

OOPS! Ignore the preceding message.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: GUEST,Russ
Date: 20 Aug 04 - 05:20 PM

Ignore them.

Subject: RE: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 20 Aug 04 - 04:57 PM

LOL!