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Pentangle's House Carpenter

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HOUSE CARPENTER
THE DEMON LOVER
THE HOUSE CARPENTER (II)


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Subject: RE: Pentangle's House Carpenter
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Oct 20 - 10:43 PM

I love this recording by Jean Ritchie: https://youtu.be/922vMnLfrxw


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Subject: RE: Pentangle's House Carpenter
From: keberoxu
Date: 19 Oct 20 - 07:02 PM

I have not heard Jean Ritchie's House Carpenter,
but I did listen to Jacqui McShea and the Pentangle's version.
And I recall how carefully the lyrics were enunciated,
clearly understandable even in one listen.
It doesn't surprise me if those were Jean Ritchie's lyrics.


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Subject: RE: Pentangle's House Carpenter
From: Tim Chesterton
Date: 19 Oct 20 - 12:00 AM

Reading through this very old thread I noticed the question of where Pentangle got their lyrics for House Carpenter. The answer is that they got them, almost word for word, from Jean Ritchie.


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Subject: RE: Pentangle's House Carpenter
From: GUEST,Nightchill
Date: 04 Apr 05 - 03:51 AM

There is a good version complete with very "haunting" music on a double compliation CD by Mr Fox. A group "famous" as a one hit wonder in the UK with a single of the same name.


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Subject: RE: Pentangle's House Carpenter
From: GUEST,van lingle
Date: 03 Apr 05 - 10:27 AM

That was me at 9:32 a.m.


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Subject: RE: Pentangle's House Carpenter
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Apr 05 - 09:32 AM

I love that version except for Jacqui McShee's singing. At the time she seems to have adopted some of the vocal mannerisms of sixties pop singers which didn't suit a lot of the material that she sang with Pentangle. She sang much better with the John Renbourn Group later on. Just my 2 cents.vl

(Joan Baez did a version on her first (or second) album on Vanguard that still gives me chills.)


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Subject: RE: Pentangle's House Carpenter
From: GUEST,Allen
Date: 03 Apr 05 - 03:00 AM

I must confess that as beautiful as their version is, I preffer the Sweeney's Men one....

Anyway, I've kept looking and think I found one that's close:

http://www.smsu.edu/folksong/maxhunter/0204/index.html


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Subject: RE: Pentangle's House Carpenter
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 01 Apr 05 - 10:40 PM

i must have first heard Pentangle's House Carpenter

round some small town drug dealing old hippys piss stinking
flea infested squat c.1976 when i was 17..

[and playing in a teenage proto-punk band]

been one of my favourite tracks ever since..

.. actually.. pentangle is probably my favourite band right now


Handsome Family do a great version of House Carpenter live


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Subject: RE: Pentangle's House Carpenter
From: GUEST,Malcolm
Date: 01 Apr 05 - 07:22 PM

Many, many American versions of that song. Pentangle didn't bother to say where they they got their songs from, generally, but there's a decent chance of identifying it with patience. They probably learned it off a record made by an American revival performer, though (people like Caroline Hester), which might slow things down; and they did sometimes re-write a bit.


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Subject: RE: Pentangle's House Carpenter
From: GUEST,Jiggers
Date: 01 Apr 05 - 03:36 PM

Hi,

you can look here :-

http://www.folk-network.com/

Go to Internet Resources in the left panel and then select Online Books, then click on Anthology of American Folk Music, Pages 24 and 25 have The House Carpenter as collected by Cecil Sharpe.

Here are the URLs for the pages,

http://towerofbabel.com/sections/music/troubadours/anthology/anthologypage24.jpg

http://towerofbabel.com/sections/music/troubadours/anthology/anthologypage25.jpg


Hope this helps,

Jiggers


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Subject: Pentangle's House Carpenter
From: GUEST,Allen
Date: 01 Apr 05 - 03:44 AM

I've been listening to Pentangle's House Carpenter (gorgeous pairing of banjo and sitar, sounds so exotic) the lyrics I find aren't that hot. Did they rewrite it?


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