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BS: For Real. I quit

GUEST,Heavy Sigh 15 Jun 05 - 12:26 PM
CarolC 15 Jun 05 - 12:15 PM
Clinton Hammond 15 Jun 05 - 11:59 AM
CarolC 15 Jun 05 - 11:50 AM
JennyO 15 Jun 05 - 11:47 AM
GUEST,Mr Red 15 Jun 05 - 11:20 AM
GUEST 15 Jun 05 - 11:16 AM
Stilly River Sage 15 Jun 05 - 08:34 AM
Donuel 15 Jun 05 - 07:39 AM
JennyO 15 Jun 05 - 07:38 AM
John MacKenzie 15 Jun 05 - 07:34 AM
Wolfgang 15 Jun 05 - 07:08 AM
Paco Rabanne 15 Jun 05 - 06:59 AM
gnu 15 Jun 05 - 06:56 AM
JennyO 15 Jun 05 - 06:36 AM
John MacKenzie 15 Jun 05 - 06:33 AM
Paco Rabanne 15 Jun 05 - 04:12 AM

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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: GUEST,Heavy Sigh
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 12:26 PM

The song is ended,
But the malady lingers on........


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: CarolC
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 12:15 PM

That's pretty rich coming from the whine and suck KING of the Mudcat, Clinton Hammond.


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 11:59 AM

Could you whine and suck ANY more CarolC???

Sack up a little, would ya...


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: CarolC
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 11:50 AM

On the subject of this other slander (boldface lie) against me by Joe Offer...

And then when the trolls attack, they squeal like a stuck pig. Jack does it, CarolC does it, Ron Davies does it, and so does dianavan - and many others.

I have only ever requested TWO attacks against me be deleted (in five years of posting to the Mudcat). I did so after Joe announced his policy of 100 percent review of "Martin Gibson's" posts. On both occassions, I did it for one reason, and one reason only... to find out if the 100 percent review was going to appy to "Martin's" personal attacks against me.

Joe Offer, in posting this accusation to the open forum has breached an important bit of Mudcat ettiquette, because in doing so, he has discussed the contents of Personal Messages and private e-mails in the open forum (and he gave the names of the people whose messages he was discussing). The only way to refute his accusations is to post the exact contents of one of the PMs I sent him in order to request deletion of a personal attack. This is the kind of language Joe has described as "squeal(ing) like a stuck pig"...

This is the first of the two, sent on 19 Apr 2005 01:32 PM:

Hi Joe,

I respectfully request that this post of Martin Gibson's be deleted. Or at least the parts of it that refer to me...

http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=80337&messages=99&page=1&desc=yes#1465466

    Here's a link to that message, #1465466 (click). I can't figure out how it insults anybody.
    And the complaints I've heard in this thread about my failure to delete that message, sure sound to me like the squeal of a stuck pig.
    -Joe Offer-

Later....
    Well, it appears that the crash did change the message numbers, so it's possible that message #146566 originally referred to a message from Martin Gibson. Whatever the case, it's unlikely that I would have any reason to refuse to delete a message if it was indeed offensive. I deleted dozens of Martin's messages. Why would I refuse or intentionally neglect to delete that one in particular? I have to say that I don't remember Carol's request at all.
    -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: JennyO
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 11:47 AM

Donuel I'm confused as hell now, it doesn't take much. I thought you said little hawk was marty boy?

Yes, I heard that from what people were saying on the Annexe. Did you really say that, Donuel?


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: GUEST,Mr Red
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 11:20 AM

see - MG quits and the world ends (for a day or so)


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 11:16 AM

Donuel I'm confused as hell now, it doesn't take much. I thought you said little hawk was marty boy?


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 08:34 AM

Interesting, Don. I haven't posted to this thread before, not wanting to tempt fate.

If this past months/year was a ruse, it was a joke that had a life of it's own. The stridency with which some of the insults came through were such that whether real or play-acting, the voice behind them was unhealthy. The schoolyard bully in hyperspace.

I once asked MG why he bothered, and he responded back (PM) that it was all a joke, and a way to stir people up. But who would have the time or interest in such a sustained experiment?

An author I know of once created a persona on a discussion list and kept it going for several months before confessing who he was. There was some alter ego stuff going on, but there was also a chance to offensively yank people's chains without accountablity. He could write it and think "this isn't really me," when of course it was exactly he who was writing that stuff. The alter ego has been quoted in essays since then (this is all American Indian literature stuff, so I won't go into more details or I'd bore the thread stiff). Those posts still come back to bite the original author on occasion, but in the way of computers, unless they were printed out at the time they're probably gone by now.

We can keep our eyes open for a thesis or dissertation by some warped academic in which he describes and analyzes anti-social behavior as forced upon an open society. If it was an experiment, it was in extremely poor taste, and I hope his committee pans the work.

Beyond the above conjecture, I'm glad to see that the individual who called himself "Martin Gibson" is gone, because he was extremely insulting to several of my loved ones. I don't, however, trust that he will stay away. If/when he returns, the form he chooses may be different, but those leopard's spots don't change.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 07:39 AM

since he is no longer here is a copy of his last PM to me.

................

Hey you got a pm!

A couple of comments on:

"If PM's are the standard currency of proof of friendship or support I too would be bankcrupt of shared opinion.

There is a practice one could call reverse trollism. I too practiced it many years ago.   You take the opposite position to your own and use the rhetoric to exagerratingly discredit that point of view.

It gets old fast but it is fun in an immature teen age way. Be warned that the current troll in residence is neither conservative or a Jew. "

* I am having more fun than a lot here. Sometimes it is so damn funny!
* You are right. I am not hardly what you would call a conservative.
* You are wrong. I am a practicing reform Jew and about the only thing I do take seriously here is some of the music threads and the anti-semites here.

Hey, you're doing better in the old analyze Martin game than some others. Now, take it easy and lighten up. It's only a BS section in a stupid web forum.

ps. If you respond nicely, you WILL join the ranks of the hundreds just like it. Honestly!

take care.


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: JennyO
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 07:38 AM

Oh, Ted - sorry. I'm afraid the tongue in cheek humour escaped me. All I can say is that it's been a long day (it's night time here in Oz).

I guess Shambles WOULD have a field day - heh heh. But maybe we should let sleeping Shambles lie. Shhhh.

I remember some of the toilet humour. I posted something about hearing the flush of a distant toilet - er, or was it the distant sound of a toilet flushing, or something like that.

And someone else said something about plumbing the depths.

Jenny (flushed with embarrassment)


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 07:34 AM

Think Pavlov and dogs Wolfgang.
Giok {Ring that bell}


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Wolfgang
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 07:08 AM

Whats the rest of Mudcat going to do for a "whippin boy" now? (Akenaton)

So early in this thread a good prediction hid in a question.

One cannot but hope this person is gone for good. I cannot understand how anyone can lament his goodbye. Even if I were a conservative as mg claimed to be I would have been embarrassed by the style. I would have blocked his access long ago.

On the other hand, I've never understood the 'take-a-stand' position when it became repetitive. Once or twice it is understandable, but quickly mg has made clear he would never react in a decent way to that approach. Good Mudcatters have lowered sometimes their style and argumentation for a fight with mg. Even if you can win a fight of words with mg in his style would you really want to win such a fight?

The let's-play-with-Martin game has become boring (perhaps even for him). There has been more than one political thread in which mg has been 'invoked' ("soon, Martin will come and tell us..."etc.) before even showing up for the first time. There have been threads in which mg only needed to post a link with a few harmless words and soon some reacted to this link as if mg had already insulted them in that very thread. A reactive anticipation of future abuse which of course invariably did come.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 06:59 AM

Jenny O,
       Keep your hair on!! My post was tongue in cheek in an attempt to raise Shambles from his slumber!! Some of you lot really need to chill out!


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: gnu
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 06:56 AM

All the gutter humour about 'plumbing' is gone. Flushed away. Who said what about it being an anal tax return? I recall brucie's thrifty idea of using both sides of the toilet paper. There were a number of others, but they're greywater under the bridge now.


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: JennyO
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 06:36 AM

Ted, if you read what Max has said, he has managed to get Mudcat almost back to normal, so that most of the missing 6 months of posts have been retrieved, but a day or two has been lost. He still needs to get a few bugs out, but right now, he is catching up on some well-deserved sleep.

Give the guy a break! I think we are very lucky to have got this much back, considering the problem. I'm happy anyway. Whatever we missed on this thread, maybe it's just as well, and if anything is important enough, people can always post again.

Personally, I think the break could be a blessing in disguise, as far as this thread is concerned. It might have given some people a chance to cool down a bit. One can always hope anyway.

Jenny


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 06:33 AM

And better for it too methinks, perhaps better if it had stayed amongst the MIA list.
G..


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 04:12 AM

Is it me, or has this thread been severely edited?


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