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BS: For Real. I quit

Alba 20 Jun 05 - 10:01 AM
Wesley S 20 Jun 05 - 09:51 AM
Big Mick 20 Jun 05 - 09:46 AM
Richard Bridge 20 Jun 05 - 09:42 AM
Big Mick 20 Jun 05 - 09:32 AM
Alba 20 Jun 05 - 09:11 AM
Big Mick 20 Jun 05 - 08:58 AM
Alba 20 Jun 05 - 08:37 AM
bobad 20 Jun 05 - 08:32 AM
Big Mick 20 Jun 05 - 08:26 AM
Alba 20 Jun 05 - 08:08 AM
Big Mick 20 Jun 05 - 07:36 AM
Alba 20 Jun 05 - 07:35 AM
Big Mick 20 Jun 05 - 07:29 AM
Big Al Whittle 20 Jun 05 - 07:18 AM
CarolC 20 Jun 05 - 06:37 AM
Peace 20 Jun 05 - 04:27 AM
Big Al Whittle 20 Jun 05 - 04:25 AM
Dave the Gnome 20 Jun 05 - 03:58 AM
Peace 20 Jun 05 - 01:12 AM
susu 20 Jun 05 - 12:55 AM
GUEST,Wesley S 19 Jun 05 - 08:59 PM
GUEST 19 Jun 05 - 08:08 PM
CarolC 19 Jun 05 - 07:16 PM
Clinton Hammond 19 Jun 05 - 07:08 PM
Clinton Hammond 19 Jun 05 - 07:08 PM
CarolC 19 Jun 05 - 07:05 PM
CarolC 19 Jun 05 - 06:46 PM
Clinton Hammond 19 Jun 05 - 06:43 PM
Dave the Gnome 19 Jun 05 - 06:42 PM
GUEST 19 Jun 05 - 06:31 PM
Peace 19 Jun 05 - 06:16 PM
CarolC 19 Jun 05 - 06:10 PM
Clinton Hammond 19 Jun 05 - 04:54 PM
CarolC 19 Jun 05 - 04:22 PM
Clinton Hammond 19 Jun 05 - 04:14 PM
JohnInKansas 19 Jun 05 - 03:08 PM
GUEST 19 Jun 05 - 03:04 PM
Big Mick 19 Jun 05 - 01:50 PM
Peace 19 Jun 05 - 01:39 PM
GUEST,Martin Gibson 19 Jun 05 - 01:31 PM
GUEST,Martin Gibson 19 Jun 05 - 12:32 PM
bobad 19 Jun 05 - 11:56 AM
CarolC 19 Jun 05 - 11:38 AM
Stilly River Sage 19 Jun 05 - 12:57 AM
susu 19 Jun 05 - 12:07 AM
annamill 18 Jun 05 - 02:25 PM
robomatic 17 Jun 05 - 10:38 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Alba
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 10:01 AM

Dermatoglyphics   




Your mocking my technical difficulties Mick dear aren't you, you are finding some sick pleasure in this aren't you......pay back is not pleasant coming at you from a Glasgow Girl...continue at your own peril Sir:>)


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Wesley S
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 09:51 AM

My Random House dictonary actually has "ZZZ" for it's last word. It says it represent the sound of a person snoring.


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Big Mick
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 09:46 AM

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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 09:42 AM

According to my concise Oxford, the last word is "zymurgy" - a branch of applied chemistry dealing with the use of fermentation in brewing. How suitable.


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Big Mick
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 09:32 AM

WORD


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Alba
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 09:11 AM

Elephant







you really are pushing my Technical disadvantage button BM...getting fancy now eh! I have to up the 'WORD' anti...right then...:>)


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Big Mick
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 08:58 AM

WORD


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Alba
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 08:37 AM

MOOSE









BM your a show off I can't do those scrolly things...:>(


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: bobad
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 08:32 AM

BIRD


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Big Mick
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 08:26 AM

WORD


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Alba
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 08:08 AM

supercalafragilisticexpalidocious


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Big Mick
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 07:36 AM

word


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Alba
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 07:35 AM

Koala Bear,

You know there is a way to turn this Thread into Mudcat funds.
We could all submit a date that the Thread will eventually end at the cost of say 2 dollars per person (adjust currency as required) then contribute those funds to Mudcat and whoever gets the date right will be rewarded by receiving a Mudcat Knighthood or Dameship for Life..lol or whatever the heck they call that stuff or a Mudcat teeshirt if there is enough money, which by the looks of the continuing intrest in this Thread there should be plenty!

10 days after he has gone....(and to play around with a Led Zepplin Album title)..'The smell remains the same'

A new dis ease has been discovered "Gibsonitis" a virus that gets under the skin and is sadly very catching it would seem.

LOVE to you all.
Jude


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Big Mick
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 07:29 AM

word


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 07:18 AM

kangaroo!


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: CarolC
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 06:37 AM

I think if you are going to get indignant on behalf of others, then at least help the newbies to understand you are being altruistic (that means unselfish in case you don't know what that means CarolC)


Ok, Susu. Here's a little tip for the newbies...

Before jumping in with sweeping condemnations about things that you are not familiar with the specifics of... take the time to find out. Don't assume.


Dave the Gnome...

;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Peace
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 04:27 AM

OK, wld.


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 04:25 AM

Can i have the last word?

Kangaroo!


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 03:58 AM

The point that isn't winning or losing, of course, Carol.

Try and keep up...

:D


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Peace
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 01:12 AM

Susu,

CarolC and I have had as many run-ins as you and I (but it took Carol and me two years to reach that number. IMO, she is a highly intelligent, caring and kind individual. I think in your own way you are too. It's time to bury the hetchet--but not in each other.

Bruce m


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: susu
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 12:55 AM

Okay, I have been called out, and rightly so, but let me say this...

Carol tends to come across to me as someone who sends invites to her pity party and then can't understand why no one RSVP's.

I think if you are going to get indignant on behalf of others, then at least help the newbies to understand you are being altruistic (that means unselfish in case you don't know what that means CarolC)

Now that being said, I didn't post for a couple of days because everytime I tried, my computer stated that "the page could not be displayed", so when I was finally able to post it I guess 3 days went by, I didn't realize there was a time limit on when you could respond to some elses post on here, guess I still have much to learn about 'Cat' etiquette.

I could sit here and tell everyone about all the tragedies I have had in MY life but I don't air that kind of stuff to prove a point. Suffice it to say that I have had MANY, some of which are too gruesome for you people to imagine. I try to take each experience and turn it into something positive. But I digress, I DO NOT think that it is okay for someone to make fun of people in the manner in which you discribed CarolC, and (not that you would believe it) my heart goes out to WS for his loss.

But hey it doesn't matter, according to some Hubby and I are not real anyway so who cares right? Susu


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: GUEST,Wesley S
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 08:59 PM

No - Clinton - I don't think that "Everything can be laughed at". I don't think the death of a five day old baby is funny. And since it was MY five day old son - Patrick Tate Smith - born on December 13th at five pounds 10 ounces- that was the subject of the joke I fail to see the humor in it. I find it interesting that you do.

So here's something you can laugh at. If I ever get the chance to meet Martin Gibson in person I will give him a poke in the nose and a broken finger on his left hand. And since you find all of this halarious I promise the same treatment for you too.

Now most of you reading this may think that I have just made a threat of bodily harm. I HAVE NOT. Only those of you with a highly developed sense of humor like Clinton will realize that I'm only talking about "Three Stooges" type slapstick. You know - the funny "HAHA" jokes when no one really gets hurt. The pie in the face type stuff. Clinton knows what I mean. Because Clinton knows that EVERYTHING is fodder for a joke.

Jeez - I'm laughing so hard I can hardly stand it. Clinton - I'll bet you are too. No offense intended - I didn't mean it. This has all been a big joke.


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 08:08 PM

The point is, Clinton, if you tell us what is causing you pain; we can then ridicule your suffering on the world-wide web. C'mon, be a big boy and tell us what it is.

If you won't tell us then it is obvious that you do not understand why so many were offended by Martin's comments. If its good enough for others, it should be good enough for you.


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: CarolC
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 07:16 PM

Oooohhh... CUT to the quick!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 07:08 PM

And most of us are already laughing at you


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 07:08 PM

You are

:-p


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: CarolC
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 07:05 PM

Why don't you tell us what the source of your pain is, Clintion, and we can all laugh at that for a while.


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: CarolC
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 06:46 PM

What point, Dave?

;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 06:43 PM

I do laugh at my own pain... One has to, otherwise it 'gets you'


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 06:42 PM

The point is not winning or losing, Dave.

Oh yes? Prove me wrong by not trying to win the point, Carol;-)

Cheers

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 06:31 PM

Clinton - It may be a cruel world but most of us rise above it. What has happened in your life that has left you so cold and imbittered? Your negativity is your own worst enemy. Only a saddist laughs at another's pain. Try laughing at your own pain.


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Peace
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 06:16 PM

I don't find the image of someone who has no legs or someone who is mentally disabled to be the substance for jokes.


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: CarolC
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 06:10 PM

We all have to take responsibility for our decisions and our actions (and inactions). I am willing to take responsibility for mine.


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 04:54 PM

It's a cruel world... Learn to live with it or find the door...

Your indignation on behalf of others is a joke


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: CarolC
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 04:22 PM

Nobody should be expected to be a perfect picture of emotional and mental health when they are under extreme stress. Not only is that expectation completely unrealistic, it is also cruel.


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 04:14 PM

"is not something people ought to be making fun of"

Everything can be laughed at, if you're mentally and emotionally healthy enough... and I mean everything...

If you can't laugh at it, you're taking it too seriously...

This thread for example is a laugh riot!


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 03:08 PM

In this thread, posts appear to be in chronological order after

519        el_punkoid_nouveau        13 Jun 05 - 08:26 AM        Page11


The first number is where the post appears now in the header list of posts.

The 20 immediately preceding that one sort to:

511        Jack the Sailor        12 Jun 05 - 08:12 PM        Page11
490        GUEST,Sleepless Dad        12 Jun 05 - 08:13 PM        Page10
491        Jack the Sailor        12 Jun 05 - 08:14 PM        Page10
492        brucie        12 Jun 05 - 08:21 PM        Page10
493        Jack the Sailor        12 Jun 05 - 08:23 PM        Page10
494        brucie        12 Jun 05 - 08:33 PM        Page10
495        gnu        12 Jun 05 - 08:40 PM        Page10
496        Jack the Sailor        12 Jun 05 - 08:46 PM        Page10
502        GUEST,...        12 Jun 05 - 08:53 PM        Page11
497        brucie        12 Jun 05 - 08:57 PM        Page10
487        gnu        12 Jun 05 - 09:06 PM        Page10
512        ClintonHammond        12 Jun 05 - 09:23 PM        Page11
513        Jack the Sailor        12 Jun 05 - 09:26 PM        Page11
503        Joe Offer        13 Jun 05 - 02:36 AM        Page11
515        Sttaw Legend        13 Jun 05 - 04:03 AM        Page11
516        flamenco ted        13 Jun 05 - 04:32 AM        Page11
517        John O'Lennaine        13 Jun 05 - 05:56 AM        Page11
504        GUEST,Mr Red        13 Jun 05 - 06:35 AM        Page11
518        gnu        13 Jun 05 - 07:22 AM        Page11
514        GUEST        13 Jun 05 - 07:35 AM        Page11

The amount of disorder prior to the above 20 posts is pretty much the same for all earlier posts.

Since the entire list is about 17 pages in Word, I won't post it all; but the first 20 posts of the thread might help for those who need to figure out how this all got started:

2        Martin Gibson        10 Jun 05 - 07:50 PM        Page01
6        Jerry Rasmussen        10 Jun 05 - 08:07 PM        Page01
7        Foolestroupe        10 Jun 05 - 08:11 PM        Page01
8        GUEST        10 Jun 05 - 08:17 PM        Page01
3        GUEST,Sleepless Dad        10 Jun 05 - 08:21 PM        Page01
9        sixtieschick        10 Jun 05 - 08:22 PM        Page01
4        DougR        10 Jun 05 - 08:24 PM        Page01
5        Bobert        10 Jun 05 - 08:28 PM        Page01
16        Little Hawk        10 Jun 05 - 08:43 PM        Page01
17        kendall        10 Jun 05 - 08:46 PM        Page01
18        Rapaire        10 Jun 05 - 08:55 PM        Page01
19        GUEST,Art Thieme        10 Jun 05 - 08:56 PM        Page01
20        GUEST        10 Jun 05 - 08:57 PM        Page01
21        Little Hawk        10 Jun 05 - 08:58 PM        Page01
22        Bill D        10 Jun 05 - 08:59 PM        Page01
26        GUEST,Wesley S        10 Jun 05 - 09:03 PM        Page01
27        Lepus Rex        10 Jun 05 - 09:14 PM        Page01
28        PoppaGator        10 Jun 05 - 09:30 PM        Page01
10        Little Hawk        10 Jun 05 - 09:31 PM        Page01
29        Bee-dubya-ell        10 Jun 05 - 09:39 PM        Page01


John


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 03:04 PM

Its obviously a joke.

Good to know that Big Mick will, in the future, tell us when someone is posing as a Mudcat member or even a guest for that matter.

Keep up the good work, Big Mick.

I always knew that "big brother" was watching over us.

Too bad he wasn't as diligent in regards to MG.


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Big Mick
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 01:50 PM

You would win, brucie. Neither of the last two posts were from Martin.

All the best,

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Peace
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 01:39 PM

I bet bucks to donuts that the above post was NOT written by Martin Gibson.


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 01:31 PM

I'm sorry about that last post, the devil made me do it.

Seriously folks, I have finally realized that I need help. I thought about a psychiatrist or counselling or a psychologist but decided it would be much wiser to convert to Christianity. Thats right, folks, I have become a Born Again Christian.

I hope you will find it in your hearts to forgive me.

I am sending the vast fortunes I have made from my WalMart stock to the PLO in hopes that I will find forgiveness in the eyes of the Lord. Never again will I engage in racist stereotypes. I am learning to listen to women and realize that they are not all bimbos. I would especially like Carol C. to forgive me so that we can move on in our lives.


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 12:32 PM

Hehehe


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: bobad
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 11:56 AM

Let it Be
The Beatles (Lennon/McCartney)

When I find myself in times of trouble
Mother Mary comes to me
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be.
And in my hour of darkness
She is standing right in front of me
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be.
Let it be, let it be.
Whisper words of wisdom, let it be.

And when the broken hearted people
Living in the world agree,
There will be an answer, let it be.
For though they may be parted there is
Still a chance that they will see
There will be an answer, let it be.
Let it be, let it be. Yeah
There will be an answer, let it be.

And when the night is cloudy,
There is still a light that shines on me,
Shine on until tomorrow, let it be.
I wake up to the sound of music
Mother Mary comes to me
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be.
Let it be, let it be.
There will be an answer, let it be.
Let it be, let it be,
Whisper words of wisdom, let it be


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: CarolC
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 11:38 AM

Maggie, shut up and mind your own business.

Susu, first of all, I would like to point out the fact that I STOPPED posting to this thread THREE DAYS ago. YOU are the one who brought it back to life.

Secondly, I was not talking about myself when I said what I did about what "MG" did to the person who experienced the death of a child.

Here's what happened. A Mudcatter, one for whom I have a tremendous amount of respect as a human being and as a good man said the following to "Martin Gibson"...

On December 18th of 2000 my wife and I held my 5 day old son in my arms while the nurses disconnected him from the life support "miracles" that kept him alive. And I felt no guilt.

Six weeks later I watched my Mother die of a brain tumor. I was relieved that she had effective paperwork in place so that the doctor and nurses wouldn't keep her alive beyond the hour that God called her home.

I pray you never have the same experiences. I really do pray for you Martin.

Because when that time comes you won't be looking for curse words. You'll find a dark quiet corner and try to be alone with your God and your soul and you'll pray - "Dear God - take my loved one now. Don't let them suffer another minute."

Trust me Martin - that's what you'll do.


"Martin's" response was, "Maybe you should have taken less drugs".

Another Mudcatter, a lifelong professional musician who is well loved by many, who has Multiple Sclerosis, is no longer able to do the thing he loves most... play music, and who is able to find some solace from all of this by talking about music here in the Mudct with like-minded people, was being taunted by "Martin Gibson", who was making fun of the fact that this Mudcatter's Multiple Sclerosis was preventing him from being able to play music. This, along with some other kinds of non-specific abuse.

There is a Mudcatter who uses a wheelchair because he does not have very good use of his legs due to polio when he was younger. This Mudcatter is a very capable person who has had many fine accomplishments in his life. "Martin Gibson" made fun of this Mudcatter many times by making references to his being incontinent (not able to urinate on his own, in case you don't know what "incontinent" means). Now this Mudcatter is not incontinent, but even if he were, being incontinent due to paralysis is not something people ought to be making fun of (or do you disagree?).

NOW... maybe you can just sit back and laugh along with "Martin Gibson", or maybe just not bother to do anything about it while others laugh. I chose not to do this. I chose to stand up to that kind of cruelty. I have no regrets.


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 12:57 AM

Susu, I haven't bothered to read your post, just to note that you were the one who walked back into this fireworks stand carring a lit match.

Let this stupid thread drop off of the page, will you! All of you! You're eating yourselves alive in here.


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: susu
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 12:07 AM

CarolC posted:

"You have never experienced the death of a child, nor do you have any obvious physical handicaps or long-term life threatening illnesses. In fact, from what I saw when I met you, you looked to be one very fortunate individual. So I wouldn't expect you do know how it feels to be in the shoes of the people he did hurt."

Good God WOMAN! WE HAVE ALL HAD TRAGEDIES IN OUR LIVES! That is life. So sad that you get offended so easily, especially if you KNOW that someone is trying to get a rise out of you. Maybe it is just your pathetic way of getting attention. As we say in Texas, BLESS YOUR HEART! Then you post...

"GUEST, bleachers, I don't think it's productive to automatically assume someone is trolling just because they have flamed me a few times. Maybe Clinton is genuinely angry with me. Maybe he's just an asshole. Who knows? But maybe he really is trolling. So I have to give him a chance to show me what he is really doing before I determine that he is trolling. And then once I have done that, I can adjust my posts accordingly. It's pretty obvious to me at this point that he is trolling (or maybe he's just an asshole). Either way, I have been ignoring him since my last post to him on 16 Jun 05 - 04:00 PM (that was yesterday afternoon)."

So let me get this straight...you can ignore Clinton but MG you can't?

As for this comment to Hubby...
"One of the few exceptions to that is my argument with Joe on this thread, which is none of your business. I have met Joe, more than once, in person, I have played music with him, and until this thread, I counted him as a friend."

Why did you feel it necessary to state, "which is none of your business" do you think that adds more weight to your comment? Do you think anyone really cares? Evidently you chose to make it his business.

So I suggest that you get some consistency and either always post to those who offend you or ignore them, but either way… QUIT WHINING! IT IS GETTING OLD! I don't care if you have been a member for several years, whereas Hubby and I have been here for a couple of months, BIG DEAL!

Susu

P.S. Say whatever vile thing you can come up with, I promise I won't get offended.


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: annamill
Date: 18 Jun 05 - 02:25 PM

Gee, now I miss Martin! From what I read here, I guess we really need him! Come back Martin, please!!

Love, Annamill (withtonguefirmlypressedincheek)


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: robomatic
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 10:38 PM

Gibson was not the source of 'a lot' of problems on the 'cat. He was an illustrator of those problems.

Originally, before some of his truly atrocious personal references, I took him to be a sort of self-elected Lenny Bruce. His vituperation lost some of their pungency due to the readiness and, excuse the word, liberal application of his blather on all and sundry. It was reminiscent of a National Lampoon column where the supposedly witty host is replaced with Tourette's sufferers.

MG was not entirely without logical thought. Indeed, he originated several threads with cogent quotations. However, he was often a fomenter and he wrote some mean nasty stuff directed at people he didn't agree with, and he interjected low-blow comments that were usually devoid of meaningful content that would advance the thread.

Nevertheless, the truth that has often been stated in those threads, and occasionally mentioned in this one, is that all one had to do was ignore him and the others of his ilk, and move on.

In other words, MG offered mudcatters the opportunity to prove they were better than him. An opportunity they did not take.

The incredible size of this thread seals the deal. I recently re-watched "Life of Brian" and nothing rings truer to this moment than the disciples sitting around a table debating their call to take action as Brian is being crucified. Nothing can get 'em away from the table as they debate the need to anser a call to action.

This thread shows that MG was not the problem, he was a mirror of the problem.


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: DougR
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 09:48 PM

Ron Davis: and your diagnosis of MG is based on your professional opinion?

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit
From: Ron Davies
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 09:07 PM

"Gibson" was the source of a lot of problems while he was here, and there were 3 items he was responsible for, which I have noted earlier and which are completely inexcusable. Any one of them should have caused his expulsion. There is now, as you should know--it's no mystery-- a strong difference of opinion on how to deal, not with trolls in general, but with a member who is in fact just a glorified troll. Again, I think everybody realizes the way to deal with trolls in general is to ignore them but a Mudcat member who turns out to be a troll needs different treatment, in my view. Your mileage may vary.

Jeri--

"Making excuses"--not likely. Try not to read into a post more than is there.

"Gibson" always had more than enough sparring partners,-- by no means just 'Catters--including during the month-plus that I was not one (not to mention the time before I started posting). By the way, I do not apologize in the least for defending myself (with sarcasm), nor does anybody else need to apologize for standing up to him. In fact I got kudos from some 'Catters for standing up to him, while not joining him in the gutter.

He should have been banned. We cannot ban anybody. Joe can.

It's also patently absurd to say that if "Gibson" were banned, everybody would be banned. In fact, it might have a salutary effect on some others (obviously not aimed at you). And it may be needed again.

As you should know, he was all over the 'Cat.

There is no reason to let sociopaths rule, even on the wild wild Net.


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