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Subject: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 16 Oct 05 - 10:52 PM Currently still officially known as Tropical Depression #24, it'll be Tropical Storm Wilma soon and Hurricane Wilma by Tuesday. And, once again, it looks like the northern Gulf Coast is gonna get it. (Forecast Track Here). And I'm supposed to be set up selling pottery at an outdoor art show in this lovely park on the shore of Mobile Bay this weekend. This is what the pier at the same park looked like after Katrina got through with it. That's about the same as it looked last year after Ivan. Are there still any of those decommissioned missile silos in Kansas and Nebraska for sale? |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: Stilly River Sage Date: 16 Oct 05 - 11:09 PM BWL, you seem to be snakebit! Come visit us in Texas for a while. If you get lonesome for disaster we can always find you a flooded underpass to drive into next time we get a heavy rain. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: artbrooks Date: 16 Oct 05 - 11:17 PM My folks have a house for sale in Navarre. |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: Bunnahabhain Date: 17 Oct 05 - 04:40 AM Come here to Scotland. We don't get Hurricanes*, or Tornados*, or earthquakes*, or floods. We do have the Prescott, a natural disaster of Biblical proportions, but it can't last many more years... * Well, very infrequent, mild events |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 17 Oct 05 - 04:56 AM We don't have WILMA in Australia, but we do have Johhny Howard... |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: Rapparee Date: 17 Oct 05 - 08:34 AM Idaho. No hurricanes, one tornado in the last 100 years, and around here we average 17 inches of precipitation per year (rain and snow and hail and sleet etc. combined). Beautiful mountains, and the winter temp rarely goes below 0 F. Deer, elk, cougar, bear, voles, butterflies, moose, bison, rattlesnakes, wolves, coyotes, but no alligators or copperheads or water moccasins -- and all that wildlife knows its place. Of course, this is a seismically and vulcanly active area.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 17 Oct 05 - 08:52 AM It gets rough here too. Sometimes the drizzle runs right down your neck! |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 17 Oct 05 - 08:55 AM Let's hope Fred doesn't get locked out again if Wilma gets mad. |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: open mike Date: 17 Oct 05 - 11:49 AM bam bam!! pebbles! hey, can someone explain how hurricanes get named? and by who(m)? does it alternate yearly with female and male names>? what happes after hurricane Zelda or Zeus? do they start again with "A" names in the same sex as the previous name, or do they switch gender? inquiring minds want to know.. |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: Bunnahabhain Date: 17 Oct 05 - 12:28 PM They're named male/female on alternate years. They do start again with A names when they get to the end of the alphabet. Exceptions: Hurricanes which cause a large amount of damage have their names removed from the list. There won't be another hurricane called Katrina. Certain letters are also missed out, if they don't have enough names. I'm not sure which letters though... |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: Stilly River Sage Date: 17 Oct 05 - 12:44 PM It's quite an elaborate process these days. And male and female are alternated every year, not alternate years (there was a hurricane Stan a couple of weeks ago that did to Central America and Mexico what Katrina did to the US). Here's the list. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: Don Firth Date: 17 Oct 05 - 03:29 PM Livin' in the Pacific Northwest, Seattle to be precise. We usually have one helluva windstorm sometime in November. Blows over a lot of trees, takes out power lines, etc. A few incidents like volcanoes, earthquakes (we're waiting for The Big One). Other than that, it's fairly tranquil here. I knew a woman named Wilma once. Hooo-WEEE!! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: jeffp Date: 17 Oct 05 - 04:10 PM After the annual supply of 21 names is exhausted (which Wilma has accomplished), they start with the Greek alphabet (Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, ...). |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 17 Oct 05 - 06:03 PM Now the forecast track shows it bouncing off the Yucatan and heading northeast toward the west coast of peninsular Florida (Tampa, St. Petersburg, Port Charlotte) instead of the northern Gulf coast. If that track holds it will probably make for a stronger storm at landfall since the waters up here in the northern Gulf have already started to cool a bit, but they're still quite warm down Tampa way. |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: Stilly River Sage Date: 17 Oct 05 - 07:05 PM Well I hope you knew what I meant and not what I said. . .I meant that to read that every year has alternating male and female names. And they trade them out in alternate years. Next year Wilma will be William. Don, I remember some hum-dinger Columbus Day storms in Everett. One year the corrugated metal porch cover came loose while I was at my piano teacher's home for a stormy-day lesson. She went out on the porch to see if she could fix it and came in with a badly bleeding head injury. Whooo! (She was okay). Then there are the January storms that come in off of the ocean (well, yeah, they ALL come in off the ocean. . .). Extra high tides hit with high winds--my dad always had to deal with high water at his house at the beach. I was out there working on his estate some years ago and went outside to find water bubbling out of the sewer cap. Though rainwater would normally drain out through that low spot, during those tides pushed higher by wind, Puget Sound came up through the pipe and surrounded the house. Made it a temporary island. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: Don Firth Date: 17 Oct 05 - 09:20 PM Yeah, Maggie, Columbus Day seems to be some sort of target date around here. Maybe it's all that Scandinavian energy in this area, ticked off that Columbus gets the credit and Leif Erikson doesn't have his own holiday. I'm visualizing the local. Whenever I was there, it was usually during pretty nice weather (generally the August Song Circle, barbeque and potluck), but that must have been pretty hairy! One storm I really remember happened on Thanksgiving Day maybe twenty or so years ago. Barbara's mother was out from Kansas and she wanted to take in the Thanksgiving morning church service at St. Mark's Cathedral on Capitol Hill, just a few blocks from where we live. It started out to be a fairly nice day, but suddenly the wind came up while the service was going on. It sounded like the roof of the cathedral was going to blow off. I frequently glanced apprehensively at the big stained glass windows as they actually flexed with the wind gusts. If any of them had let go, there probably would have been shards of glass blowing through the church (I kinda had that "atheist in a fox hole" feeling!). Of course, being on the edge of a hill overlooking Lake Union, St Mark's has weather a fair number of storms like that. In the afternoon after the service, we were due to go to the south end (White Center), where Barbara's cousin was doing the usual turkey and fixin's. By the time we started out, the wind was still blowing pretty good, but the wilder gusts had abated. We heard on the car radio that there were power outages everywhere and lots of people were stuck with tepid turkeys in their suddenly non-functional ovens. Lots of warnings about salmonella and such. Fortunately Bob's (Barbara's cousin) power was still on, so all went well there. It took several days for the utility companies to get everybody's power back on. I've actually slept through a couple of pretty good earthquakes. It's not that I'm all that blasé, though. I'm just a pretty sound sleeper. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: Stilly River Sage Date: 17 Oct 05 - 11:41 PM We used to live near White Center, a little north of there in West Seattle. Off of 35th on Othello, a couple of blocks from the water towers. I remember shopping at a store called "Chubby and Tubby." That was only matched when I moved to Texas and found a grocery store called "Piggly Wiggly." SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: Stilly River Sage Date: 18 Oct 05 - 09:59 AM Jamaica got soaked so far by Wilma. |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: Burke Date: 18 Oct 05 - 10:09 PM Every time I check the predictions, the path is predicted further south. Any more & it will be doubling back on itself. This would be really bad for Cuba. I think I recognize the Fairhope pier. I spent a lot of time just up the road in Daphne a lot as a child, visiting my grandparents. My uncle is still there & has yet to evacuate or wish he had. Wave as you drive by for me. |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: open mike Date: 19 Oct 05 - 01:14 AM in Nebraska we had stores called Hinky Dinky!! and Leif Erickson DOES have a day..it was last Sunday..October 9th |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: Stilly River Sage Date: 19 Oct 05 - 09:53 AM Links to more stories. Here's one example of this morning's headlines: Hurricane Wilma, with 175 mph wind, grows into most intense Atlantic storm ever October 19, 2005 SAN PEDRO SULA, Honduras - Gathering strength at a fierce pace, Hurricane Wilma swirled into the most intense Atlantic storm ever recorded Wednesday, a Category 5 monster packing 175 mph wind that forecasts warned was "extremely dangerous." Wilma spent most of its force at sea on the western Caribbean on Wednesday. It was on a curving course that would carry it on Friday through the narrow channel between Cuba and Mexico, where it threatened Cancun, and then on to Florida by the weekend. It was dumping rains, some heavy, on Central America and Mexico Wednesday morning and satellite photos showed the storm's arms covering much of Cuba. A hurricane watch was in effect for the east coast of Mexico's Yucatan peninsula, parts of Cuba and the Cayman Islands, and the National Hurricane Center in Miami warned of a "significant threat" to Florida by the weekend. At 8 a.m., the hurricane was centered about 550 kilometers (340 miles) southeast of Cozumel, Mexico. Maximum sustained wind was 280 kph (175 mph), forecasters said. It was expected to dump up to 63 centimeters (25 inches) of rain in mountainous areas of Cuba through Friday, and up to up to 38 centimeters (15 inches) in the Caymans and Jamaica through Thursday. Up to 30 centimeters (12 inches) was possible from Honduras through the Yucatan peninsula, the U.S. weather service said. Wilma's confirmed pressure readings Wednesday morning dropped to 882 millibars - the lowest minimum pressure ever measured in a hurricane in the Atlantic basin, according to the hurricane center. Lower pressure translates into higher wind speed. Forecasters said Wilma was stronger than the devastating Labor Day hurricane that hit the Florida Keys in 1935, the strongest Atlantic hurricane to make landfall on record. But Wilma wasn't expected to keep its record strength for long, as disruptive high-altitude winds in the Gulf of Mexico should weaken it before landfall, said Hugh Cobb, a meteorologist at the hurricane center. The strongest on record, based on the lowest pressure reading, had been Hurricane Gilbert in 1988, which registered an 888 millibar reading. |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: Ebbie Date: 19 Oct 05 - 10:54 AM Bummer. MEGA bummer. |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: GUEST,Chief Chaos Date: 19 Oct 05 - 11:54 AM Just remember amid all of the hurricanes, flooding, etc. that there's no such thing as global warming according to our Prez. |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 19 Oct 05 - 11:55 AM And current path predictions have it making landfall in southwest Florida around Port Charlotte. That's where Hurricane Charlie, the third costliest hurricane to ever hit the U.S. (Behind Katrina and Andrew) hit about 14 months ago. If recovery down there has moved at about the same pace that it has up here where Ivan hit, there are a lot of semi-completed repairs that will be extremely vulnerable. There are also thousands of people still living in FEMA-provided mobile homes which FEMA has only anchored to withstand Category 2 storms. Of course, it doesn't really matter how well mobile homes in big parks are anchored in major storms because once the shrapnel stars flying, breaking windows, piercing flimsy sheet-metal siding, and allowing strong winds inside the things, they just explode anyway adding even more shrapnel to the mix. That's why individual mobile homes on discrete lots can survive hurricanes while those mega-parks with hundreds of units get flattened. |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: Bunnahabhain Date: 19 Oct 05 - 03:38 PM Virtually every report I hear from US areas prone to Hurricanes has me thinking the same thing every time: "Why are you lot so totally incapable of building in brick or concrete? The Romans did it, so it's not exactly revolutionary technology, but clearly it's too much for you! Or do you secretly like living in things that are almost designed to be vunerable to the wind?" The rant does continue, but you get the idea. People making the same incredibly stupid mistakes repeatedly annoys me.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: Bill D Date: 19 Oct 05 - 04:10 PM they do it because they had some calm years and memories are short.....and because they don't think concrete is pretty enough. best info on hurricanes anywhere |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: Bunnahabhain Date: 20 Oct 05 - 01:08 PM This building click here is in a small group of islands that receive sustained winds of well over 100 miles an hour virtually every year. Tell me it's not pretty.... (( Sorry, I can only find tiny little pictures, all thes penny pintching scots refusing to pay for band-width!!!)) The ...radar... would continue to rotate in winds up to 80 miles per hour. In winds exceeding that speed the array would `weather-cock' and thereby survive winds up to 120 mph. However, the radar station holds the unofficial British record for wind speed, which in 1962 was recorded at 177 mph; just before the measuring equipment blew away. |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: Bunnahabhain Date: 20 Oct 05 - 07:11 PM Sorry, forgot to mention where it was, Shetland. |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: Bobert Date: 20 Oct 05 - 10:28 PM Well, well, well... Seems my mom, who winters in her condo in Venice, Fl., and who ahs just arrived fir her winter stay, is right in the path of this storm... I talked with her this afternoon and she is quite cool about it... Her neihbor, Jane, has survived all of them fir the last couple hundered years an so the two of them, with theie "hurricane survival" lists are busying themselves to ride this on eout as well... My mom is a nut!!!!! But a tough nut.... Been arrested more than me in civil rights demonstrations, has toured Russia without a guide takin' public tarnsportation and is, after all, my mom... But she ain't no spring chick no more and no matter what she and her old croney, Jane, think, they gonna bneed a prayer 'er two.... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: Stilly River Sage Date: 20 Oct 05 - 10:34 PM Consider good thoughts sent her way. |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: bobad Date: 20 Oct 05 - 10:35 PM She sounds like a remarkable lady Bobert. Hoping for the best. |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: Ebbie Date: 20 Oct 05 - 10:44 PM And good thoughts from me too, Bobert. (How are you?) What kind of home is it? Not a condo surely? Incidentally, it strikes me that her friend Jane is pretty tough too-having survived a "couple hundred years"? |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 20 Oct 05 - 11:18 PM "But she ain't no spring chick no more" Well, sounds like she's safe from the Chicken |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: Essex Girl Date: 21 Oct 05 - 08:56 AM Well, I'm staying in Davenport and we have been watching the hurricane reports for the past couple of days. We are heading for Tampa today, hopefully to avoid it as they do not expect it to hit until Monday. Otherwise we'll stay put here. |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: Bobert Date: 21 Oct 05 - 09:10 AM Yeah, it's a condo, Ebbie... It's a big ol' concrete three story buildin' with 'bout 50 units in it and she's live on the second floor... If the wind comes up, folks get away from the windows and hang out in the hall... Sounds as if her pal, Jane, knows 'bout these things and is as prepared as one can be... But I'm still concerned, none the less... |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: Stilly River Sage Date: 21 Oct 05 - 11:12 AM I heard a story on NPR this morning about a family who have a home in the projected path that is relatively stable in a hurricane environment (built on 12' stilts to survive the water). They are putting up their hurricane shutters today then loading the pets and the important stuff in the pickup (with a full gas tank) and travel trailer and are headed to north Florida to camp somewhere for a few days. Sounds like they have it worked out. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: WILMA!!!!!! From: bobad Date: 21 Oct 05 - 05:22 PM Latest is that Wilma's moving very slowly and won't make landfall in florida until Monday. |
