BS: Shotgun Cheney

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 18 Feb 06 - 01:25 PM

People were standing all around
Shotgun Cheney from out of town
And I I I I I'm the victim yea yea
Of a shotgun Cheney
Who gave that fool a gun
When there ain't no place to run
Shotgun Cheyney

There is this lawyer named Whittington
Stood near Dick Cheney, he had a gun
Wo wo wo Shotgun Cheney
He said your secrets I won't tell
And I ain't no fucking quail
Shotgun Cheney

G

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Feb 06 - 01:20 PM

JUST WHAT THE HOSPITAL NEEDED - THE VP OF THE US AT THE SAME TIME THEY WERE TREATING THE MAN. THAT WOULD BE A MAD HOUSE WHEN THAT CARAVAN PULLED UP.
CAN ANYONE HERE USE THEIR HEAD FOR ANYTHING BUT A PLACE FOR THEIR BALLCAP?

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Don Firth
Date: 18 Feb 06 - 01:14 PM

Hunters!!

Whittington's prognosis would have been a helluvalot better if they hadn't driven him to the hospital tied to the fender of the car!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Ron Davies
Date: 18 Feb 06 - 08:21 AM

I should have said "Proper Way to Hunt Quail: Don't Aim Low"   (Wall St Journal headline).

Cheney did aim low.

Actually, that fits him perfectly--he's always aimed low--especially with propaganda and other disinformation campaigns geared to hate and fear--which have worked like a charm.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 06:39 PM

gnu,

A sign of intellegence is, or sanity, is knowing to quit doing something if either you find out its wrong or you find out it ain't workin'...

I think you have more inate intellegence than Bush or anyone in his inner circle...

And, jus' fir laughs... Remember when Bush became president in 2000? Well, there were alot of folks saying stuff like, "Well, at least Cheney is in there to keep him straight..."

Thems were the good old days...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: gnu
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 06:01 PM

I would definitely agree with you Bobert, if I had shot him.

Certainly, I would have never left his side. I would have stayed at the hospital. I would still be there.

But, I am not the Vice President of the most viscious government on the face of the earth. There is barking and biting to be done. Not to mention baying at the moon. And, sniffing out those who would oppose freedom, at any cost, even freedom.

Yeah... before you say it... I endorsed the war. However, my reversal is based on fact... as was my endorsement, or, so I thought.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 05:40 PM

Just another thought: If I had shot a good friend by accident, I ceratinly wouldn't have stayed at the ranch for the dinner party and evening festivities...

I'd have been camped out at the hospital...

I think this speaks volumes about the character, or lack there of, of Dick Cheney...

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: gnu
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 05:32 PM

"Punt Gun". Yeeees by'. Many a story about a punt gun. Ten guage. I know a lad in Newfoundland who has one. It's a beast. Unreal... 36 inch barrel. Must weigh near fifteen pound!

8 Guage. Yup. I know of three. One in New Brunswick, the other two in New England. As near as I know, there are only three left in the world. BTW, the previous owner of the house I am in right now was the owner of the NB gun. His son now has it.

4 guage. No fuckin way. They stopped makin the 8 guage after it killed a bunch of people by knocking their eye balls out of their sockets. (Okay, I made that up. But so did whoever came up with a shoulder fired 4 guage. 4 guage? Why not use TNT attached to an arrow?)

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 04:14 PM

Tempest in a Scotch bottle maybe

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: GUEST,Cluin
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 04:05 PM

Oh, Cheney was drinking, Doug.

If it looks like a quail, walks like a quail and quacks like a quail... then turn around and shoot your buddy in the face.

Then hide from the cops for about 12 hours to clear your blood alcohol level.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Don Firth
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 04:00 PM

A heart attack is a tempest in a teapot?

And your medical degree came from. . . ?

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: DougR
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 03:46 PM

There must be a lot of disappointed posters to this thread. I just heard the "victim hunter" give a statement to the press and he looked and sounded pretty healthy to me.

Tempest in a teapot!

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Peace
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 03:32 PM

"Here in Maine we used to have the "duck guns." These were small cannons placed in the bow of our punts (no, that's not a pun but a flat-bottom rectangular row boat). You could mow down an entire flock with one of those or a small village if one was within range. I think they're now illegal to use for hunting but you can still collect them."

James Michener mentioned them in his historical novel, "Chesapeake".

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: frogprince
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 03:26 PM

I just got this glorious vision. A substantial number of like-minded people get together at a public appearance by Cheney (if he ever makes one of those) and burst into song, to the tune of "Bringing in the Sheaves":

    Killing things for fun, Killing things for fun;
    What could be more manly; Killing things for fun;
    Killing things for fun, Killing things for fun;
    Cheney gets his jollies, Killing things for fun.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: DougR
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 03:24 PM

Ebbie: no, my "peppering" did not require hospitalization. The pellets did not break the skin.

All of the conspiracy theories reflected in messages on this thread are a riot! Haven't had such a good laugh in days.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Charley Noble
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 03:16 PM

Don-

Getting lobbied?

Gnu-

With regard to the range of gauges for shotguns, do they still sell the 4 and 8-gauge elephant guns? It strikes me that they would be even more effective for shooting down quail, not to mention their potential for more collateral damage.

Here in Maine we used to have the "duck guns." These were small cannons placed in the bow of our punts (no, that's not a pun but a flat-bottom rectangular row boat). You could mow down an entire flock with one of those or a small village if one was within range. I think they're now illegal to use for hunting but you can still collect them.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Don Firth
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 02:17 PM

Question:    Who, exactly, is Katharine Armstrong, who hosted the hunting party on her spread, The Armstrong Ranch? Only one of the biggest lobbyists in Texas. The following is from a profile of her:

In 2004 she hung out her own lobby shingle and registered three lobby contracts, led by construction company Parsons Technology and Dannenbaum Engineering Corp., which is a major contractor for Texas water projects.

The list of registered lobbyists currently shows her to have four clients, but it is noised about that she also lobbies for a number of special interest groups. Most sources I found, if they mentioned their existence at all, were a bit circumspect about them. I wasn't able to track down any names, but I didn't have long to look. My wife and I are having guests this afternoon (not a shooting party) so I don't have time to follow up on this right now. Maybe somebody here could do some further checking.

Since she's a lobbyist, what the hell was Cheney doing there in the first place?

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: gnu
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 01:58 PM

Oh my goodness. I just read that link, Peace. I was sickened. That's just the kind of asshole that shouldn't be allowed to hunt.

Go ahead. Run with it. Just try to be creative, eh. You're welcome.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: kendall
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 01:56 PM

And, the worst of it is, they call them "sports"!

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Ebbie
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 01:30 PM

Good lord. I come from a family and a culture of hunting. Venison and elk and moose have all graced our table.

But--- I've been reading some of the gun talk articles and I am repulsed at the, not casual, but rather, oblivious mind set that accompanies the killing of birds that no one is gong to take home and cook. I'd bet anyone that most of those dead birds end up in a garbage can.

It's true that pheasant and quail and hummingbird, for gods' sake, have or had their turn on our 'upperclass' tables but I'll bet you that not one in a thousand ends up there now.

Why not skeet shoot? I did a lot of target practicing when I was young and I too like the coordination of eye and hand it takes but why must the target be alive?

As to the kind of "hunting" that Cheney was doing-pfffttttt!

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Peace
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 11:18 AM

Read here--scroll down, Ebbie.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Ebbie
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 10:52 AM

The word "peppered" in this connection bothers me. As far as I'm concerned, peppered is what you get when a spray of gravel hits you or when some other small objects hit you and bounce off you. Disproportionate to their mass, they sting.

Peppered is not what you are when the objects not only pierce your skin but penetrate the flesh deeply enough to get into the arteries. Surely those who, like DougR, say that they have been peppered, don't mean that they ended up in the hospital?

Incidentally, what is the range of the 28-gauge?

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Charley Noble
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 10:41 AM

"The Daily Show" wins hands down (whatever that means!) with this quip from Rob Corddry paraphrased in part by columnist Ellen Goodman:

The Vice President, he intoned, was following the best intelligence that said there were quail in the bush. Of course, the quail turned out to be the 78-year-old man, but "even knowing that today, Mr. Cheney insists - he still would have shot Mr. Whittington in the face."

So much for my morning coffee and the rest of that page!

However, I'm firmly convinced that Mr. Chaney was most upset when he realized what he had done:

Indeed, this old friend was no quail,
And his face turned a whiter shade of pale!

I bet this could be put to a tune...

Charley Ignoble

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: kendall
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 10:10 AM

Let's look at the facts for the hell of it:
Cheney Has a drinking problem. He has TWO convictions for OUI.
He admitted drinking before the hunt, after the farm owner stated that there was NO alcohol served that day.
With the help of the Secret Service, Cheney avoided the law, and never took a breath test.
Men and birds do not resemble each other. I've never seen a quail wearing blaze orange.
Of course it was an accident, and as Cheney stated, he was totally to blame.
You have to wonder about why it was handled that way, and it looks like another stonewall to me.
The combination of incompetence and secrecy in this whole administration troubles me deeply.
Oh well, maybe now they will shut up about Chapaquiddick.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 08:33 AM

I reserve the right to revise and amend my remarks.

It turns out according to the Fox TV & clear channel radio empire that there is no story about a hunting accident. Furthermore The Vice President's explanation was a POWERFUL POWERFUL one and satisfies the nation. IF anyone STILL harbors any ill will toward Cheney - they are just heartless fanatics who can not see there is a poor man with a deep hurt that will never be forgotten.

THE REAL STORY IS that the left wing media made a complete horses ass of themselves over losing bragging rights to break the story.

There is always a silver lineing to every darkish cloud and that is it took the attention away from the Katrina report, Able Danger, Libby and the CIA testimony regarding White House intelligence tampering.

Things in Iraq are better than ever.

no news is good news.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 06:54 AM

"He's got a 16-gauge choked down like a rifle
He don't like a man that's a-gonna trifle.
Shot-gun Boogie (* * * *) draws a bead so fine ...
Look out big boy, he's loaded all the time."

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 06:44 AM

"negligence" under the law is 'an act or failure to act' which implies intent.

A 'failure to act' is an 'act' called 'negligence'.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Ron Davies
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 06:41 AM

As you might imagine, this was manna from heaven for Jon Stewart et al. Hope you've caught some of his shows dealing with it. My favorite was the reaction to Cheney's statement on all that he (Cheney) had suffered in mental anguish. They were putting words in Cheney's mouth--"Sorta like Vietnam--if I'd gone there"

Jon also did a riff on --in a post 9-11 world, it was important to let the quail know that America was strong--which Cheney could only do by shooting his friend in the face

The Wall St Journal had an article--proving what several posters have already said--that Cheney, for all his alleged hunting experience, is a wretched hunter--even in a canned "hunt", where, as several have already indicated, they drive out to where the birds are.

The headline says it all--as several hunters on Mudcat have already noted: "Proper Way To Hunt Quail: Don't Shoot Low"

Cheney didn't.

The fact that, was it Doug R?--has also been peppered by birdshot from other "hunters" just means Cheney is not the only feeble excuse for a "quail hunter" out there.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: gnu
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 06:23 AM

"As far as the other person notifying you if hes in the line of fire,
what do you do when you have a dog with you. Is the dog supposed to say something?"

Bird dogs are trained to freeze and point and to flush and freeze.

(BTW, most dogs are not as tall as most humans. Seldom does a hunter train a bird dog to jump up in the air.)

"...in Canada we have an offence called criminal negligence causing bodily harm."

Hmmm. Wouldn't this charge require proof of criminal intent?

"And, it's not just Dick. It happens every day.

If it's no real bother, mind if I steer a wide berth of you? But, no, it doesn't "happen every day". At least not in normal company; can't say if your situation pertains."

Do I mind? No, I insist, if you continue to take my statements out of context and apply them improperly. Go back and read what I actually wrote, after which, I referred to the "raptor" thread to demonstrate my point. Here is another point from that thread. Someone tried to put words in my mouth because they couldn't back up thier arguement. That kind of nonsense seems to happen a lot around here too. Why, just look at what you did by taking my statement out of context and trying to put words in my mouth. Fight fair or take off eh, ya hoser.

NEW STUFF ALERT for those who only read snippets of posts :

Anyone know the choke on that 28? While a 28 with 7 1/2 might be common for quail, I would like to know the choke. If Dick wasn't using open cylinder or improved... well, then, I think you know where this is going. Obviously, if it was modified, he is guilty of criminal negligence causing elderly harm. And, if it was full, premeditated murder in the first guage, game over.

Now, I must concern myself with matters of actual importance, do something useful, something constructive... perhaps I'll trim my pubes.

PS... Peace. "lucky quail"! That was fuckin priceless man!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 05:55 AM

... how much responsiblity does the vice-president really have in connection to the deaths over in the mideast ... let's face it, the vice-presidency is rather an impotent position.

Not so impotent when you are pulling the strings of the Puppet-in- Chief.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 17 Feb 06 - 02:46 AM

you're quite right gnu. I know jack shit about hunting and I am generally unsympathetic to anybody with need for a gun anywhere - apart from soldiers and police officers.

however I do know about drinking. and I know this much. if anybody has started to use the phrase 'drinking problem' about you - even after only one beer, you should be kept well out of the way of guns, cars, and possibly much else.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: GUEST,dianavan
Date: 16 Feb 06 - 09:52 PM

Dewey asked - "Is your desire for a manslaughter conviction, because you do not like Mr. Cheney as a person? and/or the Republican Leadership specifically?"

I don't know Mr. Cheney so how can I judge him as a person? I judge his actions because he is the 2nd in command of the U.S.A. Whether or not he's Republican, has nothing to do with the fact.

He shot a man accidently and should be tried. In Canada its called bodily harm due to criminal negligence. I thought manslaughter would be more fitting because he is responsible for the slaughter of thousands. I am not surprised that he is trigger happy and anyone who supports a 'hunter' who shoots first and asks questions later is not someone who should be allowed to carry a gun of any kind.

How can you possibly mistake a man for a bird? Gimme a break, Cheney and his companion were just plain careless. What kind of a sport shoots before seeing his prey?

I do not hope for anyone's death. I'm just chuckling about the karma.

Cheney says this was the worst day of his life. I'm sure! He tried to cover the entire situation by transporting the victim to a small, out of the way, hospital. He got caught. I'm sure it was embarassing and he knew it would make him look like the fool he is. Does he feel remorse? I doubt it. If he had an ounce of empathy, he would not be supporting and profitting from the invasion of Iraq.

Cheney is hardly impotent. He is a danger to society.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Cluin
Date: 16 Feb 06 - 09:43 PM

Spirit of the West had a song out a few years ago dealing with that theme:


Loaded Minds
(Geoffrey Kelly/John Mann)

Young boy is killed by a gun-toting driver
He caught him, shot him `cause the kid went too far
When the man was asked why, he replied with conviction,
"I caught the young punk throwing stones at my car,
Stones at my car"

Uncle Sam's on the billboard, stars and stripes shining
As I drive by, he's a message for me
The sign reads the constant preparation for war
This is the preservation of peace

   There's a war in our streets,
   There's a war in our streets,
   And we're loading our minds with the words "self-defence"
   Take someone's life for crossing over our fence
   There's a war in our streets
   There's a war in our streets
   And we're loading our minds with the words "self-defence"
   And we take someone's life for crossing over our fence
   That's the freedom

Tricks on his door sent an old man's heart racing
Tricks on his mind broke his patience in two
He answered the door with the crack of a rifle
Paper boy dies, delivering the news
He becomes the news

Folk heroes and murderers, they're condoned and condemned
They're crucified and idolized for taking their stand
Is this how we live? All good people on guard?
Defending our rights, in the home and native land

(chorus)

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: GUEST,AR282
Date: 16 Feb 06 - 09:06 PM

The Japanese foreign exchange student, I remember that. The night before Halloween this boy and another got dressed up in costumes to go to a Halloween party. They had a leaflet with directions but it had the wrong address on it. They went to the door of the house and rang the bell. A woman opened the door and one boy said they were there for the party and holds up the leaflet. Bizarrely, the woman screamed, slammed the door shut and announced they were being robbed. The two boys assumed they had the wrong house and started to leave. I think that next the garage door of this house flew open and a man with a rifle or shotgun, I forget, yells, "Freeze!" The Japanese boy for some reason began to walk toward the man--apparently trying to reason with him or perhaps thinking it was some kind of Halloween prank or maybe he didn't know what the term meant. The man gunned him down.

Can you imagine sending your kid to experience another country and he's all excited about going and you send him off figuring he's going to have a great time and lots of stories to tell when he comes back and the goddamned sons-of-bitches take your only child away in a most brutal fashion for no fucking reason? The killer was also acquitted of murder at his trial.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Arne
Date: 16 Feb 06 - 08:50 PM

CET:

Well, nobody sane is suggesting that the Vice President shot his friend on purpose, but in Canada we have an offence called criminal negligence causing bodily harm. Is there really no equivalent in the Texas penal code?

Ummm, in Texas, firing guns willy-nilly is consider to be a virtue, and I wouldn't be surprised if you get bonus points for the more people you wing. Don't believe me, check out what happened to some kid who rang the door on the wrong house....

Cheers,

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Arne
Date: 16 Feb 06 - 08:44 PM

Number Six:

... how much responsiblity does the vice-president really have in connection to the deaths over in the mideast ... let's face it, the vice-presidency is rather an impotent position..

You've got to be kidding. The ol' Dubya sock-puppet wouldn't even appear at the Sept. 11th hearings without pal Cheney by his side. With new high-test string, you can get those things working a little distance away and not have 'em show too obviously, but I suspect they couldn't make 'em navigate the doors and corridors in the Congress without getting pinched and tangled....

Cheers,

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Arne
Date: 16 Feb 06 - 08:37 PM

gnu:

The stamp just came out. The local admin didn't even know it was required or they would have informed him when they WERE ASKED FOR ALL NECESSARY PRMITS!!! Good sufferin fuck!! I can't believe you said that.

As they say, "ignerrance of the law is no defense". That being said, they let him off with a slap'o'da'wrist because the stamp was new and not too many people knew about it. But that hardly changes the fact that the law required it and he didn't have it. Say what you want about that being understandable, excusable, or (in this case) excuse, but the FOTM is he didn't have it in violation of the law. OK?

Gee. You are so intelligent that you missed my point.

Yep. Sailed clear over my head. Guess you weer aiming high; a wise decision in these troubled times. So why don't you try again?

I just cannot comprehend that so many people who seem to stand for "right" and "justice" and so on can be so bloodthirsty, can be so willing to convict a man with no proof, can judge a man guilty before the facts are known.

He shot someone. Maybe an accident. Maybe intentional. We don't know all the facts, as you say. I'm willing to be charitable (for now) and assume the former, but I don't see how you can get off with any other conclusion than one of those two given even his own statements on what happened. So there we are. Hate to say it, but you do bear some responsibility when you accidentally shoot someone. Fair 'nuff?

And, it's not just Dick. It happens every day.

If it's no real bother, mind if I steer a wide berth of you? But, no, it doesn't "happen every day". At least not in normal company; can't say if your situation pertains.

Read the thread on the guy who shot the raptor in England just recently.

As I stated above: If you're going to pull that trigger, you are responsible for making sure that whatever is in your shot's path is something you want to hit. You don't know? Then don't pull the friggin' trigger. People who violate this rule are generally termed ... with derision ... "trigger-happy". Come to think of it, this is hardly the first instance that ol' "GFY" Dick has pulled the trigger too soon. Except last time, 2200 young Americans ended up dead. You're right if you think this latest shooting is a little thing. It is; it's just too damn symptomatic of why Cheney ought to be allowed to "go hunt himself" ... and nothing else. I would note that the next time Scalia is asked to join Cheney hunting, he might be inclined to find more "conflict of interest" than he did the prior time.

Seriously, gnu: Cheney's a "loose cannon". No other way to put it. And that's that....

Cheers,

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Peace
Date: 16 Feb 06 - 08:21 PM

Thank you. I feel better now.

And for you from my ol' Mom (gone now):

I eat my peas with honey,
I've done it all my life;
They do taste kinda funny
But it keeps them on my knife.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 16 Feb 06 - 08:19 PM

"Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer"

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Charley Noble
Date: 16 Feb 06 - 08:13 PM

Peace-

Your quail quip was quite witty!

As my mother used to say:

I love me quail with a Q because he is quiet;
I hate him with a Q because he is quarrelsome;
His name is Quincy. He comes from Quebec.
He lives on quahogs and quinces,
And he is quite a quilter!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: CET
Date: 16 Feb 06 - 08:12 PM

I still don't like the rush to judgment by so many on this thread, any more than Gnu does, but as more gets reported, the case for Cheney gets weaker. It seems now that he turned and fired, and then saw that he had shot his friend. It seems evident then, that: 1) he shot at too low an angle; 2) his friend was not hidden; 3) whether or not the other hunter had moved out of his proper zone, Mr. Cheney clearly fired before verifying that the field of fire was clear.

I used to be a prosecutor (in remission for 12 years now), and I have some difficulty in understanding the attitude of the District Attorney, who was quoted as saying he could see nothing criminal in this, and that it was obviously an accident. Well, nobody sane is suggesting that the Vice President shot his friend on purpose, but in Canada we have an offence called criminal negligence causing bodily harm. Is there really no equivalent in the Texas penal code? Any Mudcatter lawyers out there?

CET

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Cluin
Date: 16 Feb 06 - 08:00 PM

Face it, Peace. We're all self-involved pricks, Peace.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Peace
Date: 16 Feb 06 - 07:55 PM

"Gotta admit though that the quail got lucky, huh?"

Arseholes the lot of you. I give you the best laugh you've had all day and does anyone notice? Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo . . . .

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Feb 06 - 07:51 PM

Well, meanwhile back at the ranch, Boss Hog was fleecing the Indians...

Just another smokescreen...

Like who cares??? I sho nuff don't... Heck, I wouldn't mind seeing Cheney shoot up the entire Repub Congress... (No deaths, please... Jus' a bunch of sore folks who wouldn't be able to mess up anything more fir a week or two...(...

But like I siad, who really cares??? All this amounts to is yet another distraction to keep the American people from realizing that they are being robbed!!!

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: number 6
Date: 16 Feb 06 - 07:49 PM

". I mean compared to all the other brutal deaths he has caused."

... how much responsiblity does the vice-president really have in connection to the deaths over in the mideast ... let's face it, the vice-presidency is rather an impotent position.

What disturbs me is this 'hunting group' comprised a bunch of people that have very close ties to making very large profits in 'contracts' reaping big $$ rewards over there.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 16 Feb 06 - 07:48 PM

He didn't know them personally, so it was OK - it's called 'distancing'.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: GUEST,petr
Date: 16 Feb 06 - 07:48 PM

my father-in-law who is a retired conservation officer and hunts regularly told me that he will not shoot unless he is certain of a kill.
(this is deer or moose hunting obviously)

As far as the other person notifying you if hes in the line of fire,
what do you do when you have a dog with you. Is the dog supposed to say something?

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Peace
Date: 16 Feb 06 - 07:48 PM

Gotta admit though that the quail got lucky, huh?

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Cluin
Date: 16 Feb 06 - 07:44 PM

Well, I'm sure no fan of Dick Cheney. I still think he's an evil bastard. But he shot his buddy, for chrissake... I've gotta admit I feel a bit sorry for him.

But not as sorry as I feel for his buddy.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Amos
Date: 16 Feb 06 - 07:41 PM

The "one beer" was, he said, three hours earlier.

I think Gnu has the rights of it -- there is no sense or need to lambast Cheney for anymore than he actually did. The fact is he shot someone. He was entirely at fault for it. And he wisely said so, too.

I still don't get why it made him feel bad, though. I mean compared to all the other brutal deaths he has caused. I can only conclude it is because the others were mostly not Republicans.

A