BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot

Subject: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: GUEST,Invictus
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 05:12 PM

Back after a few weeks of intense rioting around the world due to an organized effort to express resentment of certain published cartoons implying the Prophet Mohammed was a suitable subject for comment, Iran announced a plan to hold a test of free expression using the Holocaust as a subject.

This has been going on for a while now.

Iran Holocaust Cartoons

Still waiting on the first Jewish cartoon riot.

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 05:23 PM

Get a life, Sol.

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 05:26 PM

John Stewart is a Jew and he's a LAUGH riot all the time!!

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: C. Ham
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 05:31 PM

Clinton,

"John" Stewart -- the folksinger -- is not Jewish.

I believe you're thinking of "Jon" Stewart -- the comedian -- who is.

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 05:48 PM

Lenny Bruce was a riot too. You just have to be in the right place at the right time.

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 06:11 PM

Leny Bruce knew of the inanity of religious and ehtnic prejudices and skewered them all so well---so far ahead of his time.

Bill H

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: Peace
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 06:16 PM

By Israel News Agency Staff

Jerusalem----February 7.....In response to Iran's best-selling newspaper announcing a competition to find the best cartoons about the Holocaust, the Israel News Agency launched an SEO - Internet search engine optimization marketing contest to prevent Iran news Websites from reaching top positions in Google.

"When I heard that a newspaper in Iran was now holding a cartoon contest on the Holocaust, I knew that SEO would be the most potent tool in combating it," said Joel Leyden, publisher of the Israel News Agency. "That 12 winners in Iran would have their Holocaust cartoons published and would receive two gold coins (worth about $140 each) as a prize, I donned my SEO Israel Defense Forces uniform, cocked and loaded my keyboard. There is no way that Iran will spit on the graves of over 6 million Jews who perished in the Holocaust."

The Israel News Agency is asking every SEO advertising marketing professional to create Web pages and optimize the keywords: "Iran Holocaust Cartoon Contest" in order to prevent the Iran newspapers, the enemies of Israel, the Jews, the Christians and Western democracy from attaining a high Google and Google News position. The SEO contestants will wrap these keywords around their comments of how Iran has sponsored Islam suicide bombing terror attacks against innocent men, women and children in Israel. Iran directly funds the activities of the terrorist groups Hamas and Hizbullah.

"SEO contests are held almost every day marketing casino and other commercial Web sites," said Leyden. "It's time we used SEO Internet marketing against Islamic terrorists, those in Iran who wish to "wipe Israel off the map" and turn democracy's key principle of freedom of speech against those of us living in the US, England, France, Denmark, Israel, Turkey, Spain and all Western nations."

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: Peace
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 06:21 PM

Iran: HEY, aren't these the same people who supposrt Hezbollah?

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 06:33 PM

Yup. Pretty much the same way the USA used to support the Mujahedin...(before they became the Taliban)...or Saddam (before he failed to take out Iran)...

Crooks use crooks to kill other crooks. Ordinary people die in the crossfire.

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 06:45 PM

By the way, rioting is usually done mostly by poor people, not by affluent people. Clearly, the way to get Jews motivated enough to riot would be to reduce a majority of the Jewish population to dire poverty and confine them in ghettos, shantytowns, decaying suburbs, refugee camps, crime-ridden inner cities, and that sort of thing.

I'm not sure how this could be done...but I bet it would result in some dandy Jewish riots after awhile. ;-)

(And, yes, I am being satirical...but think about it. Who goes out and riots? Do well-off people do it? Naw...they sit at home, watch it on TV, and complain about how society is going to pot.)

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 07:03 PM

I think you missed a satirical point here, Little Hawk.   That takes more subtlety---Jon Stewart has done it regarding Geraldo Rivera recently, Lenny Bruce has done it by using the epithets at length to show the inanity and he does it in a wonderful sketch about a used car salesman who bashes Jews, Blacks, et; in his lot in some southern state and ends with a punch line---so, ya all will come here to get it after visiting all those other pimps ---and you will get it here---we been giving it to ya all for 30 yrs at the same location.

That is satire---if you have to explain it it is not satire--you have to get it without explanation.   Here is a thought---putting it this way might make it satirical--

"The Jews are going to riot because they heard that if they get to do business in Lebanon you cannot charge interest--they are pulling out all stops to overturn Muslim law stating that they do it and call it a fee---we await the riots to force this turn of events".

No explanation---just let people mull it over---like Lenny Bruce saying your sister would jump over 5 Charles Laughtons to get to one Harry Belafonte.

Bill H

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 07:05 PM

LOL! Right on, Bill.

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 07:26 PM

Thanks--LH--much appreciated. I meant to be constructive.

Bill H

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: EBarnacle
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 07:42 PM

When you are busy working, and learning, there is very little time to riot, although some of the ultraOrthodox seem to find the time.

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 08:03 PM

That's true. Unemployed people and students, both of whom have more free time, relatively speaking, are more likely to riot than working people are.

It's mainly the disenfranchised in a society who riot. Their rioting is a response to their feelings of powerlessness, as much as to anything else.

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 09:09 PM

"It's mainly the disenfranchised in a society who riot. Their rioting is a response to their feelings of powerlessness, as much as to anything else. "

And that was the ORIGINAL reason for paying 'unemployment benefit' - rich people have more property to lose in riots! - something which the current modern Rich American Right Wing Wankers are too stupid, greedy and short sightedly selfish to remember...

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 09:16 PM

Yeah. Read about the draft riots in New York City during the Civil War for a really chilling account of what happens when tens of thousands of frustrated and enraged poor people go berserk in the streets.

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: C. Ham
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 09:57 PM

By the way, rioting is usually done mostly by poor people, not by affluent people. Clearly, the way to get Jews motivated enough to riot would be to reduce a majority of the Jewish population to dire poverty and confine them in ghettos, shantytowns, decaying suburbs, refugee camps, crime-ridden inner cities, and that sort of thing.

I'm not sure how this could be done...but I bet it would result in some dandy Jewish riots after awhile.

Prior to the 1950s, most Jews here in Canada (and in the U.S. as well) did live in dire poverty. In most of Europe, they were confined in horrible ghettos until 6 million -- including almost every member of my family that did not come to Canada around 1920 -- were murdered in the Holocaust.

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 10:03 PM

Satire is often lost on those closest to the unpleasantness.

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: number 6
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 10:36 PM

One of the largest riots in history ... the Bolshevik Revolution ... was largely the product of Jewish thinking, Jewish discontent, Jewish effort to reconstruct.

The newly formed Soviet government issued a decree that made anti-Semitism a crime in Russia. The new Communist regime thus became the first in the world to severely punish all expressions of anti-Jewish sentiment. Unfortunately, as time went on the non-Jewish Soviet leaders (Stalin) became suspicious, and anti-Semitism gained it's foothold once again. It should be noted that the impact of this Big Riot sparked much more suspicions toward Jews namely the Nazis and 'Tail Gunner Joe' MaCarthy and his paranoid delusions regarding who is behind this Communist Conspiracy.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: number 6
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 10:41 PM

The Bolshevik Rvolution ... now that was some dandy Jewish riot.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: EBarnacle
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 10:44 PM

The Russian revolution is a direct result of the diminution of the Duma by tsar Nicholas in 1905. Once the people's expectations are raised, the surest way to make them discontented is to withdraw their newly gained rights.

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: Peace
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 10:46 PM

1905 was the first revolution.

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 10:47 PM

The French might just disagree with that... :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: number 6
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 10:50 PM

and the Americans.

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: Peace
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 10:51 PM

Some days it just don't pay to get up! :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 10:52 PM

... and the English had several aborted previous attempts, only put down by brutal slaughter of unarmed civilians...

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: number 6
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 10:53 PM

Yeah ... think I'll go back to bed.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 10:53 PM

Penny for your thoughts peace?

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: Peace
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 10:53 PM

Then there was the Industrial Revolution. That killed many too.

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: bobad
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 10:55 PM

Don't forget the Miller Lite taste revolution - that too.

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: number 6
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 10:56 PM

Then there was the Beatle's Revolution 9.

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 11:00 PM

I prefer Love Potion No 9 myself...

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: Peace
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 11:01 PM

You are a bit kinky, Robin . . . .

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: number 6
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 11:01 PM

At least it had a melody.

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 11:07 PM

He meant that 1905 was the first Russian revolution!

Yes, C. Ham, I am well aware that most Jews lived in poverty prior to 1950. That, however, was not the point of my satirical remarks. I was not making a point about Jews, I was making a point about poverty itself, and the part it plays in providing people who are very willing to riot, given an incident which provokes their smouldering resentment. To have riots you usually need either a resentful underclass, a monetary or social collapse that affects the majority of citizens, or a tremendously unpopular war that affects the majority of citizens (as the draft did in the USA during the Vietnam War, for example).

There were a lot of riots in Germany, for instance, after the First World War, and it was because people's confidence in the government had collapsed, and they were desperate. The Nazis took advantage of that instability to gain power eventually, as you well know.

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 11:20 PM

Glad we sorted THAT out, Little Hawk... :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 11:21 PM

Oh, and I forgot to say, I prefer making Love, not War,

Peace...

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 11:23 PM

So do most people, given the opportunity. But war is big business.

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: bobad
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 11:23 PM

So is love.

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: Peace
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 11:31 PM

I took my troubles down to Madame Rue.
You know that gypsy with the gold capped tooth
She's got a pad down on 34th and Vine,
Selling little bottles of Love Potion #9.

I told her that I was a flop with chicks.
I've been disgraced since 1956.
She looked at my palm and she made a magic sign.
She said what you need is Love Potion number 9.

She bent down and turned around and gave me a wink.
She said I'm gonna make it up right here in the sink.
It smelled like turpentine, and looked like Indian ink.
I held my nose, I closed my eyes, I took a drink!

I didn't know if it was day or night.
I started kissing everything in sight.
But when I kissed a cop down on 34th and Vine.
He broke my little bottle of Love Potion number 9.

INSTRUMENTAL

I held my nose, I closed my eyes, I took a drink!

I didn't know if it was day or night.
I started kissing everything in sight.
But when I kissed a cop down on 34th and Vine.
He broke my little bottle of Love Potion number 9.

Love Potion #9...
Love Potion #9...
Love Potion #9...

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 11:45 PM

True, bobad, true.

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: GUEST,walt
Date: 17 Aug 06 - 06:01 AM

I always thought that the Bolshevik Revolution was a product of some 20 million Russian war dead ,together with intolerable conditions on the home front and corruption and decay of the old order.

The February Revolution meant that tens of thousands of Russian soldiers streamed away from the front and the end of th war cabinet.

The Bolshevik led October Revolution a few months later was to turn the world upside down if only for a few years with the Bolsheviks ending Russian participation in the slaughterhouse that was WW1 and the declaration of a workers republic.
walt

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: chucky
Date: 17 Aug 06 - 07:23 AM

Martin Gibson was right about one thing, you people really are anti semitic.

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 17 Aug 06 - 08:20 AM

Ah!

"Marty in Disguise - with glasses!"

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: AggieD
Date: 17 Aug 06 - 08:21 AM

As one who's family did migrate from the Pale (for all of you ignorami, that is the area of Russia where Jews were forced into ghettos in the 18th & 19th Centuries) because they were repressed & poor & prejudiced against. Those Jews who did escape didn't bother sitting on their backsides & expect the world to listen to them & bleat 'poor me' just because of their circumstances, then riot because they were 'repressed'& didn't like what others said about them.

No way. They just got out & worked bloody hard, educated their children, built their lives & made their way in the world. This has always caused jealousy & hate or am I just being paranoid because of all the anti-semitic bastards out there.

However there was what turned into a riot when Jews in the East End of London went out & protested along with Trade Unionists, Dockers etc. against Mosley's British Union of Fascists who were strutting through the streets during the late 1930's. Again for all those who don't know they were British supporters of Nazi Germany/Hitler.

It really makes me sick to the stomach every time I read the idiotic rantings about Jews. Yes there are some ultra-orthodox nutters, but most of us are just ordinary people who quietly get on with our lives, eat sleep love & live the same as everyone else. The amount of times I've had a shock/horror reaction when I tell people that I'm Jewish is unbelievable. I too live an ordinary life & that's all that most of us want surely?

Despite all the rantings about the Israelis stealing land from the Arabs/Palestinians let me remind you that the area was a dry dust bowl before the settlement & many of those living there were perfectly happy for the crazy Jew to come in & try to make a living. They were laughed at & ridiculed. Now that Israel is a strong nation, they've changed their tune & will happily kill as many Jews as possible. All Israelis want is to live in exactly the same peaceful way that we expect to do without lving in fear or terrorism every day. Something which we now all have to face unfortunately because the few want the many to suffer.

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 17 Aug 06 - 08:36 AM

"the area was a dry dust bowl before the settlement"

...and when the water - and/or the money to get water there from elsewhere! - runs out, it will be so again...

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: number 6
Date: 17 Aug 06 - 08:46 AM

The the collective thoughts and determination of the people of Israel ... and yes money from successful Jews globally will keep it going.

Is there anything wrong with giving money to help out a cause one beleives in? Jews look after each other, so do Italians, Koreans, Muslims .... It would be more benefical if all humans looked after each other as humans ... but currently we haven't reached that plateau yet.

Yes Aggie, a lot of resentment regarding Jews is due to misunderstanding and jealousness.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: number 6
Date: 17 Aug 06 - 08:53 AM

The 2nd statement in my post up above does not refer to giving moneies to help eliminate another 'group of peoples' ... just stating this before this thread goes off on a rant of providing money to paramilitary or military groups to be used for any offensive destructive manners.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Still Waiting for Jews To Riot
From: AggieD
Date: 17 Aug 06 - 01:28 PM

No Foolestroupe you are wrong, it was bloody hard back breaking work work that turned the place from a dustbowl into a garden & not money. I know that because my Mother in Law & her first husband were amongst those who lived & worked through all sorts of hardships, picking stones out of the ground to make the land suitable to be planted, digging ditches to irrigate that land, living a hand to mouth existence to help those people who would eventually stay on & try to live their lives in peace & quiet. Of course Jews help others with support, monetary or otherwise. This is probably why we are so hated & misunderstood. People can't understand that we consider ourselves to be one large family & will do everything we can to support each other. That's not to say that we don't support others. Our Synagogue regularly supports a hospital that specialises in helping Palestinian mothers & babies, and the amount of charity that I know many people give to non-Jewish organisations is vast. It is one of the most basic tenents of our religion to give charity & help those who can't help themselves. If you don't like that then you're just an anti-semitic idiot who knows nothing about us.

I'm not blind or blinkered & I hate what's been happening in Lebanon, but if you are stupid enough to think that Israel is going to just sit back while Hizbollah, Iran, Syria or any onther country sends it's bombs & suicide bombers in, then think again. How would you Americans feel if suddenly Mexico took to sending missiles into Texas because they wanted the state & believed that Americans should get out of land that they believed was historically theirs? Strange comparison Huh!!

Just remember that Iran has nuclear power. Do you trust them to only use it for domestic power? If you do then you are more of a fool than I already think you are.

However I am sure quite sure that if there was no oil in all this then many western countries would just turn the blind eye that they have done in places like Zimbabwe.