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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: GUEST,fumblefingers Date: 20 Nov 06 - 12:56 AM Watch this |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: Ron Davies Date: 19 Nov 06 - 07:57 AM "moneyed elite win by controlling both teams"--ah, yes, more bitter drivel. Monitor Pelosi et al.--and try to steer them in the right direction, if they don't seem to be an improvement on the Bushites. But it's just a bit premature to write them off just yet. Good thing the US voting public is not as deeply cynical as some posters here. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 18 Nov 06 - 10:06 PM Gonna ha' tae agdree wi' Bobby An' nea wi' you, Gostlie... ttr |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: Peace Date: 18 Nov 06 - 08:58 PM I obviously missed doing SOMEthing in the 1960s. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: GUEST Date: 18 Nov 06 - 06:22 PM You can deNy the green vagina if you want, but it would be better to deFy it. Come to what little bit of sense you have left, while there's still time. The moneyed elite win by controlling both teams. The feminized Democrats and the over-machoed-homo-Repubicans are just the left and right hands of the same beast. Pelosi's a shill for the good ol boys. They're laying the sex card on the table in order to dupe women who feel "disenfranchised." Women have been taught to want careers AND families, but it's proven to be biologically difficult to have both. And now those women are angry (Soaprah tells them they're angry), and it's all the fault of the homo-Repubicans who poke little boys, drink gasoline and fart fuel emissions. Knee-jerk! There's Nancy! She'll save us! Yes the truth is painful, but deFy the green vagina, don't deNy it. Buenas noches. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: Barry Finn Date: 18 Nov 06 - 05:39 PM Yes Peace, please do. I'll bring the drink,,,,,a quart of woolite should do. The world bank started the woman's movement! Didn't realize the world bank to be that old. Women have been working since time began, you just won't credit them! Who hell do you think supported men all this time, espically mindless men. Yo momma ain't to proud of you today, boy. Barry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: Don Firth Date: 18 Nov 06 - 02:40 PM Where is Winston Rothschild III when you need him? Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: pdq Date: 18 Nov 06 - 01:54 PM "Great, Green Gobs of Greasy, Grimy, Gopher Guts Mutilated Monkey Meat, Itty Bitty Birdie Feet Great, Green Gobs of Greasy, Grimy, Gopher Guts And me without a spoon." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: GUEST Date: 18 Nov 06 - 01:44 PM Yes, break out the hip waders. Vaginal politics are a deeply messy subject. Women have been had. The World Bank (and its federal reserve branch in the U.S.) created the "women's movement" in order to break up families. More taxes can be collected if the woman is forced to go to work. Split up the home, then BOTH parents have to work. And that means fewer hours spent with the kids, so the kids can be governmentized into mindless trolls by TV and "public education." What a sweet, sweet plan. So all-encompassing. Screws up all members of the family. And when women begin to suspect the truth, give them a coiffed Madame Speaker. That'll keep 'em quiet. And the enviromental movement. The waft coming from Al Gore's vagina seems disingenuine. Is s/he not what s/he claims to be? The polar caps are melting so coastal areas will be flooded! Panic! Run for the hills. But wait a minute. Ice expands when it freezes. Therefore, if the caps melt, the volume displacement caused by the ice will lessen, leading to LOWERING sea levels. It's an ill wind that blows from the Gorish vagina. The Biodiversity Treaty attempts to sell you on the idea that you are bad for the environment. Bad humans. You need to be CONTROLLED. But the people controlling you (Rumsfeld/Monsanto) have spliced cockroach genes into your tomatoes to give them longer shelf life. Thousands of other tinkerings too. It takes generations for humans to adapt to one little genetic glitch in the food chain, but now we're being assaulted with THOUSANDS of unnatural changes, all at once. You have been badly deceived, you greenies! Your bodies are now struggling to fight against substances never meant to be eaten. "Diabetes" is skyrocketing, but that's just an umbrella term being used to cover the collection of symptoms in our Monsanto-assaulted bodies. You are eating scorpion genes and stinkweed genes and your body is fighting them as it would any other pathogen. And your body is losing. So who's the bad guy in this situation...the man down the block with the smoky car or the CEO who approves the addition of spider genes to your wheat? You've been deceived, I say, and now you'll be mollified by the vaginal team coming in to continue the deception. The era of the Gore-y Green Vagina is upon us. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: Peace Date: 18 Nov 06 - 01:13 PM OK, Barry. You get the hip boots and I'll get the shovel. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: GUEST,Dr. Jung-Freud Date: 18 Nov 06 - 01:12 PM The last few posts are highly revealing. GUEST's political views are formed by a deep-seated insecurity about his masculinity (note the predilection for the use of guns, which are a phallic symbol) and his contempt for women (his disparaging remarks about "vaginal politics"). His misogyny springs from misgivings about his manhood and his hatred of women, and this forms his world outlook. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: Peace Date: 18 Nov 06 - 01:12 PM Barry, I had NO idea . . . . |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: Barry Finn Date: 18 Nov 06 - 11:08 AM It's time for me to get out my hip boots. Barry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: GUEST Date: 18 Nov 06 - 08:50 AM The coiffed waft of vaginal politics in general is a sham, and it was used to get women out to vote against the war that's killing their children. The mothers' reward...the Democrats get into office and say we need to sent 20,000 MORE troops to Iraq before pulling out. The moneyed elite who own both parties love a good joke just like the rest of us. Now vaginal politics will start kicking around that tired old Earth Mother construct. Gaia. Al Gore will be its flatulent spokesman in the U.S. First-world nations will be told we need to pay for harming the planet, but it's not the Toyota driver that's harming the planet, it's the corporations who gene-splice randomly and release the crap into the biosphere. The Luciferians running the world will now use Nancy Pelosi's vagina to suck Democrats into a gibbering mindset of "mothering" the earth, and the end result of the movement will be the goal of the old Biodiversity Treaty. Americans will be deemed harmful to the land, and we will slowly be forced off our property and into cities for easier extermination by bioweapons. The woman's movement is a sham. The people who created it did so to gain control over women. The environmental movemnt is a sham. The people who control it want control over all the real estate on the planet. Pelosi's coiffed vaginal politics are a sham. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: akenaton Date: 18 Nov 06 - 05:01 AM Wouldn't mind a bit more detail on Pelosi's defeat over support of an anti war candidate for House Majority leader. Is GUEST correct that the progressive stance taken by the Dems before the election was a complete sham,......Certainly looks that way....Ake |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: akenaton Date: 18 Nov 06 - 04:49 AM "The thread is drifting because the sky is falling, Doug." "How does it feel . . .". Thanks Bruce....Satire is not dead.....LOL!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: Peace Date: 18 Nov 06 - 12:34 AM LOL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: Barry Finn Date: 18 Nov 06 - 12:33 AM Give Georgie a chance, after all he finally just got to Viet Nam. It takes a bit of time ya know. Barry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: Peace Date: 17 Nov 06 - 08:36 PM The thread is drifting because the sky is falling, Doug. "How does it feel . . .". |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: DougR Date: 17 Nov 06 - 08:07 PM Gee, if I didn't know better I'd think there has been a wee bit of thread drift here. DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: Greg F. Date: 17 Nov 06 - 05:29 PM Little Georgie DID duck this war- you don't see him (ar anyone in his family) over there putting HIS life on the line, do you? Just like Viet Nam. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: Amos Date: 17 Nov 06 - 04:23 PM Well, perhaps rather than duck it he could start with a little water-boarding. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: GUEST Date: 17 Nov 06 - 12:58 PM Bush's personal lesson would be to duck the war altogether, like he did Viet Nam. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: Peace Date: 17 Nov 06 - 11:37 AM "The American defeat in Vietnam holds lessons for the US in Iraq, George Bush said today." The man is a fuckin' genius, in'nt he? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: GUEST Date: 16 Nov 06 - 09:48 PM Brains backed up by guns. Hitler, Stalin and Mao disarmed their people, THEN they dealt with the brains. And there's no need to get violent if the people in charge don't break the law. You only use weapons against criminals, right? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: akenaton Date: 16 Nov 06 - 09:38 PM I tend to agree with that analysis Guest.:0) But I dont think violent revolution is powerful enough to defeat the facists of left or right. The destruction of organised power will take many generations and a whole new way of using our brains. But the sooner we start the better...Ake |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: GUEST Date: 16 Nov 06 - 09:18 PM But there lies the problem. The left has just as much to gain from corporatism as the right. Hell, the right IS the left. GWBush has tripled the size of the federal govt (the leftists are the ones who want strong federal control, so how'd Bush get in the govt-growing business?). Bush has federalized churches, federalized all police departments in the U.S., federalized education. He's out-lefted the left. THAT'S why Pelosi's vagina wafts sweetly over the Bush camp. Republicans kept an eye on penis-man Clinton, but they went comatose when one of "theirs" got into the White House. And lookit what the guy's done to the country. Why should the Dems get in his way when he's driving us full-bore to a communist dictatorship? This fascism thing is just a passing phase. Once the corporations become the corporations become the govt, they'll impose penny-pinching communism on us. Of course, a handfull will be exempt, because someone has to run things. But it'll be grey work dungarees and Chairman Hillary's little red book for the rest of us. Ah...the waft of Hillary's vagina. There I go again, getting swept along by the propaganda. Yeah, we need an alternative. You say progressive, I say return to the principles of our constitutional republic, so I guess that makes me reactionary. Anyway, buy guns folks. And don't ever give 'em up. The U.S. Constitution says you have a God-given right to own them. Surrender them one bullet at a time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: akenaton Date: 16 Nov 06 - 08:52 PM Rowan Atkinson is indeed a great supporter of free speech. Re the Republican /Democrat controversy I just stumbled on a quotation from American Socialist Eugene Debs "The differences between the Republican and Democratic Parties involve no issue, no principle in which the working class have any interest". This quote seems to nail it for me. Eugene Debs is said to be a hero of one Bernie Sanders...so called "independent" who is in reality, more of a Democrat than the Dems. Sanders seems to me to be someone who should be assisting the left to form an alternative to the corporate parties, but in fact appears to be the token "Socialist" who tempts people who would look for a genuine alternative,into voting for parties opposed to their aspirations....Ake |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: GUEST Date: 16 Nov 06 - 08:16 PM I've seen it akenaton. They are gestapo-like sometimes. The "Politically Correct" crowd can't wait to stomp freedom of thought to death. Such loving stomps. Such rotund, Al Gorish concern for the feelings of those who are starving. I remember reading a statement a while back by Rowan Atkinson. About the insane hate speech laws. Don't recall the wording, but essentially he said if you take away the ability to make fun of Frenchmen, it'll kill British comedy. Something like that. I should look for that interview. Mr. Bean may find himself in prison someday. Maybe the next Blackadder series will be from Oceania. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: akenaton Date: 16 Nov 06 - 07:49 PM Same thing is happening here in UK GUEST, where the Blair govt are swamping us with legislation designed to curtail freedom of speech. Most of this legislation is being hidden under the "War on terror" banner, but the real reason is that the politicians see power being taken back into the hands of those who elected them ...and they don't like it one little bit... The whole idea that we should be denied the freedom to express our opinions on religion, race, homosexuality, or any other controversial subject, is the start of the slippery slope to a police state run by the politicians and those who finance them. This ideology is pervasive....Just try to start a realistic discussion on any of these topics here on Mudcat and watch the thought police come crawling out from under their stones...Ake |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: Don Firth Date: 16 Nov 06 - 07:31 PM By the way, above I said "if you have anything resembling a plan, then let's hear it." Strangely enough, I don't see any response, other than another one of your personal attacks on me. Got nuthin' eh? Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: Don Firth Date: 16 Nov 06 - 07:28 PM As I said, GUEST,MM, you're just not paying attention. Not all the bombthrowers are on my left. You don't know just how far to the left I am, so don't bother trying to speculate. (Why am I arguing with you? Bloody waste of time!) Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: Peace Date: 16 Nov 06 - 07:17 PM "titter titter" That's a sexist remark, isn't it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: GUEST Date: 16 Nov 06 - 07:15 PM Ah...the "healing" new breeze wafting from Nancy's vagina. She'll bring us together: Democrat Control Means Hate Bill Will Pass For the past eight years, the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith has tried unsuccessfully to pass its Orwellian federal "anti-hate" bill. It has failed largely for one reason: Republican control of Congress.... With Democrats now in control, such freedom-saving clout no longer exists. ADL's federal thought crimes bill, "The Local Law Enforcement Enhancement Act," will be reintroduced soon after January 1. Since no Democrat in Congress has ever voted against the hate bill, it will pass. Pres. Bush has said he will sign a "modified" hate bill. If he does, free speech in America will quickly come to an end.... Today, from Canada to California, to Europe and Australia, ADL-inspired "thought crime" laws are stripping nations of free speech. In Canada and many European countries, it is a crime punishable by heavy fines and even imprisonment to make use of the internet to criticize federally protected groups, such as homosexuals and Muslims.... http://www.rense.com/general74/HATEBILL.HTM What sweet waft. We'll soon be able to put all those fucking Christians in prison for hate speech. How sweet. Women are so much more sweet and nice than men. And don't worry about websites like Mudcat. We can still criticice the "Christian fascists" and express hatred over Bush because that's not really hatespeech. Not when the Democrats are in charge (titter titter). Now we'll make them squirm. This is going to be so sweet. I'm overcome by waft. I love the new Democrats. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: Peace Date: 14 Nov 06 - 07:59 PM Jaysus, you folks use big words. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: GUEST,MM Date: 14 Nov 06 - 07:57 PM Yes Don, I'm aware you claim to be a non-party affiliated independent. But if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and waddles like a duck, I call it a duck. And your penchant for demonizing political independents to your left as "bombthrowers" (as you so love to do with me) is pure demagoguery. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: Peace Date: 14 Nov 06 - 07:20 PM Gentlemen, may I suggest that everyone take a deep breath and THINK? 1) The Democrats are not yet calling the shots. 2) Investigations into various people WILL take place. 3) It is therefore aerly for the shit to hit the fan. Have a very nice evening, all. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: Don Firth Date: 14 Nov 06 - 06:39 PM GUEST,MM, why do you single me out to name? Apparently you haven't been paying attention to quite a number of things I've written here. Among other things, where I said the following: "I am not now, nor have I ever been a member of the Democratic Party. I am not now, nor have I ever been a member of any political party. You assume I am a Democrat, and you are wrong. And you're just as wrong about a lot of people here.I hear people like you yelling "Off with their heads!" and offering damned little in the way of practical, strategic politics. I am no "party loyalist" as you and your anonymous cohorts keep insisting. I want to see the various members of the Bush administration--and others--get their come-uppance. But I'm far more interested in getting this illegal war stopped, this idiotic and ominous hacking away at our rights in the name of a spurious "war on terrorism" reversed, and get the country back on track and see if we can win back some of the international respect we like to think we had before the freakin' American Imperialists took over. Right now, the Democrats are our best hope of at least slowing the present downhill slide. If not them, then who? What WE need to do is stay on their backs and demand that they fulfill their promises—make sure they actually do what they say they're going to do. All I've heard out of you lot is a chorus of moaning about how rotten the Democrats are and how we're all doomed. Not much practical help. Apart from sharpening and oiling up the guillotine, if you have anything resembling a plan, then let's hear it. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: GUEST,MM Date: 14 Nov 06 - 05:30 PM Wow, thanks akenaton. It's refreshing to see someone who sees through the BS of this handful of Mudcat Dems, to stand up and say the emperor has no clothes. They (Don Firth, et al) seem to think they are the sole purveyors of truth around here, and that none of us need think for ourselves, exchange ideas, argue and defend our opinions, because they already have all the answers: the ones they are given by the Democratic party spinners through the filter of corporate media. Funny ole world, ain't it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: akenaton Date: 14 Nov 06 - 04:21 PM Big Mick may have a point in stating that people like Richard and I have no right to express opinions on American political affairs, but the US administration sure tried hard to convince us "europeans" to join them in their adventure into Iraq. Unfortunately our leaders were easy to convince Each wanting part of the reflected glory of the "Liberation". The electorate in France, Germany ,Spain, Italy and even Britain were never convinced by the lies. Mick is not only wrong but deluded, if he believes the members of this forum ignore the posts of Guest. I for one always read and respect the writing of this poster. He/she hits hard and often, the posts are eloquent and well researched. Whether one agrees or disagrees with the sentiments expressed, this is one poster who can't be ignored. Without folk like this the BS section would be bland and uninteresting. There is something pathetic about people of our age who never question why things never turn out as we would like them to and continually blame the labels for our political misery. I've been a radical all my life, seen the tricks played by the politicians and made plenty of mistakes,but at this stage of my life, I KNOW for sure that sticking our heads in the sand and hoping something good evolves from the Capitalist status quo is self-delusion on the grand scale. I say three cheers for GUEST!! we're lucky to have such an original mind in our group.......and fuck all who support warmongers whether they be "Pubs" OR "Dems"......Ake |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: Amos Date: 14 Nov 06 - 02:59 PM ..."In fact in things political, which covers ground considerable I am the very model of a modern flaming liberal!" A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: Peace Date: 14 Nov 06 - 01:20 PM "I guess you flaming liberals" Probably a good song in there. "I am the very model of a modern flaming liberal, I've information vegetable animible, miberal I know the presidential names from Washington to dickhead Bush I also know that being nice occasionally means that one must shush |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: Don Firth Date: 14 Nov 06 - 01:09 PM Thomas the Rhymer (at 14 Nov 06 - 01:47 AM) speaks wisdom. For the chronically disillusioned (or the chronically ill-humored) in our midst, I would suggest that before going off half-cocked about what they think the Democrats may or may not do in the next couple of years, maybe it would help to have some idea of what the Democrats say is on their agenda: Clicky. Don Firth (But then, sometimes I wonder why I even bother. They don't read this stuff anyway. I guess it's more fun for them to just bitch and complain and predict impending doom, and feel smug and superior because because others don't see it the way thay do. I think it's a form of belief in some sort of impending sectarian Armageddon.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: GUEST Date: 14 Nov 06 - 01:00 PM Thomas the Rhymer... Due process? You can't use that as an argument any more. The Military Commissions Act and Warner's Defense Appropriations bill did away with courts and habeas corpus. If you argue due process now, you're aruging in favor of disappearing people (as the Bush crowd did so well in Central America a few years ago), and you're arguing in favor of torturing people to death. I guess you flaming liberals think the world has suddenly changed because some Democrats got into office. Nothing's changed except a few bosses. But the Dems are notorious for being thugs, so they'll get along well with the uber-thugs of the Bush crime family. Due process. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: Peace Date: 14 Nov 06 - 12:22 PM In Canton we faced a dreary day so filled with--what the fuck? Hey, hello, all. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: GUEST Date: 14 Nov 06 - 12:18 PM "I know you are but what am I" behavior from the always predictable King of the Bullies. Who needs lots of PMs from posters, telling him to shut up and knock it off. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: Big Mick Date: 14 Nov 06 - 12:12 PM Pretty laughable, but it is fun to watch you react so predictably. It is laughable because you are the one who bullies and belittles anyone who disagrees with your position. It goes back to your hatred of veterans which is documented in earlier threads. It goes back to your hatred of middle class Americans who don't share your views, also documented in earlier threads. You always like to bully and when someone like me reacts, you become nasty and foul in your responses. You fool no one, and that is why I get the PM's from any number of Mudcatters telling me to ignore you. Which is what I will do now. Mick |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: GUEST Date: 14 Nov 06 - 11:21 AM See what I mean Richard? Just what we've come to expect from the King of the Mudcat Bullies. His MO? He bullies and belittles anyone who disagrees with his opinions. Someone even commented upon his egomaniacal bullying behavior over in Usenet a few years back. And the fact that sure does love his guns. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: Big Mick Date: 14 Nov 06 - 09:13 AM How about this one for both of you? How about you just answer the query? Would either of you like to see a violent overthrow of the democratic process we have? Or would you be satisfied with restoring its integrity? Are you so wed to your ideology,that only revolutionary violence will do? Richard, I have seen posts from many English posters that were angry that Yanks would insert themselves in the Northern Ireland debate. Are you now guilty of the same thing, that is inserting yourself in the American political debate to the extent that you are advocating our citizens take up arms? And I note that you still obfuscate on the questions instead of answering them. MM, folks just laugh at you. It is the same old crap from you. You make these bogus assertions. Someone challenges you, and you start using foul language, denigrate others views, and offer no solutions. By the way, have you noticed that Russ Feingold is a Democrat True Blue? How come he isn't an Independent? I am searching for a statement from him calling Pelosi a sellout for not calling for impeachment. Can't find it. You are an out of touch, bitter, ineffective spokesperson for a radical position that would only yield more misery. And ultimately fail. You are angry that the electorate, in their wisdom, have chosen a different path. You will now call them deluded, and stidently screech that only you have the answers. Check with a mental health professional. This is a condition with a name and a treatment. Mick |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi From: GUEST Date: 14 Nov 06 - 08:55 AM Now Richard, don't overestimate his intelligence--you'll only make him look even more foolish when his wounded ego comes thundering in here to assassinate your character because you dared challenge the Great and Powerful Big Mick. It ain't easy being king of the bullies, you know. |
