Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: ollaimh Date: 24 Jul 10 - 01:25 PM the state ofn our corporate controlled media is terrible. they used to ask the hartd questions, back thirty years ago if a politician proposed to solve things by free votes in parliament they would have hounded him to say how he'd vote on each and every issue, and then poll his cacus. the one time this was asked of harper his cronies shouted down the qwuestioner--julie van dussen. and that ewas that they let him off the hook with a pure fudge. and the treatement of dion whose green shift was less than the us or most european counrties. we have become the enviornmental neanderthalls of the developed world and reversed the good fiscal management. the tar sands will destroy the second lasgest water shed in north america before they are through and the oil men who own harper will tell canada to pay for the clean up because alberts will be broke by then. hell in a hand cart |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: GUEST,number 6 Date: 23 Jul 10 - 02:59 PM "who the hell is chongo?" Chongo is a monkey which is Little Hawk's alter ego. It's complicated, but somewhat tiresome and boring ... don't worry about it ... you'll get the picture after a while. biLL |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: gnu Date: 23 Jul 10 - 02:53 PM $54B estimate now. |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: ollaimh Date: 22 Jul 10 - 10:10 PM who the hell is chongo? if the next election leaves the cons a minority--no certainty--then the liberals may go back to the french english taking turns. that heavily leans to leblanc or trudeau. justin trudeau has been doing a lot to rebuild the party in quebec,but the fruit of that may still be two elections off. but we do need rescue from these neo cons who are driving us into insolvency faster thasn any previuos government with their irresponsible tax cuts and equally irrespobsible spending sprees/ eighty billion at least beofre the economic downturn. id martin were still in power we would have been free of deficit untill next year and then not the record the cons have set. harper and his cronies are bought and sold by oil interests who are the people of the past , stopping the changes needed untill the last minute |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: gnu Date: 22 Jul 10 - 05:29 PM Chretien gives Iggy true Shawinigan handshake |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: gnu Date: 20 Nov 08 - 04:17 PM Oh my. What a shame. When I talked to him, he was to visit my Mum to see a video magnifier she had just purchased. His eyesight was bad - a LeBlanc curse which I am destined for if I live that long. He had just misjudged a curb and fell, injuring himself quite badly. But, he never showed up, so.... ??? |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: Ed T Date: 20 Nov 08 - 04:08 PM gnu - I got my information from a friend that worked for Romeo for quite a few years, and recently visited him at his residence. |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: gnu Date: 20 Nov 08 - 01:10 PM Hahahahahaaaaa!!!!!!!! GOOD ONE, LH! |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: Little Hawk Date: 20 Nov 08 - 12:37 PM Hey! It could be a whole new fresh start for Canadian politics. Look, if Paris Hilton can run for president, why shouldn't Celine get to live at 24 Sussex Drive? I predict that once there, her term would go on...and on.... |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: gnu Date: 20 Nov 08 - 10:01 AM That's sick. |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: Little Hawk Date: 19 Nov 08 - 11:12 PM Strange that no one has suggested Celine Dion yet... |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: Beer Date: 19 Nov 08 - 10:12 PM Gnu you brought up an old memory that i have to relate. Can it be tied into politics I'm sure someone can. Years ago when my son was about 3 and not 34 he came down stairs one evening when me wife and I were watching T.V. This was around 10 in the evening. I watched him walk by us and go into the laundry room. My wife asked me what Aaron was doing. I said he was having a pee. She said , "In the Laundry Room?'. I got up and went in the room and asked "What are you doing?" He said "Nothing". Proceeded to give it a shake with a little shiver then turned around and went back up stairs to bed. He had pissed in all of my wife's baskets that were filled with balls of wool. Thanks for bringing back this memory Gnu. Back to the topic. Beer (adrien) |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: gnu Date: 19 Nov 08 - 07:03 PM I talked to Romeo on the phone in late winter. He seemed fine to me. But, that don't mean squat, even back then... with OldTimers, you can be fine on the phone and piss in the clothes hamper next. |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: Ed T Date: 19 Nov 08 - 06:33 PM http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/sto |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: Ed T Date: 19 Nov 08 - 06:27 PM Does Romeo Leblanc now have Alzheimers? I heard this is so, and that he does not now recognize anyone. |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: gnu Date: 19 Nov 08 - 03:31 PM Another sacrificial lamb... John. |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: Little Hawk Date: 19 Nov 08 - 12:58 PM Back when it was a 3-way race between Brian Mulroney, John Turner, and Ed Broadbent, I envisioned this scene unfolding during one of the televised debates between the 3 candidates: Following a spirited exchange of accusations and counter-accusations between Mulroney and Turner, as Broadbent looks fretfully on waiting for a chance to jump in and score a devastating point, John Turner suddenly loses his temper altogether, points his shaking finger at Brian Mulroney and says, "You, sir, are nothing but a pompous pontificating poseur who has led this country precipitately down the pandering path to perdition...you and your smarmy wife Mila with her perky smile and her phony lively enthusiasm...." At which Mulroney turns white, steps away from his lectern, and advances grimly on Turner, saying, "Don't you DARE say that about my wife, you miserable Liberal scumbag!" As the members of the press stand transfixed in frozen astonishment, Turner and Mulroney leap on each other like mad dogs and roll around on the stage attempting to throttle one another. Microphone stands tumble, feedback screeches from the sound system, and pandemonium ensues. Ed Broadbent rushes forward and attempts to separate the combatants. "Gentlemen!" he blurts, "You forget yourselves! We are on national TV!" Turner and Mulroney release their bulldog grip on one another for an instant, glare at Broadbent with mutual looks of pure hatred, and both of them sieze the NDP politician by the arms, swing him vigorously back, then hurl him bodily off the stage into the orchestra pit! They then resume their violent fisticuffs upon one another careening around the stage and wrecking havoc as studio technicians and a number of RCMP officers storm onstage trying desperately to restore order. At the height of the confusion Ed Broadbent reappears! Leaping back onto the stage, he utters a shrill cry of inarticulate fury and hurls himself upon Mulroney and Broadbent. The three of them fall off the stage in a mingled ball of kicking, gouging, biting, hair-pulling frenzy as the TV screens around the country suddenly go blank and are replaced by..... ****** WE ARE EXPERIENCING TECHNICAL PROBLEMS PLEASE STAND BY ******* Would have made for one hell of a memorable election, wouldn't it? ;-) |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: Cluin Date: 18 Nov 08 - 03:10 PM Old style (medieval) politics, right, gnu? I think Canada's House of Commons could use more fist fights. It always looks so cool when other countries do it. Maybe even old style duels. It might bring the passion and interest back into politics for more Canadians and mean a better turn-out at the ballot box on 'Lection Day. |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: gnu Date: 18 Nov 08 - 02:37 PM Very sad, indeed, Cluin and LH. But, we could elect Dominic. The folk round aboutst where he comes from are "backbone" types... lumber, fishing... If he sold the country down the river or took dirty money, he'd never get taken to court. He'd be stinkin up the pot right quick (lobster bait). |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: Little Hawk Date: 18 Nov 08 - 12:52 PM Yeah, that's it all right. They're in a profession which, by its very nature, is beholden to huge, entrenched special interests. Yet they must attempt to or at least pretend to attempt to represent the common public. This requires an act, one that might be compared to the performances of the Tin Man, the Scarecrow, and the Cowardly Lion...while the Great Oz (a group of rich men in suits) remains forever hidden behind the impenetrable facade of government. It's all rather sad, I think. |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: Cluin Date: 18 Nov 08 - 11:13 AM The trouble with politicians is they play too much politics. |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: gnu Date: 18 Nov 08 - 05:21 AM "If it is party policy, is it a good one?" Don't make no nevermind. Iggy, no matter how much I despise the rat bastard, was following party policy, along with the REST of the party, and Bob takes a hissy fit like a weeny child for a photo-op instead of acting like a gentleman. That don't earn no points wit the girls I goes wit. I wonder.... IF Bob's yer uncle, do you think Stevie and Jack will play up the turncoat issue, thereby attempting to spread mistrust, or go the opposite way in case NDPers might turn their support to a double-agent? Intriguing, no? |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: Little Hawk Date: 18 Nov 08 - 01:57 AM Brian Mulroney's delusions in that respect are, I suppose, as grand as his chin. ;-) Bob Stanfield could sell underwear And Trudeau could certainly swear But Brian Mulroney Just gave us the looney Aside from a lot of hot air Joe Clark had not much of a chin But "Don't worry!" said Brian to him I can take up the slack And lead the attack For mine's long as the road to Berlin |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: Cluin Date: 18 Nov 08 - 01:42 AM The Bloc is another legacy we can thank Lyin' Brian Mulroney for. It was dissatisfaction with the other Federal parties that resulted in the formation of the Bloc, thanks largely to the failing of the Meech Lake Accord. The atomic jawed BM promised Quebeckers something he couldn't deliver: a Constitutional veto on a silver platter. Canada had a rarity... a referendum and spoke out loud and clear: NO vague loopholes to tie the Constitution up in the courts and provide fortunes to lawyers arguing useless points in perpetuity. Separatists ground away on their own hatchets and called it a vote against Quebec, but it wasn't. It was a vote against a lousy package full of vague wording and ill-thought-out compromises. I hear Brian Mulroney still thinks he was the greatest and most-loved PM Canada ever had. |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: Little Hawk Date: 17 Nov 08 - 11:41 PM Dead right, Cluin. It's a whole new ball game now. Quebec no longer controls the agenda as to who becomes the governing party in Canada. For the Liberals the rise of the Bloc must have come as a terrible shock. They used to generally depend on the Quebec vote to give them a solid majority...and it's why they so often went for party leaders who were from Quebec. This resulted in an unhealthy national situation and it caused great resentment of Quebec in English Canada. That wasn't good for Quebec, nor was it good for the rest of the country. |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: Cluin Date: 17 Nov 08 - 06:45 PM Doing shit behind closed doors was what lost the Liberals their #1 spot in Ought Six. I am with Bob on this move. Little Hawk is right about The Bloc. Though lots of people question the "appropriateness" of a federal party which is anti-federal and doesn't run for seats across Canada, it's somewhat good for the rest of Canada. Though it gets Quebec's issues brought forth in the House, and provides Duceppe with a bargaining chip for alliances come MP votin' time, it really does Quebec out of their trad bit of leverage in the Federal elections. As long as Quebeckers vote as a block for the Bloc, they don't get to decide which party forms our government, like they used to with their 75 seats (second only to Ontario's 106). Quebec usually voted almost unilaterally behind one party or another, swinging elections and putting in majority governments. The Bloc will never form a government party; the best it can hope for is Official Opposition (in a set of freaky deaky circumstances) or as moody little brother of a coalition . They have effectively taken themselves out of the equation with the Bloc, re: electing the government. The government is decided by the rest of the provinces... especially Ontario, though that province is quite balkanized in its party support. |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: Little Hawk Date: 17 Nov 08 - 04:36 PM If it is party policy, is it a good one? |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: gnu Date: 17 Nov 08 - 04:05 PM Well, it's party policy, so Bob was just making an ass of himself, again. |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: Little Hawk Date: 17 Nov 08 - 02:18 PM Apropos of the above, Bob Rae apparently walked out of a Liberal Party meeting on the future of the party and the leadership race because Ignatieff insisted that it be held behind closed doors while Rae wanted it conducted with free and open access to the public. I'd have to side with Bob Rae on this one. It doesn't bode well for the Liberal Party. |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: gnu Date: 17 Nov 08 - 05:53 AM That's why it's so important for us to choose our leaders wisely and hold them accountable. The accountability part has been sorely missing. And the lack of voter participation indicates that "wise" choices are not available. Re accountability... not only at the polls, but in the courts. I don't want to get into that, but I am sure a couple of instances come to most Canucks immediately. Especially if you are thinking about a vacation involving flying to a golf resort. |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: Little Hawk Date: 16 Nov 08 - 07:02 PM Mob rule? The will of the common man? Horrors! It sounds too much like...democracy. No, it's much safer to simply place power in the hands of a rich and unnamed elite of bankers and major corporation CEOs, right? ;-) They wouldn't act against the common interests of the ordinary citizens, would they??? |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: gnu Date: 16 Nov 08 - 06:03 PM Well, the avearge Canuck said, "What the fuck? That would be one step away from mob rule." Having the Upper House membership decided on by the general public? Why... the next step would be asking Joe Public to vote on propositions on ballots like they do in The States. Ludicrous beyond all common sense! Remember that dashing young man on the sailing machine? The one that proposed a referendum be granted if 350,000 Canucks signed up? 22 Minutes kicked his ass on behalf of every sane Canuck and Doris had to slink away. Same deal. Mob rule. We have an excellent political system. It shows... well, it did before the politicians got money fever, anyway. Can you say "offshore"? |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: Little Hawk Date: 16 Nov 08 - 05:55 PM And how about that Obama envy, eh? (grin) |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: Little Hawk Date: 16 Nov 08 - 05:55 PM "I never understood how the Conservatives and the Reform Party could ally" Mutual self-interest brought them together. As long as they existed apart it guaranteed that they would both never win another election. The Liberals, who see themselves as "the natural governing party of Canada, haven't become desperate enough yet to resort to the same imperative and form an alliance with the NDP. ;-) As for the NDP, they're already well accustomed to the idea they can't win a federal election, so they're not desperate enough to join with the Liberals either. Not even close. Furthermore, the success of the Bloc Quebecois strictly in Quebec has thrown a new wrinkle into the equation that none of the old parties had anticipated. The Liberals always counted on Quebec to tip the balance and get them elected, but with the Bloc doing well in Quebec, that gambit doesn't work anymore. |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: Cluin Date: 16 Nov 08 - 03:37 PM What ever happened to the Senate Reform the now-Conservatives were so big on a few years ago? (I never understood how the Conservatives and the Reform Party could ally... Aren't those two party's ideals mutually exclusive? Then again the term Progressive Conservative is kind of an oxymoron.) |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: gnu Date: 15 Nov 08 - 01:17 PM Senators... NB 8, NS 7, PEI 3, NF 5. Total is 94. 20% from The Maritimes. 25% from Atlantic Canada. Of course, they are all c... politicians too. |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: gnu Date: 15 Nov 08 - 01:04 PM Biography The Rt. Hon. Romeo LeBlanc was appointed Speaker of the Senate on 7 December 1993. He resigned as Speaker and from the Senate on his appointment as Governor General, an office he assumed on 8 February 1995. Senator LeBlanc was born at L'Anse-aux-Cormier, Memramcook, New Brunswick on 18 December 1927. He was educated at St. Joseph University and the University of Paris. Early on in his career he worked as a journalist and then taught for a few years at Moncton's teachers college. In 1959 he returned to journalism, signing on as the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (Radio Canada) correspondent for New Brunswick and later working in the Ottawa bureau before winning postings as a foreign correspondent in first London and then Washington. Senator LeBlanc's political career began in 1967 when Prime Minister Pearson called on him to serve as his Press Secretary. He stayed on in this position when Pierre Eliot Trudeau replaced Mr. Pearson as leader of the Liberal Party and as Prime Minister in 1968. In 1972 he successfully ran for the Liberals in the New Brunswick riding of Westmoreland-Kent, a riding he continued to represent until 1984. As Minister of Fisheries in three of Prime Minister Trudeau's cabinets, he was responsible for extending Canada's coastal fishing zone from 12 to 200 miles. He also served as Minister of the Environment when this responsibility was grouped with Fisheries, and as Minister of Public Works. Senator LeBlanc was summoned to the Senate in June 1984 on the eve of the general elections. He was elected Chairman of the Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration in 1988 at the beginning of the 1st Session of the 34th Parliament. He also sat on the Foreign Affairs Committee and on the Sub-Committee on Security and National Defence and was a member of the Canada-France Parliamentary Association and the International Association of French-speaking Parliamentarians. He was appointed Speaker on 7 December 1993. After less than a year in office, he resigned as Speaker and from the Senate on his appointment as Governor General, a post which he held until October 1999. |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: gnu Date: 15 Nov 08 - 01:03 PM Weird! When I paste it in here, it changes the addy when I post it. |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: gnu Date: 15 Nov 08 - 01:01 PM http://www.parl.gc.ca/information/about/people/key/SP-BL/sen/index.asp?Language=E¶m=1&id=401 |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: gnu Date: 15 Nov 08 - 01:00 PM It works when I test it....???? |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: gnu Date: 15 Nov 08 - 12:59 PM Try again. |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: gnu Date: 15 Nov 08 - 12:58 PM Oh!! Got a PM. Sorry.... Dom's Dad |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: Bob the Postman Date: 14 Nov 08 - 04:38 PM Except he's real smart. More like Cheney Canada, perhaps. |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: gnu Date: 14 Nov 08 - 01:54 PM Yessiree, Bob. That last minute score after the goalie was pulled was a hell of a surprise. If anyone thinks Stevie is sucking up and Brian sold us down the river, just watch the Yankee Canuck if he gets in... Liberal my ass! I think he should be sent packing back to where he really comes from. Ahhh... for our Yankee brothers and sisters, that is not in any way a slight on youse. Easiest way to explain the feelings of many Canucks about Iggy is... Bush of the North. |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: Bob the Postman Date: 14 Nov 08 - 11:19 AM Last time around the Liberal Party Of Canada was given a choice between a Canadian who wasn't really a Liberal and a Liberal who wasn't really a Canadian. It surprised everyone, including itself, by choosing a Canadian Liberal. But this time around I'm betting on the Liberal who isn't really a Canadian. He's the one who had originally been decided upon in hushed conversations between comfy armchairs in the Rideau Club reading room. As for Chongo, why would he want to be P. M.? Chongo Messy already has the most important job in Canada, host of CBC Radio's flagship programme. Besides, the darn chimp can't even spell his own name. |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: gnu Date: 14 Nov 08 - 08:09 AM Ya know... I just thought... Dom's old man's name is Roméo-ADRIEN... hmmmmmmm. |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: gnu Date: 14 Nov 08 - 07:49 AM Weasel One, Weasel Two and Dominic.... I'm tellin ya... as it stands right now... Dominic. I'll bet his old man is on the phone constantly, between naps. |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: Cluin Date: 13 Nov 08 - 07:04 PM There's Bob Rae. (ya, like THAT's gonna happen) |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: Beer Date: 13 Nov 08 - 06:59 PM Yep!, but who? At the moment Iggy is going to take it hands down. |
Subject: RE: BS: Canuck Liberal Party Leader... who? From: Cluin Date: 13 Nov 08 - 06:55 PM The Liberal party, more than any other, needs a STRONG leader to keep those chaotic buggers in line. |