BS: Winter election in Canuckville???

Subject: RE: BS: Winter election in Canuckville???
From: hesperis
Date: 28 Nov 05 - 10:50 AM

I hope it's not a winter election because I haven't been paying attention to Canadian politics for a while and don't have time to get up to speed.

Maybe there should be a Mudcat party.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter election in Canuckville???
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 07:16 PM

In a way, I am fortunate that there is a person of excellent reputation who shall be running in my riding, now that the Hon Claudette Bradshaw (Liberal, cabinet minister, and also of excellent reputation) has chosen not to re-offer. I have no problem with whom I shall vote for, since I am keeping my vote consideration at the local level.

Now, if we actually had to cast a direct vote on who should lead our wonderful country (both party and person), it would be a matter of voting in whom I would feel would do the least amount of harm, as opposed to the most amount of good. That happens to be Mr Paul Martin, who, as I luck (?) would have it, is the leader of the party for the local guy that I plan to vote for.

It is a shame that I have the mindset of voting for the lesser of the evils, if I look at this whole thing for the big picture that it truly is. I do look forward to the future, hopefully seeing Peter McKay from Nova Scotia and Frank McKenna from New Brunswick leading their respective parties. Maybe a little input from the Maritime provinces can put forward more of a national focus, at least more so than the mindless "Vote-for-me, cuz-they-cheat-and-are-mean-and-Gomery-and-such" agenda from a certain wanna-be-cowboy from Alberta.

Brian

Subject: RE: BS: Winter election in Canuckville???
From: Peace
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 06:35 PM

Gonna be trudging through snow to go to the poll. Idiots. The lot of them. And, the choices are bleak.

Registered Political Parties

Bloc Québécois

Canadian Action Party

Christian Heritage Party of Canada

Communist Party of Canada

Conservative Party of Canada

Green Party of Canada

Liberal Party of Canada

Libertarian Party of Canada

Marijuana Party

Marxist-Leninist Party of Canada

New Democratic Party

Progressive Canadian Party

Subject: RE: BS: Winter election in Canuckville???
From: dianavan
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 02:49 PM

Cluin and Peter T. -

I don't really understand why you think siding with the Conservatives, at this time, is suicide. Somehow, I don't think it makes any difference one way or another if the Liberals stay in office.

If on the other hand, the Conservatives manage to gain power because the NDP backed their call for an elections, I will be furious.

Do you really think the Conservatives have a chance? I think people will be so put off by a winter election that they will vote Liberal just to spite the Conservatives. I hope so.

As to the NDP, they have never been anything more than an effective (ineffective) opposition at the federal level. Maybe thats what you're saying, that backing a new election is an ineffective move. I guess I'd have to agree because I certainly do not want to see Harper as PM of Canada. What a nightmare!

Subject: RE: BS: Winter election in Canuckville???
From: Mooh
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 09:24 AM

If a winter election keeps the bastards off my doorstep, then all the better. Mooh.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter election in Canuckville???
From: Peter T.
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 11:32 PM

Cluin is right, Layton is wrong: his current situation is the best deal he will ever get, period. Like the Conseervatives he probably got fed up, and decided that he didn't want the Liberals to be able to choose everything, but it is still a mistake.   

yours,

Peter T.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter election in Canuckville???
From: Cluin
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 10:53 PM

That's not a deal. That's suicide.

The NDP in bed with the CRAP party? Strange bedfellows indeed.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter election in Canuckville???
From: dianavan
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 10:50 PM

I think Layton said he would not force the election but if the Conservatives did, he would back them.

He tried to make a couple of education and health care deals with the Liberals but the Liberals didn't buy it. Layton can go either way, whoever offers the best deals. The NDP will never be elected so their only power is in making deals. They are in a good position to do that and are making the best of it.

No deal? O.K. Lets have an election.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter election in Canuckville???
From: Peace
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 10:21 PM

Maybe Layton has made a deal with the other parties.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter election in Canuckville???
From: Cluin
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 07:49 PM

The one I don't understand is Jack Layton. How does he figure to better his position by pushing for an election now? He's in the strongest position now his party has held in many years.

Easy to see why Harper and his Reform loonies want another election whenever and wherever (though this is Harper's last chance to win before his party boots his ass off the top of the heap with Peter MacKay panting at his heels; that's why he stuck around) and Duceppe can't either better or worsen his status (though the Bloc shouldn't even be allowed to run as a Federal party anyway).

Yes, the Liberals have been in too long. Unfortunately there is no alternative. I wish there was. I might even vote old style PC. But not for the rabble of right wing wacko malcontents that is passing for Conservative now. Besides, just as much corruption occured under the Tories in the past.

But I figure Layton only stands to lose NDP seats by pushing for an election now. Martin said he would call an election after the final Gomery report in February. Gives Canada a better picture of what went on and sets us up for an election in spring. And Layton could then at least say he didn't send Canadians to the polls at Christmas time.

Well, party politics stinks anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter election in Canuckville???
From: Peace
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 04:16 PM

OK. But now we know who the Grinch really is.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter election in Canuckville???
From: gnu
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 12:58 PM

Youse guys and most Canucks. A political campaign over Christmas?

Idiot!!

Subject: RE: BS: Winter election in Canuckville???
From: bobad
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 12:53 PM

My sentiment exactly, even the mudslinging has become tedious and predictable, I am going to tune this one out as much as is possible.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter election in Canuckville???
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 12:42 PM

This gets one big yawn from me. How tedious.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter election in Canuckville???
From: Metchosin
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 11:27 AM

I don't see any Merkins to the right or left on this thread. Did something get deleted?

Subject: RE: BS: Winter election in Canuckville???
From: Paul Burke
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 10:04 AM

I've never known why anyone needed them.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter election in Canuckville???
From: Peace
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 10:02 AM

Wot's a merkin?

Subject: RE: BS: Winter election in Canuckville???
From: gnu
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 06:30 AM

Oops. My comment about Stever being a "Liberal in wolf's clothing was not aimed at political philosophy or corruption. Rather, it was meant to imply that by forcing a winter election, they are pissing people off and, more importantly, if the weather is poor on election day, the voting results may be swayed, probably toward the Liberals. He is certainly not gaining favour with anyone I know.

What are the chances of poor weather in The Great White North in the dead of winter? Even if it's sunny, for eight hours at most, on election day, the whole length of the country, it has been known to be a tad chilly, icy, slushy, windy, F***ING COLD, in some parts. Heck, the army might be shovelling out Tronna.

Idiot!!

Subject: RE: BS: Winter election in Canuckville???
From: Peter T.
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 05:46 AM

The real election will be between the puritanical streak in the Canadian psyche and the pragmatic streak. Stephen Harper with those blue eyes and the prissy mouth may convince the voters to throw out the Liberal bastards, and then "shrink government" by eviscerating the federal system, which is the main aim of rightwing Tory life. Or, the voters may decide that Canada is an organized system of mutual bribery anyway, and the rest is the usual hypocrisy, and vote the Liberals back in.

The whole thing is ridiculous. The only people who will win will be the Parti Quebecois and the Alberta First crowd who will be able to say I told you so as the country perishes.

At least that is what it says here in my book.

yours,

Peter T.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter election in Canuckville???
From: Paul Burke
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 05:09 AM

What is it you extreme rightwing Merkins have against Canada? Is it because they make you look nearly as bad as you are?

Subject: RE: BS: Winter election in Canuckville???
From: Metchosin
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 02:47 AM

Or perhaps more appropriately, "God help us, every one."

Subject: RE: BS: Winter election in Canuckville???
From: Peace
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 01:51 AM

LOL

Subject: RE: BS: Winter election in Canuckville???
From: Metchosin
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 01:51 AM

Bah! Humbug!

Subject: RE: BS: Winter election in Canuckville???
From: Peace
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 01:20 AM

Alberta is just the opposite. It doesn't matter who is in power, they always re-elect them.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter election in Canuckville???
From: dianavan
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 01:18 AM

We all know whats happening anyway. Bush has sent his neo-conservative think tank to Canada. They have headquarters in Ontario, Alberta (Lethbridge?) and now Langley, B.C. They are busy forming a fundamentalist coalition. Now that the Liberals have blown it with 'pork barreling', they actually have a very good chance of being elected.

Sad to say that our wonderful Vancouver City Council and Mayor, School Trustees and Parks Board have all been ousted by right leaning parties. I have a hard time understanding why. It was a very functional city government who actually accomplished many, many community projects. Its frightening to think of a city government aligned with the criminals in Victoria and now, maybe Ottawa, too.

Sometimes you just have to shake your head and walk away.

The voters in B.C. are so wierd. Doesn't matter who is in power, they always vote them out. I think everybody just hates politicians, period, and its just their way of saying the whole process stinks.

If Harper becomes Prime Minister, I'm dropping out for the second time. The first time was because of Nixon.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Conservatives (I actually liked Joe Clark) but Harper is another animal. I hope the public can see through him but I fear its a choice between the devil and the deep blue sea.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter election in Canuckville???
From: Peace
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 11:39 PM

If we don't have the elections in winter, gnu, then that leaves only the two weeks of summer in July.

Subject: BS: Winter election in Canuckville???
From: gnu
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 03:50 PM

Good lord!!! What are they thinking? Steve and his bunch ain't that bright, but... a winter election? IT IS CANADA. WINTER ELECTIONS CAN HAVE PROBLEMS YA TWIT!!!! Seriously, what the heck is wrong with these idiots? Or, are they all liberals in wolf's clothing?