Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: Maryrrf Date: 24 Aug 03 - 09:47 AM This thread got me thinking - I love pina coladas but almost never order them because they're really, really fattening. They're made with coconut milk which is a caloric disaster, plus lots of sugar. I froze some pineapple (I used canned because that's what I had on hand)then put some of that in the blender along with non fat yogurt and a little coconut extract. I added a few packets of Equal (sugar substitute) Well it came out delicious - very similar to a pina colada. I experimented by making another one and adding a frozen banana to the mix and it came out even better. I didn't bother about adding alcohol because it's the creaminess, the frostiness and the flavor of the pineapple and coconut that I like, but I suppose you could add alcohol to the lo cal version. |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: Rapparee Date: 23 Aug 03 - 10:56 AM Ya want a smoothie? Try blending strawberries, banannas, and orange juice. No ice, if you want it cold chill the ingredients. This is being a REAL purist. (Oh, yeah, a splash of 151 proof rum, or just regular rum, can add a whole new dimension to it.) |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: John MacKenzie Date: 23 Aug 03 - 09:50 AM Being a mere old European, I've never had the pleasure of consuming one of these, but here's a recipe I found. 1 1/4 cups orange juice 1 cup water 3 tablespoons egg white or egg substitute 1 teaspoon vanilla extract 1/4 cup sugar 1 1/2 cups ice Combine all of the ingredients except ice in a blender and blend on high speed for 15-30 seconds or until the sugar is dissolved. Add the ice and blend for another 10 to 15 seconds or so, until ice is mostly crushed yet still a bit coarse. (http://www.topsecretrecipes.com) Makes 2 16-ounce drinks. Giok |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: EBarnacle1 Date: 23 Aug 03 - 09:31 AM When I first dropped in at the Orange Julius stand on 8th Street, I was told that the company originated in California. There was an earlier stand in The City around midtown. It was a real hole in the wall store. |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: Mark Cohen Date: 23 Aug 03 - 12:48 AM OK, OK, so maybe I was wrong about the malt. Sosumi! [insert silly smiley face thing here] Aloha, Mark PS, speaking of silly smiley face things, I recently discovered Dave Barry's Useful Internet Emoticons--which I like almost as much as a milkshake, in case someone was going to accuse me of thread creep! |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: Kelly Date: 22 Aug 03 - 12:40 PM Ely, shoot up here to Dallas. There's an Orange Julius just north of here in Lewisville. |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: Charlie Baum Date: 22 Aug 03 - 12:33 PM The soda fountain in the drug store next to where I went to high school also used to make "dusty sundaes"--a scoop of ice cream (vanilla as the default) topped with a spoonful or two of malt (cherry optional). It was a neat soda fountain that made everything to order and allowed creativity on the part of patrons as long as they were willing to pay for it. I've been told that Mrs. Arthur Miller (a/k/a Marilyn Monroe) used to hang out at the sode fountain a decade before I got there, but that's another story... --Charlie Baum |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: Ely Date: 22 Aug 03 - 12:20 PM My aunt makes juliuses--the powder is probably some sort of dehydrated milk or milk/egg combo (I know she uses milk, I forget if she uses egg or not). We don't have Orange Julius in Houston. I sure miss them. |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: GUEST,MMario Date: 22 Aug 03 - 10:46 AM Ron - it seems to be a little of both. I've tasted soap that tastes better to me than malted milk. But I also get "hangovers" from it. |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: GUEST,Kim C no cookie Date: 22 Aug 03 - 10:36 AM Ooops. Sorry about that. If there's malt in a Julius, they sure do cover up the taste of it. They make them in other flavors now besides orange, but I'm a purist. |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: GUEST,Kim C no cookie Date: 22 Aug 03 - 10:34 AM |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: WFDU - Ron Olesko Date: 22 Aug 03 - 10:24 AM That is interesting. Is it an allergy or just a taste issue? I'm curious because I have a similar issue with certain fruit. I just can't stomach eating bananas, but I love them if they are blended in a smoothie. |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: GUEST,MMario Date: 22 Aug 03 - 10:21 AM beer/ale is the only thing I can stomach that contains malt! On *very* rare occasions malted milk balls - but then I am usually so sick the next day that I don't touch them again for five or six years...I can gag down a chocolate malt if I have to...but *shudder* GAG down is exactly it... Guiness shakes aren't bad... |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: WFDU - Ron Olesko Date: 22 Aug 03 - 10:03 AM MMario - sorry to hear about your aversion to malt!! I love the stuff in all forms - from shakes to beer! It really turns a choclate shake into something special. Hmmm...that gives me an idea - beer, ice cream, blender - on second thought maybe not. |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: Kelly Date: 22 Aug 03 - 09:33 AM I'm a bigger fan of the smoothie than the shake. Gimme a Strawberry Dream any day! (Papaya juice, cuppa strawberries, half a banana and ice! *purr*) |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: GUEST,MMario Date: 22 Aug 03 - 09:26 AM BTW - just noticed Fred Miller's comment heck I'm a pedant? and here I thought I was just an a**hole! but cherrystone clams are still quahogs. |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: GUEST,MMario Date: 22 Aug 03 - 09:17 AM I've watched orange julius' being made - it's pure oj, crushed ice and some of their "special powder" - which is a very fine grained white powder of some sort. The recipes I've seen on the web (and have used); mix powdered sugar with powdered egg whites to make the 'julius' powder. It sure seems to give the drink the same 'mouth feel' and taste as the commercial ones. I don't believe the bit about malt - malt usually makes me sick to my stomach... |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: Hrothgar Date: 22 Aug 03 - 06:42 AM You Americans sure talk funny. |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: Mark Cohen Date: 22 Aug 03 - 04:57 AM Amos, I'll give you a hint: "No soap, radio." Aloha, Mark |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: Amos Date: 21 Aug 03 - 09:22 PM Mark: I am missing something....the word Julius, in my mind, has no association with malt except for the one you just proposed. Whence therefore the proposition that is "why they call it Julius"?? A |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: Mark Cohen Date: 21 Aug 03 - 09:12 PM An Orange Julius has malt in it. That's why they call it Julius. (I haven't seen the website, but if they don't mention malt, then they're lying, to protect their trade secret.) I believe the first Orange Julius I ever had was in Greenwich Village. And Ron, I did have an eggcream in Philly...but it was made for me in 1963 by my friend Andy Rosen, who grew up in Brooklyn (and was therefore an L.A. Dodger fan). Aloha, Mark |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: Ely Date: 21 Aug 03 - 07:40 PM I read somewhere about a milkshake recipe that involved milk, ice cream, and instant Jell-O pudding, but I don't recall the proportions (might help with the fat content, though). I'm lazy--I just go to Denny's. I thought the ones with eggs were "egg creams" but I'm not from that part of the country so I'm probably wrong. |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: Mudlark Date: 21 Aug 03 - 06:34 PM Liz...your blender, or mine? re cabinet: in both Sp. and Fr. it also means taxi...maybe only cabbies, at one time, knew where these things were made...Psssst, hey, buddy...you like egg in your milkshake? Amos: no, not related to water closet...and don't call me surely! Best cooler on a hot summer day...a rootbeer freeze from Foster's! |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: WFDU - Ron Olesko Date: 21 Aug 03 - 05:09 PM I read their website and while they don't mention egg white, I wouldn't be surprised if it is included in their proprietary "smoother". I would guess they would have to make mention of eggs since some people are either allergic or do not include them in their diet. |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: Maryrrf Date: 21 Aug 03 - 04:57 PM I like the ice cream idea better than the powdered egg white. Think I'll try that one. |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: GUEST,Kim C no cookie Date: 21 Aug 03 - 04:15 PM I thought they made them with vanilla soft-serve... which is probably made of powdered egg whites. ;-) Anyhow try the vanilla ice cream & orange juice thing. You can also frappe that in a blender and it tastes like one of those Dreamsicle things. Amaretto and hot milk..... gosh that sounds good... |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: GUEST Date: 21 Aug 03 - 03:46 PM basically powedered egg white, orange juice and ice. |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: Maryrrf Date: 21 Aug 03 - 03:41 PM What goes into a real Orange Julius? It's been years since I had one and now I want one. |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: Amos Date: 21 Aug 03 - 12:39 PM ONe amaretto, with Siena, please -- never mind, I'll drink it there! A |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: Peter T. Date: 21 Aug 03 - 12:06 PM Speaking of opposites, the best drink on a cold day (winter is coming, damn it) is the Italian specialty, amaretto and hot milk. Of course it helps if you have Siena wrapped around it, but it works everywhere pretty well. yours, Peter T. |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: GUEST,MMario Date: 21 Aug 03 - 11:52 AM this is the only comment I have been able to find on 'cabinet' It is thought to be called a "cabinet" because its unknown originator kept his blender in a kitchen cabinet. Also mixers were often stored in square wooden cabinets. I wonder though - given that Rhode Island has had at time heavy influxes of Cape Verdeans and Portuguese whether it might be a loan-word corrupted out of recognition? |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: John MacKenzie Date: 21 Aug 03 - 11:48 AM Amos don't you mean Water Closet Handy, the guy who wrote St Louis Blues? Giok |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: WFDU - Ron Olesko Date: 21 Aug 03 - 11:30 AM oooo Kim... you reminded me of Orange Julius! When I was working in the city I would frequent the stand in Times Square. They have become a franchise and you can find them in malls, but it misses the ambiance of the city! |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: Amos Date: 21 Aug 03 - 10:27 AM I understand why these blended drinks could be called frappes. Bu8t where did the term "cabinet" come from? Not related to water closet, surely? (Not Water Closet Shirley, the nineteenth-century infamous gang leader and suffragette-cum-bank robber?) A |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: GUEST,Kim C no cookie Date: 21 Aug 03 - 10:23 AM See, MMario, in the South, everything's a Coke. I used to call everything a Coke until one day I realized that was kind of silly. So then I started calling it soda, and then people accused me of not being Southern. (the nerve! I like my cornbread sweet too.) So now I just say "cold drink." As in, "sugar, would you like a cold drink?" I worked in ice cream for years and the standard milkshake was 2 scoops ice cream, 2 squirts syrup, and milk. Bananas have the odd effect of making a milkshake watery. One of my favorite ice cream treats, though, is the Orange Julius. I make a bastardized version of it at home by putting a scoop and a half of vanilla ice cream (Breyer's vanilla bean is best) in a highball glass, and covering it with orange juice. Pineapple juice is good too. Don't knock it till you try it. |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: WFDU - Ron Olesko Date: 21 Aug 03 - 10:20 AM Spaw, I've never had a chocolate coke. I must have led a sheltered life. Being a chocolate addict, it does intrigue me. What is it? Do they still make Fresca??? |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: Rapparee Date: 21 Aug 03 - 10:13 AM Except that this boy from the Midwest grew up not calling it "pop," but "so-dee" like everyone else for miles around. When, that is, you didn't call it "Coke" or "Pepsi" or "Duble Cola" or "Royal Crown" or "RC" or "Seven Up" or "rut beer" or "Doctir Pepper" or "Nehi" or "Yoohoo" or "Oranj Crush" or whatever. |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: catspaw49 Date: 21 Aug 03 - 10:08 AM Sorry Ron, but your taste buds are failing you! I bet you don't like Chocolate Cokes either huh? Personally, I have always preferred pops with a capability to remove paint as they produce the best gas as well......Dr. Pepper, Vernor's Ginger Ale, and of course the gassiest pop of all time, Nehi Orange. Spaw |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: GUEST,MMario Date: 21 Aug 03 - 09:43 AM one nation seperated by a common language! I like that... I know the word 'roof' has at least three distinct pronounciations depending on where you are in the US. |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: GUEST,Fred Miller Date: 21 Aug 03 - 09:35 AM My theory is if you don't know about the calories, they have nothing to hang on to and don't add up. Kind of like if you drive fast enough under a bridge it won't notice you don't have clearance. MMario you're a pedant, guy. With root beer coming up again, now there's the whole "float" "black cow" thing to settle. As far as I know the black cow is just mixed as opposed to the float. This vice has a lot of potential, but it's beginning to seem complicated. I'm thinking I should have a simpler one to fall back on. |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: WFDU - Ron Olesko Date: 21 Aug 03 - 09:19 AM Dr. Pepper and ice cream? Ugggh! Dr.Pepper may be good for removing paint, but as a base for an ice cream soda - please!! Root Beer has the right properties for an ice cream soda - nice mellow base that blends well with the creamy ice cream. Coca Cola can be good, but it can be harsh and it clashes. It is also impossible to get a proper egg cream outside of the NYC area. Egg Creams were born and raised in Brooklyn and they don't travel well! |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: EBarnacle1 Date: 21 Aug 03 - 08:58 AM The line about egg creams used to be that they were called Egg Creams because they had no eggs and no cream in 'em. |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: GUEST,MMario Date: 21 Aug 03 - 08:35 AM Mark has it right about 'tonic' - though in my hometown everything was a 'coke'..The question immediately following a positive response to 'Do you want a coke?' would be 'What flavour?' |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: catspaw49 Date: 21 Aug 03 - 06:16 AM It's worse than GBS thought......We are one "nation" separated by a common language! Interesting history on the aig kreem......Never knew that at one point they really did have eggs in them. Now my personal favorite fountain drink (outside of a chocolate Coke) is a Coke float. Go heavy on the ice cream and mash it into the Coke really well instead of eating it.....Gives you thie great tasting carbonated milkshake like thing. Also great with Root Beer of course and with Dr. Pepper is outright orgasmic!!! Spaw |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: Mark Cohen Date: 21 Aug 03 - 05:22 AM Well, 'Spaw, that's not bad for an Ohioan. But an eggcream is composed of seltzer, milk, and U-Bet chocolate syrup. (At least, that's what this Philadelphia boy learned from a New Yorker--ain't no eggcreams in Philly, but we do know how to spell 'em). One eggcream recipe. And "soda" is Coke, ginger ale, 7-Up, Frank's Black Cherry Wishniak, Dr. Brown's Cel-Ray, whatever. When you put a scoop of ice cream in a tall tapered glass partly filled with soda, you get an "ice cream soda." The classic "black and white" is chocolate flavored soda and vanilla ice cream. I always preferred a "white and black": vanilla cream soda (in Philly we had Frank's, in NY they had Dr. Brown's) with chocolate ice cream. And as Mmario will tell you, people in Aloha, Mark |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: John MacKenzie Date: 21 Aug 03 - 04:32 AM When I was a child in Glasgow all fizzy drinks of the soda variety were called Ginger, hence the following exchange. Haw ther mister can a hae a bottle o Ginger? Aye son, whit flavour dae ye want? Another great Glaswegian anomoly is the habit of calling male strangers Jimmy. Thus Hello ther' Jimmy, whit's yer name? Funny old world isn't it? Giok |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: catspaw49 Date: 21 Aug 03 - 04:15 AM Look Mark, they can't be "tonics" as the liquid ingredient for many years was known as "soda water." So a tonic is a tonic water and "Pop" is actually short for "Soda Pop" which makes sense since we all know a "Soda" is really an Egg Creme with a couple of scoops of ice cream in it. Now if I could just figure out why there are no eggs in an Egg Creme, all would be right with the world. Spaw |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: Mark Cohen Date: 21 Aug 03 - 03:51 AM My dad always added a raw egg. Of course, that was in the days before most eggs were infected with Salmonella, courtesy of your favorite agribusiness conglomerate. Mmario, you probably think that those flavored carbonated drinks like Coca-Cola and 7Up are called "tonic," when we all know they're called "soda." Except those in the Midwest and West, who say "pop"--but what do they know? Aloha, Mark |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: sian, west wales Date: 20 Aug 03 - 03:24 PM If you can get it, add "Star Kay White's Pure Chocolate Extract" ... "A unique, natural chocolate extract created from a special blend of fresh roasted cocoa beans using a process and formula developed over a century ago". It's killer chocolate flavouring -like good vanilla essence, but chocolagte - which I get over here from Lakeland Plastics. A quick whiff of it is chocoholic heaven ... sian |
Subject: RE: BS: how you make a milkshake From: Charlie Baum Date: 20 Aug 03 - 02:22 PM In Massachusetts, "milkshakes contain no ice cream; if you want ice-cream added, you order a "frappe." The drink made with milk, ice cream, and syrup was called a "cabinet" in Rhode Island, and was called a "frosted" in Connecticut, where I grew up. The rest of the country called them "milkshakes" or perhaps "malts," though a malted milk required the addition of malt when I grew up. These regional distinctions have probbaly become homogenized as milk in the new era where nobody is from anywhere in particular. --Charlie Baum |