BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Feb 10 - 12:58 PM

No, no, no, WavyFWBR...........I am here for the duration.   As long as you continue to repeatedly post your gawdawful bullshit posing as poetry, I will be along to comment on your efforts. Note that what you post certainly comes under the heading of "doggerel"................

trite, cliché, or overly sentimental content
forced or imprecise rhymes
faulty meter
misordering of words to force correct meter
trivial subject
inept handling of subject

You need to also know that you have said nothing except to reenforce the statements below:

--Your "poetry" sucks.
--It has been posted repeatedly before.
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements.
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile.
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.

AND PLEASE.....Don't tell me you want Mudcat to host your crap. Unfortunately we already do.................


Spaw


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 02 Feb 10 - 10:26 AM

Sean - realistically, I'm heavily against the status quo...can we agree on that?

You are one individual who thinks the rest of the world is out of step.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Feb 10 - 09:26 AM

Complete with adverts, sorry, the e-scroll version is, for now, back on -
http://walkaboutsverse.741.com

Sean - realistically, I'm heavily against the status quo...can we agree on that?

CatSpaw - get back to your kitty litter.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Feb 10 - 09:19 AM

My gawd Amos......A perfect summation from Wiki! WavyFWBR is the world's greatest purveyor of doggerel...

trite, cliché, or overly sentimental content
forced or imprecise rhymes
faulty meter
misordering of words to force correct meter
trivial subject
inept handling of subject

Fits him perfectly and he proves it as he posts even more today! Sorrowfully it also fits what we've been saying as well:

--Your "poetry" sucks.
--It has been posted repeatedly before.
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements.
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile.
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 02 Feb 10 - 09:12 AM

me, "Mr. Realism",

At least you do a fine line in irony, WAV - at least I hope & pray that it's irony...

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Feb 10 - 05:50 AM

Amos - me, "Mr. Realism", overly sentimental?!

Thanks for telling me, S., as I don't check it that often - seems this free-host has become a pay-only host...back to the drawing board for another e-scroll host!..I used to use 741.com..?

(IF A MODERATOR READS THIS, PLEASE DELETE JUST THE SITEGOZ LINK ON THE FIRST POST OF THIS THREAD...AND, IF YOU REMEMBER MY E-SCROLL, COULD YOU HOST IT HERE FOR ME?)

Pleased to hear, yesterday, that Obama's Democrats have decided to scrap another mission to the Moon...

Poem 79 of 230: PIE IN THE SKY?

From our early childhood,
    We're taught to glorify
Conquering the Earth's neighbourhood -
    Shouldn't we question why?

Satellites can aid sibling-hood,
    But some missions could buy
A start for millions to make good -
    Is Mars "pie in the sky"?

From http://blogs.myspace.com/walkaboutsverse (e-book)
(C) David Franks 2003

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: mandotim
Date: 02 Feb 10 - 05:25 AM

Perhaps the internet has suddenly passed the Turing test, and developed good taste?

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 02 Feb 10 - 05:05 AM

forced or imprecise rhymes
faulty metre
misordering of words to force correct meter

That does seem to some up the WAV approach to poetry - and this from from a man who has the temerity to berate the likes of Ezra Pound for their free verse abominations. I tried to access the WAV site for the relevant info but SiteGoz.com isn't letting me through. What's up, WAV?

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: Amos
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 06:29 PM

Wikipedia doth pronounce:

Doggerel might have any or all of the following failings:
trite, cliché, or overly sentimental content
forced or imprecise rhymes
faulty metre
misordering of words to force correct meter
trivial subject
inept handling of subject

Ahmmmmm.....

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 05:08 PM

Okay, RalphIe.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 03:18 PM

WAV
No thanks.
I know all about Bert and the Fagans. I very much doubt if you could add anything of interest. (Indeed, about them, or anybody else).
In fact, I doubt if you could find anything of interest to me at all.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 12:17 PM

There's the Fagan family, and Bert Lloyd, too; and, if you'd like to hear some excellent Aboriginal music, see the 2nd line of my myspace Top Friends.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: s&r
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 11:02 AM

Apologies to Martin W R

Stu

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 10:34 AM

Stu

"As far as I know there is no-one here who claims particular expertise in that area."

Not on here perhaps. But, check out Martyn Whyndam Read's Songlink projects.
One is Anglo/American, and the other is Anglo/Australian, both of which explore how songs have migrated around the world.
I think WAV would be hard pressed to rival such projects.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 10:19 AM

There's an "Aussie Glossary" if you click on the arrowhead, atop, Stu.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: s&r
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 10:13 AM

Mr Innes (Australia's race relations commissioner) says what Australia needs is a strong multicultural policy to address these issues.

"Multiculturalism has fallen off the agenda in the last 10 or 12 years and we need the government to come forward with a strong multicultural policy and with strong moral leadership that challenges racism."

Sounds fair to me.

Sean's suggestion of researching Anglo Australian folk music and song seems a good idea to me. It could be that you can contribute something of value to this forum. As far as I know there is no-one here who claims particular expertise in that area.

Stu

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 09:42 AM

...yes, joking apart, Ralphie.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 09:39 AM

A brief precis WAV old chap.

"Are you a computer program trying to pass the Turing test?...(I've already tured through about 40 countries, thanks.)"

"The Turing test is a proposal for a test of a machine's ability to demonstrate intelligence. It proceeds as follows: a human judge engages in a natural language conversation with one human and one machine, each of which tries to appear human. All participants are placed in isolated locations. If the judge cannot reliably tell the machine from the human, the machine is said to have passed the test. In order to test the machine's intelligence rather than its ability to render words into audio, the conversation is limited to a text-only channel such as a computer keyboard and screen."

Does that make sense? It's certainly not about going for a walk.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 09:31 AM

False accusation, Sean - I never say/post anything racist; I just keep questioning immigration and imperialism, themselves.

Otherwise, nothing new there - except you much prefer your own music to mine...and there's one question: no, joking apart, I see myself as an English repat, and am happy with my English repertoire, which I keep working at.

Yes, the 5th would be good - then give your email to Michael, for the mailing list, as there have been some cancellations - basically, rock/pop gigs overriding us, even though it's meant to be every Friday now.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 08:51 AM

Sean didn't ask a questioin this time - he merely repeated the same false accusation.

Oblivious to cultural process, you resort to the mantra repetition of your own misconceptions, which would be fair enough if you didn't publish them. The accusations are not false, David; you mire yourself in a world view that is entirely racist, and reactionary to the point of inert.

What would you do with an empty church?...sing in my counter-tenor-ish Church voice.

Please, David - anything but that. Whilst I applaud your Cob a Coaling, you've ruined for me entirely When I Survey the Wondrous Cross. So please, just walk around - savour the peace & the silent ambience. That said, when faced with an empty church myself I switch on my Zoom H4 and whip out a Jew's Harp to capture the essence of said peace. See HERE, particularly track #1, recorded on the morning of 20th August last year when I had the Chapter House of York Minster all to myself. As well as the Jew's Harp, you can hear my camera as I explore the Devil in the Details such as THIS, which is a close-up THIS.

Do people avoid you at parties?...quite a few folk-singarounds the last few years, but few parties.

That's sad. I never avoid David - as he'll testify. Whatever spats we have here, I'll always be happy to extend the open hand of friendship should ever our paths cross, as they occasionally do in a North East of England folky context. Talking of which - isn't there a Friday Sing at The Chillingham Arms you go to? Might well see you there on the 5th March.

Why have you retained your Australian citizenship?...needs must.

I'll say it again, David - you have the voice, the cultural background, & the curious dual-nationality that uniquely qualifies you to explore the rich tradition of English-Australian folk song. Your true personal cultural heritage?

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 07:03 AM

To Cat (Copy/Paste) Spaw - Sean didn't ask a questioin this time - he merely repeated the same false accusation.

And from Stu, then...

But how do you defend your strange hypotheses in the presence of live human beings?...from memory.
Do they not bay with hysterical laughter 'til the tears run down their legs?...one Theory Slam was recorded by the Beeb - I'll let you know if it is to be broadcast, so you can hear for yourself.
Are you a computer program trying to pass the Turing test?...I've already tured through about 40 countries, thanks.
What would you do with an empty church?...sing in my counter-tenor-ish Church voice.
Do you not realise that Table-tennis and Tennis are totally different games?...yes.
Do you not realise that many women are stronger, fitter and more agile than many men?...relatively few.
Do you have trouble explaining yourself?...I could do with more experience on stage but, overall, am not bad.
Do people avoid you at parties?...quite a few folk-singarounds the last few years, but few parties.
Are you a troll?...no - everything I've done so far on the folk and poetry scenes was as an amateur.
Why have you retained your Australian citizenship?...needs must.
Ize is English. Ise is French...jeez!

Stu/WAV

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: catspaw49
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 06:43 AM

WavyFWBR......You never attempted to answer S.O. or Stu.....not even asingle word. Getting to the point that the mountain is too high to climb?   Consider the following and respond to S-O and Stu:

--Your "poetry" sucks.
--It has been posted repeatedly before.
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements.
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile.
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels. '

As an explanatory addendum;
'It's a number of things about which you have unresearched and unwarranted opinions:

Chauvinism/anti feminist (eg women tennis players)
Recorder (English Flute)
Poetry (Worth severe editing at least)
Immigration (NIMBY)
Folk Music (You differ from so many experts on this forum)
Gardening (You differ from so many experts on this forum)
Nationalism (You differ from so many experts in this world)
Education (you think it stops after your life's work)
English grammar and punctuation (You differ from so many experts on this forum)

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 06:26 AM

You forgot the title, Smedley...how about this from John McEnroe "The Pits"?

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: Smedley
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 06:14 AM

My theory is that WAV is an actor rehearsing for a Mike Leigh film; Leigh requires his actors to 'live' as their characters, often for several months, to fully immerse themselves in the role.

Apropos of not very much at all, years ago I used to eat quite regularly in a cheap but pretentious restaurant that encouraged its diners to write a small verse reflecting their enjoyment of the (not very good) food. The best ones were pinned on the wall, but sadly my own effort never joined those ranks. I submit it here on the grounds that even though it was a drunken five-minute joke it has more poetic merit than WAV's entire oeuvre:

I hate your f***cking pancakes
Your pizzas make me vom
I'd rather eat the armpits
Of the actor Herbert Lom

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: s&r
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 06:08 AM

I'm not sure that wanting to be a folkie is any more successful than wanting to be English..

Stu

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: s&r
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 06:04 AM

But how do you defend your strange hypotheses in the presence of live human beings?
Do they not bay with hysterical laughter 'til the tears run down their legs?
Are you a computer program trying to pass the Turing test?
What would you do with an empty church?
Do you not realise that Table-tennis and Tennis are totally different games?
Do you not realise that many women are stronger, fitter and more agile than many men?
Do you have trouble explaining yourself?
Do people avoid you at parties?
Are you a troll?
Why have you retained your Australian citizenship?
Ize is English. Ise is French.

Stu

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 06:04 AM

Sean - I've really enjoyed Evensong at Durham Cathedral, and I'd like that long long Christian tradition to continue, thanks

Not that long long anyway, David - Evensong is an Anglican Tradition that only comes about with the Reformation which removed the living Eucharist from places like Durham Cathedral - so, most certainly not what it was built for. I dig it myself as a tradition of song broken only by the Cromwellian Republic when Evensong was effectively silenced - so, when, in time, it does become a mosque, then it's Abrahamic Tradition will remain just as intact as it does now, according to the needs of the people, much as the Hagia Sophia in Istanbul has changed hands over the millennia.

So... on these grounds do you question immigration, David - grounds which are essentially racist, and justified in terms of culture and tradition which are nothing if they're not mutable.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: mandotim
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 06:04 AM

Nope, that one doesn't do it for me either. Point four of the legendary Spaw Analysis refers...
Walkaboutsverse;
'--Your "poetry" sucks.
--It has been posted repeatedly before.
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements.
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile.
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels. '

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 01 Feb 10 - 05:33 AM

Sean - I've really enjoyed Evensong at Durham Cathedral, and I'd like that long long Christian tradition to continue, thanks; and, Stu., I've criticised the other conversions you mentioned in poem # 168: "Once Churches". Sean, as I've said before (without ever using "kidda", son, sonshine, or such like.), one thing I soon learnt from festival comps, etc., is that it's definitely preferable to know our folk repertoire by heart - hence my limit of about 60 songs/tunes, although, as with other folkies, I do know the chorus of others, of course.

Theory Slam (as on my twitter) topics, so far - reregulate football; native gardening; if you're not American, don't Americanise; females should, rather, play TABLE tennis.

John, no - it's a combination of things mentioned in my collection, including a visit about a decade before...

In 1988...

Poem 10 of 230: LAND'S END TO JOHN O' GROATS

(TUNE:

D G A A B B A A
D A B B A A G G
D B B B A A G G
D A B A B A G G)

At the bold age of twenty-one
    (Via Hong Kong, China, Macau),
I flew from Sydney to London -
    Land's End to John o' Groats my vow.

I took a train out of London,
    Found a highway and thumbed a ride;
I headed down toward Brighton,
    Then hitch-hiked roads the coast beside.

On the face of my shoulder bag,
A sketched map of Aus. was my tag;
For said a Scot who'd hitched Europe:
"Some emblem may well boost your hope."

And drivers throughout the island,
Over a two month riding span,
Were the kindest folks I have met -
I swear not once did I get wet!

I stopped overnight in Portsmouth,
    And one or two nights in Torquay;
Then headed along to Plymouth -
    Still travelling beside the sea.

After viewing rugged Land's End,
    I began the long journey north -
North-east, rather, before a bend,
    Somewhere in a bit from Bournemouth.

On the way, I saw relatives,
Whom after leaving I did miss -
Their homes' cosy atmosphere,
And their local pubs' good cheer.

And the hitched-lifts came from many:
An off-work Bobbie, a truckie,
As well as on-duty soldiers -
Thanks, and I've not said where each was!

I headed west through South Wales,
    And viewed Cardiff Arms from afar -
I was hitching with local males,
    And they showed me from in the car.

I stayed a while at Swansea -
    Saw the local footballers play;
Then hitched north through Llandovery -
    Beautiful farmland, I must say.

I slept mostly in B. & B.s,
Where the full breakfasts sure did please;
But also stopped in Youth Hostels,
Where it's the comradeship that tells.

My favourite sites were Torquay,
Old St. Andrews (noted shortly),
The road Glasgow-to-Inverness,
The Lakes, plus London's spots, no less.

From Colwyn Bay, I headed east
    To Manchester, my place of birth;
Then on the Lakes my eyes did feast,
    Before I passed by Solway Firth.

Onto Edinburgh, Glasgow,
    St. Andrews, before Inverness;
Then waves from locals were the go -
    Warm folks round John o' Groats, I'd guess.

From http://blogs.myspace.com/walkaboutsverse (e-book)
Or http://walkaboutsverse.sitegoz.com (e-scroll)
(C) David Franks 2003

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: mandotim
Date: 31 Jan 10 - 07:14 PM

Folks, I think we are in danger of forgetting the real purpose of this thread; just to remind everyone.
Walkaboutsverse;
'--Your "poetry" sucks.
--It has been posted repeatedly before.
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements.
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile.
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels. '

As an explanatory addendum;
'It's a number of things about which you have unresearched and unwarranted opinions:

Chauvinism/anti feminist (eg women tennis players)
Recorder (English Flute)
Poetry (Worth severe editing at least)
Immigration (NIMBY)
Folk Music (You differ from so many experts on this forum)
Gardening (You differ from so many experts on this forum)
Nationalism (You differ from so many experts in this world)
Education (you think it stops after your life's work)
English grammar and punctuation (You differ from so many experts on this forum)

There may be others.'

Thanks to Spaw and Stu for these wholly accurate and enlightening comments.
Getting the message yet, David?

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: s&r
Date: 31 Jan 10 - 07:03 PM

Tell us about the theory slams WAV and how you defend your strange hypotheses in the presence of live human beings. Is tis in the way of practice? Are you a computer program trying to pass the Turing test?

Would you rather a church became a mosque or a dance school or a custom conversion into luxury apartments (flats)?

Stu

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: GUEST,Suibhne (Astray)
Date: 31 Jan 10 - 05:38 PM

suggesting there that genuinely enjoying practising E. trads and hymns is "xenophobic idiocy"...

Do you really enjoy it? You've had the same repertoire of 17 E. trads for as long as I've known you and have no intention of learning any more. Talk about tip of the iceberg - you're not even touching the surface let alone scratching it. In your case, you do this as some sort of cultural penance - a minimal half-assed gesture to what you think ought to constitute English Culture - but doesn't, and never did, and certainly not in the way you think it did. So yes, WAV - it's xenophobic idiocy - certainly in the light of your next comment:

but, then, you once also posted you'd be happy if and when Durham Cathedral becomes a mosque, yes?

More a matter of when than if, WAV - and why the feck should it bother me? The Galilee Chapel of Durham Cathedral is the work of medieval Islamic masons & builders anyway; the rest of it was made by Frenchmen, built to glory of the Holy Roman Church and a 14-year-old Jewish virgin from Nazareth who lived 2000 years ago. Islam, Judaism, Christianity have been using the same places of worship forever - cathedral, mosque - as a humanist it's all the same to me, kidda.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 31 Jan 10 - 04:26 PM

Did you come back because you aren't very big down under?

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 31 Jan 10 - 04:16 PM

I fear you really are losing your humour, not to mention your marbles, now, S. - suggesting there that genuinely enjoying practising E. trads and hymns is "xenophobic idiocy"...but, then, you once also posted you'd be happy if and when Durham Cathedral becomes a mosque, yes?

Ralphie's back, AGAIN - eat your heart out Nellie Melba!

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: GUEST,Suibhne (Astray)
Date: 31 Jan 10 - 01:19 PM

it seems to me you don't like immigration being questioned at all.

Not on the racist grounds that you persist with, WAV. And as long as your idea of being English is keep practising E. trads and hymns, plus other aspects of England's good cultural heritage it looks like that entrenched xenophobic idiocy looks set to endure. England's Good Cultural Heritage is about everyone living in England today - whatever their point of origin, or indeed destination. In one way or another we're all just passing through, and culture flows accordingly.

Be sure to tune into BBC4 at 10pm tonight (after first watching Being Human on BBC3 of course) & prepare yourself for great music & stunning cross-cultural pollinations that will continue to impact throughout the globe - England included. Get with the groove, WAV.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: s&r
Date: 31 Jan 10 - 01:14 PM

–noun
1.         a person who migrates to another country, usually for permanent residence.
2.         an organism found in a new habitat.

Stu

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 31 Jan 10 - 12:45 PM

He's not still here is he??? Must have missed him in the past few months.
Must try harder in the avoiding department.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 31 Jan 10 - 12:41 PM

"Not by an immigrant"...you shoot yourself in the foot/"are your own worse enemy" with this, Stu., because, born here (along with all my known forebears), I AM a repatriate, as I've told you so many times.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: s&r
Date: 31 Jan 10 - 12:10 PM

Not by an immigrant.

It's a number of things about which you have unresearched and unwarranted opinions:

Chauvinism/anti feminist (eg women tennis players)
Recorder (English Flute)
Poetry (Worth severe editing at least)
Immigration (NIMBY)
Folk Music (You differ from so many experts on this forum)
Gardening (You differ from so many experts on this forum)
Nationalism (You differ from so many experts in this world)
Education (you think it stops after your life's work)
English grammar and punctuation (You differ from so many experts on this forum)

There may be others.

From time to time I try to ignore your posts and regard them as trolling; then it seems you get a burst of confidence when no-one challenges your postings and revert to type. I and others then find it difficult not to respond.

You are really your own worst enemy

Sadly

Stu

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 31 Jan 10 - 11:47 AM

Thanks for the "poetic gem," John!
Do you like the U.N. being overridden by the U.S. and the U.K., crude Catspaw?
To the two S.s - it seems to me you don't like immigration being questioned at all.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 31 Jan 10 - 10:29 AM

my "supposed travels" (you now copy/pasting band-wagon rubbish) can be proven via passports (including one from the Youth Hostel Association...any one else stop in YHAs..?), as can the distinctiions I received during my Humanities Degrees, which you did attempt to mock, above.

When was the last time you travelled anywhere? When was the last time you wrote anything new? As for your qualifications, I'm not mocking them, just amongst my friends & relations I might number people who have doctorates and all manner of letters after their name but they're pretty cool about it - unlike you, who feels having a degree qualifies you to pass comment of stuff you clearly have no understanding nor yet appreciation of - i.e. The Rich Complexities of British / English Culture over the last 10,000 years.

Stu's right there by the way - people are just trying to help you - that's what The re-Imagined Village thread was about essentially, to enrich you repatriation - but you resoltely refuse to learn and run back to the sucky-blanket Life's Work which at least could do with freshening up, or, better still, ditching altogether.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: s&r
Date: 31 Jan 10 - 09:59 AM

"
Can I say again WAV: I don't dislike you; I don't know you . You're probably an alright guy (Sean says so and I value his opinion). I have tried repeatedly to help in your education. I would like to like you. So I suspect would many others on the forum who you malign and impugn.

It's your posts I detest. They smack of all the isms that I would not wish to be associated with. "

I still don't know you. You are possibly a computer program but I'm not sure of that

Stu

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: catspaw49
Date: 31 Jan 10 - 09:57 AM

Wake up WavyFWBR...........The only person who believes in your structure of the UN or this eco-tourism/cultural immigration crap is you.........and other assorted crackpots and skinhead types the world around. If you can't see the racism inherent in your statements and your "life's work," then you are beyond the pathetic, broke-dick, jagov that I assume you are. You are the most heinous of bigots. You actually believe your own bullshit and are so sure in your (lack of) knowledge that what you say is right that you glory and revel in the trashy doctrines you support. You cannot escape the facts:

--Your "poetry" sucks.
--It has been posted repeatedly before.
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements.
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile.
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 31 Jan 10 - 09:49 AM

The Famous Tay Whale
'TWAS in the month of December, and in the year 1883,
That a monster whale came to Dundee,
Resolved for a few days to sport and play,
And devour the small fishes in the silvery Tay.

So the monster whale did sport and play
Among the innocent little fishes in the beautiful Tay,
Until he was seen by some men one day,
And they resolved to catch him without delay.

When it came to be known a whale was seen in the Tay,
Some men began to talk and to say,
We must try and catch this monster of a whale,
So come on, brave boys, and never say fail.

Then the people together in crowds did run,
Resolved to capture the whale and to have some fun!
So small boats were launched on the silvery Tay,
While the monster of the deep did sport and play.

Oh! it was a most fearful and beautiful sight,
To see it lashing the water with its tail all its might,
And making the water ascend like a shower of hail,
With one lash of its ugly and mighty tail.

Then the water did descend on the men in the boats,
Which wet their trousers and also their coats;
But it only made them the more determined to catch the whale,
But the whale shook at them his tail.

Then the whale began to puff and to blow,
While the men and the boats after him did go,
Armed well with harpoons for the fray,
Which they fired at him without dismay.

And they laughed and grinned just like wild baboons,
While they fired at him their sharp harpoons:
But when struck with,the harpoons he dived below,
Which filled his pursuers' hearts with woe.

Because they guessed they had lost a prize,
Which caused the tears to well up in their eyes;
And in that their anticipations were only right,
Because he sped on to Stonehaven with all his might:

And was first seen by the crew of a Gourdon fishing boat
Which they thought was a big coble upturned afloat;
But when they drew near they saw it was a whale,
So they resolved to tow it ashore without fail.

So they got a rope from each boat tied round his tail,
And landed their burden at Stonehaven without fail;
And when the people saw it their voices they did raise,
Declaring that the brave fishermen deserved great praise.

And my opinion is that God sent the whale in time of need,
No matter what other people may think or what is their creed;
I know fishermen in general are often very poor,
And God in His goodness sent it drive poverty from their door.

So Mr John Wood has bought it for two hundred and twenty-six pound,
And has brought it to Dundee all safe and all sound;
Which measures 40 feet in length from the snout to the tail,
So I advise the people far and near to see it without fail.

Then hurrah! for the mighty monster whale,
Which has got 17 feet 4 inches from tip to tip of a tail!
Which can be seen for a sixpence or a shilling,
That is to say, if the people all are willing.


Maybe one day, you'll be as good a poet as William Topaz McGonagall WAV, but somehow I doubt it.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 31 Jan 10 - 09:49 AM

Having gone along with the false band-wagon labelling, Stu, you say "I don't know you"...who's a "quack", then?!

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: s&r
Date: 31 Jan 10 - 09:38 AM

"If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, it must be a duck"

You sound Australian. That is the country that educated (sic) you and nurtured you through your impressionable years. You know nothing of English culture. You have an Australian passport and citizenship still?
you have learned little from England in your time here.

I can't see what your problem is with being Australian. It's a fine and proud country.

But wishing won't make you English to me I'm afraid.

"If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, it must be a duck"

Can I say again WAV: I don't dislike you; I don't know you . You're probably an alright guy (Sean says so and I value his opinion). I have tried repeatedly to help in your education. I would like to like you. So I suspect would many others on the forum who you malign and impugn.

It's your posts I detest. They smack of all the isms that I would not wish to be associated with.

From what you say 'On another forum a few years ago, someone coined the term "WAVoholics"' this is not the only place which opposes ypur postings. I have seen worse descriptors than WAVoholics on various forums.

Sincerely

Stu

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 31 Jan 10 - 09:16 AM

That will be easier when people stop questioning my repatriation (e.g., "Why ON EARTH did you come back?" or "You must be mad!" at interviews) and start questioning New Labour's extreme pro-immigrationism. And given that people on this very thread still refuse to accept that I'm English, it shouldn't be hard to believe.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: mandotim
Date: 31 Jan 10 - 09:13 AM

Culturally, WAV, you ARE Australian. Your language repeatedly shows this to be true (anyone use the words 'chooks' or 'Kooris' in England?) Why are you so ashamed of that?
Your travels merely show that it is possible to cover great distances, see lots of things and learn absolutely nothing at all. Difficult for most people, but a breeze for someone as self-absorbed as you.
You don't understand English culture in the slightest; I don't blame you for that, you weren't brought up here after all, but what really irks me (and most people on this board) is your constant ill-informed blethering about what English culture ought to be. You are talking (mostly) to people who understand their own culture as part of their life and soul, not some superficial pastiche as seen by some immigrant with delusions of omnipotence. Can't you see the monumental and misplaced arrogance of your position? Would you (for example) seek to explain to Roger Federer how to play tennis? Seek to educate Pele in the finer points of football? Point out to Einstein the inconsistencies in his theories? I hope not; and yet you seem to think it's ok to tell English people how to experience their own culture. It's not, and the sooner you leave this board and go and irritate some other poor souls the better. Spaw has it right;
--Your "poetry" sucks.
--It has been posted repeatedly before.
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements.
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile.
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: mandotim
Date: 31 Jan 10 - 08:56 AM

Racist, not realist WAV. By any reasonable definition, including your precious UN, and by any sort of calm, logical argument that an educated person might use. As Spaw puts it;
--Your "poetry" sucks.
--It has been posted repeatedly before.
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements.
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile.
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.

You mention your CV repeatedly; is it helping to find you a job so you don't have to sponge off the rest of us?

Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 31 Jan 10 - 08:41 AM

That from Stu, who repeatedly calls me "Australian," even though I've repeatedly mentioned that I was born here, have lived here some 17 years, and keep practising E. trads and hymns, plus other aspects of England's good cultural heritage. And I only mention my C.V. IN DEFENCE.