Excellent Mudcat parody

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: The Sandman
Date: 25 Mar 09 - 11:22 AM

Ralphie,I aint bothered.
I dont think Lawrence would take offence anyway,his cartoons are very good, as I said before,but I dont find them very funny,that doesnt mean I cant appreciate good drawing etc,
now calm down,this stuff is not as important as playing music.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Surreysinger
Date: 25 Mar 09 - 11:27 AM

For our American friends, could I point out that in your case Humour is spelled HUMOR ??

Sorry Dick, I disagree - the Borfolk cartoons have withstood the test of time, simply because so many of those stereotypes displayed in the cartoon exist... and there certainly are clubs which still display individuals with some of the character traits and deficiencies displayed - otherwise it wouldn't be funny! Nobody has suggested that these are the norm, or indeed that any folk club with just three men and a dog actually exists. I think that that is where the word "humour" comes into it!

I didn't start going to clubs until the 1990's (after a long gap following university in the 70's) ... and even I can certainly recognise some of the behaviour and character traits under the spotlight. Mr Ingnobody actually runs a very successful club, by the way ... I haven't spotted any dog there yet, nor does there appear to be the equivalent of Old Vermin on the premises. However, somebody used to bring a canine chum to the Ram Club in Claygate on a regular weekly basis when I first started going there - so stereotypes DO actually exist!!

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Surreysinger
Date: 25 Mar 09 - 11:29 AM

Hmm .. that was posted before Dick's reply, which mystifies me. If you're telling people to calm down Dick, it rather raises the question of why you made such a fuss about it in the first place? And I do so agree that the music is so much more important!!

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Kev Boyd
Date: 25 Mar 09 - 11:56 AM

Is it just me or is anyone else frustrated that they can't click on the thread entitled "Urgently sought: Folk songs about brassicas"? I have a few suggestions if the link ever becomes active:

Lady Brussels and Little Mustard
Cauliflowers of the Forest
The Swedes of Lovely Nancy
T Stands for Turnip
The Cabbage in the Wood

And of course, all those old "B. nigra" spirituals so beloved of our cousins across the pond (that one's for all you amateur botanists out there).

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Maryrrf
Date: 25 Mar 09 - 12:14 PM

I though it was hilarious!

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: greg stephens
Date: 25 Mar 09 - 12:31 PM

I have to say that when I started this thread I was a litle nervous that it might turn into one of those threads for which Mudcat is (possibly justly) ridiculed in the fRuits columns. Well, Captain Birdseye has obliged. Thanks to everyone else for treating it in the spirit intended.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Eddie
Date: 25 Mar 09 - 12:52 PM

I'm surprised nobody has yet mentioned the wonderful road names in the "How to find us" section.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: treewind
Date: 25 Mar 09 - 01:25 PM

I've only just found them.
"Lady Musgr.Ave."
"John Barley Corner"
etc...

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Folknacious
Date: 25 Mar 09 - 01:38 PM

Methinks the parodist made good use of online an anagram generator!!

I don't think there was such a thing as on-line, let alone anagram generators, when Borfolk first started. I seem to remember that quite a lot were contributed by readers via a competition in the early days. I know that other artists such as The Rotters Of Coppingdean and The Rubbishy Song And Tune Cell were, like Elmer P Bleaty, fond enough of their anagrams to occasionally self-refer to them, and some Borfolk names like Wardeaths were so appropriate that they entered common useage. Ditto DEAFASS (The Dance Earnestly And Forget About Singing Society) which was very appropriate 25-30 years ago. Borfolk was/is brilliant in the tradition of loving parodies like Spinal Tap and that new Morris film. I wonder if Lawrence/ Frank/ sTroof could be persuaded to put together an anthology for all those of us who no longer have their early Southern Rags, Folk Roots and old Sidmouth Festival daily newspapers?

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: wysiwyg
Date: 25 Mar 09 - 01:41 PM

I looked there, but I did not see any relation to Mudcat. US eyes, I guess.

~S~

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: greg stephens
Date: 25 Mar 09 - 01:49 PM

WYSIWYG: try this

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Folknacious
Date: 25 Mar 09 - 01:51 PM

Maybe you're looking at the Borfolk site in general, not the MudECeilidh page which looks and reads exactly like this one!

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 25 Mar 09 - 02:19 PM

To those who can't even get the letters of F IngNobody in the right order it's unsurprising that the point eludes them. With apologies to L Heath, I got bored with Borfolk 30 years ago, not because it was inaccurate but because it was far too frighteningly close to reality, and still is.

The so-called "revival" has much to answer for (mainly tie-dyed flares, beards, wilfully ignorant GEFFism and utterly, utterly BORing f*lkies with very low horizons). I learned to play and sing at school (before and after, actually). Also after school I learned step and clog from a traditional dancer, Johnson Ellwood, with local musicians sometimes including my grandfather who was my biggest influence, with the possible exception of Thomas Tallis.

The two worlds were entirely separate, one was never mentioned in the other, though the latter certainly wasn't called "f*lk". It was just what you did and it introduced me to pubs throughout the North East at an early age. Very early.

Come the early 60s, I pitched up in London where F ingF*lkClubs were all the trendy rage. I thought "I can do this, it's a bit like what I did with granddad". But it wasn't, really. I quickly tired of being told how inauthentic is was to read music, or what was considered kosher (or insert term appropriate to religion of choice) to do by one set or the other. It was less antagonistic to do the rounds of ultra-left splinter groups (or warring born-again christian sects - probably, but I wouldn't really know, not having tried any, not even ISB-scientology . . . ) I took to writing instead.

What's wrong with parody is either that those who ought to don't recognise themselves or else become ridiculously upset. Both reactions are tedious, as are muddy ceilidhs.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: The Sandman
Date: 25 Mar 09 - 02:25 PM

Diane,could you name some folk clubs that are close to this reality,thanks.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: High Hopes (inactive)
Date: 25 Mar 09 - 02:43 PM

Some take things waaayyyyyyy too seriously don't they? Geez this is one of the funniest things to come through the toll gate in along time.

"and The A.L.Lloyd Fake Song Award goes to....."

folk clubs are portrayed as three men and a dog,with an incompetent organiser

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: wysiwyg
Date: 25 Mar 09 - 02:53 PM

Ohhh!

~S~

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: MMario
Date: 25 Mar 09 - 02:58 PM

exactly.

*grin*

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 25 Mar 09 - 03:19 PM

The Captain is almost as funny as the parody, but not quite...nice try though Captain *snigger, snigger*

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Zen
Date: 25 Mar 09 - 03:44 PM

I agree with most posters here, I thought it was totally excellent and very well done.

Zen

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Surreysinger
Date: 25 Mar 09 - 04:19 PM

Re the acronyms ... having seen some jottings on a club night, I believe that Mr Ingnobody still works those out without the use of a computer

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Surreysinger
Date: 25 Mar 09 - 04:44 PM

Re the road names etc - I still like the name of the road that the club is in ... at first sight it didn't register, but read it quickly and the relevance is obvious!

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: semi-submersible
Date: 25 Mar 09 - 05:00 PM

What a hoot! Thanks, greg stephens.


The Folksinging parrots thread was the only one I could make work. I tried popup boxes too, and the sole one that worked was the "Translate from:" box right here at the end of the parrot thread. Worth it!


Rifleman observed:
    "almost as funny as the parody, but not quite"
Hear, hear!

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Folknacious
Date: 25 Mar 09 - 05:17 PM

And right at the very bottom:

Mud-E-Ceilidh time: 1 April 1893 - 00:35 AM APPROX

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 25 Mar 09 - 05:21 PM

I take it Borfolk has been around a while... it did seem more than an overnight labor to generate the anagrams/funny names. The Mud e-Ceilidh is new?

~ Becky in Tucson

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Ref
Date: 25 Mar 09 - 05:22 PM

I think I heard the Herring Song at Old Songs a couple of years ago.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Surreysinger
Date: 25 Mar 09 - 06:49 PM

Borfolk has been around since the seventies, although it has been in hibernation for some time. It was originally a cartoon series in a magazine called Southern Rag - subsequently that became Folk Roots magazine, then fRoots. And the Mud C=celidh is indeed new.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Crowhugger
Date: 25 Mar 09 - 08:02 PM

Tooo-shay! and still chuckling.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 01:50 AM

Well.
Mr Ignobody is obviously keeping an eye on Mudcat....
There is now a thread entitled
"Excellent Mud-E-Ceilidh parody"
Who says the Brits don't have a sense of the ridiculous!!!
Well done Frank.
(apparently the Borfolk site had 1000 or more (Bloody folk songs!) hits yesterday!

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 02:02 AM

And tangentially, with reference to Peter Bellamy. For many years he was the editor of the daily newsheet at Whitby Festival, and his cartoons and witty remarks were a must read first thing in the morning.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 02:25 AM

I like this one that's "below the line":

  What is there to talk about other than folk music?  1,623,917  12 Feb 09 - 10:23 AM  

1,623,917 messages.....

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 02:33 AM

Hi Joe.
I'm hoping that Mud-E-Ceileidh is not offending you at all?
As has been said above, the perpetrator is one of the nicest people in the UK Folk scene.
I just want to know how he set up his site to look just like Mudcat!

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 03:10 AM

Oh, I think it's great, Ralphie.
I hope Max has seen it.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 03:17 AM

Oh boy, that's a fun parody.
Well done whoever!

Seamus

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Spleen Cringe
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 03:27 AM

Looks like you got your wish, Ralphie - Howvicious Cheese get a mensh on the new thread!

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 03:32 AM

Yes. Nice one Frank. Now when do we get a booking!

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Harry Groves
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 04:31 AM

Apparently Peter Bellamy - a.k.a. Elmer P Bleaty - had all of the original artwork of the Borfolk cartoons that mentioned him framed and hung in his loo. Also, as Ralphie pointed out above, Peter's Whitby newsletters were essential reading. Indeed, Peter commissioned a series of Borfolk cartoons for the newsletter - the cartoons in which the Kipper song first saw the light of day.

Harry

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 04:43 AM

Have also been told that Mr Bellamy would often answer the phone...."Bleaty here!"
So, it would seem that he hadn't had a sense of humour bypass!

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 04:44 AM

Not sure about my new Moniker...."Harelip"
It might grow on me I suppose.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Banjiman
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 04:47 AM

It's funny!

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: greg stephens
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 07:14 AM

What is missing in the parody is the ability for real people to post on it. If Captain Birdseye could actually post comments on the parody....no, this is getting too close to Philip K Dick and parallel worlds sci-fi.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 07:29 AM

Greg.
I think that the inability of us mere mortals to contribute, is the master stroke!
If we were all able to contribute.....that way madness lies!! (Bit like here sometimes!)
It takes moderation to a whole new dimension...
LOL!

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Surreysinger
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 08:01 AM

Hmm ... the one thing that you haven't mentioned Ralphie is that there is actually a link on the thread about the "excellent Mud E-Ceilidh parody" which links back to this forum ... now THAT in my eyes is pure wicked genius. That one had me laughing rather more than a little!!

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Kev Boyd
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 08:06 AM

Someone with a name not dissimilar to mine has stolen my sprout-based song ideas and posted them on the Mud-e-ceilidh "brassica" thread. This is blatant plagiarism and although I have absolutely no evidence to back it up, I suspect someone at sTROOF magazine is behind it. It's like "Scarborough Fair" never happened... probably!

I feel an almighty "Hmmph!!!!!" coming on…

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Surreysinger
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 08:23 AM

LOL! Well at least your name is similar Kev!

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Seth T Wetlove
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 08:35 AM

It's a pity that Beatrice D Painsy had a sense of humour failure over this. Some people should just lighten up.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Jan Procum
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 08:59 AM

I'm just glad he's not got round to the Midsouth lineup thread...


Jan Procum (whose resemblance to teacakes or any other toasted comestibles is purely coincidental)

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 09:32 AM

Mas has seen it, and thinks it's very good work.

Dan

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: PoppaGator
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 09:46 AM

Hilarious!

In addition to the parody's own entertainment value, some of the commentary over here at the Real Mudcat is almost as funny, albeit unintentionally so. (I'm referring to those posts that reveal an absolute absence of any sense of humo(u)r.)

I didn't expect I'd be able to actually post on Mud E Cheilidh~ if I had created it, I certainly wouldn't allow my handiwork to be altered ~ but I gave it a try anyway. I was astounded to see that, when I began typing "P-O..." into the "From:" box, a dropdown appeared reading "PoppaGator." Amazing level of detail!

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 10:02 AM

Mr Gator...
Yes, it's all rather spooky isn't it!
Probably worth bookmarking, as I'm sure the site will expand as time allows.
I think that we all need to get a friendly kick up the arse every now and then.
Long may Mr Ignobody rool!

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 10:23 AM

Parody of a 100th post