Excellent Mudcat parody

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: catspaw49
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 10:24 AM

I can't understand how this isn't funny! Great job and enjoyed obviously by all here unless they're on drugs or something........

Spaw(:<))

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 11:06 AM

Hey! I've been quoted exactly...and renamed in the process. "Rumble-O" indeed!

After a few clicks, it gets weird trying to remember which site you're on........

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 11:11 AM

This is one of the most fun threads on Mudcat for some time.
The parody link is very good too!

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Old Vermin
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 11:16 AM

Told him it'd cause trouble...that Frank don't listen to nobody...

Vermin

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Surreysinger
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 11:22 AM

Vermin! So glad to see that the rumours of your demise are quite unfounded.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Surreysinger
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 11:24 AM

Sorry ... that was being overly familiar. Sorry Mr Valiant!

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Surreysinger
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 11:27 AM

Jan dear ... I fear that having put that idea into his head may very well spark something off! Look what happened to young Kev and his wish for a live thread on songs about Brassicas!

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Don Arsinane
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 11:27 AM

enjoyed obviously by all here unless they're on drugs or something

The trouble with old Dimsickle is that he's stopped taking the tablets, I reckon ;-)

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Vic Smith
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 11:46 AM

I can only assume that Don Arsinane (whoever he is - I wish people would post under their real names) thinks that he is being funny and clever by introducing Dimsickle into this thread.

Come off it. Mr Arsinane, we are not that thick on Mudcat! We can all work out that Dimsickle is an anagram of the name of that great performer, KID C. SLIME!

Does Mr. Arsinane think that it is fair to have a sly pop at Kid just because he has had his sense of humour surgically removed?

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 11:46 AM

For the further elucidation of anyone that's labouring under the misapprehension that I too am suffering a Borfolk sense of humour failure, I am not. The very first strip (In Southern Rag Vol. 1 No. 1 July - September 1979) was very, very funny. It was also too, too true and, at the same time, very sad:

A performer calls Mr Ingbody on the afternoon of a club night crying off.
Mr Ingbody adds £0000s to his firm's phone bill seeking a replacement, without success.
He then calls an agency. "They're free? HOW much?"
Rapidly weighing up the pros and cons, he makes a rare organisational decision and books them.
An already financially quaking Mr Ingbody is approached by the landlord as he arrives at The Swigging Pig.
"We have to put the rent up and, by the way, there's a snooker table in the club room", quoth mine host.
Only half the usual audience can get in as the House Full notice goes up.
Mine host remarks to Mr Ingbody: "House full eh? You must have made a tidy sum tonight".
Mr Ingbody: "I don't do it for money but for fun".

And so it goes on, right up to the present. It's why it's nothing short of a miracle that the shambling, ramshackle, unprofessional "f*lk club circuit" still exists 30 years on (just about). The reality is that unless it's fundamentally reorganised and put on a viable basis very, very soon it will vanish without trace. The question is, does this actually matter? Should it be run instead on a wholly revised premise (as many are already doing)? Or would it be preferable to forget all about "the revival" (as in "bury all reference to the post WW2 emergence of fake socialist states") and revert to "good old boys (sic) in the pub", which was roughly what my initial post yesterday (in an ante-ironic way, of course).

I hate anagrams and really can't be arsed to try and make one of my name. Possibly this means I should turn to substances too. Recommendations, Mr Arsinane?

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Surreysinger
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 11:56 AM

Kid C Slime ... gosh Vic, I haven't seen him around for a long time. Talk about a trip down memory lane!! :-)

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: The Sandman
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 12:20 PM

don arsinane is an anagram of Ian Anderson,the editor of folk roots,of course the poster could be anybody.,and probably is not Ian Anderson
Surrey Singer.
I am touring England.
Swindon April 3 , Swindon Folk Singers Club, Milton Rd Club,, Milton Rd, off Faringdon Rd, Swindon,, Eric Stott ,, Wilts
april 5. at Westoe Rugby Club,   Dean Road,
South Shields NE33 4EA
april 6,mystery folk club, Lancashire,
April 7,Darlington Brittania.
April 8, Gladstone Arms ,Carrington Nottingham
April 20,Waltham Abbey folk club
April.21,The Star. Romney marsh.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 12:20 PM

Mr. Bleaty did have a sense of humour, him did you know...unlike some here

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Harelip
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 12:46 PM

Our American (and Australian....and hello Skarpi!) friends must be scratching their collective heads (or in Spaws case, maybe somewhere else!).
Mind you. You yanks voted in 2 Bushes as President.
And you think were weird!!!
I have just notified the authorities, and from henceforth, HARELIP will be my name.
On a serious note. Lets keep this thread as funny as it has proved to be so far. There is too much bad news in the world at the moment.
So, come on Frank. Waddya gonna do next...? (and when are you going to book me?)
Sincerely
Harelip

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Kev Boyd
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 12:50 PM

Diane wrote:
"those who can't even get the letters of F IngNobody in the right order…"

Diane later wrote:
"A performer calls Mr Ingbody…"

I thought:
"Hmmm…!"

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 01:19 PM

☺ Cruel but fair methinks, Kev. ☺

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Surreysinger
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 02:04 PM

Errmm ... Harelip... not sure that that's a good idea - the flyers for May have already been printed. (Mind you, it does sound rather Norse ... Harold Hardrada and Harold Harelip anyone?? )Well, it's not a booking but you have got a floorspot next Friday when Frank's away!!!

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 02:25 PM

I am really glad I've learned that our UK members can always be depended on to wind things up!**bg**

katdefinitelylaughing

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 02:32 PM

I get the general idea, Harelip, but I have to confess that you're right. I AM scratching my 'collective' head....

But what I understand, I think is hilarious.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 02:51 PM

I need to know something. Why is is that some people (no names, no pack drill)go to extraordinary lengths, in their postings, to show the rest of us just to how humourless (humorless) they are.

As the poster High Hopes stated...

"Some take things waaayyyyyyy too seriously don't they?"

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 03:16 PM

Pretty clever. Byt as a Yank, the true identities of the people described by the anagrams elude me.
I don't understand Cpt Birdseye and Dianne's need to get their undies in twist over this parody, but that element of contention and vindictiveness is one of the endearing traits of the conversation here at the Mud-e-Ceilidh.
Looking forward to more additions to the page. I am happy to supply some Catspaw(Dogsfoot)posts to Frank's parody if required.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 03:30 PM

Interactivity on the parody would be absolutely perfect

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 03:36 PM

Dianne's need

Fuck off (and give me but one N - can't you do anagrams either?).
I have no problem with parodies, if well done. What I said was that I got slightly bored with Borfolk 30 years ago, believing that the parlous state of the music industry was a far more serious matter. Still do. Comprehension remains, however, not the average mudscribbler's strong point.

Mr Bleaty and I considered ourselves twins once, having been born four days apart. One thing we agreed on entirely was that So, Do No Tory Now (almost but not quite resolved anagram - told you I was rubbish at them) was the one with the humour bypass.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 03:43 PM

Have also been told that Mr Bellamy would often answer the phone...."Bleaty here!"

There's the picture in the Wake the Vaulted Echoes retrospective of PB with scrabble board on which are the words Bleating Boring Old Traddy. Can't find it on a Google image search though...

Fuck - I'm now the same age PB was when he died. Not a good thought!

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 03:49 PM

Diane, one of my favourite quotes about Peter Bellamy (whom I admire greatly is:

"Bellamists subscribe to a belief in the absolute purity and oneness of all things Bellamy, and bleat daily incantations in the hope of advancing the day when he will finally return to reign in ever-lasting glory."
-Jon Boden

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 03:52 PM

Dreadfully sorry, your ladyship. Not only for my lack of comprehension of the fact that the parlous state of music so on and so forth doesn't allow for the kind of monkey business represented by Borfolk, but that said lack would induce you to admonish me with such a crude epithet as "Fuck off".
I will now take the extra N I inadvertently assigned to you and go sulk in the corner.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 03:57 PM

Erm, yes. So what's new that you're telling me? That's been on the Jon'n'John (or do I mean Nerd'n'Spoon) website since 2002.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 04:07 PM

More than likely it's been there since 2002 but as I said it's one of my favourite quotes about Mr. Bellamy. Probably due to exceedingly bad taste on my part I'm no fan of Messers Boden and Speirs.

Belatedly I've realised that there's no being nice to 'er ladyship so bugger it...*LOL*

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 04:08 PM

While sulking in a corner (such a useful activity) you might puzzle out who Mr Bleaty and I were talking about. The subject was, after all, killed on a US roadside.

As for "really serious matters", I have another gripe to lay at the door of the transatlantic cousins. A decade ago I was driven demented by the proliferation of those luggage trolleys infesting the island of Manhattan, tripping up all and sundry. Now they're here. Everywhere. Used as offensive weapons against ordinary pedestrians.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 04:22 PM

Well, at least we gave you McDonald's. And never a word of thanks for that!
And those luggage carts aren't so bad really. Several years ago, trying to navigate a congested intersection in Heathrow, I would never have made my plane in time if I hadn't used one as a battering ram to drive a wedge through a morosely trudging queu of Brits who refused to acknowledge my polite "excuse me, please!" or even "coming through!" until I finally shouted "watch your ass"" and plowed through, like a broadside from the USS Constitution going through the beam of the HMS Guerriere.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 04:41 PM

Very clever!

I don't know who the folks on the UK side are, with or without anagrams. But the author signed his work, so that isn't a mystery--except that I don't know who he is, either. :)

SRS

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Big Mick
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 04:47 PM

Damn the buffaloes, Ernie........ Full speed ahead, sir!!!!!!

...where the hell did I lay that blue coat........

Mick

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: The Sandman
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 04:51 PM

like Diane,I thought these cartoons were funny 30 years ago.
and undoubtedly they are funny the first time you see them.
now I find them predictable and much else.the drawings are excellent
one final point,are we not allowed to have a different sense of humour wothout being called humourless.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Les from Hull
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 05:08 PM

Surely the whole point of parody is to go over the top with it, with the hope that people will recognise some of the elements, and probably think 'thank goodness we're not quite that bad'. I thought it extremely funny, and long may it continue and expand.

On the subject of Mr Bleaty's sense of humour, and his love of blues music, I'm reminded of the time he put his version of Robert Johnson's 'Stones in my Passway' on an LP (which is what we had in them days). To give it that element of veracity he added some scratches from an old military marching band record he had. Of course, there were no of these modern recording techniques then. He was surprised when someone return the record with a complaint 'there's something wrong with this track'. They didn't notice that the scratches were going at 78rpm and the record was going at 33rpm!

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 05:54 PM

. . . and think 'thank goodness we're not quite that bad'

But they are that bad. And worse. And have been for 30 odd years. That's the tragedy.
The mantra is still "professionalism bad, amateurishness good".
No, it isn't.
I can't read Lawrence Heath's mind, though I'd be very surprised if he was endorsing such smugness and self-satisfaction.
I'm much more inclined to believe that Frank's alter ego was hoping people might recognise something of themselves and work for improvement by following his real-life example instead.
If many more had, the musbiz wouldn't be in such a terminal mess.
Dick's right in identifying Borfolk as "predictable", still worse, it's self-perpetuating.
That's what's not so much funny as scary about it.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Richard Mellish
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 06:33 PM

I've enjoyed what I've been able to find, but I can't find
'Loved the "Click me" which puts a foot through the banjo...'
and
'- and The A.L.Lloyd Fake Song Award goes to.....'

Can some kind soul please provide direct links?

Richard

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 06:43 PM

You know what the mudcat banjo looks like at the top of the page. Simply click on that knock-off image and it changes.

Not sure where the other one is.

SRS

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST, topsie
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 07:58 PM

Richard, I think the A.L.LLoyd reference is just Mr/Ms High Hopes paying a compliment to this page:

this page

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Dave Roberts
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 08:27 PM

I'm full of admiration for this excellent parody, and also for the protagonists in this typical Mudcat discussion. Definitive and seemingly unanswerable arguments are put forward only to be countered by equally definitive and unanswerable arguments from an entirely different viewpoint. I've sat at the computer into the early hours following threads like this many times over the years, sometimes confused, usually bemused but always very amused (that's almost poetry).

Bert Davrose

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: catspaw49
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 08:35 PM

"one final point,are we not allowed to have a different sense of humour wothout being called humourless."

Of course you are, if you're on drugs.......Otherwise there is a surcharge and a luxury tax payable to Max.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 10:10 PM

Ah, my LeeJ! swoons, hand held to brow...

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 10:30 PM

Aw, all the women react to LeeJ that way. Can't figure out why...

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 12:57 AM

It ain't easy being green, is it, Joe?**bg** (All ya'd have to do is invite us up to your lighthouse sometime and wax poetic about wildflowers or summat.:-)

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 03:04 AM

From Captain Birdsey:
like Diane,I thought these cartoons were funny 30 years ago.
…………………………………………………………………
now I find them predictable ……………………………………..

and from Diane Easby:
……….I got bored with Borfolk 30 years ago,………..

So, where did either of you see the Mudcat parody 30 years ago? Even if the message is the same, the approach is fresh and amusing.



From another thread:

For more than 30 years Mudcat's Dick Miles has been play and writing traditional music………………….

Captain, perhaps it's a good job people don't apply your sense of humour to their musical tastes, otherwise you could find your upcoming tour playing to pretty small audiences.


DC

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 04:01 AM

Summarised above is the scenario of the very first Borfolk. And nothing's changed on the English landscape 30 years on, other than that there's now an additional coterie of smugness and self-congratulatory, insular mediocrity right here on t'internet, hence the lampooning Mud e-ceilidh.

As mentioned before, Lawrence Heath's intention is surely not to encourage "f*lkies" (yuk) to regard each other with ever-increasing, inward-looking, GEFFist affection and assume "we're not that bad". Yes, you are.

Frank/Lawrence soldiered on in Boring, hoping though largely failing to lead the "revival" by example. On the other hand, I got the hell out of it and promoted events in mainland Europe where the attitude of councils, funding bodies and punters alike towards tradarts is (unlike England) that it's a "normal" activity worthy of support.

It's invidious to single out Dick Miles as he's only one of hundreds of artists struggling precariously to survive on a circuit awash with faux cliquiness and amateurishness. Get real. Tradarts is a business where its workforce and products are now more than ever in need of professional marketing and promotion.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 05:57 AM

Spaw, not sure it's fair to make all these drug references to Spacy Inebriated or Acidtrip Bans Eye or whatever he's called.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 06:34 AM

Diane.
What on earth are you talking about???
It's just a bit of fun.
I've failed to make a living at playing music too. Am I bovvered...?
No, I'm not.
But, I'll carry on losing money, because most of the people I encounter are very pleasant.
Just lighten up a bit will you?
(that applies to Dick Miles too)

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Thin Seal
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 06:40 AM

This thread has passed beyond parody.

Ran Cry Beer

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 06:46 AM

Don't you mean Rapody?

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Shat Nile
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 06:54 AM

No, I meant Ay dropy (in oor eee).

Craneberry