What happened to broadsidemagazine.com?

Subject: Broadside - the magazine
From: MartinRyan
Date: 14 Nov 00 - 06:09 PM

Some of you may be interested in THIS

Regards

p.s. Maybe the elves can tidy up the URL?

Subject: RE: Broadside - the magazine
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 14 Nov 00 - 06:39 PM

God that's a coincidence - I was just up in the attic clearing stuff up, and I found an ancient ancient copy of Broadside from back in the '60s. Blotchy printing ion a duplicator that had seen better days. Songs by Dylan and Phil Ochs and others.

And it also included one by me, "I've got a Secret", about a secret government nuclear fallout shelter - no name with it, because I was a bit worried they could get me, since technically it was in breach of the British Official Secrets Act, so I'd had it left off the copies they ran off during the Aldermaston March, and Broadside had got a copy of it from somewhere.

And the funny thing is that only a couple of weeks ago I went on a day trip to one of these underground Regional Seats of Government, a few miles from where I live. It is now a tourist attraction, with signs all around the district saying "this way to the Secret Nuclear Fallout Shelter". And it's the strangest place in the world. They sold it back to the farmer whose place it had been built on, and it's like something out of Dr Who.

Some things do change for the better.

Subject: RE: Broadside - the magazine
From: simon-pierre
Date: 14 Nov 00 - 09:29 PM

Good story, Mcgrath! Broadside has for me something mythic, and I'm very happy to meet someone who published in Broadside (since Dylan is very busy, I don't talk to him that much...).

you can see and hear more about this release there:

http://www.bestofbroadside.com/

SP

Subject: RE: Broadside - the magazine
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 15 Nov 00 - 09:18 PM

Thanks - that's a really handy site. And tuneful.

Subject: RE: Broadside - the magazine
From: GUEST,(Edgar A.)--a.k.a. Art Thieme
Date: 16 Nov 00 - 12:12 AM

Once upon a time I had the first 50 issues of Broadside but those are long gone now. I think I gave 'em to the Old Town School Of Folk Music at least 15 years ago--maybe 20---but I've not ever seen them anywhere around there in recent times.

Art

Subject: RE: Broadside - the magazine
From: katlaughing
Date: 16 Nov 00 - 01:01 AM

WOW! Thanks for the great links and info. I was just a bit too young to know about this at the time, well, and out in the boonies of Colorado. I look forward to being able to get the set. McGrath and "Edgar A", it is an honour.

Thanks, Martin.

kat

Subject: RE: Broadside - the magazine
From: MartinRyan
Date: 16 Nov 00 - 09:31 AM

Glad you enjoyed that. The Irish Times regularly publishes articles on folk/traditional material. I'll post links when they might be of interest.

Regards

Subject: What happened to broadsidemagazine.com?
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Sep 10 - 08:29 PM

I'm wondering if anybody here can tell me what happened to the website www.broadsidemagazine.com. Broadside was a real magazine in the 60's and 70's, but then ceased publication. Old issues were put online starting about 2006, I think. Also, there are a handful of new articles and songs, the most recent being 2009 or 2008. I've tried to contact the people who run the site a couple of times with new songs, but nobody has responded to me. Is this site even still looked at anymore, or have the people that started it forgotten about it? Does anybody here know how to contact them? Please post if you have any information at all.

Subject: RE: What happened to broadsidemagazine.com?
From: bobad
Date: 25 Sep 10 - 08:36 PM

http://broadsidemagazine.com/

Subject: RE: What happened to broadsidemagazine.com?
From: GUEST,erbert
Date: 25 Sep 10 - 10:04 PM

Google Chrome got its knickers in a twist over that link..

"Warning: Visiting this site may harm your computer!
The website at broadsidemagazine.com contains elements from the site onlineisdudescars.com, which appears to host malware – software that can hurt your computer or otherwise operate without your consent. Just visiting a site that contains malware can infect your computer.
For detailed information about the problems with these elements, visit the Google Safe Browsing diagnostic page for onlineisdudescars.com.
Learn more about how to protect yourself from harmful software online.
I understand that visiting this site may harm my computer."

Subject: RE: What happened to broadsidemagazine.com?
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Sep 10 - 10:15 PM

So did Firefox.

Subject: RE: What happened to broadsidemagazine.com?
From: bobad
Date: 25 Sep 10 - 10:27 PM

That's funny, it works fine for me and I use Firefox - it's just the same old Broadside site as far as I can tell.

Subject: RE: What happened to broadsidemagazine.com?
From: bobad
Date: 25 Sep 10 - 10:39 PM

When I go to the link using IE I get one of those fake "your computer may be at risk" messages with a "scan now" pop up, which when you try and exit starts says you are infected with all sorts of viruses - have to use the Task Manager to get out of it. I guess the site has been co-opted by scammers - I will email them about it.

Subject: RE: What happened to broadsidemagazine.com?
From: GUEST,erbert
Date: 25 Sep 10 - 10:51 PM

hmmm... interesting a 'GUEST'
wants to get us folkies interested in
visiting a now somewhat risky "broadsidemagazine.com" ???????????

Subject: RE: What happened to broadsidemagazine.com?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Sep 10 - 03:30 AM

Well, erbert, http://broadsidemagazine.com/ has been a very important folk music Website, so we want to be able to access it.
I get the Website sometimes, and sometimes not.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: What happened to broadsidemagazine.com?
From: Larry The Radio Guy
Date: 26 Sep 10 - 03:44 AM

But wasn't Broadside always a threat to the status quo?

Subject: RE: What happened to broadsidemagazine.com?
From: Ian Hendrie
Date: 26 Sep 10 - 03:51 AM

I also get Virus Alert from AVG/Firefox when attempting to visit the site. Best avoided methinks!

Subject: RE: What happened to broadsidemagazine.com?
From: Will Fly
Date: 26 Sep 10 - 04:16 AM

Well, I've just entered the site with my trusty Mac Book Pro - no message about malware anywhere. As far as I can tell, it's an archive of the articles which were published in the various incarnations of the magazine - plus some more recent comments in a kind of unstructured blog. Here's what the ABOUT page says:

The History of Broadside Magazine

Hugely influential in the folk-revival, Broadside Magazine was founded in 1962 by Agnes "Sis" Cunningham and her husband, Gordon Friesen, as a small mimeographed publication. The magazine reflected the times. It was often controversial, and was the subject of questions in one of Bob Dylan's many news conferences, as seen in the Martin Scorcese documentary on Bob Dylan released in 2005. Issues of what is folk? what is folk rock? and who is folk? were roundly discussed and debated. At the same time, Broadside nurtured and promoted important singer-songwriters of the era.

By the end of the seventies it had virtually ceased publication. In 1982 it was revived by Norman Ross, President of Clearwater Publishing (a publisher of microfilms and reference books) after the firm had microfiched the entire backfile, and Jeff Ritter, a musician and folklorist.

Broadside in the eighties, published by Ross and edited by Ritter (a musician and grad student at the time), covered multiple movements and songwriters including: Arlo Guthrie, Billy Bragg, Charlie King, Holly Near and more. The revival of the Newport Folk Festival coincided with this era and many singer-songwriters who began at this time continued their involvement with the music industry.

After Ross and Ritter had published 35 issues, Sis Cunningham wanted it back. After publishing 5 more issues she gave up and the magazine ceased publication for good. Microfiche of the entire collection of Broadside are available in many libraries and can be purchased from Lexis-Nexis, which acquired Clearwater Publishing in 1987.

Dozens of the songs recorded for Broadside, or which were published in the magazine over its lifetime, were released by Folkways/Smothsonian Records in 2000 as "The Best of Broadside" in a 5-CD boxed set. Approximately half a dozen other discs, originally issued on vinyl by Folkways Records on a special Broadside Label are also available from Folkways/Smithsonian.

There's nothing else of substance being written or contributed currently, as far as I can tell.

Subject: RE: What happened to broadsidemagazine.com?
From: bobad
Date: 26 Sep 10 - 07:59 AM

What I think may be happening here is a redirect. Because I can access the site with my Firefox browser and not in IE is probably due to the filters and blockers I have operating in Firefox and not in IE, which I seldom use. These are allowing my browser to ignore the redirect. It would be interesting to see if other Mac users can also access the site as can Will - that would indicate that the attack is directed against PCs and not Macs. I have sent off an email to Broadside, alerting them to the problem.

Subject: RE: What happened to broadsidemagazine.com?
From: bobad
Date: 26 Sep 10 - 10:53 AM

Hmmm......just received this message, not quite sure what it means.

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.

THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY.

YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE.

Delivery to the following recipients has been delayed.

       [e-mail]

Subject: RE: What happened to broadsidemagazine.com?
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Sep 10 - 11:19 AM

call me paranoid..

but, i'm guessing that "GUEST" knows more about the malware hijacking of broadside.com
than the 'innocent' opening post lets on.

Maybe someone with a grudge against mudcat is either responsible for the malware redirect,
or oportunisticly exploiting the problem to try get us to f@ck up our own computers...


btw, i would never dare use IE to test such a site,
after the last time it caused me to lose my PC to such a similar malware infested website,
and needing to do a complete re-install.

chrome and firefox only from now on...

Subject: RE: What happened to broadsidemagazine.com?
From: GUEST,erbert
Date: 26 Sep 10 - 11:20 AM

oops, that last guest 26 Sep 10 - 11:19 AM was me

Subject: RE: What happened to broadsidemagazine.com?
From: GUEST,erbert
Date: 26 Sep 10 - 11:33 AM

googling 'onlineisdudescars' indicates a whole mess of infected servers & domains and malicious re-directs

Subject: RE: What happened to broadsidemagazine.com?
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Sep 10 - 12:00 PM

I am the first one who made this post. It makes me laugh to think that you guys think I am trying to mess up your computers, but I understand your caution, since there is no real way to know every random person who posts on a website. I am a political songwriter, looking to make additions to the broadside website, that's all. I have a mac with firefox, which doesn't tell me this is a virus website, but if your computers say it is, I would suggest not investigating any further. The reason I posted was to try to reach somebody who knew the people that set up the site and why they seem to have abandoned it.

---

Still and all, here's the policy:
Please note that anonymous posting is no longer allowed at Mudcat. Use a consistent name [in the 'from' box] when you post, or your messages risk being deleted.
Thanks.
-Joe Offer-
If you insist on posting anonymously, please don't be surprised if you are viewed with disdain and suspicion. -Joe-

Subject: RE: What happened to broadsidemagazine.com?
From: EBarnacle
Date: 26 Sep 10 - 12:43 PM

Guest, if you have contributions to make, as you seem to, it would make sense to out yourself and join us with a consistent tag.

Subject: RE: What happened to broadsidemagazine.com?
From: bobad
Date: 28 Sep 10 - 07:15 AM

Now I get this two days later:

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.

Unable to deliver message to the following recipients, due to being unable to connect successfully to the destination mail server.

       [e-mail]


It looks like they may be having a serious problem of some sort. If anyone knows of an alternate means of contact perhaps you can try that and let us know.

Subject: RE: What happened to broadsidemagazine.com?
From: GUEST,Morgana
Date: 29 Sep 10 - 07:43 AM

"Guest, if you have contributions to make, as you seem to, it would make sense to out yourself and join us with a consistent tag."

You are right EBarnacle, and I apologize for keeping my name concealed. I'm usually hesitant to put myself on the internet, but I think that I actually may have another post on here with my name, so any objection on this site seems silly, now.

Morgana

Subject: RE: What happened to broadsidemagazine.com?
From: GUEST,Morgana
Date: 29 Sep 10 - 07:56 AM

I have emailed Peggy Seeger, whose song from a couple of years ago is on the broadside website, to ask her if she knows how to contact them, or if she knows what happened to the website. I will let you know if she has information.

Subject: RE: What happened to broadsidemagazine.com?
From: Mark Ross
Date: 29 Sep 10 - 03:43 PM

I'm using a Mac G4 and having no problems. The site comes up fine.

Mark Ross

Subject: RE: What happened to broadsidemagazine.com?
From: GUEST,Morgana
Date: 08 Oct 10 - 04:41 PM

Just got a response to my email to Peggy Seeger. It said to contact http://www.metascholar.org/MOSC/essays/broadside.htm. I haven't gotten a chance to contact them yet, or look at the site, but this looks like hope. Once again, I apologize to everybody for concealing my name, and thank you for your responses here. The extra information has been very helpful in piecing this puzzle together.

Morgana