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Subject: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: saulgoldie
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 06:26 AM

So many pundits, pontificators, lawmakers, and religious types from some other religion than my own are obsessed with what my "naughty bits" do, where they do it, with whom, and whether there is a material transaction.

This obsession keeps them from using their own and the national public energy on REAL problems. Furthermore, many of them claim to be Libertarians after a fashion. Libertarianism as I thought I understood it is about protecting my person and property from force or fraud, not from my own sexual behaviour. WTF??

Incidentally is curious to note that some of the most virulent homophobes later "come out." And somehow their own violations of the "social code" they would impose on others are "forgiven." I can forgive them that. But I can't forgive them for their hypocrisy and hijacking of the public energy.

Saul


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: Jack Campin
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 06:32 AM

The latest hypocrite to be outed:

homophobe politician Grant Storms caught masturbating beside a kids'playground


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 06:51 AM

What it boils down to is that they really have not got anything better to do with their time and taxpayers foot the bill for this.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: Ed T
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 07:14 AM

My bits are not naughty. However, they possibly were when I was a youngster:)


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: olddude
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 09:43 AM

I don't know where it comes from my friend. I really think it is just a tactic that is used to deflect focus on the real issues that they have no solution for or even a intelligent suggestion. It is much easier to poke around peoples bedrooms than to try and fix a broken economy or stop a long running war. This way they can use the old holier than thou approach to remain in office and continue to do nothing. Look at our media, more time is spent on the TV talking about a broken actor like Charlie Sheen (my prayers go out to him) He has real mental and spiritual problems, then on any real news. We have become a nation of voyeurs instead of the problem solvers as we once were


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 11:20 AM

I call it a sad day when a vicar, doing his daily round of devotions and good works, can't have a wank in a children's playground without opening himself to accusations of inappropriate behaviour.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 11:28 AM

There is a difference between someone poking their noses in just for the sake of it and someone who obviously has a mental health problem. The fact that it is within close distance of children is disturbing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 11:38 AM

For those not old enough to remember the radio panel game 20 Questions, chaired by the wonderful Gilbert Harding.
For each round an unknown topic was chosen and read out by a hidden voice, out of the hearing of the panel of four, who were then allowed to ask twenty questions (answerable with only a yes or no) in which to guess the unknown topic. Included on the panel was the very prim-and-proper member of the nobility, Lady Isobel Barnett.
Don't know if this works in print!!

Hidden voice. "The next object is a man's penis - a man's penis."
Chairman. "Lady Barnett?"
Lady Barnett. Is it a man's penis?

Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: Amos
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 11:44 AM

It's only a wee-wee.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: C-flat
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 12:04 PM

I call it a sad day when a vicar, doing his daily round of devotions and good works, can't have a wank in a children's playground without opening himself to accusations of inappropriate behaviour.

Big Al!!!!
You made me spit coffee all over my key pad!!
And now the boss is looking and wondering what I'm doing!
Thanks for the laugh!


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: Mrrzy
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 01:11 PM

Yeah, I wonder how long the government is going to keep looking under people's pants before letting them enter into civil contracts like marriage...


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: gnu
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 01:16 PM

Ditto C-flat... hahahahahahaaa


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: akenaton
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 01:29 PM

Typical inane comments about what is a serious subject.

"Obsession with naughty bits"...for fuck sake grow up the lot of you, I take it that you are all quite comfortable with the homosexual aids/hiv/health figures?
I take it that you would rather no one mention, that homosexuals are so over represented in these hiv/ health figures?

Just let them suffer and die quietly......how caring you "liberals" are.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 02:31 PM

akenaton... is there ANY topic which doesn't remind you of "...homosexual aids/hiv/health figures..."?

I'm sorry, but most of us are not 'comfortable' with any aids figures. That does not mean we obsess about it continuously. Since I am not homosexual, there is little I can DO about it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: kendall
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 02:37 PM

The right wingers do spend a lot of time and energy dwelling on other peoples sex lives.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: olddude
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 02:57 PM

Who said this topic is about gays. Saul's comment is a general one. Have you watched any news lately ... non stop Charlie Sheen and his two porno girlfriends ... but Libya ... oh yea that is an after thought ... that is his point. We as a nation are so worried about who is sleeping with who or what low cut dress some actress wore to the Oscars that we have no clue how our economy is in the toilet and our wars are still going on and how to begin to fix it. And who is saying anything about liberal or conservative. If all conservatives are concerned about is people's sex life then call me a liberal ... Last I looked I was a registered independent voter


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: Don Firth
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 04:02 PM

Talk about being obsessed with the "naughty bits" and what other people do with them. I knew it wouldn't be long before HE showed up. I wonder how long it'll be before the other one arrives?

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 04:06 PM

Chongo?


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 04:51 PM

I've recently adopted a chimpanzee at Monkeyworld called Sally:-

a href="http://www.monkeyworld.org/meet-our-primates/sallys-chimpanzees.htm">http://www.monkeyworld.org/meet-our-primates/sallys-chimpanzees.htm

I go and see her regularly and i have written her a song.

Primates have a well balanced and open attitude to the so called 'naughty bits'. I feel sure Chongo will confirm this information.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 04:54 PM

Sally

http://www.monkeyworld.org/meet-our-primates/sallys-chimpanzees.htm


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 05:02 PM

Alan, let me tell you about the Bonobos ....


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: akenaton
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 05:06 PM

Oh! This OP is not about Homosexuality?.....Silly me!

"Incidentally is curious to note that some of the most virulent homophobes later "come out." And somehow their own violations of the "social code" they would impose on others are "forgiven." I can forgive them that. But I can't forgive them for their hypocrisy and hijacking of the public energy."

From the OP.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: olddude
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 05:16 PM

No Ake I still don't see it .. if you think about it .. Newt was all over slamming Bill Clinton because of Monica and screaming morality phrases ... however at the same time he was doing one of his own female aids .. things like that ... Look at Rush making all of his comments at the same time he was sending his maid out to buy illegal pain pills ... it is about the hypocrisy that occurs over and over again .. and it is not a one sided thing .. it is all over politics .. I swear one will be hard pressed to find anyone in politics anymore that isn't cut from the same mold ... different parties, same stuff over and over again. At the same time important stuff just gets shoved aside. Obama was all about the "little" guy .. yet approved tax cuts for the rich again .. and the wars continue go figure

Here in Western NY we just had a newly elected house member resign because of his antics on Craigs List ... but when he ran it was all about family morals etc ... that is the point I took it to be. Not about anything gay. Where did you pick that up from? I am not slamming you, I just don't see where you picked it up from or I am missing something here


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: Don Firth
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 06:15 PM

Obsession.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: akenaton
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 04:08 AM

In all honesty, before doing a bit of research for another thread on Mudcat,I had absolutely no idea how bad the homosexual/hiv stats actually were......I was shocked that these figures had not been made available to the public in general...rather than folks having to go searching for them.

How can we pass laws concerning the "homosexual lifestyle", including marriage and fostering, when we are not,as a society, fully in possesion of the facts concerning the health risks associated with that "lifestyle"?

You say I am "obsessed"......well I prefer to call it concerned and I think everyone on this forum should be equally concerned about the rates of death and disease shown by the CDC figures.

You all seem quite happy to let these figures worsen annually yet do nothing about them......even more contemptible, are your attempts to marginalise my views and stifle debate on the subject.

Even in the first post here, the meaningless word "homophobe" was thrown about, attempting to give the impression that anyone who is concerned about sexual health or sexual conduct, is some sort of pervert
.........how ironic!...dont you think?


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 04:20 AM

This is probably not obsession as such but it is amazing how many people think that I SHOULD have a live-in partner of somekind and make the assumption that I have. My relationship is an unusual long distance one but I tire of having to explain the whole story to people I meet, not many can understand that it works for us (13 years).


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: C-flat
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 06:28 AM

Even in the first post here, the meaningless word "homophobe" was thrown about, attempting to give the impression that anyone who is concerned about sexual health or sexual conduct, is some sort of pervert

Akenaton, I don't follow your drift at all either. It seems as though you're looking at this through a very narrow lens.
The reference to homophobes makes a point about hypocrisy rather than sexual perversion/behaviour.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 06:35 AM

Ake = you're so right. If we published the HIV statistics, I bet those gays would think again. They'd all say sod this, I must give heterosexuality another try. The sales of Playboy Magazine would double overnight, subscriptions for the X rated tv channels would multiply tenfold. The recession would be over - a porn led recovery!

If only we listenined you - you're a bleeding genius.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: C-flat
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 10:38 AM

a porn led recovery!

Are you doing your bit?


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: olddude
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 10:44 AM

Ake
The rise of HIV is a concern to everyone and I am sure everyone here agrees with that.. However that isn't what the thread was about. Everyone should practice safe sex no matter if they are gay or not if they do not have a life long partner. However, c-flat wasn't talking about that here in this thread. That's all.

C-flat point is so well taken. On TV here the media is going nuts with Prince William and Kate ... All they keep showing over and over is some revealing outfit she modeling on a fashion show when she was in college. Good grief, not all the good work she does for charity, or what a fine lady she really is ... My understanding of her is she is a fine fine lady and will make a wonderful Princess, and he is a lucky man to find her. instead it is all about some revealing dress she modeled as a coed. The media it seems have lost their mind.

The new religion in America, well it use to be money, today it is boobs and who is sleeping with who.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 11:17 AM

"How can we pass laws concerning the "homosexual lifestyle", including marriage and fostering, when we are not,as a society, fully in possesion of the facts concerning the health risks associated with that "lifestyle"?

What do those presumed 'facts' have to do with treating people fairly? AIDS and other STDs affect the heterosexual population also! There are many, many gay individuals who are NOT promiscuous and who **already** live together, lacking only the legal protections and privileges that 'straight' couple take for granted.
You are not going to 'protect' anyone from anything by continuing to withhold those protections and privileges from them. The careless ones will continue to BE careless, just as careless heterosexuals are.
There is some good evidence that allowing marriage can even improve that sad 'data' by giving folks hope and a reason to settle down and become monogamous!

You STILL offer very little in the way of positive suggestions.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 11:56 AM

Oh come on Olddude - no one's that old! We'd all rather see a flash of Kate's knickers than a roll of bandages.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: GUEST,Speen Cringe
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 11:59 AM

Is someone's sexuality a lifestyle choice? Like what colour sofa to have in the good room or what haircut to get next? I don't think so. Is what consenting adults get up to in the bedroom news? Should it be in the public domain and should we even give a toss? I don't think so.

On the other hand, despite Ake's monomania on the topic, if it is the case that there is a disproportionate amonunt of HIV and AIDs in the gay community (and as I don't have the figures, I can't comment on how true this claim is) this is news - but it shouldn't be used a stick to beat gay men with but as a spur to get safe sex promotion back on track (I assume HIV/AIDS rates amongst lesbians is still very low). Equally, an anti-gay pastor chuffing off in a kid's playground is, however sordid, news - especially because it's an exposee of blatent hypocrisy by an outspoken public figure who makes a career out of pointing a judgemental fnger at others. I suspect if there is a god s/he gets mightily embarrassed when people like Grant Dribbles (or whatever he's called) claim to be acting as his or her representative on earth.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 12:05 PM

David Cameron is so right, C-Flat. WE must all pull together on this one.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: GUEST,999
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 12:21 PM

Pray tell, what ARE naughty bits?


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: olddude
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 12:30 PM

Alan
LOL, she sure is easy on the eyes for sure


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: saulgoldie
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 12:44 PM

Couple of points:

My use of the term "homophobe," which is someone with an irrational fear of homosexuals, was just to point out one of the many hypocritical areas of obsession of those obsessed with my genitals.

AIDS is spread in many ways. One, of course, and the way we most heard about it in the earlier years of our knowledge of the disease is through news about unprotected sex between homosexual men. However, while this is more or less how it began, it is not the only way it is transmitted. And as near as I can tell, it is not the primary way it is transmitted today.

AIDS is transmitted by sharing contaminated needles among users of street drugs. AIDS is transmitted from men to women during unprotected sex. AIDS does not know and does not care if the sex was consensual or if "she" knew he had AIDS.

Demonizing homosexuals does nothing to further the discussion or an honest and earnest attempt to end AIDS. But this argument is just part of the irrational obsession with "my bits."

When advocation of condoms is promoted, it is those self-same hypocrites who will oppose these efforts. They would suggest that since condom use does not offer 100% protection they should be DIScouraged. Also to be discouraged is ANY program of genuine, truthful, open program of sex education that would encourage our young to be sexually literate, aware, and healthy.

If you logically boil down the "obsession" arguments, they suggest that we all accept "their" notion that sex is "only for a married heterosexual couple for the purposes of procreation."

Akenton, I feel sad for you. Carrying your anger at homosexuals is a huge burden. I don't know how you can manage that weight. I find that on a good day, I cannot even manage some of my own burdens. But know that your hostility not only hurts you. It hurts millions of people who are the victims of public policies and persecution who have really done nothing to hurt society. (Now don't go off with red herrings about sexual assaults of various types or beastiality, which are not what I am talking about.)

And BTW, not that it should matter. But I am PROUDLY "straight, but not narrow."


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 12:47 PM

Without our naughty bits we wouldn't be here - but procreation is little more than a random byproduct of the sexual behaviour which we're naturally inclined to as individuals, be it straight, bi or gay. The equation is simple enough - you take away how many kids you've got from the amount of times you've had sex. Consenting is the key here; and the joy of it all of course which is what the genital topography is all about despite being messed up by a myriad of religions hung up on the absurdities of Sin coupled with a very real fear of Death. I often wonder what is so very wrong with humanity that it needed the agonising passion that effectively eclipsed the teachings of one switched on individual 2000 years ago. Sure we get things wrong from time to time, but is it really that bad? They must have been some apples in Eden that day... So - Sex, UFOs, God & Folk Music... It's not a matter of experience, but interpretation, though both are entirely subjective in the Mythic Realms we share in simply being alive in the first place. Make the most of it...


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: frogprince
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 12:48 PM

"what ARE naughty bits?"
That's easy; naughty bits are any bits you have fun with.

Truly spiritual Christians realize that it is inappropriate for a Christian to engage in any activity for the deliberate purpose of having fun.

Sarcasm aside, I knew one poor young man years ago who had actually set just that as a standard for himself; Even the very conservative Christians in his peer group tried to get through to him. I've known a few others who would never vocalize what he said, but who tend to act as if they believed it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: GUEST,999
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 01:21 PM

I GET IT! Naughty bits are the things that a very strange first grade teacher told my daughter to call 'private areas'. My daughter grew up calling her private areas her vulva, vagina, womb, etc. The teacher seemed not to want the other children in the class learning those words. Hence terms like naughty bits and private areas.

What a society.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: akenaton
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 01:42 PM

Saulgoldie.....You are quite wrong. Male homosexuals (MSM)are in the US and the UK, the group with by far the highest rates of hiv infection, in percentage terms and I believe also in real numbers.
As homosexuals represent only 2% of the whole population, it is easy to see the scale of the problem......if we want to see it.

I dont need patronising thank you, save your pity for those who are affected by aids and condemned to ever increasing infection rates by people like you, who prefer to stick their heads in the sand, rather than confront what is a gigantic health problem.
Contrary to what you posted, male homosexuals are the only group in which infection rates continue to rise steadily.....and that includes intravenus drug abusers. Infection rates in all demographics except male homosexuals are falling......please explain!

Bill, as you well know, I have set out my views on dealing with the link between male homosexuals and hiv several times on other threads....I dont intend to do so again here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: frogprince
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 01:46 PM

"private areas"
Well, at least that's better than having little kids learn all those obscence clinical terms. But it's far better to simply tell them never to mention such things at all...


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: olddude
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 01:48 PM

aahh Dean

Truly spiritual Christians realize that it is inappropriate for a Christian to engage in any activity for the deliberate purpose of having fun

what Christian are you talking about? LOL :-)
sorry I beg to differ my friend


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: frogprince
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 01:49 PM

...whatever "obscence" means...


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: Will Fly
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 01:52 PM

male homosexuals are the only group in which infection rates continue to rise steadily

And in Africa?


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: akenaton
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 01:59 PM

I did say in UK and US.

Transmission is related to culture and promiscuity in Africa.
Are Western homosexuals really 44times more promiscuous than heteros?

I dont think so.....but maybe you know the answer?


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: saulgoldie
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 02:26 PM

Akenton,

AIDS is a WORLDWIDE health issue. Answer these questions. (I could. But I want YOU to have the fun of doing the research.)

How much of the total world population are the US & UK combined?
How many AIDS cases were there last year in the WHOLE world?
What percentage of them happened ONLY in the UK/US?
How can you define promiscuity, much less actually measure it?
We will wipe out AIDS by: a) educating the world about safe sex, researching better treatments; or b) ranting about the "evils" of homosexuality and ignoring the facts.

Promiscuity in Africa? Oh, like when millions of women are raped by infected crazy men, or when their male partners don't know or don't care to tell them that they themselves have AIDS. You mean THAT promiscuity?

Saul


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: olddude
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 02:33 PM

Suibhne
we share in simply being alive in the first place. Make the most of it

That is a really great statement .. so true


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: akenaton
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 02:48 PM

There is more education, money and "tolerance" being aimed at the homosexual community than there has ever been, yet infection rates keep rising steadily....please explain?

Promiscuity figures are available from CDC.....numbers of sexual partners ect. Homosexuals in general, have a much larger number of sexual partners...monogamous homosexual unions last a fraction of the time of hetro unions....in general terms.
Average duration of homosexual monogamous union/marriage 1.5yrs.

You appear to be very poorly informed for someone who writes with such certainty.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: saulgoldie
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 02:57 PM

Akenton,
Let me share with you some folk wisdom. "When the tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail." It is clear that you have a hammer, and that every gay person is to you, a nail.

This is the point at which I leave the "enabling the hompohobe" portion of the thread.

Saul


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: akenaton
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 03:10 PM

"enabling the homophobe"....is that "it"then?.....is that your answer to the problem?....perhaps you dont see any problem?

Maybe you should do a little research before starting any more threads on this subject, or indulging in casual name calling.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: PoppaGator
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 03:37 PM

FWIW, Grant Storms is not a "politician," and his various crusades have not involved spending of taxpayers' money.

Well, public funds have been involved indirectly, I suppose, in that his most visible demonstrations have been at large public celebrations (Mardi Gras, and "Southern Decadence" on Labor Day weekend) which require a degree of police overtime for crowd control. But of course that police presence would be in place with or without the added presence of Rev. Storms and his followers.

The various point about hypocracy, misplaced values, etc., are all valid enough, and there are of course elected officials who espouse much the same agenda as this guy. But HE is not a polician; just wanted to clarify...


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: Don Firth
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 03:41 PM

Ake's figure that only 2% of the population is homosexual is a bit (!) off.

Latest figures:
2010
The National Survey of Sexual Health and Behavior found that between the ages of 14 and 94, 7 percent of women and 8 percent of men identify as gay, lesbian or bisexual, and that by age 50, 15% of men have had at least one oral sex encounter with another man.
In the United States, the largest population of gays is (surprise surprise!) San Francisco, with 15%. Close behind is Seattle with 12%. I do not have ready at hand figures for cities such as New York and Chicago. Statistics around the world reflect roughly the same percentages.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: Jack Campin
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 03:44 PM

I read the article rather quickly. The distinction between religious authorities and official political figures is so vague in countries like Iran and the US that it hardly matters. If you've got a few million people thinking you speak for the Almighty you can swing public policy, whatever the letter of the law says.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: akenaton
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 03:59 PM

CDC says 2%


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: TheSnail
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 04:00 PM

Some statistics


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: akenaton
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 04:09 PM

Some statistics


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: Jeri
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 04:21 PM

I think "Obsession" is the pertinent word here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 04:33 PM

Perhaps i was being flippant in my earlier post. But the point I was trying to make was that whatever the statistics about AIDS/HIV - people are still gay.

heteros share the world with them. They would do well to be more tolerant.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: olddude
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 04:38 PM

How the hell did this get turned into a homosexual thread? Did I miss something ... not how I read c-flat ... talk about thread creep

maybe I am getting old ... good grief


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: TheSnail
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 04:38 PM

So what are you saying, Akenaton, that Sub-Saharan Africans are all gay or that they don't matter?


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: saulgoldie
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 05:21 PM

Don't worry, olddude. The thread will continue as Mudcatters decide and post. Since homophobia is a major part of that "obsession" it is only natural that folks will want to weigh in. But folks have had a lot to say about other aspects of obsession with someone else's penis, vagina, and mouth, aka: "naughty bits."

And given how deeply this issue is felt, I am sure there will be more "non-homosexual" posts. Sex, after all, is one "third rail" of topics that you don't discuss unless you want a long discussion, and maybe some shouting.

Saul


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: saulgoldie
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 01:03 PM

Alright, then. I'll do it. Here's the redirection question:

The best person to make birth control decisions for a woman is a)herself; b)her partner; c)her doctor; d)the courts; e)her spiritual leader; f)someone with strong religious beliefs that she does not share; g)the legislature; h)the legislature from another jurisdiction than the one she lives in; i)her father who raped her; j)the party-goer who drugged her.

This is still about the obsession with someone else's reproductive equipment, so the thread may proceed.

Saul


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: GUEST,999
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 01:37 PM

That would depend on whether or not she was on maternity leave with a union in Wisconsin.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: gnu
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 02:55 PM

saulgoldie... "But folks have had a lot to say about other aspects of obsession with someone else's penis, vagina, and mouth, aka: "naughty bits.""

What about the assholes?







Yeah... made me laugh too. And that's what counts eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 11 Mar 11 - 01:34 PM

So what we gonna do about it, achytony?


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: akenaton
Date: 11 Mar 11 - 05:00 PM

Nothing.... according to 99.9% of posters to this thread Steve!

What's the lives of half a million homosexuals, compared to our egalitarian "liberal" agenda?


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: J-boy
Date: 12 Mar 11 - 12:19 AM

"Naughty Bits" now available in your neighborhood! Collect them all and trade with your friends! Action figures coming soon kids!


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Subject: RE: BS: Obsession with 'Naughty Bits'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 12 Mar 11 - 03:54 AM

One....

Two...

GfS


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