Help: mattie groves

Subject: mattie groves
From: DADGAD
Date: 24 Aug 00 - 08:05 PM

anyone got the riff used to this song?? [e-mail]

Subject: RE: Help: mattie groves
From: Sorcha
Date: 24 Aug 00 - 08:39 PM

Well, I have the Joan Baez sheet music, piano, vocal, and guitar tab..........could zerox and snail mail.

Subject: RE: Help: mattie groves
From: Brendy
Date: 24 Aug 00 - 08:45 PM

I could be a bit hasty, here. The song and the tune are here, at the Mudcat, in the DT, but I haven't seemed to find any sheet music or tabs for it.

I don't like to do this, but there are dulcimer tabs available, plus a few different formats at a Digitrad Mirror Site.

If I have overlooked something at the Mudcat, and if what info I have just posted is available here, then I apologise in advance. There's a whole sea of information here, and sometimes I lose my way around the site, as well. But I don't like to go outside it, if the info is here. So sorry again, if I've missed something.

But....if I could be so bold as to suggest.
Use your 'persona' to help you on figuring out the riff *BG*. I used to do it in that tuning years ago, and if I am not mistaken, Fairport did it in that tuning as well (I'm only going from memory, here), and as it's 2.45 in the morning, here, I don't think the neighbours would be too pleased if I started practising Fairport in the middle of the night!!!
They're all a bunch of old biddies, and oul fellas, and they already think I'm a bit strange.

But all this talk recently of Crazy Man Michael, and now, Mattie, has got me thinking about reviving a few of the old gems. Very few people play them 'out' these days, and I think it's about time some more people did.

Try DADGAD tuning, though, and listen to them doing it a few times, and I hope someone comes up with an easier solution for you before long (along with the tabs for CMM *BG*).

B.

Subject: RE: Help: mattie groves
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 24 Aug 00 - 08:47 PM

Abe Trivett, the 82-year-old East Tennessee farmer and logger from whom I collected a fine version of this ballad, sang it with no "riffs" at all. He just sang it, and I must say I've always liked it that way.

Sandy (still an old folk fogey)

Subject: RE: Help: mattie groves
From: Brendy
Date: 24 Aug 00 - 09:01 PM

I don't know about y'all, but that link up there doesn't work for me. The HTML is OK, I think, but anyway, the URL of it is:

http://www.numachi.com/cgi-bin/rickheit/dtrad/lookup?ti=MATTIEGR&tt=MATTIEGR

B.

Subject: RE: Help: mattie groves
From: gillymor
Date: 24 Aug 00 - 10:51 PM

Here's the notes to the riff from Fairport's version,similar to Doc Watson's version buy not too similar to the old timey, string band version: (in Am) AAAAABAGAAAACDEEEGEBDEDCBAGAAABAGA and a little tag: EFEDCBAGA.

Subject: RE: Help: mattie groves
From: dalek
Date: 25 Aug 00 - 10:20 AM

We have been doing a version of this tune for a while now, based on fairports rendering, except we pu a 'c' in the chord structure to add stompyness, riff we use is..A A Bb-A G A A A C D E D E G E D Bb-A G A Bb C Bb A G A

Hope this helps

Dalek

Subject: RE: Help: mattie groves
From: Peg
Date: 25 Aug 00 - 01:08 PM

just to let you know, this song (among others like Lord Randal, Barbara Allen, etc.) are featured in a new film called "Songcatcher," about a musicologist in the early 1900s who goes to Appalachia for a visit and discovers the mountain people know a whole lotta songs from the Scots-Irish-English traditional canon, and have out their own spin on them...

pretty good movie, except for the syrupy soundtrack that inexplicably does not utilize the very folk music the film purports to be celebrating...

Aidan Quinn is his usual yummy self as a gritty-but-sensitive bango-player...

Iris DeMent also appears, and sings a lovely song...

Peg

Subject: RE: Help: mattie groves
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 25 Aug 00 - 01:27 PM

Is the film based on Cecil Sharp's visits to the US around 1917? Can it be found as a video rental (something I have never done, but might finally be tempted to do!)?

Sandy (still a total folk fogey)