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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 08 Sep 01 - 09:45 PM

Log Driver's Waltz
 
Going To the West
 
Happy Birthday Song
 
Happy Birthday Song
 


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 05:50 AM

WYSIWYG, sure, the more the merrier.


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 09:05 PM

Sleeping At the End of the Bed
 


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 03:51 PM

Here's a cute one:

Three Little Fishes


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 01:45 PM

Thanks for those, Jeri, Lonesome and Mary. Very interesting threads. Really a great education coming here to the Mudcat!


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 12:46 PM

And this old favorite Drinking Gourd


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 12:41 PM

How about Old Paint


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 12:20 PM

The World is Old


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: Jeri
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 12:11 PM

Babes In The Wood


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: Jeri
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 11:57 AM

I'll see George Seto's 2 Dark Island links, and raise him two more:

NEW: The Dark Isle (This is chronologically 1st)
Tune Req: Tune Req: The Dark Isle. Anyone kno (this is chronologically 2nd. George's would be 3rd and 4th)

Also:
The Snows They Melt the Soonest


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 11:11 AM

Bread & Roses - A Women's Labour Song
 
False Bride/I Loved a Lad(Lass)
 
Gentleman Soldier/Sentry Box/Soldier's Cloak
 


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 07:37 AM

Canticle From Scarborough Fair
Wimbeldon Fair
Scarborough Fair
Scarborough Fair - Uncorrupting The Corruptible
 
Magpie
 
Raglan Road
 


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: Gloredhel
Date: 02 Sep 01 - 09:39 PM

You'd better add Raglan Road. (don't know how to do blue clicky)


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 02 Sep 01 - 06:36 PM

Another good thread on the origins of Lavender Blue/Dilly Dilly is Lavender Blue/Dilly Dilly Older Thread


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 02 Sep 01 - 06:03 PM

Ghost Riders in the Sky
 
Ghost Riders In the Sky #1
 


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 28 Aug 01 - 10:38 PM

Found a nice thread that Joe started last year.

Gospel Origin-Civil Rights & Labor Songs


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 18 Aug 01 - 08:48 PM

Canadian Boat Song
 


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 16 Aug 01 - 05:30 PM

Wimoweh/Lion Sleeps Tonight(original)
 


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 10:24 PM

Thanks, Kat. Those threads on the Ode to Billy Joe were great.

Scottish Emigrant's Farewell
 
Bluenose
Bluenose
Bluenose
 
Another one on Kumbya
 
Sea Chanteys That wonderful one that Cranky Yankee started
 


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: katlaughing
Date: 12 Aug 01 - 08:21 PM

Ode to Billy Joe/Tallahassie(sic) Bridge

Ode to Billy Joe /Jumped off a bridge?

Big Rock Candy Mountain, Burl Ives' Version (good stuff on the origin)


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 11 Aug 01 - 01:07 PM

You're absolutely welcome from all of Mudcat's denizons, Gareth. See you around on the 'Cat.


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Aug 01 - 12:59 PM

Superb, simply superb, I will have many happy hours browsing

Thanks to all

Gareth


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 11 Aug 01 - 11:36 AM

I'm sorry about that, Alice! I was only half awake. I really do know better.

Shield Folk, I don't know if we'd wind up with every song, but certainly many of the more popular ones.

It's been fixed to read "Wabash" now
joeclone


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: Shields Folk
Date: 11 Aug 01 - 10:31 AM

Unless every thread relating to song origins is put on this list it will be incomplete. Searching the Digitrad and Forum Searches will bring up information which is missing from this list. The fact that people fail to search the Digitrad before posting suggests that they will post before consulting this thread.Perhaps what we do need is some sort of browse feature on the Digitrad and Forum Search.


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: Alice
Date: 11 Aug 01 - 10:11 AM

George, it's Wabash, (not Wabush).


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 11 Aug 01 - 07:03 AM

Don't know why we didn't put this in here before:

Wabash Cannonball (also defines term Hobo)
 
Wabash Cannonball (discussion of terms)
 
Wabash Cannonball (definition of terms)
 


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: Alice
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 11:08 PM

Kat, the alphabetical list helps to quickly see what would be a duplicate for new links. Thanks. I just recorded Raggle Taggle Gypsy (my version) with a local fiddler, Tom Robison, accompanying. Here's the origins thread for Raggle Taggle Gypsy.


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 10:12 PM

Puff The Magic Dragon needs fixing in the alphabetized list.


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 10:09 PM

Strike the Bell and the second If I Were a Blackbird needs fixing in the alphabetized list.


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 10:08 PM

Oh? Never thought that. Most of these were older threads. I thought they had been harvested or in the DT already.

So far, the alphabetized list looks really good!

All Around The Hat
 
Let Me Fish Off Cape St. Mary's
 


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 09:23 PM

Shields Folk. My intent was to highlight some of the specific threads which talk about the origins of specific songs. So, these links are the quickest way of finding those threads whereby people looking for the origin of a specific song can find it easily.

I had noticed that a number of people recently had started threads asking for where songs came from. A number of threads had shown several threads already existing in the forum which the person originating the request had missed, or not looked for. I got into the search for some of these threads, and they looked very interesting.

Therefore I started this thread so I, and others could find them in one location. Rather than refreshing each one of them, which would have been a major job in itself, and rotated the threads too quickly. Also refreshing each of those threads on a regular basis would have been a pain. This way, only one thread needs to be refreshed to gain access to all these threads.

Here are a couple more I was reading earlier.

Kelligrew's Soiree
 
Casey Jones
 
Wreck of the old '97
 


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: Shields Folk
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 08:00 PM

This thread has entertained a number of folk. But what can we hope to achieve by listing and referencing the threads. We have it all in Mudcat.


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: simon-pierre
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 07:30 PM

St. James Infirmary


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: John Routledge
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 01:31 PM

It is worth a year of enforced reading of burning threads to be able to study threads such as this.

MANY MANY THANKS TO ALL CONTRIBUTORS


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: katlaughing
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 01:18 PM

Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking, Ed. Thanks very muhc. That's what I will do. I will try to get it finished, today.

Thanks, again,

kat


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: UB Ed
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 01:14 PM

Kat, I'd leave the links intact with the comments as well as the alphabetical links on top if it makes little difference from a work or system storage perspective.

Thanks for your efforts.

Ed


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: UB Ed
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 11:22 AM

George, this is perfect!!!!!! Defintiely bookmarked. I suggest the Joe Clones group all the songs alphabetically at the top and retain the thread for the comments as Alice suggested.

Here's another I found interesting as it has Clinton's and the Tequila version:

Whiskey in the Jar

Ed


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 11:08 AM

Yes, katlaughing, I had noticed a couple of duplicates on stuff. I wasn't worried, for one or two. I enjoy seeing the participation.

There were a couple which I had a problem with, so I re-placed them in a message later. But yes, there were two, that I remember, duplicates.

As Alice and yourself said, the organic quality of the comments is interesting in itself.


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: MMario
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 10:17 AM

so do BOTH! collate and alphabatize into the top - but leave the rest of the thread for commentary...


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: Alice
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 09:05 AM

Kat, I guess it would make it easier to scan quickly, as an index, but I enjoy reading people's comments in the thread as it grows. It adds to the connectedness I feel in communicating with other people who also remember these old discussions. I would not like to see the links posted by different people and their comments deleted. The beauty of many of these threads is the commentary that builds around the information, and seeing the way different people participate in the search, not just the facts of the source.

Alice


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 05:45 AM

It sounds quite useful, Katlaughing.


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 12:31 AM

Black Velvet Band
Black Velvet Band
 
Long Black Veil
 


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 08 Aug 01 - 11:09 PM

My Wild Irish Rose
 
Massacre of Glencoe
 
Battle of New Orleans
Battle of New Orleans
 
Lament of the Irish Emigrant
Lament of the Irish Emigrant
Lament of the Irish Emigrant
 


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: John Routledge
Date: 07 Aug 01 - 07:39 PM

Refresh a wonderful thread


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: alison
Date: 06 Aug 01 - 08:49 PM

and possibly the best one we ever had

Spancil Hill

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: pavane
Date: 06 Aug 01 - 06:58 AM

There is also this one on Loch Lomond referencing an early version called Flora's Lament for her Charlie


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 06 Aug 01 - 06:11 AM

When You and I Were Young
 
Red River Valley
 
Westering Home
 
Loch Lomond
Loch Lomond
Loch Lomond
Loch Lomond
Loch Lomond
Loch Lomond & Red Is the Rose
Red Is The Rose
 
Auld Lang Syne
 
Auld Lang Syne
 
Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
 
Northwest Passage
Northwest Passage
 
Barrett's Privateers
 
High Noon/Do Not Forsake Me, Oh My Darling
 


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 06 Aug 01 - 04:47 AM

You're very welcome. Add when you can.

Tom Dooley
 
This Land is My Land (Canadian Version)
 
Peter Amberlay - New Brunswick Song
 
Morning Has Broken
 
Old Rugged Cross
 
My Darling Clementine
 
Keep On the Sunny Side
 
Kumbaya
 
Greensleeves
 
Cowboy's Lament/Streets of Laredo
 


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: Crowhugger
Date: 06 Aug 01 - 03:17 AM

Oh, George, thank you! for this wonderful thread. Definitely for bookmarking.


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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat
From: katlaughing
Date: 06 Aug 01 - 03:06 AM

A few more, thanks to Susanne(skw)!

Roll ON The Day

Molly Maguires

Take The Children and Run

Acres of Clams

Women o'Dundee
Women O'Dundee

Stand Up For Judas


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