BS: What have the Celts ever done for us

Subject: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Pied Piper
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 08:47 AM

Well What ?

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Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: GUEST,GUEST seamus na hooiigaun
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 08:52 AM

You stinking racist English bigot,dont come that stuff with us, so what if we didn't write "Any Old Iron", Fir Bolg, la Tene Culture, Milesians were doing a;gebra before the sassenach scum had leant to wipe their own arses, Cathal Brugha, Dafyydd ap Grwyfyddd ap Shypchaggwyr etc etc.

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Declan
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 08:56 AM

They prevented Rangers from winning the Scottish league 20 years in a row.

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: kendall
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 08:57 AM

The real Celts gave us halloween.

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: greg stephens
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 08:59 AM

Yeah, great, miserable whining dwarves with Dracula fangs demanding chocolates with menaces.

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Mr Furrow
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 09:01 AM

You know folks, there's nothing quite like following a well-argued, reasonable exchange of views to pass a grey afternoon. :o)

Jon

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Clifton53
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 09:02 AM

Not much lately I 'spose, but they were hell back in the day.

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: greg stephens
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 09:04 AM

Nothing racist about my previous remark, I was just referring to some beings that appeared on my doorstep last night out of a crack leading to the underworld. Whether they were Celts or not I have no way of knowing, though as they didnt have freckles and red hair they probably weren't American Hollywood Celts.

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: GUEST,Cindy Parsons
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 09:09 AM

Watch out for that Dave Bulmer, who is ripping off honest musicians by refusing to sell their records and then pocketing the royalties.

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Fiolar
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 09:11 AM

What about the Brehon Laws which for almost three thousand years (until finally destroyed by the English) were the most civilised and fair in the whole of Europe? Read your history and weep for what is gone.

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Dead Horse
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 09:12 AM

Knots?

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 09:15 AM

Knots and Crosses?

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: smallpiper
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 09:21 AM

Roads, railways and canals (well their decendants did anyway)not to mention music, literature and the arts.

apart from that not a lot really I suppose duh!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: greg stephens
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 09:25 AM

Don't foget relaxation tapes with low D whistles.

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Mr Furrow
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 09:25 AM

Mcdonalds?

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 09:29 AM

The first truly intelligent art form?
(Referring, naturally, to a material culture described as Celtic rather than to a ethnic classification of tribes. Just to avoid contention.)

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: JedMarum
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 09:35 AM

festivals

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: JedMarum
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 09:36 AM

... and they contributed quite heavily to the wrld's gene pool

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Snuffy
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 09:49 AM

They provided the English speakers with suitable practice material before taking over N America, Australia, much of Africa etc.

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Pied Piper
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 09:50 AM

Celtic Genes? come come lets keep this civilised. There is no Gene for speaking Celtic languages. Though some people I know who've tried to learn Welsh might not believe it.
PP

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Fiolar
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 10:18 AM

No doubt Adam Hart-Davis will soon be doing a TV series on "What the Celts etc....". After all he has done everybody else.

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: smallpiper
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 10:18 AM

There's a Gene for everything!

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 10:30 AM

They fought in battle stark naked, and thus paved the way for the streakers of today.

Murray

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Gareth
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 10:40 AM

Yus - A naked Celtic battle wall, all waving thier fearsome weapons at the English.

It reminds me of the story of the Roman Legion marching into the Blaenau (tr Hills) Misty, dark, raining. Out of the mist a voice calls "One Welshman is worth 2 Romans" - The two nearest legionaires depart into the mist at a run. A fearsome clashing, a curdling scream or two then silence.

A voice calls out from the mist "One Welshman is worth 10 Romans" - 10 romans dash up the mountainside. Again a clash of arms, screams and then silence.

The voice calls out of the mist "One Welshman is worth a whole Centuary of Romans" The Legion commander details off a Centuary, the Centurian at the head, they march up the hill. As the mist closes in on them they see a figure sore wounded crawling down. " Carefull Centurian, it's a trap - Theres two of them out there !!"

Gareth

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 10:40 AM

When the ancient Celts, and especially those cool Druids sarted tuning their guitars in DADGAD, they paved the way for a couple of years of brilliantly innovative instrumental and vocal music.....AND twenty years of repetitive boring Celtoid albums.

First they added a Nigerian drummer to the band and made "Afro-celtoid" music.

Then came the Cape Breton fiddler: Afro-Mari-Celtoid.

The friggin' didgeridoo made it: Austro-Afro-Mari-Celtoid.

The conjunto accordionist made it Austro-Afro-Mari-Mexi-Celtoid.

Darn, I wish those Druids had played harps (diatonic ones)

Rick

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: greg stephens
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 10:42 AM

The genetic point is interesting. Modern historical/archaelogical work seems to be tending more and more towards the "cultural diffusion" model, as opposed to old"big population movement/invasion", until post-Roman empire, say. This changes post 300AD, so it is currently supposed that the subsequent changes did indeed involve substantial population movement(Anglo-Saxons into England, Irish Gaels into Scotland, and probably Britons into Brittany, to quote the relevant ones here). The implication is that Ireland and Britain had a fairly stable genetic pool up to around 300AD, going back many thousand years.
   Now, it is becoming established that are genetic differences observable between Wales, ireland and England, and between the West of England and the east. The interesting corollary to this is that as the AnglSaxons were coming from the Celtic heartland of Europe (genetically speaking) into an area with a substantially unchanged "old population" which had acquired Celtic cuture and language by a diffusion process. not by substantial invasions of people.
    So the latest position, which seems quite well documented and becoming more so, is that genetically speaking the English are the ones with the "Celtic" genes, and the Irish and Welsh aren't. Funny, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Midchuck
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 10:44 AM

A surly and pessimist Druid,
A defeatist, if only he knew it,
Said: "The world's on the skids,
And I think having kids
Is a waste of good seminal fluid!"

P.

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Midchuck
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 10:45 AM

Love the automatic linebreak feature.

Thanks, Max.

P.

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: MMario
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 10:54 AM

just did a little checking on the web - according to various sites the celts invented the handsaw, the rotary mill for grain, soap, iron rimmed wagon wheels, the greek gods (according to one page they all derived from celtic dieties) the Indian Civilization (suppossedly one branch of celts became the Hindu's); faster horses; the legend of the trojan war; the domestication of apples; the italian wine industry; Judiasm;

and of course that the original inhabitants of the Americas were Celts.

They also built stonehenge and taught the Egyptians how to build pyramids.

At least that's what various websites say - and we know they couldn't put it on the web if it weren't true?

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 10:55 AM

Rick you beat me to it and elaborated more than I was going to...my answer was just going to be

World Music!

**BG**

kat

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Fingerbuster
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 11:19 AM

Bushmills, Jamiesons, Blackbush, Guinness, Murphy's, Bellhaven, Deuchars, Malt whisky etc etc.

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Art Thieme
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 11:57 AM

LARRY BIRD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What more can be said??

(art thieme)

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: GUEST,A Supporter
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 12:13 PM

Jock straps!!

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: GUEST,Cretinous Yahoo
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 12:15 PM

And, Morticia.

Matt McGinn wrote a song about the Welch/Roman dustup. It's called Grig a loo, and, it was two Scots in the song.

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: GUEST,The Big Yin
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 12:16 PM

Billy Connolly. Yeah
Who also qualifies under the running joke thread mentioned elsewhere. He can keep 1 joke going for hours.

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 12:19 PM

What more can be said, Art?

Well for a start , how about telling the UK Mudcatters who the hell Larry Bird is ? (Basketball doesn't have a high profile in GB)

Murray

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Ringer
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 12:55 PM

Mcdonalds!!! Thanks for the best laugh in ages, Mr Furrow.

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 01:55 PM

little john cameron (may he rest in peace)

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 03:31 PM

Well said Kat, I'm with you 100%
Failte.....Giok

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 03:45 PM

I'll say this for them...

They made the BEST targets a viking could ever want!

"Never give a Celt an even break... Compound fractures heal slower"
--Hagar The Horrible--

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Penny S.
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 06:20 PM

I'll go for the technology above, plus the combine harvester- Adam H-D did that under the Romans, but he attributed it properly to the Gauls, I think. (I've seen it in a Pelican history of technology). I don't think the mythology has it quite right, but they went to Delphi, Turkey and Galicia, as well as upsetting some Roman geese. A number of the early church fathers were Gauls.

Penny

And if any re-enactors in Kent (Celtic name) want some early type domesticated apples, I know where there is one in the public domain.

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Gareth
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 06:23 PM

I still fancy waving my fearsom weapon !!!!

Gareth

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Penny S.
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 06:23 PM

One tree, that is, not apple.

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: GUEST,Bill
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 07:39 PM

I see Fingerbuster knows his Celtic bottles nice to hear from you again
Bill(the sound)

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: mack/misophist
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 11:55 PM

This may or may not seem like a plus to you, it's hard to say. According to Will and Ariel Durant, the Irish invented soap; thought the Romans were dirty because they wouldn't use it. Me, I think I'd rather spend half the day in a nice calidarium and finish off with a massage and a nice stridgle.

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Coyote Breath
Date: 02 Nov 02 - 02:26 AM

A never ending debate as to the "correct" pronunciation of 'Celt'.

CB

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 02 Nov 02 - 02:39 AM

They went extinct...

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 02 Nov 02 - 03:16 AM

Much Celtic wisdom has emanated from the Great Glens---Glen Fiddich, Glenmorangie, Glen Grant-----

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: belfast
Date: 02 Nov 02 - 11:36 AM

"How The Irish Saved Civilization" by Thomas Cahill Click here. (Just love them blue clickies.) In this book the historian Thomas Cahill tells how the Irish saved civilization in the years following the decline and fall of the Roman Empire.

Some of my compatriots think he understates the case. They believe the Irish invented civilisation.

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: The Pooka
Date: 02 Nov 02 - 12:34 PM

LOL / Hee hee hee hee hee / woo woo

Yes & How about: humor at one's own expense. (I'd say "self-deprecating", but that might open the fluidgates for them childless surly & pessimist Druids. Not to mention, Mr. Catspaw. I TOLD you not to mention Mr. Catspaw...)

Alleluias. Twilight. Runes. Dunes. Nowait, OKOK, that was the Arabs and Frank Herbert.

Threads like this. It's an adaptation from physics: the ard-Thropic principle. The Celts are the way they are because we are here discussing them.

Mythical Oh-What-Lovely Wars. ("Who's that singin'?" "Aaah some Welsh bastard over in the next trench." :)

Myles na gCopaleen.

Sincerely,
- The Pooka Fergus MacPhellimey

PS: Invisible rabbits & cyclically-reappearing mischievous divils.

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: 53
Date: 02 Nov 02 - 12:46 PM

I don't know what a Celt is.

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: belfast
Date: 02 Nov 02 - 12:46 PM

And mention of the great Myles na gCopaleen reminds me, surely it was the Irish who invented the bicycle. Any fool could invent the wheel, but to put one wheel in front of another ...?

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Don Firth
Date: 02 Nov 02 - 12:56 PM

Well, my great-grandfather came from the Orkneys, although he might well have been more Viking than Celt.

Other than that, I don't follow basketball that much. . . .

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Penny S.
Date: 02 Nov 02 - 06:42 PM

St Gall, I think it was, at any rate, one of the peripatetic Celtic Christians who reconverted Europe, was notable for being able to read without speaking the words, a hitherto unknown skill. And I have heard that it was the Irish monks who inventedwritingtextswithgapsbetweenwordsthusmakingthemmorereadable.

Forget linebreaks - without word breaks, where would we be?

Penny

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Gareth
Date: 02 Nov 02 - 07:16 PM

Ogham ????

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: The Pooka
Date: 02 Nov 02 - 07:18 PM

belfast - ha HA! The bicycle it is then. The brother says of course you're right, and your man above in the digs do be sittin' out upon the docks of the mighty shipyards below with your men the seals and the birds. Cheerio, here's me bus, don't do anything unless your uncle's with you.

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: GUEST,Brian F. Hannon of ARDBOE County TYRONE
Date: 02 Nov 02 - 07:39 PM

According to Clever Men and Women of Education the Mesolithic Peoples first settled Ireland at the Mouth of The River Bann . They decided to settle there when they saw the Vast Shoals of Atlantic SALMON arriving each late Winter heading up river to the the Great Lake NEAGH and its ten rivers System . The Indigenous Peoples all over the Watershed harvested this Bounty of The Great Spirit from then till the Year 1661 when an English King gave the Monoply of the Salmon Trade , and The River Bann , and LOUGH NEAGH all 102,790 acres of it to Reward the Military Services of a WARLORD by Royal Charter to the WARLORD's HEIR . The Crown also had earlier rewarded THE HONOURABLE THE IRISH SOCIETY with Fishing Previleges in the tidal portion of the River . These Royal Acts DELETED all IRISH Rights till DATE , the Indigenous Native Irish Fisher People being just mostly ignored and barely tolerated to harvest the Coarse Fish For FOOD and Subsistence Economy there after till date. That is NOW this YEAR 2002 . Seeing as This Is JUBILEE Year Might Not It Be A GOOD IDEA that one of YOU ENGLISH should suggest to your Queen to return LOUGH NEAGH and The River BANN back to THE IRISH PEOPLE seeing as ten generations of Grantees have reduced the Shoals to Remnant Numbers . You have only two months left to achieve this .

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Nov 02 - 10:04 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: GUEST,Billy
Date: 02 Nov 02 - 11:49 PM

Sorry Guest,
I don't understand why you have posted this stupid (and if you think it is true just send your bank account number to them)letter from OBO as it has no relevance to the thread, but at least most Celts can write in proper english, thanks to the Scottish educational system.
Unfortuneately, due to the long English domination of these islands, very few of us now speak the celtic languages, in which some of the most exquisite songs and poems have been written, and translate awkwardly into English.
The music is our gift and continues to be heard across the globe.

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: Coyote Breath
Date: 03 Nov 02 - 12:07 AM

Oy vey! is this a silly thread? or what? I'm stuck here on a Saturday night, archieving thousands of reeeely old "folk" music songs to MP3 files so's I can write them to a buncha CDs which take up less space, &C. What are the rest a youse up to. So belfast, did ya see that the SF bookstore has a new book about yer man?

sincerely yours,
Chuck E. Arlah
(yankwank)

I need another beer!

Jeanie West can't sing!

Joe Glazer sounds like he is singing for the masses and believes they are too dim to understand his words. Cisco Houston sounds as though he considered himself God's gift to women. Only Guthrie sounds like a real person, singing real songs.

Maybe a little rum would help.

CB

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 03 Nov 02 - 03:58 AM

Hey! Enough o' this doin' down Scottish inventors!Mr Belfast---the man who built and rode the first bicycle just happens to be my Great-great uncle, Kirkpatrick MacMillan [long deceased] . He built his bike in the smiddy at Kier , near Dunscore, in Dumfries-shire, and rode it all the way to Glesca, where he was fined for colliding wi' a young lassie. There is a bike displayed in the museum by [Constable's ] Flatford Mill, which is claimed to be K.MacM's original---though I cannae vouch for the authenticity o' that.

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 03 Nov 02 - 04:00 AM

Aye, "53" --naebuddy kens you either----

Subject: RE: BS: What have the Celts ever done for us
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 03 Nov 02 - 04:06 AM

Well, well, Billy!! I agree totally with your comment on Scottish education. A tad unfortunEate, however, considering the subject you discuss, the spelling of unfortunEatly!! [Oh!!--I'll hae tae mind my spellin' frae noo oan]!!.
And I haven't been at the whisky tonight---honest!