BS: What do men want?

Subject: BS: What do men want?
From: Peace
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 09:43 PM

Time for the flip side.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Sorcha
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 09:50 PM

To get laid??? (grin)

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Amos
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 09:52 PM

What -- you're disqualifying yourself?

They want above all to be reassured that they are good.

They want to sleep a lot, some of them -- and almost all of them want to be told they are exciting, socially or humorously, or emotionally, or intellectually, or sexually, or just in general.

They want to be assured they are creating good effects and are admirable.

They want to be told it is all right. And that they are right.

:>)

A

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Peace
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 09:54 PM

Cool.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 10:07 PM

Ahhhh, that's an easy one: cold beer and an occasional set of new strings...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Peace
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 10:10 PM

Any of you guys want chocolate with your orgasms? Just curious.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 10:22 PM

depends on how/where it is applied

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 10:22 PM

Milk chocolate or that bitter cookin' stuff?

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Peace
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 10:26 PM

It's becoming clear that this thread will not be taken seriously. Goodbye touchy-feely; hello "show up naked, bring beer."

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 10:38 PM

more

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 10:38 PM

Okay, brucie, I'll take a stab (no pun intended) at it... I mean, it ain't like I know much 'bout this kinda stuff and I reckon that I realy shouldn't go lettin' the cat outta the bag 'cause, unlike the womenz who is swored to secrecy, we men, ahhhh, just gotta go and run our mouths.... So, of this in embaressin', sho nuff is... Ahhhh, like a man wnats feel like "da man". Sho nuff do! Ain't that right, guys?

Like we don't want no womenz to say stuff like "Ahhhhh, is that it?" 'er "My last husband didn't drink that much!", 'er "This jus ain't workin' fir me!"... No sir, 'er mame, we menz wanta think that we got the bases covered and it's up to you womenz to lie yer danged heads off and feed our fragile little egos... Purdy simple.

Okay, ya' all don't like that answer then, what the hey, it's back to cold beer and an occasional new set of strings fir the Martin...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: jimmyt
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 10:41 PM

to be thought of as something other than a sexual object constantly even though my line of thongs is scintillating. Sometimes I just want to be held. Sometimes to just be appreciated for my mind. (God, it is tough being a folk music Adonis.)

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: pdq
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 10:43 PM

"a pickup truck that runs and a woman who don't"

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: open mike
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 10:44 PM

if you ask me--and i guess you did--
i think they want to be able to get
away with as much (hanky panky) as
they can--without regard for their
partner(s)

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 10:49 PM

Men? They want to be loved and to give love, and they want a strong sense of purpose, and they like to have some fun now and then too. They want to be valued and appreciated until (and if) they reach enlightenment...at that point they simply love everyone so much already that they're not worried about getting love back anymore. Such men (and women) are rare, but they do exist.

Add to this the fact that souls reincarnate as both male and female (in different successive lives, I mean), and you will see that a "war between the sexes" is a nonsensical notion, mainly driven by temporary cultural influences. A soul is seamlessly inclusive of both genders, but normally incarnates as one or the other in a specific physical lifetime. Either way carries its own unique challenges, that's for sure.

What do men most envy about women? My guess is: multiple orgasms. :-)

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Peace
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 10:50 PM

Need a political thread for that: Multipe Orgasms for Men, Now.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 10:58 PM

A cause worth fighting for! (in a nonviolent way, of course)

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 11:00 PM

Dammit brucie! I was going to start this thread, but I was going to say

"What do men want - apart from THAT?"

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 11:10 PM

Most men also want toys. Lots of toys. Toys can vary from simple things like an airplane model or an electric shaver or a jacknife with multiple attachments to more complex things like a full-sized airplane or a surround sound system with a giant TV screeeeeeeeeen or a 500hp roto-tiller or a yacht. It goes on and on, and is responsible for a huge chunk of the consumer economy.

Women are not so much into toys as they are into accessories. This also helps drive the economy in a big way.

There are some exceptions to the above examples, however! Some women like certain toys too, and some men like accessories.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: SINSULL
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 11:12 PM

To be told that size doesn't matter? I bet Bert to it.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 11:17 PM

Size of what? (grin)

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Peace
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 11:20 PM

Wallet.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 11:30 PM

Oh. Right. Of course.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Once Famous
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 11:31 PM

What? You mean you guys DON'T get multiple orgasms?

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: GUEST,peedeecee
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 01:33 AM

There's a story that after Adam and Eve were created, God visited them with a bag in His hand, saying "I just remembered a couple of things I forgot to give you. The first is" -- and He reached into the bag -- "the ability to pee standing up."

Leaping to his feet, Adam exclaimed, "Woah, yeah! Right on, God! Wow, peeing standing up! I can write my initials, and I don't have to undo all those clothes, and I'll look so cooooool. Yeah, gimme that, God, pleasepleasepleaseplease!!" Eve smiled, and said, "Oh, let him have it if he wants it that much."

"Fine, Eve," said God, "then you can have the other" -- reaching into the bag -- "multiple orgasms."

(My husband doesn't think that joke is funny. I laugh hysterically.)

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 03:00 AM

Martin's orgasms are all between his ears....

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 03:21 AM

Judging from the on-again-off-again-on-again thing I find myself in, some of them want a woman who *doesn't* put out... seems that if you're up front and happy to have a bit of fun, they run off and look for a girl who's more of a challenge. Hmph. Double standards!

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: maggiethecat
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 03:32 AM

A Beautiful Woman who adores him
Co-Workers who respect him
Friends who laugh at his jokes
Parents who boast about him
A Family who gives him TV time
Siblings who are just slightly envious of him


And a 10"...


(The only difference between the genders I can see here is the last...and if it ended in "...chocolate", it would work for the fair sex as well.)

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 03:51 AM

Blow jobs blow jobs blow jobs we are quite easily satisfied really

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Gurney
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 04:04 AM

When you are young... That's been covered.

Later on,
A beer with his fish-and-chips, a job that is interesting and worth doing, a woman who suits him, a cup of tea, bitter and sour rather than sweet things (except that woman), a new author (all my favourite ones have quit or died), peace when he needs it, a reliable vehicle, lots of tools, friends, music, fishing, and somewhere like Mudcat.
Her
Her Indoors says that I must have a brilliant life.(She's looking over my shoulder!)

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 05:01 AM

I'd settle for a Mastertone TB250 and a Loar F5, oh and unlimited amounts of beer.

eric

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: HRH ted of hull
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 05:02 AM

A good seeing to on a regular basis.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: MBSLynne
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 06:44 AM

ER....Me??

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: s6k
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 06:57 AM

^ Thats funny !!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: kendall
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 07:03 AM

T o given a reason to stay home.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 07:47 AM

A woman who stays awake till he finishes... :-)

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 09:44 AM

Mutual love and support, plus a sympathetic ear.

Giok

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 10:16 AM

Too bloody much, or not enough.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 10:21 AM

A world where everyone cares for everyone else but as that seems impossible, I will settle for all the good things others have mentioned on the thread.
Best wishes.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 10:29 AM

Mangos, papayas, bananas, banana dacquiris, whiskey, good cigars, a cheap but good restaurant, a new hat, a tommy gun that always works...first time every time, enough money comin' in, a car that don't stall, a good secretary to mind the office, and a classy dame with really long legs to do the town with. That, and respect.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 11:42 AM

MONEY.................... it may not be everything but it sure helps.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 11:45 AM

Oh............... and lots of gay sex.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 11:55 AM

The men I know want, among other things, to know that they are fully human, unique, and valued for thier uniqueness-- that they are not considered expendable.

They want to know they do not have to go to war, that they do not have to always be the protector, that they do not have to kill or be killed.

They want to know that a woman is able to look after herself and be a partner.

They want women to interrupt and refrain from any form of male bashing. They want women who mother boys to mother them well and in a healthy fashion.

They want the woman to speak up and be clear about whether she is or is not interested in being a sexual partner-- they like knowing when they can take a break from the constant pursuit-rejection/conquer role sexually nd can relax in safety with a female friend who will enjoy them exactly as they are.

They want women to understand them without controlling them or manipulating them to change, and without mothering them in whatever way their mother mis-mothered them.

They want to be able to be close to other men without being accused of being gay or weak or needy or silly, and without always having to compete with them.

They want it to be safe enough.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 12:11 PM

Well said, Susan

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 12:22 PM

someone to look after them while they grow old just like there mother did.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 12:22 PM

Sheesh! Do these men you're speakin' of also still need their teddy bear when they're tucked in at night?

I may be a relic, but these don't sound like men I would want workin' on a case with me. It ain't never "safe". Life is a risk-takin' adventure. As for "male-bashin'", I would tend to look upon that as a form of flirtation. Doesn't bother me.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Bill D
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 12:22 PM

excellent, Susan...at least that's about what SENSIBLE men would want....and if they find a woman who understands that list, they are fortunate beyond belief.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 12:26 PM

Very astute and sensitive Susan and goes a long way towards describing what men really want. Probably an impossibility for some women to either grasp this or be able to do anything about it if they do grasp it. But then, my experiences are the basis for the comment.. and not all men have suffered my fate(s). Not blaming women for my relationship problems as such...I'm sure I was not all I should have been either! I was certainly "expendable"
Best wishes.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 12:29 PM

Just reporting what they said. :~)

It is reemarkable, however, how well relationships with men can go, when one keeps all that in mind and acts like it is so, no matter what one is seeing on the surface.

Chimps, now-- that's different. I have no idea what they want as I do not yet understand/speak chimp or sign language. Horse, cat, dog-- those I understand/speak with some facility. But not chimp. :~)

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Bill D
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 12:31 PM

Oh...and about multiple orgasms. I have those---Monday,Wednesday, Friday...*grin*

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Amos
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 12:35 PM

Decade by decade...but who's countin??? LOL!

A

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 01:03 PM

I want a woman to love/like me for what I am, not for what she thinks she can make of me!

Giok

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 03:38 PM

I want a woman!!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: GUEST,amergin
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 03:43 PM

we want to be reassured that (             ) is really 12 inches...

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 03:45 PM

6" is adequate Amergin..for those who are honest eh???

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Don Firth
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 03:51 PM

Good post, Susan.

With Barbara, I'm a lucky man. And I'd say your husband is a lucky man, too.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: GUEST,Lilyfestre
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 04:04 PM

I can't speak for any other man than my husband, but I know he wants to come home to a hug and a kiss at the end of the day, intelligent conversation, laughter, to be cherished, to be needed, a clean house (he works outside the home and I don't...so that's a fair request), a decent meal, time for himself and his hobbies (fishing, guitar playing, reading, building bamboo fly rods, etc), a wife with her own thoughts, likes, dislikes and a life of her own, (that would be me!!!) a challenging career, and all good things for our family. He wants privacy from the world and a few select people to do things with.

In a nutshell, he wants a peaceful, simple life with his family. :)

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: open mike
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 04:35 PM

what they are NOT gonna get--these days...
http://www.funpages.com/goodwifes/

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 04:37 PM

Michelle you are very well blessed. Best wishes, Mike.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 06:30 PM

Never mind what they want, what do they need?!

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: kendall
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 07:23 PM

A reason to stay home.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 08:40 PM

what do monkeys want. the rhesus monkeys probably wants something different from the chimpanzees.

I tend to think of my self as a colobus - you know sort of cute.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 08:55 PM

I suppose it's not fair to generalize, just like it wasn't fair to generalize in the *What women want* thread, but anyway....

So my girlfriend is moving to this new apartment. Already she's thinking about repainting. It's a duplex with a yard, and the landlord said he'd knock a couple of bucks off the rent if she keeps the grass mowed. I volunteered, because I don't mind mowing grass. It gives me a good excuse to drink cold beer on a hot day. I like the exercise and the mechanical mantra of a small engine relaxes me. The yard looks good after I'm done, too.

But I have to move all her heavy furniture, and I'll probably ruin a shirt or two with paint drippings.

So now I'm in a fix. I've been pressed into duty for something I didn't agree to. The wallpaper is fairly new, it doesn't look bad. She doesn't like it though, because it looks too "busy."

The moving sucks, but at least I can see some logic to that. It's pretty clear that if you want your stuff to follow you when you go somewhere else, you have to take it with you. The painting, on the other hand...why do all that work to walls whose coverings are in perfectly good shape, all because you don't like the pattern? It's insane. Wait till the wallpaper needs replacing in a couple of years or so, then do whatever. That would be my suggestion.   

When the relationship gets to this "yes, dear" nadir, I'm out of there. I can't take all this domesticated crap. "Domesticated" sounds too much like "emasculated," or "castrated." Too much "-ated" for me. I swear, I'll move her in, I'll mow the yard, but I'm not picking up a paintbrush.

I have a good idea to wash and wax my car before the winter comes, but I wouldn't ask my girlfriend to help, because I know it's an idea she doesn't think much of. My feelings aren't hurt. I'll wash and wax the car on my own, no problem. She can paint her bedroom while I'm doing it.

Men want women who come up with great ideas to bring them to fruition without any help from the men, unless the men think it's a great idea too. That's about as general as I can get.

I mean it, the first coat of primer that goes on those walls, I'm going to be on a riverbank watching the boats go by while I drown a few worms and enjoy my freedom. I may be sleeping by myself, but by damn I'll at least be happy.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: mg
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 08:59 PM

Set your boundaries about the paint. You are under no obligation to help her paint. She can hire it done, ask the landlord to do it, or have friends over to help. If you marry her, make sure you spell out exactly what you are willing and not willing to do. if you are not in to home maintenance, don't get a Victorian fixer. If she is set on that, she needs to find another man...mg

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Peace
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 10:34 PM

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat and drink beer.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 02:20 AM

Well, from a Philosophical Viewpoint, examining both related threads, it is clear that - whatever it is that each group wants - men want less - but that Women have been wanting it longer.

:-)

Robin

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 05:14 AM

A nice sailor.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: bumstump
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 05:18 AM

My J160E pop guitar like what the Beatles didn't play. See my thread in the music section.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: kendall
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 08:59 AM

Doing such things together is part of a viable relationship. However, if you are a Taurus, you may understand this. One day I came home (back when I was married to a woman who drove me to drink, for which I am still grateful) and one of the girls had put her elbow through the wallpaper over the hole in the chimmney where the stove used to be.
So, they stripped off all the paper, and when I got home my wife said "Now you have to paint the ceiling." I replied, The hell I do."
Two years later she hired a guy to do it.
What got up my nose was the fact that I wasn't consulted about removing the wallpaper, and she couldn't understand my stubbornness about the ceiling.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: GUEST,Lilyfestre
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 09:09 AM

So you would have preferred for your partner to have waited and asked if the hole should be fixed or not? A certain song comes to mind....

There's a hole in the bucket dear Liza, dear Liza,
There's a hole in the bucket dear Liza, a hole.

Well then FIX IT dear Henry, dear Henry, dear Henry
Well the FIX IT dear Henry, the bucket, a hole.......

I do agree that you should have been asked to paint the ceiling and not have been given a demand.

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: GUEST,SueB
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 12:11 PM

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that different men want different things. For instance, my first husband wanted a mommy, and my second, to be a Hero - but whatever they think they want, they all seem to require having their ego stroked - constantly.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 01:25 PM

Then you get men who basically want to be left alone. Those types usually don't marry, if they're wise. :-) (My grandfather went deaf as a form of self-defence as far as I could see.)

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 01:34 PM

It's a wise man (and woman) who knows what suits.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Peace
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 01:47 PM

"they all seem to require having their ego stroked - constantly."

I'm gonna post this same remark on the "What do women want?" thread and see if I get slammed for sex-role stereotyping. I'll let you know.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 02:37 PM

SueB, I'm sorry your personal experiences have left you with such a poor conclusion about men.

For me, and most men I've known, ego-massaging is something we do for each other with love, or you're not with the right guy. I mean this in the best sense of the phrase.

We all have egos, and I can't imagine not wanting to show my respect for someone I love by not making sure they know they're the greatest.

And I'd hope they'd want to offer me the same. NO ONE is without ego, Sue.

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: MAG
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 03:25 PM

"and she couldn't understand my stubbornness about the ceiling. "

You can tell a man from Maine ...

I took great commfort from Sinsull's post about the men in her family. I am about to go for a visit, and I will remember the bit about, so they scream and yell, and you wait patiently, and the world doesn't end, and they can't believe you didn't back down when they screamed and yelled.

MA still looking for some who don't scream and yell to make you    back down.

Unfortunately those are the types running the country at the moment.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 03:32 PM

Some people are just too stupid to see an asshole coming.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: mg
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 03:35 PM

Gosh..no man has ever screamed or yelled at me, (including my dear departed father) or tried to really impose his will on me either...of course after Patrick Fantastic the bar was set so high...and they haven't exactly broken my door down either and that is a factor..but for some reason I am not the sort of person that men seem to want to boss around...and I don't want to boss them around either...and I am fairly, somewhat subservient..plus I hate arguments...and I am a worse housekeeper than most of them so I wouldn't be nagging about housework...who knows.. mg

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 04:27 PM

My father was/is the type that screams and yells...but not usually at his wife...mostly at his children...maybe occasionally at his wife. It's a very dysfunctional way to raise a child, and indicates an inability to control one's own emotions, and a lack of respect for other people. It is of no benefit to a healthy marriage either.

Wise men and women avoid teaming up with such individuals.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: GUEST,SueB
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 05:51 PM

Gee whiz, brucie, I thought sex-role stereotyping was what this thread is all about (and the other one about what women want.) Sorry to have touched a nerve, there.

And KissKissEllenPolly? You're too much.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Peace
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 05:57 PM

Take a pill SueB. You make a generalization like that, it shows what you're like I guess. Next time, choose more wisely.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Peace
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 05:58 PM

. . . and Sue, maybe I'm the one that touched a nerve.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Cluin
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 06:01 PM

Don't mind at all having my ego constantly stroked. After all, the thread asks what do men want, not what do they get.

Who wouldn't want their ego stroked, male or female?

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: GUEST,SueB
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 06:37 PM

Wow, brucie. This sure must be one sore subject for you. How come you're so upset?

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Peace
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 06:45 PM

Why did you post a sexist remark, Sue?

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Peace
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 06:46 PM

Incidentally, I'm not upset at all. I am however curious as to what is eating you.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: GUEST,SueB
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 08:49 PM

Curious enough to want me to take a pill, eh? Lighten up, brucie. I'm sorry to have damaged your fragile ego. (There, now, I've apologized to you twice.) I prefaced my remark by saying that I think different men want different things. And I never said women don't like having their egos stroked too. As Cluin said, who wouldn't want their ego stroked?

Amos said: "...almost all of them want to be told they are exciting, socially or humorously, or emotionally, or intellectually, or sexually, or just in general."   (Stroke, stroke)

He also said: "They want to be assured they are creating good effects and are admirable."

This is what I'm talking about when I say that men seem to require having their ego stroked. Men seem to want to be admired. (Women, according to the other thread, would settle for being listened to.) (And Cluin, maybe, would settle for having something else beside his ego stroked...:0> )

Clearly, Amos put it better than me, or at least it was more palatable coming from him. If you find my version to be unflattering, sorry. (There - that's three apologies.)

I do actually think men and women are different, for reasons starting with nature and ending with nurture. And I think I'm fortunate to be in a relationship based on mutual love and respect and trust and tolerance, where both parties are mature and secure enough not to require constant ego-massaging. I am willing to provide a little ego-stroking now and then in exchange for all I get in return. My statement, that men seem to require having their ego stroked, (or as Amos put it, want to be told they're exciting and admirable) was an observation, not a value judgement.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: harpgirl
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 09:14 PM

Martin Gibson just wants to be part of the gang but that dang ******RAGE***** gets in the way!

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Peace
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 09:54 PM

Thank you, Sue. Very enlightening.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: Peace
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 10:01 PM

Sue, there is nothing fragile about my ego. I found your remark to be very insulting to ALL men in that it was made as a sweeping generalization that has no foundation in fact--a kinda "all blondes are dumb" statement. I find your apology to be fake--disingenuous if you will. I will not carry this argument further. I suspect you will. OK by me.

PS Hope your sis is doing well.

BM

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: GUEST,SueB
Date: 25 Aug 04 - 11:28 AM

The Germans have it all under control:

BERLIN (Reuters) - A leading German dictionary publisher plans to launch a guide it says will help men translate the subtext of female conversation.

   

The Langenscheidt publishing group, best known for its well-respected yellow foreign language dictionaries, will launch sales of a 128-page book to translate such baffling female banter as: "Let's just cuddle" into "No sex tonight please!."


"Each themed chapter offers men behavioral tips and exposes hidden messages transmitted by women in everyday situations, such as on holiday or during shopping trips," said Silke Exius, chief editor at Langenscheidt.


Other examples in the "German-Woman/Woman-German" edition due out in October include explaining why a woman asks a man to take interest in the pair of shoes she may be trying on.


She wants him to look because he's about to pay for them.


So, according to Langenscheidt, what men want is a dictionary. Too funny.

Subject: RE: BS: What do men want?
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Aug 04 - 07:18 PM

I have an entry for the dictionary, if it's not already in there: "Why don't you ever take out the garbage?" means, "Do you still love me?"