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Subject: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST,sorefingers Date: 01 Jul 06 - 12:51 AM They are daily becomming more and more nutz. Laura 'The Shrieker' Ingraham calling in to her own show because global warming has nearly drowned D.C. said she was hugging a tree...well duhhhh and going on and on about the why and wherefore of it all. Meanwhile in an Airport somewhere in the south, Rush Bumraw was being arrested AGAIN for having illegal drugs, ie narcotics. Then we have books by Culter, et al, slamming the mothers of Iraq war dead for supporting peace movements. What's next? Mc Carthy lyncings? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Bev and Jerry Date: 01 Jul 06 - 02:10 AM What's next? They're opposing renewal of the 1965 Voting Rights Act because the existance of the act implies that some folks might be racist. Bev and Jerry |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: John MacKenzie Date: 01 Jul 06 - 04:35 AM Listening to somebody from South Dakota on the radio today, here in the UK. They are boasting about how near they are to overturning Roe v Wade, and reckon with the 2 new Supreme Court Judges now in place, and another one due in time to coincide with their campaign, overturning it is a cinch. Giok |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Bunnahabhain Date: 01 Jul 06 - 05:13 AM You would think a few years of news from the Middle East might just have convinced most people that fundementalism and theocracies are not a good idea. But there are none so blind as those that will not see. From an outsiders perspective, it is very scary just how much influence those at the extreme end of a whole spectra of opinions seem to have, on what was once a relativly normal country.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Bill D Date: 01 Jul 06 - 11:16 AM Yes...and it even more scary to live here! They have discovered how to influence and wield power by appealing to special interest groups in targeted campaigns where their real agenda is barely mentioned. The whole point is to inflict their narrow views on the country at large....all in the name of 'righteousness'. All we can hope for is that Bush & Co. will continue to mess up for another 2 years so badly that we swing 5-6% of the votes the other way. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST,sorefingers Date: 01 Jul 06 - 12:40 PM Latest looneymonkie is Mark Davis ( originaly only heard in Texas but now syndicated ...ie you can hear this nut nationwide ). His claim to a seat near the chief butt-monkie ( fartartist ) is that 2nd hand smoke is fine, you can breathe it all day long and you'll not feel a thing. Sure. Tell that to all the non-smoking folks in catering/services that are dying from lung cancer. Tell it to the increasing number of Governments that are now making it a crime to inflict stinking secondhand smoke on non-smokers. And tell it to all the innocent chidren addicted to the toxic poison by irresponsible people like Mr Mark Davis who blow their lung rot disease ridded crap at them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Alice Date: 01 Jul 06 - 02:19 PM Let's get rid of the electoral college. Outdated and time to go. We don't recommend it for "new democracies" like Iraq, so why do we still have it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Don Firth Date: 01 Jul 06 - 03:43 PM Amazing! The electoral college was first used by the Visigoths. Really! No kidding! The idea was that the Germanic king could be an effective leader only if he had the approval of his nobles. Various permutations of this system have been used off and on throughout history. Currently, the College of Cardinals that elects the Pope is an example of an electoral college. Other than that, the United States is the only modern country that uses an electoral college in choosing its leaders. Visigoths! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Tootler Date: 01 Jul 06 - 04:38 PM The British Labour Party use an electoral college to elect their leader. Then at the next general election, providing; The leader wins the seat he stands in and The Party win more seats than anyone else in Parliament That leader becomes the British Prime Minister. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 01 Jul 06 - 05:59 PM providing...The Party win more seats than anyone else in Parliament Pedantic drift: Strictly speaking that's not true. It's quite possible in a hung Parliament, where there are more than two parties, for the party that wins more seats than any other party to be in a minority in Parliament, and unable to form an administration. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: John MacKenzie Date: 01 Jul 06 - 06:07 PM All political parties favour any system that works in their favour G. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 01 Jul 06 - 08:17 PM McGrath, we too in Australia have a preferential system, rather than a first past the post, but Little Fascist Johnny is thinking about it. There are actually some advantages in a system where you can put up shell candidates, and get their preferences to flow to you, after the voter has thought he has 'protest voted' against you. The problem is, could the americans ever cope with such a system? Well, it's not that hard really, you don't NEED a thinking populace, that's what 'the donkey vote' is for - just start at the top and number down... one of the reason for the Aussie obsession with gambling, as the order of the candidates is determined by a random draw... Funnily enough, in Queensland State Elections, you have the option of a 'just put a 1 in any box' vote - this is effectively a first past the post system, as the preferences 'exhaust', and interestingly enough, about 2/3 of the vote is now cast in this way... |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Tootler Date: 02 Jul 06 - 12:19 PM You are of course pedantically correct McG of Harlow, but the first past the post system and the distribution of votes for the two major parties makes it very difficult for third parties to gain many seats. As a result I can only remember this happening once in my lifetime. The point is that Tony Blair at one remove became prime minister following an election by an electoral college. Admittedly not in national elections. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Susu's Hubby Date: 02 Jul 06 - 12:58 PM sorefingers, Why don't you be a little intellectually honest here and rephrase your claims? "Meanwhile in an Airport somewhere in the south, Rush Bumraw was being arrested AGAIN for having illegal drugs, ie narcotics." Last time I checked...Viagra was not a narcotic. You can't blame a brother for wanting to have a little fun now can you? There were no "narcotics". "Latest looneymonkie is Mark Davis ( originaly only heard in Texas but now syndicated ...ie you can hear this nut nationwide ). His claim to a seat near the chief butt-monkie ( fartartist ) is that 2nd hand smoke is fine, you can breathe it all day long and you'll not feel a thing." Mark Davis never said that 2nd hand smoke is fine. All he said is that there is no way that 2nd hand smoke can have the same effect to a non smoker that sucking smoke directly from a cigarette into your own lungs can have. He was responding to the report from the surgeon general that said that breathing 2nd hand smoke was the "same as smoking". Just ask any smoker that is trying to stop if just standing in a room full of cigarette smoke does anything to stop their craving. I can guarantee you that almost 100% of the time the answer will be an unequivocal "no". Just plain common sense will tell you that even though there is a risk from 2nd hand smoke that the real danger still lies with drawing that chemically laced drag directly into your lungs. But maybe that's why you don't understand what he was saying. It seems that common sense just flies way too far over your head. Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST,sorefingers Date: 02 Jul 06 - 01:23 PM Susu's hubby, you are a freeper troll and you are a liar! Yes Lush Bumfart was arrested, and yes Mark Davis is broacasting lies. So go troll someplace else! |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST,COP Date: 02 Jul 06 - 01:28 PM Under Florida law certain drugs, including Pfizer's erectile dysfunction remedy Viagra, must bear the name of the person carrying them. Violation is a second-degree misdemeanor punishable by a $500 fine and 60 days in jail. Mr Limbaugh is also a narcotics 'second offender' so his case may be upgraded to Felony. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: pdq Date: 02 Jul 06 - 01:55 PM According to the Drug Enforcement Administration, Viagra is not considered a 'controlled substance' because "it's not something you can be addicted to," said DEA Investigator Maria Gilbert. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Don Firth Date: 02 Jul 06 - 02:56 PM Poor Rush. He seems to be having a hard time. . . . And all he wanted was just to be straight with everybody. . . . Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Bill D Date: 02 Jul 06 - 03:04 PM so...if he is convicted of something, he will now be a "hardened criminal"? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Don Firth Date: 02 Jul 06 - 04:09 PM In my "Suspect Email" folder, I just now got another one of those spams advertising cheap pharmaceuticals. One of the items listed was "Viagra Soft Tabs." Uh . . . what? Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Susu's Hubby Date: 02 Jul 06 - 06:56 PM "Yes Lush Bumfart was arrested, and yes Mark Davis is broacasting lies." The only lies told here was the setup in the original post. sorefingers...go post you crap elsewhere. Did you guys hear what Limbaugh said regarding the Viagra? How did Bob Dole's luggage get onto my plane? I thought it was pretty funny. Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Don Firth Date: 02 Jul 06 - 07:41 PM It was pretty funny, actually. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST,sorefingers Date: 02 Jul 06 - 08:01 PM The But-Monkie campaign, funded by the Swift Boad Liars, is now up and running. However due to the deficit of education among Conslobs they routinely misspell the words and it comes out as, Butt Monkie which looks great ON the WH.... haw haw haw haw haw eeeeeek |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST,sorefingers Date: 04 Jul 06 - 11:33 AM Today I hear that Anne Coulter - Luny Right media whore - suggests in her vomitbook that somebody ought to put rat-poison in Judge Stevens ( Supreme Court USA )food, because she and her lunatic neo-nazi friends do not like his opinions.. and THEY claim the Constitution of The United States Of America JUSTIFIES them in what the say and do! |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST Date: 04 Jul 06 - 09:08 PM Tom DeLay Tom DeLay Tom DeLay |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Susu's Hubby Date: 05 Jul 06 - 08:31 AM "Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST,COP - PM Date: 02 Jul 06 - 01:28 PM Under Florida law certain drugs, including Pfizer's erectile dysfunction remedy Viagra, must bear the name of the person carrying them. Violation is a second-degree misdemeanor punishable by a $500 fine and 60 days in jail. Mr Limbaugh is also a narcotics 'second offender' so his case may be upgraded to Felony." Except in cases where the right to privacy may be compromised. If the prescription is in his Doctor's name as to protect the privacy of a "celebrity". That is allowed under FLA law. Now the only question is if the name on the bottle is that of his doctor or not. Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST Date: 05 Jul 06 - 09:04 AM This was inexplicably "over looked" by the MSM: Introducing Sen. Charles Schumer at commencement exercises at New York City's Queens College, Democrat Alan Hevesi began: "The man who, how do I phrase this diplomatically, who will put a bullet between the president's eyes if he could get away with it. The toughest senator, the best representative. A great, great member of the Congress of the United States." |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST Date: 07 Jul 06 - 03:10 AM Patrick Kennedy -- one of the few impaired drivers in the U.S. who apparently never has to worry about failing a field sobriety test, since Capitol Police refused to administer one to him. Fresh from rehab, the junior Kennedy suggests he now feels good -- presumably without the use of controlled substances. But Capitol criminal activity does not begin and end with Kennedy. There's also the case of Rep. Cynthia McKinney, who slugged a police officer but was not indicted. What makes this injustice all the more appalling is that McKinney blamed the incident on racial profiling. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Susu's Hubby Date: 07 Jul 06 - 09:53 PM Watch out Guest, Post anymore stuff like that and you'll be labeled as a "troll". Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Greg F. Date: 08 Jul 06 - 08:57 AM Talkin' to yourself again, Bubby? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST,Frank Hamilton Date: 08 Jul 06 - 01:20 PM I have no doubt that it was racially inspired. Cynthia is a courageous lady. She is supported by many African-American folks here in Georgia. She sticks up for them and for all of us who agree with her. If y'all don't want to hear the Reich Wing, don't support them. Go to alternative news sources to get your information. Stop subscribing to the newspapers that publish spin and garbage. Turn off Fox News and all the other TV copycats. Start asking real questions rather than go along with the latest fear-mongering propaganda. Frank Hamilton |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Susu's Hubby Date: 08 Jul 06 - 04:23 PM Greg F., How nice of you to join us! We've missed you! Now, you may go back to your coloring books and crayons. Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST,Woody Date: 08 Jul 06 - 05:08 PM Jan 8, 2006 CARACAS, Venezuela - The American singer and activist Harry Belafonte: "No matter what the greatest tyrant in the world, the greatest terrorist in the world, George W. Bush says, we're here to tell you: Not hundreds, not thousands, but millions of the American people ... support your revolution," Belafonte told Chavez... |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Big Mick Date: 08 Jul 06 - 05:25 PM Susu's Hubby said: sorefingers, Why don't you be a little intellectually honest here and rephrase your claims? "Meanwhile in an Airport somewhere in the south, Rush Bumraw was being arrested AGAIN for having illegal drugs, ie narcotics." Last time I checked...Viagra was not a narcotic. You can't blame a brother for wanting to have a little fun now can you? Another example of conservative double standard. I wish you had applied that same unshakeable sense of right and wrong (he says with tongue planted firmly in cheek) to Bill Clinton. It seems when someone like Limbaugh gets caught doing illegal things, or Bill Bennett gets caught being the hypocrite that he is, you are all too ready to alibi it. But when it comes to someone who doesn't come from your end of the political gene pool, it is a crime and worthy of no forgiveness. Mick |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Susu's Hubby Date: 08 Jul 06 - 05:54 PM Mick, What do I need to alibi? He was cleared of any wrong doing in this latest deal. The prescription was in his doctors name. Perfectly legal in the state of Fla. Why is it when something happens to a conservative and it's all over the news media, you and your crew just take it for face value instead of finding out the facts? We had the facts about Clinton. He lied. Proven. I quote you: "But when it comes to someone who doesn't come from your end of the political gene pool, it is a crime and worthy of no forgiveness." I guess it just matters on what the meaning of "is" is. Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Amos Date: 08 Jul 06 - 06:42 PM Limbaugh is quite deserving of scorn because of his abuses of communication and his falsification of facts in public media. Even if he wasn't a pill-head. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST,Woody Date: 08 Jul 06 - 07:22 PM Cindy Sheehan: And about Bill Clinton . . . . You know, I really think he should have been impeached, but not for a blow job. His policies are responsible for killing more Iraqis that George Bush. I don't understand why to rise to the level of being president of my country one has to be a monster. I used to say that George Bush was defiling the Oval Office, but it's been held by a long line of monsters. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Amos Date: 08 Jul 06 - 07:44 PM His policies are responsible for killing more Iraqis that George Bush. Woody: What policies are you referring to specifically? A |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST Date: 08 Jul 06 - 08:34 PM Limbaugh is 98.5% accurate - sad as that is. And was NOT arrested! It is all about the money - why do you think Air America is on - to inform America? Bullshit, it is all about the $$$$$$$$. And if you want to hear lies, listen to Rhandi Rhoades or whatever her stage name is. AND, you liberals have made ignoring the truth into an artform. In addition to ignoring the outlandish, almost anti American comments uttered by your political 'heros'. As a former Dem, I am very sad with regard to the antics of today's Dems. Very, very sad and they have no plan or purpose to present. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST,sorefingers Date: 08 Jul 06 - 09:41 PM Limbuagh was arrested! so you are a liar. If you were a reliable source your name would be submitted, it is not so you are a fake as well. BTW Rush the Fawning Felon did not get that tag in a Court but out here on the Internet. The public has labeled him because of what he does, and we all know that what he does, he is. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST Date: 08 Jul 06 - 09:54 PM Sorefingers; I am a liar? Although your charge means zip to me, I will give you a chance to rethink your position. "Detained for three hours" does not mean an arrest was done. Why not stipulate your source? Limbaugh can laugh at many on his way to the bank and you are a prime example of his reason for entertainment. Looney left? Naw, it is the looney left that is such a major source of the right's happiness and delight. Sorry! |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Greg F. Date: 09 Jul 06 - 10:59 AM "Guest" is just Bubby carrying on a conversation with himself. Best to just ignore it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST,Frank Hamilton Date: 09 Jul 06 - 11:34 AM Whenever I hear the phrase "you liberals" I know that intelligent conversation is over. Bill Clinton lied? So did George Bush who lied us into an occupation. Rush accurate? I have a bridge for sale for you. Frank Hamilton |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST Date: 09 Jul 06 - 11:58 AM Clinton, Bush? How did they get into this thread? Rush is graded -you know that. And I am not "Bubby", I am Troll! |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST,sorefingers Date: 09 Jul 06 - 01:36 PM "Subject: RE: BS: The Dangerous Right, KKK - Skinheads etc From: GUEST Date: 08 Jul 06 - 10:58 PM KKK is not on the Right. And why not start a thread that is entertaining and informative?" This thread is very informative. You are a troll, that too is information. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Ron Davies Date: 09 Jul 06 - 02:18 PM Well, this seems to be a pretty open topic. How about it, Hubby--should the 11 million illegals be rounded up, returned to their country of origin and only then allowed to start the process to become US citizens? Yes or no? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST Date: 09 Jul 06 - 04:09 PM That I am a Troll is not information as you describe - I already admitted to it earlier. No to Ron D.'s ?. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST Date: 09 Jul 06 - 08:51 PM Sorefingers: Me thinks that thee perhaps suffers from more than sore fingers. Sore logic? Limbaugh did not have narcotics in his possession. He had Viagra! Wow! Time to hang him! Viagra! Not a controlled substance. Looney Lefties don't acknowledge that they are looney because they are too looney to realize they are loonie! DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Bobert Date: 09 Jul 06 - 09:47 PM Can always depend on Dougie to really set things right... Okay, that explains the "loonie lefties"... Ya' got one fir the "loonie righties"??? They seem to be more the problem these days seein' as they have the power to bankrupt the government and start wars any time they want??? Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST Date: 09 Jul 06 - 09:53 PM bobert, the deficit is reducing itself due to the increase in taxes being received by the Government which is directly attributable to the Bush economic plan. Now, reject that!!!!!!!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Alba Date: 09 Jul 06 - 09:57 PM Jaysus, A supporter of a President that can't string a sentence together comes along and corrects a comment that Limbaugh didn't have illegal Narcs this time but illegal Viagra instead! lol |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Amos Date: 09 Jul 06 - 10:01 PM >>The Bush-Cheney team has racked up another $3 trillion in debt in >>just 6 years. The US national debt now stands at $8.4 trillion >>dollars while the trade deficit has ballooned to $800 billion >>nearly 7% of GDP. >> >>This is lunacy. No country, however powerful, can maintain these >>staggering numbers. The country is in hock up to its neck and has >>to borrow $2.5 billion per day just to stay above water. Presently, >>the Fed is expanding the money supply and buying back its own >>treasuries to hide the hemorrhaging from the public. Its utter >>madness. >> >>Last month the trade deficit climbed to $70 billion. More >>importantly, foreign central banks only purchased a meager $47 >>billion in treasuries to shore up our ravenous appetite for cheap >>junk from China. From an article entitled "Is Cheny Betting on Economic Collapse?", By Mike Whitney |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST Date: 09 Jul 06 - 10:06 PM Look at the bright side, who in their right mind would foreclose on the US? Holding on to Bonds with no apparent value is somewhat more reassuring than being told the Bonds have no value when redemption is called for. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Alba Date: 09 Jul 06 - 10:08 PM Yeah Bobert get a grip the National deficit is now only $8,415,216,882,916.21! I'd pay it off myself with my Capital One No hassle Card but I need that for some of Life's little luxuries. So would ya pay off the National falling Debt with yir Visa Bobert and just think of all those "real" Air miles you would get in exchange that would be gettin you and P Vine away to the Getaway!.... A small price to pay huh:) |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Peace Date: 09 Jul 06 - 10:15 PM According to U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK The Outstanding Public Debt as of 10 Jul 2006 at 02:12:05 AM GMT is: $8,415,412,822,159,97 The estimated population of the United States is 299,071,866 so each citizen's share of this debt is $28,138.43. The National Debt has continued to increase an average of $1.71 billion per day since September 30, 2005! Concerned? Then tell Congress and the White House! |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Susu's Hubby Date: 09 Jul 06 - 10:40 PM Greg, You're still as clueless as you ever have been. I am not the aforementioned "Guest". But I will answer Ron's question. This isn't just a yes or no question. 1. Yes, they entered the country illegaly. 2. They broke the laws of the USA. 3. They should be punished for breaking our law. But this leaves some things unanswered. Let's just leave out the economical impact this will have on the economy of the southwest and California for now. Let's deal with the individual aspect for a moment. Some of these IA's have been in the country undetected for years. Some have even been under the radar long enough to start families and have children that are born on our soil. Their children are US citizens. Would it make sense to send back one or both of their parents? No. Especially if their only means of support was from an illegal parent. So, I propose this. Those with unbreakable but verifiable ties to this country (such as children born on our soil WHILE THEY WERE ALREADY HERE) be given the opportunity to start the trek to citizenship as long as they have broken no other laws other than illegaly crossing the border. I would be fine with their punishment for breaking that law be a fine ($1000-2000) with half of the monies collected to go into a special fund to help collectively pay any fees associated with all others in the same situation that are on the trek to citizenship. The other half of the fine would go to put a dent in the back taxes that may be owed from them not having ever paid any type of payroll taxes. I'd even be ok with letting them pay it out if need be. (See....I'm compassionate.) But the rest...round 'em up and send them back. I don't care if it does cause lettuce to go to $7/head. I don't eat it that much anyhow. Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Ron Davies Date: 09 Jul 06 - 10:47 PM OK Hubby-- How do you propose to "round up" those who do not fit your narrow set of criteria for "Hubby's amnesty"? You are of course aware that there will be quite a few. And it's interesting that the rampant inflation caused by your plan would not faze you. You still claim to be a conservative? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Peace Date: 09 Jul 06 - 10:53 PM You may disagree with Greg F. However, he is a well-read, intelligent and astute individual. FYI. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: pdq Date: 09 Jul 06 - 10:58 PM Greg F crawls out of his rathole to piss on people. Then runs back in his hole. Greg F is the lowest form of life in Mudcat history. Just plain worthless. Period. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Susu's Hubby Date: 09 Jul 06 - 11:04 PM Sure I'm conservative. But that doesn't mean throwing out my "consequences for actions" belief either. The market will recover. It is very resilient. Just look at how it's rebounded from 9/11, the war, and the current spike in oil. Granting blanket amnesty is not the answer. It rewards those who have shown having no respect for the laws of the US. Now you wouldn't want to tell illegals that it's ok to break our laws now would you, Ron? Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Ron Davies Date: 09 Jul 06 - 11:09 PM Hubby-----you were also going to tell us exactly how you plan to "round up" the illegals. Somehow that part of your seminar is missing. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Peace Date: 09 Jul 06 - 11:12 PM Calling a sheep a dog will not make it bark. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST Date: 09 Jul 06 - 11:18 PM "our ravenous appetite for cheap junk from China" So Bush and Cheney give us that appetite? Should big brother tell us we can't buy that stuff from China? "The evil Bush Cheney regime illegaly takes away our freedom of choice." |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Bobert Date: 09 Jul 06 - 11:27 PM Hey, Hub.... During the "Roarin' 90's" when things never seemed so good, I don't recall you complainin' about the incresed productivity.... Hmmmmmmmm? But, now that these folsk have been an intergal part of a couple decades of economic growth, yer ready to boot 'um out??? Were yer ancestors slave owners, too??? Jus' wonderin'... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST,Chang Date: 09 Jul 06 - 11:32 PM U.S. economic growth on solid track, risks exist www.chinaview.cn 2006-07-10 10:59:47 WASHINGTON, July 9 (Xinhua) -- The U.S. economy posted strong growth in the first half of 2006 with good prospects forecast for the next half despite the soaring oil prices. The economy grew at an average rate of 5.6 percent in the first quarter of this year, higher than the estimated 5.3 percent, according to a report of the Commerce Department. It is the fastest growth pace for the U.S. economy in the past 30 months. The report showed that the U.S. personal consumption expenditure, which accounts for about two-thirds of the country's gross domestic product (GDP) and is the major engine of the economic growth, increased 5.1 percent, compared with 0.9 percent in the final quarter of 2005. The stronger U.S. GDP figure for the first quarter is also whittling away the negative effect of the country's trade deficit. Analysts said there are two main reasons behind the strong U.S. economic growth in the first six months of the year. First, the jobless rate has declined to 4.6 percent in recent months, the lowest in the past five years. Rising employment and wage hikes for U.S. workers as well as investment in red-hot real estate all gave impetus to the consumer expenditure. The U.S. economy also has benefited from the adjustment of its energy strategy in the past decades characterized by diversification of energy resources and increased energy efficiency. Former U.S. Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan has repeatedly said that the flexibility of the market-driven U.S. economy has allowed the country to weather reasonably well the steep rise in spot and futures prices for oil and natural gas that it has experienced over the past two years and more. However, risks exist alongside opportunities for the U.S. economy both in the near term and the long term. One of the risks is the soaring world oil price which hit a record high of more than 75 U.S. dollars a barrel recently, a dragon the economic growth. The increase in short-term interest rates will also slow the pace of the U.S. economy. The Federal Reserve has raised the federal funds rate -- the interest rate charged each other by banks on overnight loans -- by more than 4 percent in the past two years to 5.25 percent, the highest level in five years. There is no doubt higher interest rates will do some harm to the consumer expenditure and business investment. Meanwhile, the huge trade deficit and federal deficit as well as the lowest savings rate in decades are also hindering growth. The White House predicted last month that the U.S. GDP will grow by 3.6 percent, as measured from the fourth quarter of last year to the fourth quarter of this year. That is better than a 3.4 percent growth rate forecast earlier this year. But it also predicted that the U.S. jobless rate will drop to 4.7 percent in 2006, revising down its previous forecast of 5 percent. The White House continued to project good economic growth for 2007 and 2008, at 3.3 percent and 3.2 percent respectively, which is expected to contribute to the stability of the global economy. Enditem (by Wang Zhenhua ) |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Peace Date: 09 Jul 06 - 11:34 PM Meanwhile, . . . U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK The Outstanding Public Debt as of 10 Jul 2006 at 03:33:24 AM GMT is: $8,415,509,308,507.37 The estimated population of the United States is 299,072,230 so each citizen's share of this debt is $28,138.72. The National Debt has continued to increase an average of $1.71 billion per day since September 30, 2005! Concerned? Then tell Congress and the White House! |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST Date: 10 Jul 06 - 01:09 AM http://www.nytimes.com/glogin?URI=http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/09/washington/09econ.html&OQ=_rQ3D1Q26hpQ26exQ3D1152417600Q26enQ3D59c195577b27a9bdQ26eiQ3D5094Q26partnerQ3Dhomepage&OP=3e551af4Q2FyQ22-5yI@)k2@@Ngyg((4y(Ay(Q3DyQ22Q3CkQ27aE_N@Ey(Q3D-)@E8Q27NlC Surprising Jump in Tax Revenues Is Curbing Deficit By EDMUND L. ANDREWS Published: July 9, 2006 Tax revenues are climbing twice as fast as the administration predicted in February, so fast that the budget deficit could actually decline this year. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Peace Date: 10 Jul 06 - 01:12 AM Whew. That's a relief. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: CarolC Date: 10 Jul 06 - 01:24 AM Man, I hope your employers in the Bush administration are paying you overtime for keeping that little finger of yours in the dike for them, Guest 10 Jul 06 - 01:09 AM. Though I doubt it will do them much good. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: CarolC Date: 10 Jul 06 - 01:38 AM From the Little Dutch Boy's link... "Democrats and many independent budget analysts note that overall revenues have barely climbed back to the levels reached in 2000, and that the government has borrowed trillions of dollars against Social Security surpluses just as the first of the nation's baby boomers are nearing retirement. "The fact is that revenues are way below what the administration said they would be a few years ago," said Thomas S. Kahn, staff director for Democrats on the House Budget Committee. "The long-term prognosis is still very, very bleak, and the administration doesn't have any kind of long-term plan." One reason the run-up in taxes looks good is because the past five years looked so bad. Revenues are up, but they have lagged well behind economic growth. The surge could also evaporate as quickly as it appeared. Over the past decade, tax revenues have become much more volatile, alternately soaring and plunging in the wake of swings in the stock market and repeatedly defying government projections." And it is important to remember that the deficit is not the same thing as the national debt, which has increased 54% since Bush took office (the debt has risen as much under Bush as it did under all previous presidents put together). Fiscal conservative my ass. From the article... "And federal debt has ballooned to $8.3 trillion, up from $5.6 trillion when Mr. Bush took office. Republicans are trying to raise the authorized debt ceiling to $9.6 trillion." |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST Date: 10 Jul 06 - 07:43 AM Ah, yes, we can find articles to support our views, if if they may be biased. Who in the name of all things good and proper is the "Little Dutch Boy"? I thought Ted Kennedy was Irish. Which reminds me, Ted has been maintaining a low profile as of late. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST,aka 'Stuttering Troll' Date: 10 Jul 06 - 07:47 AM 1st "If" = Even |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Greg F. Date: 10 Jul 06 - 09:46 AM Dear me, Pee Dee, I'm devastated entirely by your omniscient grasp of fact, devastating logic and witty reparteé. Ditto Bubby, of course. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: pdq Date: 10 Jul 06 - 09:48 AM Greg F: U |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: CarolC Date: 10 Jul 06 - 01:04 PM Ah, yes, we can find articles to support our views, if if they may be biased. That wasn't my article. It was the article posted by Guest,10 Jul 06 - 01:09 AM, who appears to have been contradicted by his/her own supporting documentation. Was that Guest you by any chance, Guest,10 Jul 06 - 07:43 AM? If it was, you might want to consider reading the articles you post before posting them. The Little Dutch Boy kept his finger in the dike all night long, trying to keep the ocean from taking back the land (it is a story that takes place in The Netherlands). In his case he was successful. In the case of the anonymous people who are furiously posting propaganda here in the Mudcat, trying to keep back the ocean of displeasure with the US government that threatens to take back our democracy, well, there is still much left of the night. Time will tell on that one. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Susu's Hubby Date: 10 Jul 06 - 02:17 PM CarolC, An ocean it ain't. Maybe a stream from the waterhose that was left running all night. But no ocean. Ron, How do we gather up the rest? Just keep on doing what we're doing. Raiding the establishments that provide employment to the lawbreakers. There were a few stories in the news recently here in Texas about raids around the state that netted many IA's. That should make all you guys happy. Catching people that break the law and punish the people that pay them below the minimum wage. Isn't that good for liberal and conservative alike? Yes, I know that it puts a dent in the "proposed liberal voting block offered by your lady candidate out in California (who was beaten at the polls by Bilbray). But you'll just have to stand by your convictions rather than trying to "stack the deck". Sometimes you gotta just stand up and do what's right. This is right. Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: CarolC Date: 10 Jul 06 - 03:11 PM An ocean it ain't. Maybe a stream from the waterhose that was left running all night. But no ocean. We shall see. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Greg F. Date: 10 Jul 06 - 03:57 PM OUCH! A further example of PeeDee's devastating wit. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Susu's Hubby Date: 10 Jul 06 - 10:04 PM Here you go. The states are right in taking this problem on themselves. Stop waiting or expecting the feds to do everything. The way it should be! Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Ron Davies Date: 10 Jul 06 - 11:59 PM Hubby- "This is right"? This isn't even sensibly Right. Re: Bilbray: You really ought to get your news from other sources than Limbaugh. The Republicans had to spend far more than the Democrats did --just to keep--temporarily--the seat in a heavily Republican district. Source: Wall St Journal. So we'll corral all the illegal immigrants by raiding the establishments that provide employment to them. There are approximately 11 million illegals. Dream on. It's also a wonderful way to plant yourself firmly on the wrong side of both business and the fastest growing ethnic group in the US--Hispanics. Congratulations. You can write the sequel to Kevin Phillips' book. Only yours will be called "The Emerging Republican Minority". And please don't use any of my taxes for the quintessentially stupid idea of banishing huge numbers of people--for the crime of working in the US. You obviously don't mind sending inflation through the roof by your wonderful plan--you've stated as much. But you also don't seem to mind plunging the budget considerably more into deficit--which is what it would take--expanding the Customs Service by, say, a hundredfold. Or do you plan to do it a la Gestapo--e.g. informants? Offhand I'd say you qualify with flying colors as a member of the Looney Right--or at least a truly pathetic excuse for a conservative. Again, congratulations. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST Date: 11 Jul 06 - 09:41 AM Attention Ron Davies; Can't you post without making a personal attack? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Susu's Hubby Date: 11 Jul 06 - 10:13 AM Re: Bilbray: You really ought to get your news from other sources than Limbaugh. The Republicans had to spend far more than the Democrats did --just to keep--temporarily--the seat in a heavily Republican district. Source: Wall St Journal. Ron, She was in the lead until she opened her fat mouth and let slip out her party's preference of letting IA's help and vote in her election. It doesn't matter who spent what. What matters are the ideas that were thrown out. Evidently, that idea was not the most popular. Time to search for another excuse. Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Amos Date: 11 Jul 06 - 10:25 AM Hub: If you had paid attention to what she was doing and saying when she "let slip", you would have realized that she mis-spoke, and not -- as her opponents immediately, loudly and aggressively misconstrued it -- that she wanted IA's to vote. But that sort of understanding is beyond the militant hostility of the obsessively antagonistic elements found in some parts of the world. Doing what is right does not always entail attacking with intent to harm others in the world, you know, or make them shut up, or belittle or distort their views. There are other ways to do what is right. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST Date: 11 Jul 06 - 10:39 AM Amos, remember the saying "loose lips sink ships?" (WW2) Why now do we simply dismiss something with "mis-spoke"? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Susu's Hubby Date: 11 Jul 06 - 10:42 AM Amos, It's always going to be something. "They mis-spoke." "That's a conservative source" or as in the case of a few here...(Ron and Greg) "You're an idiot" (as if that would discredit the argument) "You're pathetic" The point is that when she received the question from an hispanic individual who clearly stated that he had "no papers", she said that that little detail shouldn't stand in the way of them at least HELPING her in her campaign. She, in effect, was actively recruiting admitted law-breakers into supporting her campaign. She "at least" was trying to sway the hispanic vote by saying I don't care if you're an IA. Me getting into office is what's important here. She should have immediately called the police over to this individual and had him at least checked for ID. She was running for the office of LAW-MAKER. She should have SOME respect for the laws that are already set in stone. But I guess that wouldn't have been the most popular thing to do at that point seeing that she was talking to an all hispanic group at the time. Huh? Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST Date: 11 Jul 06 - 10:59 AM Amos, one more thing on the dismissve approach with the "mis-spoke". Actually it is 'misspoke' which is the past tense of misspeak, defined as "speaking inaccurately" in your basic dictionary. Don't we have a tendency, fair or not, to go after inaccuracies? Wrong is wrong, isn't it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Amos Date: 11 Jul 06 - 01:32 PM Actually, no; wrong is a computation imposed as a result of filters on the world by people who are deeply struggling to find out how to be right. There is no reason on earth, in the context of the dialogue, why she should have done any such thing. Law-makers and law-enforcement officers and campaigning politicians are three different hats. Why be anal about a political issue? And perhaps she was actually saying "Your lack of papers does not change the basic fact of your humanity, your dignity as a human being, or your right to a voice." That of course is a position you might find unacceptable. Fortunately for you, your illegal-immigrant ancestors were not up against this sort of anal obsession, or they would still be eking out a living in Latvia or wherever they came to America from in order to help build the great melting pot. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST Date: 11 Jul 06 - 02:34 PM .......or perhaps she was saying - well, just make something up. Was she not campaigning to be a lawmaker? That eliminates one of the 3 hats. And since law enforcement follows those laws, doe that not eliminate a second hat, leaving just one? I am unaware how you could know about my background but I take your comment as simple rehtoric while attempting to make excuses for improper conduct. To no avail, I might add. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST Date: 11 Jul 06 - 06:04 PM 'I now know he's sincere about wanting freedom for the Iraqis,' Cindy said after their meeting. 'I know he's sorry and feels some pain for our loss. And I know he's a man of faith.'" Meanwhile back at the ranch: "That lying bastard, George Bush, is taking a five-week vacation in time of war... You get that maniac out here to talk with me in person. Bush needs to tell me why my son died in Iraq. I've got the whole month of August off, and so does he." |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST Date: 11 Jul 06 - 10:32 PM Poor, poor Cindy - Pimps treat their Ho's with more respect than she is getting from her handlers. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Ron Davies Date: 11 Jul 06 - 10:37 PM Gee, I wonder how you know that--personal experience, no doubt. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Ron Davies Date: 11 Jul 06 - 10:59 PM "Guest"-- Forgot your own name, Doug? But perhaps you're not Doug--you're both (usually) more articulate-- and more crass-- than he is. But I will not waste any more time trying to guess the courageous individual behind "Guest"--or shadowboxing it. Get a name--or a handle. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Ron Davies Date: 11 Jul 06 - 11:16 PM Hubby-- Re: Bilbray: point is: it was a Republican district in 2006 to start with--therefore theirs to lose. And they almost managed to lose it. But for the Democrat's playing into the hands of "no amnesty" shriekers--like your good self?--Bilbray could easily have lost. I repeat: try reading something other than the Washington Times--and stop listening to Rush's drivel. I heard him on just this topic last weekend--and somehow he managed to leave out the facts that the Republicans spent far more on the race--and that it was a Republican district to start with. But the Wall St Journal did not leave these factors out. You've got to start broadening your reading a bit. I make no excuses for her--her statement was stupid. She should have known an opponent will seize on something like that--and blow it up to colossal proportions. She should have been more careful. But, even so the Republicans had to pull out all the stops. That's the point. Now, regarding your "conservative" credentials. You evidently don't mind pushing inflation through the roof, dramatically worsening the deficit, and employing Gestapo tactics--since all those will be results of your plan to round up the many (majority) of illegal immigrants who don't qualify for "hubby's amnesty". Would you mind telling us why these aspects of your plan are good conservative attributes? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Greg F. Date: 12 Jul 06 - 08:36 AM Well, if it walks like a pathetic idiot, thinks (or fails to think) like a pathetic idiot, holds unsubstantiated opinions like a pathetic idiot, talks (or quacks) like a pathetic idiot ....etc. ...draw your own conclusions. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Ron Davies Date: 12 Jul 06 - 09:35 PM Hubby-- Still waiting for you to tell us why sending inflation through the roof, dramatically worsening the deficit, and using Gestapo tactics--all results of your wonderful plan to deal with illegal immigrants--are all good solid conservative ideas. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST,sorefingers Date: 12 Jul 06 - 10:15 PM Looney Right new moves on 2nd hand smoke. As well as saying 2nd hand smoke is good for us, the Looney Right also say that business owners should decide whether smoking is or is not allowed on their premisses, and there shouldn't be any laws or regulations restricting the practice. However, they do not say anything about the health of workers in such businesses, presumably because workers health will be taken care of by the private sector after the unfortunates have contracted cancer. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Susu's Hubby Date: 12 Jul 06 - 10:43 PM Leave the business owners alone. If they want to have an establishment that allows smoking, it's perfectly within their right. If you want to visit that establishment because you can smoke there then that's perfectly within your right or it you DON'T want to visit it because they allow smoking there then go find an establishment that suits your tastes. Same thing with working there. The paper is full of want ads for jobs. Look through it and find another one. It's sort of the same as getting your mommy and daddy to go and gripe at the cool kids because they won't let you hang out with them. Grow up and let business owners do what they think is right for them and stop telling them who they can and can't serve or even how to serve them. Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Amos Date: 12 Jul 06 - 10:48 PM Hub: While I agree that the Federal government should stay the hell out of the issue of who may or may not allow smoking in a business environment or restaurant, I think we should be both open to any genuine scientific evidence that doing so is actually a license to harm non-consenting others. At that point it becomes a matter for regulation. Smoking is a foolish thing to do, but it is not the business of the government to save us from ourselves. Nor from choosing the wrong spouse, I might add. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST Date: 13 Jul 06 - 02:05 AM We don't need no steenking health department do we? No FDA or USDA? Shut'em down and save a bundle. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Leadfingers Date: 13 Jul 06 - 07:37 AM 100 |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Ron Davies Date: 14 Jul 06 - 07:15 AM Hubby-- Stll waiting for you to tell us why your plan to deal with illegal immigrants--with its deleterious affects on the inflation and deficit situations, and its employment of Gestapo tactics, is just a peachy conservative idea. It will send inflation up. It will worsen the deficit dramatically. It envisions a domestic informants' network--for the purpose of preventing willing workers from working. Just magnificent conservative ideas. Or maybe not. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Ron Davies Date: 15 Jul 06 - 10:01 AM This is such a wonderful title for a thread. It deserves more time. And, by the way, Hubby, how are you coming on your book "The Emerging Republican MInority"? It sure would be nice if Republicans stood for something besides xenophobia and racism, trashing the environment (a far cry from Teddy Roosevelt), a slap on the wrist for monopolies (again see TR for contrast), trying to prevent a rise in the minimum wage, and of course the recent favorite, stupid pre-emptive war--(I mean Iraq, not Afghanistan--Afghanistan was justified in my opinion--Iraq was emphatically not.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Ron Davies Date: 15 Jul 06 - 10:01 AM That's "Minority" |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST,Tom Fenner Date: 16 Jul 06 - 01:09 AM History begins the day you are born.That being the case, most of you must be much younger than I am. In basic training, in 1962, a Texas boy walked up to me and asked, "You the guy from Ohio?" I said "Yes". Then he asked, "You belong to that Nigger Party?" I didn't know what he was talking about, and told him no one had invited me to any party. He gave me a discusted look, and said,"Dumb ass! Are you a Rebublican?" I answered, "I wasn't, but I guess I am now!" You see, In those days,in many parts of the south, a Klan membership came with registering as a Democrat. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Ron Davies Date: 16 Jul 06 - 11:20 AM You're right (though I suspect KKK membership was not required everywhere to be a Democrat--LBJ for instance was not one). But in those days the Solid South was Democrat--and not for civil rights. Since then, however, things have changed. There are reasonable Republicans--but they seem to be a dying breed. After the election this fall there probably will be even fewer--thanks to Bush's Iraq war. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: CarolC Date: 16 Jul 06 - 01:18 PM Just goes to show how arbitrary, superficial, and completely meaningless Party labels and affiliations really are. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: GUEST Date: 16 Jul 06 - 03:00 PM Does any one remember the Little Blue Book,"Quotations from Chairman L.B.J.?" It was a takeoff on Chairman Maos "Little Red Book." It was full ofQuotes from speeches he floor of Congress.One memorable one went something like, Ah could never, in good conscience, vote for ANY law that would raise the blackman to equality with whites. Johnson was just another power mad politician. He would say or do anything to further his career. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Ron Davies Date: 16 Jul 06 - 04:36 PM The proof of the pudding... Check the legislation. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Looney Right .... From: Amos Date: 23 Jul 06 - 12:00 AM Bush changes NASA mission statement - no longer interested in protecting our home planet by John in DC - 7/22/2006 08:38:00 PM The Republicans are amazing. After having given the shaft to blacks, women, Latinos, gays, people who have Parkinsons and Alzheimers, the budget, the environment, the military, veterans, New Orleans, Iraq and oh so many more, now they're giving the shaft to the entire planet Earth. From ThinkProgress, citing the NY Times. NASA quietly had its mission statement changed last February by the White House, who deleted the phrase "to understand and protect our home planet." NASA scientists were surprised to learn of the change. "Without it, these scientists say, there will be far less incentive to pursue projects to improve understanding of terrestrial problems like climate change caused by greenhouse gas emissions." As we quoted Charles Barkley the other day, "I used to be a Republican, before they lost their minds." http://americablog.blogspot.com/
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