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Subject: RE: BS: Latest Excuse for Invading Iraq.... From: Ebbie Date: 22 Jan 04 - 02:43 PM The Bush regime is either the most sadly misinformed government one can imagine or they knowingly and with malice aforethought, LIE. This is no great surprise except to some, possibly including DougR, who continue to believe that they have found a knight on a white horse. Incidentally, I know this is old news- but just maybe seeing it so starkly presented may cause some to rethink some issues. Eb (Culled from the Daily Mislead) Bush: (There is) "no doubt the Iraqi regime continues to possess the most lethal weapons ever devised," Cheney: "There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction...to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us." Bush: (Iraq has)"weapons of mass destruction-related program activities." Bush"What's the difference?" (When asked about the shift from asserting Iraq "possessed" WMD, to Iraq merely exploring "WMD-related-program-activities." Bush (before the war): "the regime has produced thousands of tons of chemical agents, including mustard gas, sarin nerve gas, VX nerve gas" David Kay, Bush's own chief weapons inspector: "Iraq did not have a large, ongoing, centrally controlled chemical weapons program after 1991." Bush (before the war): "Iraq has at least seven mobile factories for the production of biological agents – equipment mounted on trucks and rails to evade discovery." David Kay:"We have not yet been able to corroborate the existence of a mobile biological weapons production effort." Bush: "Iraq has a growing fleet of unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas." (U.S. Air Force Intelligence: The vehicles Bush cited "were never meant to spread toxins" Bush (before the war): "Iraq could have a nuclear weapon in less than a year." Bush, (knowing the British allegation had been dismissed by the U.S. intelligence community: Iraq "sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa," and told Americans to fear "a mushroom cloud." Cheney: "Saddam has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons." David. Kay: "We have not uncovered evidence that Iraq undertook significant post 1998 steps to actually build nuclear weapons or produce fissile material." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Latest Excuse for Invading Iraq.... From: Bill D Date: 22 Jan 04 - 01:46 PM "We inherited the policy of the Clinton administration." They 'inherited' a lot of things...didn't stop 'em from changing most of 'em... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Latest Excuse for Invading Iraq.... From: Don Firth Date: 22 Jan 04 - 01:38 PM This morning on NPR, Juan Williams interviewed Dick Cheney. You can listen to part of the interview HERE. On the audio clip, it sounds as if they're coming in after the interview has already started. They were talking about elections in Iraq, and Cheney made it pretty plain that they weren't about to allow the Iraqis to run it their own way; they were going to need supervision (which raises the question that Washington State Representative Jim McDermott raised in a speech a couple of weeks ago: "Can we accept the idea that the government the Iraqi people want may not be the government we want them to have?"). About a minute and a half into the interview, Cheney talks about knowing that the Iraqis had "programs designed to produce weapons of mass destruction." Not the weapons themselves, but programs designed to produce them. I read an article just a few days ago that said that they found a fair amount of papers and notebooks containing drawings and formulae for all kinds of stuff—BUT—Iraq lacked the industrial capacity to produce any of it, and it would take them at least six years to develop the capacity (provided the sanctions were lifted so they could buy the equipment they would need) before they could go into even limited production. (I designed a space ship once—still have the drawings and specifications—but I kinda doubt that it will ever get built.) Then he talked about finding "mobile biological weapons labs—a couple of semi-trailers that we believe were part of that program." [i.e., chemical/biological weapons] These have long since been established as mobile labs for producing gas for launching weather balloons. They were connected with military operations because they wanted the weather data for more accurately targeting artillery. But chemical/biological weapons labs? No. Then came the lulu:— Regarding plans to attack Iraq, Cheney mentioned that "even Bill Clinton" talked about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction, and as far as alleged plans to attack Iraq even before 9/11 (which also allowed him to dodge making any connection between Saddam and 9/11), "We inherited the policy of the Clinton administration." So it's official, folks! Bill Clinton started the war on Iraq! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Latest Excuse for Invading Iraq.... From: Amos Date: 22 Jan 04 - 09:56 AM I would think asking "Why does he think we have WMD?" would count as one of dozens of WMD-related program activities you betcha. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Latest Excuse for Invading Iraq.... From: Nerd Date: 22 Jan 04 - 09:52 AM Actually, the new excuse was (get this) (and I quote) (I am not making this up) "Dozens of Weapons of Mass Destruction-related program activities." I guess each pencil drawing counts as a separate Weapons of Mass Destruction-related program activity... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Latest Excuse for Invading Iraq.... From: LadyJean Date: 22 Jan 04 - 12:14 AM Every night I go on my knees and pray that Bush will be caught doing the hanky panky with ANYONE besides Mrs. Bush. Why is there never a bimbo around when you need one? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Latest Excuse for Invading Iraq.... From: Bobert Date: 21 Jan 04 - 10:10 PM Well, shoot, Mr. Chaos Sir. Bill told him to do a lot od stuff, 99.9% of which Bush refused to do. Even told Bush to be sure to keep the Mrs. happy. You seen her lately? Man, that lady needs to get laid (excuse my French). Next thing ya' know he'll be blaming her fir him attacking Iraq.... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Latest Excuse for Invading Iraq.... From: Chief Chaos Date: 21 Jan 04 - 09:54 PM I guess we should just forget the fact that lliB told him to keep an eye on nedaL niB amasO as well? What happened to that fact? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Latest Excuse for Invading Iraq.... From: Bobert Date: 21 Jan 04 - 09:25 PM What the heck is going on here, anyway? All of a sudden we got all this "White Room" stuff going on with whomver it was that was talkin' backwards????.... Like, if you all think yer backward stuff is out of my reach consider this... Iz a proud menber of the Lexdexic Society. Backwards is my middle name... Ahhhh, unless, ya' just start in the middle an' work yer way to the edges... Ahhhh, BTW, word on the street is that after the Clinton excuse is proven to be yet another Bush fabrication, he's going to blame Mickey Mouse fir making him invade Iraq. This one ougttta be purdy danged interesting... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Latest Excuse for Invading Iraq.... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 21 Jan 04 - 07:54 PM !treboB ,etuC |
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Subject: RE: BS: Latest Excuse for Invading Iraq.... From: Ebbie Date: 21 Jan 04 - 07:48 PM hahhahah Well, pooh. I never have been known to think outside the box. Good one, Bobert. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Latest Excuse for Invading Iraq.... From: Bobert Date: 21 Jan 04 - 07:04 PM Well danged! Here I go tryin' to be like, ahhhh, clever? And look what I get! All this danged grief. Hey, took me 10 minutes to spell Bill Clinton backwards, especially since the letters ain't backwards on my pudder. I asked the Wes Ginny Slide Rule for help but it just shrugged it's square shoulders as if to say, "Hey, Pal, yer on yer own...." Danged hard to get good help these days! Aww, it's jus mad 'cause it's heard about Bush's new "overtime policy" but, hey, like what is a danged slide rule gonna do with more danged money, anyway? But yeah, looks like Clinton is getting ready to be elevated into 1st place on the reasons for invadin' Iraq. Yeah, seems Bush found some notes in the desk in the Oval Office from Clinton tellin' him to attack Iraq... Hey, I ain't heared the full story but that's the word on the street... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Latest Excuse for Invading Iraq.... From: Greg F. Date: 21 Jan 04 - 06:22 PM Why didn't Bush take it back a little further and blame the whole thing on T. E. Lawrence? 1. Nobody'd told Dumbya who T.E. Lawrence was and 2. Give him time, Don, give him time.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Latest Excuse for Invading Iraq.... From: katlaughing Date: 21 Jan 04 - 05:23 PM I thought it Bobert's noitanalpxe we were waiting for...:-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Latest Escuse for Invading Iraq.... From: Ebbie Date: 21 Jan 04 - 04:17 PM Wait. Let's look at this logically: Bobert is notoriously dyslexic. Can't spell too well either... He means nostril. Maybe "(C)See my nostril?" He is a profound type. This is coded stuff. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Latest Escuse for Invading Iraq.... From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 21 Jan 04 - 04:14 PM Well, Clinton was screwing the intern, so maybe you just you reverse that... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Latest Escuse for Invading Iraq.... From: GUEST,pdc Date: 21 Jan 04 - 04:14 PM LOL! I think Bobert may be referring to the fact that the Republicans blame everything on Clinton -- no matter what happens, it is because of Clinton. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Latest Escuse for Invading Iraq.... From: Don Firth Date: 21 Jan 04 - 04:14 PM Dunno if this is what Bobert is referring to or not, but a week or so ago Bush came off with the contention that the war his daddy officiated over in Iraq never actually ended. And Clinton continuted the war, with bombings, enforcing no-fly zones, etcetera. Bush said, with his bare face hanging out and his smarmy smirk, "I was continuing Clinton's policy on Iraq." Why didn't Bush take it back a little further and blame the whole thing on T. E. Lawrence? Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Latest Escuse for Invading Iraq.... From: Bo Vandenberg Date: 21 Jan 04 - 03:58 PM Obviously deep, professional stuff. I must not understand it because I'm not in the know, connected, behind the scenes.... republican. I'm envious of those well informed Bush supporters, and thier Fox news, selfless corporate leadership, and freedom to vote without regard for issues, abilities or political record. I mean,,, a cigar! Bush must be great! s |
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Subject: RE: BS: Latest Escuse for Invading Iraq.... From: Amos Date: 21 Jan 04 - 03:48 PM "not nil C Lib" means a C library containing non-null values, obviously. THis could be really hot, depending on what programe those variables are called by and what they are calle don to do... A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Latest Escuse for Invading Iraq.... From: Ebbie Date: 21 Jan 04 - 03:14 PM Let's work on that 'llib' thing. Is he saying 'ILliberal'? or perhaps he is referring to a library- and you know what hotbeds of illiberalism they are. He is shooting two birds. Probably. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Latest Escuse for Invading Iraq.... From: greg stephens Date: 21 Jan 04 - 03:10 PM OK it's something Bush has been doing that Clinton does backwards. Or maybe something that Clinton does when looking in a mirror. or maybe looking through one of those two-way mirror things. Well, it's very intriguing. Come on bobert, give us another clue. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Latest Escuse for Invading Iraq.... From: Ebbie Date: 21 Jan 04 - 02:59 PM LOL. I'll wait for the bobert's eSplanation. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Latest Escuse for Invading Iraq.... From: Wolfgang Date: 21 Jan 04 - 02:50 PM Guess what they've found?...not (=naught) nil That's not so difficult to understand if even I can get it. Though I must admit that 'C lliB' still beats me. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: BS: Latest Escuse for Invading Iraq.... From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 21 Jan 04 - 02:30 PM What's back-to-front Bill Clinton got to do with it? Clinton appeared to use bombing sorties against Iraq as a distraction for the media, when things were getting too troublesome about Monica. Is the implication here that Bush has got some similar bit of naughtiness he's worried about? Now that would be a good news day...It seems it's easy enough to get away with lying, cheating, treason and bloodshed, but when it comes to nookie, that's serious stuff! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Latest Escuse for Invading Iraq.... From: greg stephens Date: 21 Jan 04 - 02:17 PM |
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Subject: RE: BS: Latest Escuse for Invading Iraq.... From: Bill D Date: 21 Jan 04 - 02:14 PM even after holding my monitor up to a mirror, I don't get it... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Latest Escuse for Invading Iraq.... From: greg stephens Date: 21 Jan 04 - 02:06 PM Bit too cryptic for me Bobert. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Latest Escuse for Invading Iraq.... From: Ebbie Date: 21 Jan 04 - 02:05 PM What? |
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Subject: BS: Latest Escuse for Invading Iraq.... From: Bobert Date: 21 Jan 04 - 01:31 PM Well, with all the other reasons for attacking Iraq either being exposed as lies or about to be, the Bush PR team has reached way down in their bag of tricks and guess what they've found? Give up? Well, I'll tell ya' what. notnilC lliB Bobert |
